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| Mithrandir | who's a good person to talk about extending jenkins-job-builder? I'm wondering if it'd make sense to extend it to have some sort of looping construct. | 08:02 |
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| lifeless | Mithrandir: #openstack-infra is a more relevant channel | 08:13 |
| Mithrandir | lifeless: ah, thanks. | 08:13 |
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| ondergetekende | After submitting a blueprint, is there something I should do to get it reviewed? | 13:52 |
| ondergetekende | Or is assigning the PTL als approver enough? | 13:52 |
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| davidhadas | notmyname: GM | 15:12 |
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| davidhadas | notmyname: swift proxy uses a 100-continue scheme when addressing the backend servers. This may have a benefit in the rare cases in which the backend refuses the operation (not enough space, no such object, etc) but adds overhead to all normal cases. | 15:15 |
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| davidhadas | What the rational behind this behaviour? | 15:16 |
| davidhadas | The system seem to work without the 100-continue just teh same (I did not try performance testing of the two options) | 15:17 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: around? | 15:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Deallocate network if instance is deleted in spawn https://review.openstack.org/14571 | 15:33 |
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| jeblair | We're restarting jenkins now | 15:35 |
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| notmyname | davidhadas: ya, it helps in the failover case when another server needs to be used because the currently selected one has drive issues (full or down). the overhead you're concerned with is the 100-continue ack? | 15:39 |
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| davidhadas | notmyname: the overhead is a round trip delay | 15:40 |
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| Vek | Can I get the following three patches reviewed by someone, please? They are: | 15:42 |
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| Vek | nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14250/ | 15:42 |
| Vek | glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14310/ | 15:42 |
| Vek | quantum: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14359/ | 15:42 |
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| notmyname | davidhadas: so in your cluster, the round trip between your proxies and your object servers is a significant percentage of your total PUT latency and is meaningfully reducing your throughput? | 15:42 |
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| notmyname | davidhadas: I'm not trying to be flippant, but this is an example of where swift is choosing durability over single-stream throughput. if you have a use case where this is a big negative, I'm sure we can explore options to make that part more configurable | 15:43 |
| jeblair | Jenkins is back up | 15:43 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: Was in meeting, back now. What's up? | 15:44 |
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| davidhadas | notmyname: I am doudtful if it makes sense to gain and not send the body in the very rare cases in which a disk is full by paying always an additional latency, cpu and network overheads. Just does not make sense to me :) | 15:45 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: ah, no worries... just sent the note to torandu about a summary of our final QA meeting... add to it if I forgot anything :) | 15:46 |
| davidhadas | notmyname: I was wondering if there more reasons to doing that , beyond those I see | 15:46 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK. I am not sure about the thing you put my name to. | 15:47 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: lol, sorry! | 15:49 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Can you describe what you think is not-best-practice about the tests that are there now? | 15:49 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: Other than using too many servers | 15:49 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: mostly just that they are inconsistent in a number of ways -- doc and code style, the way some create test-method-level fixtures when they should use class-level fixtures, the @attr(type='smoke') is used inconsistently, etc | 15:51 |
| dachary | doude: could you give me the URL of the bug report with your patch cleaning up the function ? | 15:52 |
| dachary | the backup function ;-) | 15:52 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK, we can deal with doc and code style, and atts, with a template. | 15:52 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: The correct fixture scope really depends on the test. | 15:52 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: I think what I said I would do was look for places where too many servers are created and that certainly includes server-creating method-level fixtures. | 15:53 |
| doude | dachary: I didn't fill a new bug because I found a simplest way to correct the bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1065053) than propsed one | 15:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1065053 in nova "Nova backup image fails" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:54 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: ah, k :) | 15:54 |
| dachary | doude: you have a pending patch ? | 15:55 |
| doude | dachary: In fact the sub method 'fetch_images' is no more usefull | 15:55 |
| dachary | doude: where can I read about that simpler patch ? | 15:56 |
| doude | dachary: I've got a patch but I cannot commit it for the moment. I expexted my company has signed the Corporate Contributor License Agreement | 15:57 |
| dachary | can you attach it + rationale to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1065053 in the meantime ? Don't worry : it's not covered by copyright, you don't risk anything legaly speaking ;-) Really small patch are not copyrighted. | 15:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1065053 in nova "Nova backup image fails" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:59 |
| dachary | doude: ^ | 15:59 |
| doude | dachary: Ok I attach it | 16:00 |
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| dachary | doude: did you figure out the history of the createBackup function and the backup_type field ? Was it attached to a blueprint in the past ? I kind of hope it will explain the intented implementation. | 16:02 |
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| doude | dachary: I push my patch on the bug | 16:08 |
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| doude | dachary: Yes I found the histry of thze backup function | 16:09 |
| doude | the first commit : https://code.launchpad.net/~jk0/nova/backup_with_rotation/+merge/65835 | 16:09 |
| doude | and an associated bp : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/backup-with-rotate | 16:09 |
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| doude | the backup_type is only a tag to distinguish to type of backup. | 16:10 |
| doude | With this tag you can managed two types of backup : 'weekly' or 'daily' | 16:11 |
| * dachary reading https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/server-cron | 16:11 | |
| doude | it's juste a tag used to filter list backup images from Glance | 16:12 |
| dachary | doude: you mean that it has never been discussed to be used to schedule backups ? | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: note: http://mumak.net/testtools/apidocs/ returning a 404... | 16:13 |
| cryptographrix | ndbcluster versus innodb versus innodb/drbd/corosync go! | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: ref'd from http://testtools.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html | 16:13 |
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| dachary | doude: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/image-backup-scheduler/ "Implement module to kick off scheduled backups" and the fact that it has been obsoleted suggests that there indeed are no blueprints. | 16:15 |
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| doude | dachary: no, it hasn't | 16:15 |
| dachary | it's unfortunate because it means advocating for a blueprint. Do you feel like writing a blueprint for the backup service using backup_type to createBackup daily/weekly or whatever ? | 16:16 |
| dachary | Or do you have something else in mind ? | 16:16 |
| cryptographrix | is there any way to specify engine type for db tables? just had a good amount of stuff break in a sandbox cluster when testing out updates to folsom | 16:17 |
| cryptographrix | and the recommendation seems to be "use drbd/corosync" even though we're already running a masterless setup with mysqlcluster | 16:18 |
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| doude | dachary: I'd like to propose that new functionality/bp | 16:22 |
| dachary | doude: ok. Let me know when you've created the blueprint and I'll be happy to proofread and contribute. | 16:23 |
| doude | I've got another question, why OpenStack calls the backuping images mechanism 'snapshot' ? | 16:23 |
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| dachary | it's not just for backups. I guess it comes from the LVM / qcow2 snapshot function. I don't really know though ;-) | 16:24 |
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| doude | dachary: Because, I think if we develop a periodic backuping mechanism we can also provide a periodic snapshoting mecanism | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/glance: Unit test replication_size. https://review.openstack.org/14421 | 16:27 |
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| dachary | doude: nice one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1065053/comments/5 :-) Could you reference it from a comment added to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14471/ and ask that it is used to replace the original patch ? I.e. revert your +1 to a -1 ? Your patch is definitely better, IMO. | 16:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1065053 in nova "Nova backup image fails" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:29 |
| dachary | doude: it would be too bad if the current patch is merged just because yours is unnoticed. | 16:30 |
| dachary | you may not be able to commit it yet, but Tian Tian can ;-) | 16:30 |
| doude | dachary: Yes Tian Tian can propose it | 16:31 |
| doude | no pb | 16:31 |
| doude | dachary: Do you think it possible to propose to rename the 'snapdhot' function to 'backup' ? | 16:32 |
| dachary | doude: I'd be happy to discuss the scope of the "scheduled backup / snapshot" blueprint once there is a draft. | 16:33 |
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| dachary | doude: renaming snapshot to backup is probably going to meet some resistance ;-) | 16:33 |
| doude | dachary: Why ? | 16:34 |
| cryptographrix | anyone? we have a number of clusters that this breaks with InnoDB being hardcoded. | 16:35 |
| dachary | doude: because you will have to convince all people who like the "snapshot" word to switch to "backup". | 16:35 |
| lifeless | jaypipes: hi, thanks. Will let jml know. | 16:36 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: coolio :) cheers | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | lifeless: great to meet you in San Diego, btw :) | 16:37 |
| lifeless | likewise | 16:38 |
| doude | dachary: ok, I don't try :) | 16:38 |
| lifeless | sorry I was so placid there, had no breather between jobs :) | 16:38 |
| dachary | doude: ahahah | 16:38 |
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| cryptographrix | does anyone have a recommendation as to how not to have a masterless DB setup with InnoDB hardcoded? | 16:41 |
| cryptographrix | *master-slave | 16:42 |
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| mordred | anotherjesse: ping | 17:50 |
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| harlowja | mordred: yt? got a quick question | 18:06 |
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| mordred | harlowja: whassup? | 18:08 |
| mordred | harlowja: (btw, I meant to chat with you about a couple of things last week and then somehow got busy/drunk) | 18:08 |
| harlowja | lol | 18:08 |
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| harlowja | busy and drunk at the same time, lol | 18:09 |
| * mordred blames piston for the drunk part... | 18:09 | |
| lloydde | XD | 18:09 |
| harlowja | well just the anvil -> stackforge stuff, got legal approval, so can start that process (legal guy got angry at me once for making a public git repo...) | 18:09 |
| harlowja | like to get that started, and i think u might be the main man :-p | 18:10 |
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| harlowja | mordred: if now isn't a good time, thats fine also, u might be busy/drunk again, lol | 18:14 |
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| mordred | harlowja: nope, I'll put you on the todo list - on a plane righ tnow, so I'm swinging in and out of network :) | 18:15 |
| harlowja | kk | 18:15 |
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| harlowja | thx much | 18:15 |
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| Vek | Can I get the following three patches reviewed by someone, please? They are: | 19:20 |
| Vek | nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14250/ | 19:20 |
| Vek | glance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14310/ | 19:20 |
| Vek | quantum: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14359/ | 19:20 |
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| luis_ | bcwaldon, i see u r familiar with server backup, is there an api for restore? | 19:26 |
| bcwaldon | luis_: you can rebuild an instance from the image created during a backup | 19:26 |
| bcwaldon | luis_: but there's no semantic to specifically 'restore' | 19:26 |
| luis_ | will it get brand new ip address | 19:26 |
| bcwaldon | luis_: I *think* an instance retains networks on a rebuild | 19:27 |
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| luis_ | so the network configuration of the original image is used in the rebuild | 19:28 |
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| bcwaldon | luis_: don't hold me to that, but yes, I think so | 19:28 |
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| luis_ | ah got it..i had not seen that rebuild action | 19:30 |
| luis_ | thanks! bcwaldon | 19:31 |
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| harlowja | would anyone be interested in a openstackgerrit 'bot' that can do more than just show notifications, i've modded ours to actually allow gerrit commands to be called | 19:48 |
| harlowja | stuff like 'member:osgerritbot: query-gerrit status:closed AND owner:harlowja limit:1' | 19:48 |
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| harlowja | does that seem useful to others? | 19:49 |
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| zykes- | anyone here got a thing to use for billing with openstack ? | 20:31 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: github.com/notmyname/slogging can be used to get swift usage data that can then be sent to a ratings engine (billing) | 20:35 |
| zykes- | notmyname: I meant the rating engine | 20:35 |
| zykes- | notmyname: are you working on Ceilometer for Swift? | 20:36 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: swift | 20:36 |
| zykes- | notmyname: ? | 20:37 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: ah sorry. I read for == or ;-) | 20:37 |
| notmyname | zykes-: no, I'm not working on ceilometer at all | 20:37 |
| zykes- | ;) | 20:38 |
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| zodiak | any nova devs around that can look over/confirm/deny a bug for me please ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1061211 | 20:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1061211 in nova "No 'get_instance' exposed in RPCAPI" [Undecided,New] | 20:48 |
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| zykes- | notmyname: you know of any rating systems ? | 20:52 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: only internal ones that are very specific to their organizations | 20:52 |
| zykes- | doesn't RS use jBilling ? | 20:53 |
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| davidhadas | notmyname: I realized that 100-continue is being sent also for 0 length requests (requests without a body) - this is not inline with the RFC. I therefore opened a bug report to fix that, I also opened 2 more over the weekend, waiting to see if pepole have comments before I submit code. | 21:07 |
| notmyname | davidhadas: ok, cool | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Fixed bug 1068851. Refreshed new crypto for the SSL tests. https://review.openstack.org/14614 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1068851 in keystone "Openssl tests rely on expired certificate" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068851 | 21:13 |
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| arosen | has anyone run into this error devstack today using devatck and nova? "Could not find any suitable endpoint. Correct region?" | 21:37 |
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| maurosr | hey vishy you about? | 21:37 |
| vishy | rmk: can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1067744 | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1067744 in nova "rescue instance with libvirt and "boot from volume"" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:37 |
| vishy | maurosr: yup | 21:37 |
| rmk | vishy: Yep this totally makes sense | 21:40 |
| maurosr | vishy: I was talkingto sean dague earlier today he asked me to open bugs to finalize the api samples work. and I would like to check if you if there is any major thing we must cover before let the minor ones as bugs | 21:40 |
| rmk | I'll take a look at the patch and submit it accordingly | 21:41 |
| zodiak | arosen, nope, I take it you have checked your catalog (assuming you are not using the db of course ;) | 21:42 |
| vishy | maurosr: let me look at what is still left | 21:43 |
| vishy | maurosr: hmm i would put quotas and networks next on the list | 21:46 |
| vishy | but I don't think any of them are dealbreakers | 21:46 |
| vishy | maurosr: are you doing admin actions? | 21:46 |
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| maurosr | vishy: yes, having some trouble with backup, but yes I'm | 21:47 |
| vishy | maurosr: ok the rest as bugs with low-hanging-fruit is probably fine | 21:47 |
| maurosr | well then, I'll go on and open the bugs marking them as low-hang-fruit... make sense to have a bp to this? | 21:48 |
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| maurosr | vishy: ^ | 21:48 |
| maurosr | and mark all bugs related to that bp | 21:48 |
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| vishy | maurosr: yup a blueprint would be great | 21:53 |
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| maurosr | great, tks! | 21:54 |
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| arosen | Is anyone running into this error when using nova* in devstack right now? "Could not find any suitable endpoint. Correct region?" | 22:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Drop duplicate sqlalchemy db api methods https://review.openstack.org/14622 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Update volume and snapshot status on delete https://review.openstack.org/14627 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add meaningful server diagnostic information to fake hypervisor https://review.openstack.org/14321 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Ensure device node exists before wiping during volume deletion https://review.openstack.org/14631 | 22:39 |
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| mnewby | salv-orlando: *ping* | 22:49 |
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| salv-orlando | mnewby: *pong* | 22:51 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: i meant to ask in the meeting - is the intent really to allow more vendor-supplied plugins into core? | 22:52 |
| salv-orlando | do you mean vendor APIs? or vendor plugins? In the latter case, what do you mean by "core"? | 22:53 |
| salv-orlando | vendor-specific API will never be part of the core. | 22:53 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: core => main quantum repo | 22:53 |
| salv-orlando | Actually I think we are considering going the other way. | 22:53 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: vendor plugins. | 22:53 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: *phew* | 22:54 |
| salv-orlando | The main repo should probably be OSS-only | 22:54 |
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| salv-orlando | stuff that anybody could test and review | 22:54 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: +1000 from me to move non-core/vendor specific stuff out ala swift. | 22:54 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: that's all, danke! | 22:54 |
| salv-orlando | mnewby: np, goodngiht | 22:55 |
| salv-orlando | goonigth | 22:55 |
| salv-orlando | ok, this is the proof I'm tired and I need to sleep :) | 22:55 |
| mnewby | salv-orlando: heh, nite! | 22:55 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: ping | 23:07 |
| vishy | jgriffith: pizong | 23:07 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Unless I'm missing something on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1052252 | 23:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1052252 in cinder "Migration 90 removes foreign keys but does not re-add them" [Medium,In progress] | 23:07 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I think it's ok on cinder | 23:07 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: I didn't have to do a migration so the create table *worked* | 23:08 |
| vishy | jgriffith: ah right | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | vishy: Sweet! | 23:08 |
| vishy | jgriffith: so the first migration actually created the foreign key | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | vishy: Yeah | 23:08 |
| vishy | jgriffith: ok mark it invalid then i guess | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | vishy: The problem was the migration I did | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I'll double check | 23:08 |
| jgriffith | vishy: and then update the comments | 23:09 |
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