Tuesday, 2012-10-16

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harlowjahttp://wiki.openstack.org/Summit/Grizzly/Etherpads00:03
harlowjacreiht: http://wiki.openstack.org/Summit/Grizzly/Etherpads00:03
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WormManahh, almost time to go home00:19
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zykes-Kiall: around ?07:18
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dacharydoude: hi.07:26
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bigmeowhow to install glance?08:05
zykes-bigmeow: packages ?08:09
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bigmeowzykes-: yes08:31
zykes-apt-get install glance ?08:32
bigmeowzykes-: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12910088/why-i-failed-to-install-openstack-glance08:32
bigmeowzykes-: i wanna install it from source08:32
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bourkebigmeow: do you have libxslt1-dev installed?08:51
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bigmeowbourke: ok now after install libxml and libxslt09:22
bigmeowbourke: does glance support virtualbox? or it only supports xen and kvm images?09:23
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matelakatHi guys, could anyone tell me what is the purpose of the host field of FixedIP ?11:22
matelakatDoes it mean point to the network host that is serving that IP?11:23
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bigmeowwhy i cannot find the command named glance?12:10
bigmeowthere are only command like glance-api               glance-cache-manage      glance-cache-pruner      glance-manage            glance-replicator12:10
bigmeowglance-cache-cleaner     glance-cache-prefetcher  glance-control           glance-registry          glance-scrubber12:10
davidhadasbigmeow: best ask at #openstack12:11
bigmeowdavidhadas: ok, but people there don't talk:(12:12
bigmeowdavidhadas: what this channel for? only dev problems about openstack?12:13
davidhadasdev only12:13
bigmeowdavidhadas: ok12:15
apeveccommand named glance is in python-glanceclient12:15
bigmeowdavidhadas: why openstack document is not up to date? i dowwnload glance from github12:16
bigmeowdavidhadas: which means it's the latest code, but the document about how to use glance seems not up to date:(12:16
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bigmeowapevec: lol, why it is not included in glance, but be managed as an independent project?12:18
apevecb/c clients can work with different versions (ideally all), so they where all split to separate projects12:20
apevecthere are python-{nova|glance|keystone|swift|quantum|client12:20
bigmeowapevec: that's terrible12:21
bigmeowapevec: better when managed as one project12:21
mrungebigmeow: you know how large this is?12:21
apevecfeel free to start thread on mailing list12:21
bigmeowmrunge: git can handle large projects:)12:22
apevecah yes, one of the reasons was for Horizon to consume only client part of each project12:22
mrungeyes, it can. but that's not the point12:22
apevecotherwise you'd have to install all12:22
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mrungewhat about a dedicated host just for cinder, ...12:23
bigmeowapevec: lol, it's the pitfall of git philosophy:( it sucks when come to the problem to manage projects:(12:24
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dacharydoude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1065053 there is a patch attached to it ?12:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1065053 in nova "Nova backup image fails" [Undecided,In progress]12:44
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dacharydoude: I wonder where is the link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14471/ in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/106505312:45
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doudedachary: The link isn't define in the launchpad ticket12:46
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dacharydoude: how did you find about it ?12:48
dacharyI would have missed it ;-)12:48
doudedachary: I think the developper (gtt116) of the patch must add the link by himself, no ?12:48
doudedachary: because I was trying to push my patch and realized the git branch already exists12:49
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dacharydoude: race condition :-)12:50
doudedachary: yes :)12:50
dacharydoude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1065053/comments/412:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1065053 in nova "Nova backup image fails" [Undecided,In progress]12:50
doudedachary: but I don't know if the proposed solution is the good one12:51
dacharydoude: could you attach your patch to a comment in the ticket ? It may be an inspiration to the guy who owned the ticket12:51
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/1447012:51
doudedachary: perhaps, it'll be better to move the modified function from ComputeManager to the ImageService code12:52
dacharydoude: well, the solution works. It could be better. But in the case of a bug fix to a stable release, the simpler the better. I did not take a look at your patch though.12:52
doudedachary: ok, I'll attach it12:52
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dacharyIn https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14471/ you write : I think it will be better to extract out the method 'fetch_image' to the ImageService (like it was noted inline code by jk0). I suggest you add a link to the proposed patch that you're about to attach to the ticket. It will make it a lot clearer to Tian Tian Gao. An example is worth a thousand words ;-)12:54
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matelakatAnyone knows what is the purpose of FixedIP.host ?12:56
doudedachary: ok, i'll attach my patch12:57
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dacharydoude: IMO moving the function fetch_image should be done in a separate patch. The first patch should be minimum to make it easier to backport to folsom/essex. Moving the function does not need to be backported. If you move the function and fix the bug within the same patch, it will make it more difficult to backport.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14471/13:39
dacharyIf I was maintaining the stable branch, I would immediately cherry pick a patch fixing a problem in a minimal way.13:40
dacharyIf I was to propose a fix to the stable branch that does not exist in trunk, that would require more work for the maintainer. It would be the first time such a patch has to be applied. Do you see my point ?13:41
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doudedachary: Yes, I think you are right. It will be more easy to backport a simple patch to the stable release. I don't push my patch to this ticket. I'll craete a new.14:35
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dacharydoude: +1 :-)14:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/openstack-common: Use self.config in test_zmq  https://review.openstack.org/1434514:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/openstack-common: Revert "Support declare_topic_consumer in impl_zmq"  https://review.openstack.org/1433414:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/openstack-common: Revert "fanout subscriptions in impl_zmq"  https://review.openstack.org/1433514:51
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dacharydoude: you're willing to implement a nova service that runs a "createBackup" according to the frequency set by the first createBackup. Right ?15:05
doudedachary: yes, this is what I want to do15:07
doudeI think to develop a new Nova service15:07
dacharyI wonder if there has been discussions in the past about the rationale of this "backup_type"15:07
dacharyTian Tian seems highly motivated ;-)15:08
dacharyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/106666515:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1066665 in python-novaclient "createBackup action is not implemented" [Undecided,In progress]15:08
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dacharydoude: it would be worth inviting Tian Tian to this chan to join forces.15:10
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dacharydoude: have you done research on why backup_type was added as a parameter to createBackup ? At some point there was a destroyBackup too, IIRC. It might be simpler to continue / revive this work rather than create a new blueprint. This require some archeological research though ;-)15:11
zykes-Why not put in a new service ?15:11
zykes-totally independant from any other that handles "backups"15:12
dacharyzykes-: I second that and my understanding is that it's what doude wants to do.15:12
dacharybbl15:12
zykes-shouldn't be too hard15:12
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doudedachary: Yes, I try to contact Tian Tian to join forces15:15
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doudeI don't know the history of the "backup_type", I can make some research15:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove db access for block devices on terminate_instance  https://review.openstack.org/1098715:31
zykes-doude: company you working for ?15:31
doudeI found this old merge about backup with rotation : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/backup-with-rotate15:33
doudeand this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/backup-with-rotate15:34
doudezykes-: I work for Orange, a multinational telecommunications subsidiary of France Telecom15:35
zykes-doude: you using openstack ?15:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove db access for block devices and network info on reboot  https://review.openstack.org/1392115:36
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Kiallzykes-, I am now15:40
doudezykes-: Yes, we does but not for a public Orange offer15:41
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koolhead17zykes-, http://www.openstack.org/home/Video/ :P15:58
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harlowjaturn the rave music down, lol16:04
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WormManthere's a reason I carry earplugs everywhere I go16:14
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zykes-Kiall: !16:30
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Kiallzykes-, !16:30
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ayoungdolphm, can you bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14328/  when you get a chance?  I want to get the unit tests in, so we can build other tests on top of them.  The REMOTE_USER patch is going to follow on top of this one.17:12
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ayoungHe's going to redo it as a "Requires"17:12
dolphmayoung: looking17:12
dolphmayoung: is this the third proposed patch for the same issue?17:13
dolphmayoung: i reviewed this yesterday17:13
dolphmayoung: with a different Change-Id17:13
dolphmayoung: nvm, this is a bit different... this is confusing17:14
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ayoungdolphm, REMOTE_USER is actually going to change it a litle more.  When REMOTE_USER is set, there is no need for an auth:  section in the request.  But for token and non REMOTE_USER cases, this is probably the right behavior17:20
zykes-ayoung: yo!17:20
ayoungdolphm, which was the other patch?17:21
ayoungzykes-, hey17:21
dolphmayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14281/17:21
dolphmayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14208/17:21
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zykes-ayoung / dolphm in the V3 API would one be able to have nested domains or organizations ?17:22
dolphmzykes-: nope, there's no hierarchy17:22
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zykes-isn't a project nested underneath a domain ?17:23
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dolphmdomains -> projects -> (and *potentially*) granular "resource groups" (physical servers or whatever)17:23
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dolphmzykes-: yes, but there's no hiararchy within domains, or within projects, etc17:24
zykes-why not nested domains ?17:24
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dolphmzykes-: why nested domains?17:24
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zykes-dolphm: say Company X > Dep X > Proj X ?17:25
dolphmDomain: "Company X, Dep X", Project: "Proj X" ?17:26
zykes-Wondering how I would model that in the v3 api17:26
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dolphmayoung: -1'd17:29
zykes-guess I'll wait and see in Grizzly dolphm ;)17:30
ayoungdolphm, thanks.  Anything pro you need for that quid?17:30
dolphmzykes-: if a company wanted to have multiple domains, there's nothing stopping them from doing so in v317:30
zykes-ok :)17:30
dolphmayoung: take your pick :P https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:dolph+status:open,n,z17:31
dolphmayoung: actually i don't see anything that's up for immediate merge that you haven't reviewed17:33
dolphmayoung: except for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14208/17:33
dolphmayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12796/17:34
dolphmayoung: (actually it looks like a few in keystoneclient are waiting for you)17:34
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ayoungdolphm, looking17:37
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ayoungdolphm, Can you explain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12796/1/keystoneclient/base.py to me?  Is this a performance tune?17:42
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dolphmayoung: could probably file a bug for this, but i noticed the lazy loading behavior was being triggered for resources already loaded by this manager, because it wasn't setting loaded=True (which I assume was simply an oversight when lazy loading was added)17:43
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dolphmayoung: in other words, objects were being loaded twice (once explicitly, and once when lazy loading was triggered)17:44
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dolphmayoung: going to the oslo session?17:50
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Set host prior to allocating network information.  https://review.openstack.org/1448818:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: fix bug with swob.Request accept property  https://review.openstack.org/1438618:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Random pep8 fixes!  https://review.openstack.org/1438819:28
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geekinutahSo I wrote an api extension the other day, how do I go about contributing this back to the community?20:10
geekinutahI get bugs for fixes, and I see blueprints for major features, but not sure what to do with minor things.....20:11
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otherwiseguygeekinutah, I'm a newb and not 100% on these things yet, but check out http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow20:21
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dansmith~/.20:43
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judd7backchannel?20:44
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WormManreal-time chat to discuss and mock presenters :)21:06
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Handle invalid xml request to return BadRequest  https://review.openstack.org/1344621:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Setup the pep8 config to check bin/glance-control  https://review.openstack.org/1449221:52
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robromanodevstack question: http://planet.openstack.org/ says to get started with ubuntu 12.04 on a VM on Macos,   you need to edit a keystone file, but I can't find it. step 8.3.1 says  to configure Keystone to return the VM’s “public” IP run  sed -i “s#publicURL = http://10.0.2.15#publicURL = http://172.16.0.1#g” /etc/keystone/default_catalog.templates22:04
robromanoAny ideas where this config moved to?22:04
robromanoso I can see Horizon from my outer host (MacOS)22:04
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judd7Where is the backchannel?22:19
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