Monday, 2012-09-24

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Kiallzykes-, ping00:05
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riskableI keep getting 400 errors trying to access Rackspace's OpenStack API with their own python-novaclient lib01:07
riskable...just trying to call client.servers.list()01:08
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riskableNever had problems with openstack.compute module01:08
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riskableHas anyone gotten it to actually work?01:10
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riskableUgh, I can get it to work with my password but not the API key01:31
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vbHaving issues with unit tests on horizon. Any horizon developers?05:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Add common popen support to the cisco plugin  https://review.openstack.org/1355106:04
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zykes-Kiall: ping pong06:20
zykes-around ? :)06:20
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Kiallzykes-, literally having my morning coffee ;)06:52
KiallI was so nearly about to push that code up last night, before deciding it needs a final once over before I do..06:54
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zykes-awwww!07:00
zykes-common Kiall :d07:00
zykes-danwent: ping07:01
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zykes-Kiall: how goes publishing ? ;)08:45
KiallI'll get it out tonight :) Have too much to do today!08:50
KiallJust want to give it a final run-over before..08:50
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zykes-ah, darn ;)08:57
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zykes-danwent: are you here ?09:00
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zykes-salv-orlando: ping.09:08
zykes-https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/105538409:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1055384 in quantum "dnsmasq - Stderr: 'Option "-no-hosts" is unknown, try "ip -help".\n'" [Undecided,New]09:08
salv-orlandozykes-: seen that looking at it09:09
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salv-orlandozykes-: can you confirm that with root_helper=sudo it works fine with or without namespaces?09:24
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zykes-let me check salv-orlando .09:37
zykes-seems to work fine then yes.09:38
salv-orlandozykes-: thanks09:39
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zykes-what is the issue salv-orlando ?10:08
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zykes-salv-orlando:10:34
zykes-if you don't use namespacing then l3 supports only 1 router or ?10:35
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salv-orlandono namespaces --> only one router supported. You should put router_id = <your router id> in l3 agent conf file10:51
zykes-like one global router ?10:51
zykes-ok.10:51
salv-orlandothe issue with bug 1055384 appears to be quantum-rootwrap picking wrong filter. Have not yet triaged however.10:52
zykes-but, ehm10:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1055384 in quantum "dnsmasq - Stderr: 'Option "-no-hosts" is unknown, try "ip -help".\n'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105538410:52
salv-orlandono one global - one per agent10:52
zykes-question then, what if you have multiple tenants etc?10:52
zykes-then you need one agent pr tenant ?10:52
zykes-or what the10:52
zykes-this stuff is confusing10:52
zykes-;p10:52
salv-orlandoAll this subtle details should be clear once the admin guide is finalized.10:53
zykes-can you help me get going ?10:53
salv-orlandoBut yes, the namespaces are what allow a single agent to handle multiple routers10:53
zykes-atm I have 1 router pr tenant10:53
zykes-but how does that work with 1 router pr 1 agnet ?10:54
salv-orlandoso you want to deploy multiple routers, 1 router per tenant, without namespace?10:54
zykes-no, I need only 1 router ...10:54
salv-orlandook - so you should be fine deploying just 1 l3 agent10:54
zykes-yeah, but atm I attach 1 router to the tenant10:54
zykes-should I make a "public" router or somthing then ?10:54
salv-orlandoI am not sure we can share a router at the moment. Do you have multiple tenants which need to use the same router?10:55
zykes-is there a other way? Or are you screwed ...10:55
zykes-In nova-network you would have 1 gw ip of all tenant's networks10:56
zykes-except for floating ip's10:56
salv-orlandoI still do not fully understand what you're trying to achieve. Multiple tenants all going out through the same router?10:56
zykes-yeah ?10:57
zykes-so you don't waste public ip's10:57
zykes-how do you do it if not ?10:59
salv-orlandoadmins can attached any subnet to their routers10:59
zykes-yeah10:59
salv-orlandothen you can create a router with admin credentials - set an ex gw for it, and then attach subnets with admin credentials10:59
salv-orlandoyou cannot let the tenants attach themselves to an admin router10:59
zykes-with admin credentials yeah10:59
zykes-that kinda sucks ;)10:59
zykes-but hmm10:59
zykes-handle_internal_only_routers = False < that option then ?11:00
salv-orlandothis is why you have the launchpad bug trucker11:00
salv-orlandotracker11:00
salv-orlandothat is for routers without an ext gw ip11:00
zykes-yeah, doesn't that mean if you create a router without a ext gw ip it will route via the compute node or smth?11:00
salv-orlandoI guess in that case it will route quantum subnets, but will not do nat11:01
zykes-uhm, ok11:01
salv-orlandowhen this feature has been designed and implemented the use case of a shared router was left out. If you file a bug - and make sure it is taken care of, I am pretty sure you'll see that happening. However, I'm afraid it's too late for Folsom11:02
zykes-but the router_id and gateway_external_net_id thing then11:02
zykes-means I can only have 1 tenants router / inet access attached to one l3 agent ?11:02
salv-orlandothe first is for running the l3 agent without namespace support11:02
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zykes-well namespaces is useless anyways if you need security groups..11:03
salv-orlandothe second is because a single l3 agent is not able to handle nat rules to multiple default gateways.11:03
salv-orlandozykes-: agreed.11:03
zykes-or metadata stuff11:03
salv-orlandozykes-: in partial defense of the 1 router per tenant approach I might argue competitor OSS IaaS stacks deploy 1 VM per virtual network for NAT service!11:04
zykes-ah k11:04
zykes-what if you don't have 1 zillion public ip's then ?11:04
salv-orlandoThe counter-argument is what if you have 1 zillion vms all sharing the same public ip?11:05
zykes-yeah, probably :p11:06
salv-orlandohowever, I think we're both oo busy for aging :)11:06
salv-orlandoarguing :)11:06
zykes-salv-orlando: if not using namespacing and I can only have 1 tenant on the network with the l3 agent ?11:06
zykes-that seems a bit restrictive though for a small deplyoment11:06
salv-orlandoyou mean the external network?11:06
salv-orlandoor the internal networks?11:07
zykes-to get NAT working towards external11:07
salv-orlandoyou can have as many internal networks you want, as long as there are no overlapping IPs. But for each agent you have only 1 external network (i.e.: public IP range) - regardless of whether you're running namespace or not.11:08
salv-orlandozykes-: not sure Ive answered your question11:08
salv-orlandobut I did try my best :)11:08
zykes-salv-orlando: basically, the router is tenant bound yes? If I have n tenants how does this work with the l3 agent ?11:09
zykes-unless you actually make the routers as a admin and manually do the attachment each time11:09
salv-orlandowith n tenants - you will have 1 router per tenant, unless, as you say, the router is owned by the admin11:11
salv-orlandothis also implies 1 distinct public IP for each tenant11:12
zykes-so, then you're screwed basically in Folsom if you're doing a "nova network" model which has a shared gateway for n tenants unless you do 1 public ip for vm11:12
zykes-?11:12
salv-orlandoI need to double check with danwent, but I guess that you're right. That model is not supported in Quantum11:13
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zykes-that's kinda another - for people wanting to deploy .11:13
zykes-many use-cases that falls off11:13
salv-orlandoIf you feel very bad about this I guess you can try and raise the issue before Quantum is released11:14
salv-orlandoUnfortunately I do not have control over the release process11:14
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salv-orlandottx and danwent control that. You can bring up the issue with them - although I believe the approach for the Folsom - Grizzly time frame is that according to your use case, you'll pick what's best for you: either nova-network or quantum11:15
zykes-salv-orlando: kinda bad deploying nova-network when it'll be deprecated and the "cool" features are coming in quantum..11:16
zykes-unless you go commercial and buy NVP alike software11:16
zykes-salv-orlando: for a tenant in other stacks you deploy 1 router vm or ?11:17
salv-orlandozykes-: I understand that there are several trade-offs in this choice, and some might be painful.11:17
salv-orlandoI know only about Cloudstack, very limited about Eucalyptus, nothing about OpenNebula11:18
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salv-orlandoEucalyptus the network scenarios are pretty much flat.11:18
salv-orlandoCloudstack there's a Virtual Router VMs. Each network gets its own VM (Debian Lenny, 128MB ram(11:18
salv-orlando)11:18
zykes-it would be fun if one could get access to NV software, but that's like 6 months out still I feel that companies are willing to release to mid-range businesses11:18
salv-orlandoYou mean companies like Midokura, and VMware (ex Nicira)?11:19
salv-orlandoor even NEC11:19
zykes- yes, or BSN11:19
salv-orlandozykes-: yeah sorry for not mentioning Big Switch (If any of them is on this channel, please accept my apologies :) )11:20
salv-orlandoDespite working for one of those, I have no idea about goto market plans for enterprises.11:20
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zykes-basically a scenario for a org salv-orlando could be to have a shared router between tenants even but diff subnets due to permissions but still only use 1 public ip if you get the drift11:24
zykes-because a tenant could be a department basically .11:24
salv-orlandook11:25
zykes-does that make sense ?11:25
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zykes-but salv-orlando final question then, can I use quantum in it's current state to provide networking to multiple tenants without namespacing ?11:27
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salv-orlandoThe answer is: it depends on the set of network services that you want to provide and the constraints that you're willing to accept11:29
salv-orlandoin a nutshell:11:29
salv-orlando- isolated l2 networks: yes11:29
salv-orlando- IPAM: yes with dhcp, no overlapping IPs11:29
salv-orlando- Inter-subnet routing: yes11:30
salv-orlando- NAT: yes, but you need 1 l3 agent per router11:30
salv-orlando- Floating IPsL yes (see NAT for restrictions)11:30
zykes-in other words 1 l3 agent then pr tenant router then ..11:31
salv-orlandozykes-: if you're non using namespaces11:31
salv-orlandoand there's the security groups and metadata11:31
zykes-well then you're screwed both ways ;)11:31
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salv-orlandoYes - you cannot have security groups, metadata, and overlapping IPs I am afraid11:32
zykes-yeah, and with non-overlapping you need like a tenant router to l3 agent ..11:32
zykes-either way of what you do you break some kind of feature that I see as "core" to a deployment..11:32
salv-orlandozykes-: it seems that for your needs Quantum is not yet suitable for you; unless you accept to do a good deal of manual work.11:33
zykes-salv-orlando: only to me ? ;)11:33
zykes-manual work would be coding a iptables agent and fixing metadata services ;)11:34
salv-orlandozykes-: you're definitely not the only one, but luckily there are a good deal of users who can already deploy quantum nowadays - even with the OSS plugins11:34
zykes-salv-orlando: yeah for a flat scenario it's great if you need only 1 router11:35
salv-orlandoAnyway, please file bugs or blueprints for this work that needs to be done.11:35
salv-orlandoI will forgot about it in about 20 seconds11:35
zykes-if you're going for a combination of both or multiple tenants not so great.11:35
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zykes-salv-orlando: if you use namespacing and the handle_internal stuff what does that do ?11:59
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ttxGlance core: please review RC2-blocking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13525/14:02
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ttxmarkwash: ^14:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fixes snapshotting of instances booted from volume  https://review.openstack.org/1354114:25
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garykannegentle: ping14:33
annegentlegaryk: ayup14:34
garykannegentle: hi. thanks for the help with the docs. i have run into a problem with the xml:id. can you help me there.14:34
garykannegentle: E [ISO Schematron (XSLT 2.0)] xml:id required on book, part, section, chapter, appendix, and preface. (@xml:id) [assert]14:35
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annegentlegaryk: yep, you have added a <section> and it needs to have <section xml:id="unique-file-name-like-identitfier">14:36
annegentlethe xml:id give us a unique HTML name but also make it possible for Disqus threads to remain with a page's content14:37
garykannegentle: ok, i'll try14:37
garykannegentle: do i just enter is manually or via oxygen?14:37
annegentlegaryk: manually is best, the ones from a tool are not really human-readable14:38
garykannegentle: sorry for the really silly questions14:38
annegentleusually I just use the title and put in dashes for spaces14:38
annegentlenot at all!14:38
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garykok, thanks.14:39
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garykannegentle: :) thanks. it works!14:40
annegentlegaryk: good-o!14:40
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annegentlegaryk: was it you I was asking how RedHat authors DocBook internally?14:40
garykannegentle: rkukura14:41
annegentlegaryk: ok, that's right thanks :)14:41
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annegentlesorry don't mean to lump y'all together :)14:41
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annegentleand at first I thought there was a new tool called rkukura and I was jealous momentarily heh heh14:42
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garykannegentle: rkukura comes in very handy at times :)14:43
annegentlegaryk: rkukura sprinkles magic dust on all your documents making them amazing14:45
garyk:)14:45
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Allow deletion of instance with failed vol cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/1354214:59
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zulttx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/105554915:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1055549 in nova "Upgrading from Essex to Folsom missing reservations table." [Undecided,New]15:06
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ttxzul: tagged. will ping vishy ^15:06
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zulttx: cool15:07
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garykannegentle: annegentle15:14
garykannegentle: do you have a few secs. in the comments on the review i was asked to update the pom file.15:14
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garykannegentle: is this not generate automatically15:15
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vishyzul: did you get any errors during nova-manage db sync?15:47
vishyzul: are any other tables missing?15:47
zulvishy:  i didnt notice any15:48
zulthats the only one complaining15:48
zulvishy: lemme do another upgrade test15:48
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vishyzul: can you check to see what version your db reports? select version from migrate_version15:49
zulvishy: will do15:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: add Quantum endpoint in sample data  https://review.openstack.org/1294216:03
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annegentlegaryk: I'll take a look16:05
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garykannegentle: i posted a patch. hope it is ok16:06
annegentlegaryk: it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13569/ right? I'll test16:06
garykannegentle: yes. thanks16:07
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annegentlegaryk: the pom.xml change looks good to me, building locally to make sure16:10
garykok, thanks16:10
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zulvishy: so there was nothing in the nova-manage.log but when i did the upgrade again and ran nova-manage db sync again everything turned out ok16:21
zul(ie: services are starting again)16:22
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clarkbnotmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/21099/ prosrv is a global. My current theory is that test_leak_1 does something to that global to make it unsuitable for use by the next test16:27
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notmynameclarkb: interesting. thanks16:32
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clarkbor maybe that buffer is too big for something somewhere16:34
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clarkbnotmyname: that paste is true for py26 and py27 on oneiric16:45
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notmynameclarkb: can you jump in #openstack-swift to discuss it?16:46
clarkbsure16:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Add functional tests for the HTTP store  https://review.openstack.org/1297517:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Add XML namespace support for OSADM service api.  https://review.openstack.org/1284817:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: add Swift endpoint in sample data  https://review.openstack.org/1313817:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: Require httplib2 version 0.7 or higher.  https://review.openstack.org/1314317:06
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Backslash continuation cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/1284417:07
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heckjdolphm_zzz: ayoung - 'round?17:10
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ayoungyeah...17:12
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ayoungheckj, I'm here17:13
heckjayoung: what was the name of the etherpad where we'd stashed grizzly summit topic ideas? Trying to start to nail those down, get BP's linked, do the PM work, etc.17:13
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dolphmheckj: what's up17:15
heckjdolphm: looking for etherpad with grizzly design summit topic ideas - couldn't find a bookmark or link17:16
heckj(doing cleanup/administrivia prior to summit)17:16
dolphmheckj: was it linked in an openstack-meeting maybe?17:16
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heckjgood question - I'll got back through and look17:20
dolphm_heckj: http://etherpad.openstack.org/GrizzlyKeystoneSessions17:21
heckjGOTIT! Thanks17:22
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ayoungheckj, http://etherpad.openstack.org/GrizzlyKeystoneSessions17:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Ensure workers set to 0 for all functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/1352517:33
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sdaguevishy: when you pop back on, I need a little clarification on the all_extensions tests for sample api testing, just to make sure I'm doing this right17:53
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annegentlejgriffith: around?18:52
jgriffithannegentle: Hey there18:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: notify calling process we are ready to serve  https://review.openstack.org/1323719:06
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jgriffithcould use a sanity check on a simple cinder review if anybody has 60 seconds: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13588/19:18
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ttxbcwaldon: how is your glance doc fix coming up ?19:32
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bcwaldonttx: working on it19:34
vishyadam_g: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/102943019:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1029430 in nova "KVM guests networking issues with no virbr0 and with vhost_net kernel modules loaded" [High,Confirmed]19:34
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vishydo we need to get a fix in folsom for that?19:34
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maurosrn19:37
ttxbcwaldon: is it going to be completed by EOD ?19:38
bcwaldonttx: yes sir19:38
arosen1Hey vishy, random question, the function def remove_rules(self, context, security_group, rule_ids):  for handling the removal of security group rules is written so that multiple rule_ids can be deleted at once. Though, this will never happen because the API is DELETE v2/{tenant_id}/os-security-groups/{security_group_id} Right?19:38
ttxbcwaldon: cool19:38
vishyarosen1: hmm let me check19:39
arosen1vishy: This can only happen for add_rules since you can put multiple rules in the POST to v2/{tenant_id}/os-security-groups19:39
vishyarosen1: ec2 can multidelete19:40
* arosen1 oops v2/{tenant_id}/os-security-group-rules19:40
vishyarosen1: se nova/api/ec2/cloud.py line 58719:40
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arosen1vishy: hrm looking here http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using-network-security.html#deleting-security-group-rule it doesn't look like ec2 can multi delete as far as I can tell.19:57
arosen1https://ec2.amazonaws.com/ ?Action=RevokeSecurityGroupIngress &IpPermissions.1.IpProtocol=tcp &IpPermissions.1.FromPort=80 &IpPermissions.1.ToPort=80 &IpPermissions.1.IpRanges.1CidrIp=0.0.0.0/0 &...auth parameters...19:58
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vishyit looks like there is a way to revoke a rule that applies to more than one20:01
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vishyarosen1: I'm not quite sure how it happens, I think that there are situations where creating a rule with no protocol actually creates 3 rules for you20:03
vishyarosen1: and so revoke has to revoke all three. I remember something along those lines20:03
vishyarosen1: looks like you can specify more than one ip range?20:03
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vishyarosen1: which is equivalent to more than one rule20:04
arosen1vishy: thanks20:04
arosen1vishy:  I'll try it out.20:05
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heckjdtroyer: thanks - missed that. Cleaned and review updated20:13
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dtroyerheckj: +!20:14
heckj:-)20:14
dtroyeror +1 of you prefer to not use a shift key randomly20:15
heckjheh - I thought that was an emphatic +120:15
dtroyerwe should add that20:15
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heckjdtroyer: BTW: I made a blueprint to line up keystoneclient and it's python library API to the UnifiedCLI work you've been doing. Recent, er, pain with novaclient made me want to use keystoneclient from within novaclient (like glanceclient does) - I expect that we might want to change some internal client API libraries to make that a touch easier.20:16
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heckjhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/update-keystoneclient-to-unifiedcli20:17
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Spelling: ownz=>owns  https://review.openstack.org/1358920:31
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ttxclayg: please rereview https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13588/20:33
jgriffithrmk: ping20:35
rmkjgriffith: pong20:35
jgriffithrmk: Remember when I talked about the check around the dmsetup remove call?20:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Add missing entries in setup, fix up pip-requires  https://review.openstack.org/1358821:18
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vish1danwent: ping21:43
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zykes-vish1: they're @ networking meeting atm ;p21:45
rmkjgriffith: yep21:46
vish1oh maybe i could just jump in there21:46
zykes-:o21:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Document api deployment configuration  https://review.openstack.org/1359721:57
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dhellmanndtroyer: ping?21:59
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zykes-danwent: possible to land all the "missing" stuff in early grizzly ?22:18
zykes-like early early22:18
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vishydansmith: sorry I had a phone call, I just wanted to make sure that branch makes sense to you22:31
adam_gvishy: around?22:32
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adam_gwow, scroll lock22:32
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vishyadam_g: yes22:32
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adam_gvishy: was taking a poke at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029430 .. is there anywhere in nova's current iptables code to add to the mangle table?22:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1029430 in nova "KVM guests networking issues with no virbr0 and with vhost_net kernel modules loaded" [High,Confirmed]22:33
vishyadam_g: there isn't anywhere that does it now22:34
vishyadam_g: but I think it would support it22:34
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adam_gvishy: is that something that would be considered for Folsom?  alternatively, adding a flag to toggle vhost_net (like there is for virtio) would probably work22:35
vishyadam_g: vhost_net is a kernel module on the host22:36
vishynot sure how we could control that from nova22:36
adam_gvishy: sorry, not vhost_net, 'vhost=on' for the kvm process22:36
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vishyadam_g: what does that flag do? just disable vhost?22:36
vishyadam_g: messing with iptables rules seems risky for rc222:37
vishyso we probably have to go stable/folsom route22:37
vishyadam_g: but adding the rule seems like the right thing to do22:37
vishyadam_g: on nova-network startup22:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix rootwrap filter for dnsmasq when no namespace is used  https://review.openstack.org/1357222:40
adam_gvishy: in the domains xml <interface>, <driver name='vhost'/> enables vhost, which requierse that tables entry for dhcp to work. do not know if its a new thing in libvirt, but domains will use <driver name='vhost'/> by default if the kernel supports it22:40
adam_gunless <driver name='qemu'/> is specified.22:41
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vishyadam_g: gotcha22:44
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vishyadam_g: I think putting in the iptables fix is preferrable to disabling vhost22:44
adam_gvishy: agreed22:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: xenapi: fix undefined variable in logging message  https://review.openstack.org/1360123:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Integration tests virtual interfaces API extension  https://review.openstack.org/1358023:05
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