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cdub | markmcclain: sorry for being dense, i'm still missing something (the ip's are internal to the guests, and vlan traffic is layer 2) | 00:03 |
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markmcclain | the IPs are separated by l2 segment until traffic goes through the host that runs DHCP server or the l3 gateway. At point in time, all of the traffic is processed by the same IP stack so the stack can get confused where to route packets when the l3 segments overlap | 00:06 |
cdub | markmcclain: ah, so the ip here is a gateway and configured in the host | 00:08 |
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markmcclain | right | 00:09 |
cdub | markmcclain: because the dhcp piece (still) is only layer 2 and shouldn't require any namespace | 00:09 |
markmcclain | DISCOVER are layer 2 messages, but renewals are unicast IP | 00:09 |
cdub | ah, you're right | 00:09 |
cdub | markmcclain: ok, thanks, it's all making more sense now | 00:10 |
markmcclain | you're welcome… like I said we've got to add docs about this since some distro releases don't have all of the tools needed for namespace support | 00:11 |
cdub | markmcclain: right, most won't | 00:11 |
cdub | markmcclain: there's the "roll your own" and stash it in quantum/bin (rather ugly) | 00:12 |
markmcclain | honestly I've considered it | 00:12 |
cdub | markmcclain: and i was hoping to understand the issue to think of some other way to manage | 00:13 |
cdub | (i.e. policy routing and marking packets on device egress) | 00:13 |
cdub | well, it's a oneline binary :) | 00:13 |
cdub | clone(CLONE_NEWNET) basically | 00:14 |
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markmcclain | yeah.. it seems the kernel support has been around longer than tool support | 00:14 |
cdub | yup | 00:14 |
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smoser | mikal, ping | 00:19 |
mikal | smoser: oh hai! | 00:20 |
smoser | vishy, you too | 00:20 |
smoser | hey | 00:20 |
smoser | so i'm confused by vish's comment on patchset 7 | 00:21 |
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smoser | (wouldn't it be neat if i could give you a link?) | 00:21 |
smoser | the files.json[] stuff... | 00:21 |
mikal | About wanting file inject to be a json file? | 00:21 |
smoser | where would the majority of that data come from? | 00:21 |
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smoser | all we have is name and path | 00:21 |
mikal | Yeah, I just skipped the elements I couldn't get | 00:21 |
smoser | i'm almost certain the api doesn't provide owner adn such. | 00:22 |
smoser | nor really shoudl it. | 00:22 |
smoser | so.. | 00:22 |
smoser | my thoughts as to its location under /openstack.... | 00:22 |
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smoser | the reason i suggested /files is because I wasn't planning on putting the "injected files" into the web service under /openstack/files | 00:22 |
smoser | and my plan was that /openstack/XXX | 00:22 |
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smoser | was a filesystem view of the content in http://169.254.169.254/openstack | 00:23 |
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mikal | smoser: sure | 00:23 |
mikal | vishy: ping | 00:23 |
mikal | I really want you and vishy to come up with a plan here together | 00:23 |
mikal | And then I'll just twiddle the code to implement it | 00:23 |
smoser | yeah. | 00:23 |
smoser | personally, i think the idea of "files" are kind of silly. | 00:24 |
mikal | At the moment its a json file in openstack with the data as base64 inside the json | 00:24 |
smoser | and that "blob" (which is what user-data is) is so much more generally effective | 00:24 |
smoser | the filename/value is just a specialized bit of that. | 00:24 |
smoser | with no specific value | 00:24 |
smoser | right. | 00:25 |
smoser | so i guess my feeling on that is that it is that | 00:25 |
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smoser | * the files api does not contain permissions and as a result is just a very dumbed down view of files | 00:26 |
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smoser | * if you're going to embed it in json, then why bother? The user (and cloud-init or another in guest user) can choose any format they want for the user-data. | 00:26 |
smoser | the json fomrated data makes it more difficult to use than ust 'rsync -a /mnt/cdrom/files/ /' | 00:27 |
smoser | and the real value in "injected files" was either no cloud-init or "really simple cloud-init" | 00:27 |
mikal | So here's the thing. I don't care how this bit is implemented. I just want to stop re-writing it. If you and vishy can reach an agreement, then I'll implement it. | 00:28 |
smoser | * if we think that it should go at /opesnstack/YYYY-MM-DD/fioles.json, then we should put it in the web service also, but i really dont think we should put that there as I think people are probably expecting to put sensitive info there. | 00:28 |
smoser | right. | 00:28 |
smoser | i agree, mikal | 00:28 |
smoser | youve done great. | 00:28 |
smoser | and i dont really care a lot. | 00:28 |
mikal | I think the rsync thing sounds like a pretty good arguement for actual files, not json | 00:28 |
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mikal | But vishy is a lot smarter than me and its possible he has a cunning plan or has seen something I haven't | 00:28 |
smoser | (well, in practice, its not really usable due to no persmissions) | 00:28 |
smoser | i guess root:root655 is reasonable for a lot of things though. | 00:29 |
smoser | 655 | 00:29 |
smoser | 644 | 00:29 |
smoser | :) | 00:29 |
smoser | ok. i'll sit and wait for vishy | 00:30 |
smoser | i'm planning on spending some time trying to write cirros support for this. | 00:30 |
mikal | I think having a guest side implementation would really help validate what we've done | 00:31 |
mikal | So please do | 00:31 |
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smoser | oh. mikal one thing. | 00:33 |
smoser | the label. you used 'config' | 00:33 |
mikal | Yep | 00:33 |
smoser | which i thin is a change from what it was | 00:33 |
smoser | maybe we shoudl do config-2 | 00:34 |
smoser | ? | 00:34 |
smoser | if you were intenindt to indicate it was not the original config drive. | 00:34 |
smoser | (which is actually a good idea) | 00:34 |
smoser | or cfgdrv-2 | 00:34 |
mikal | The v1 label was "config" | 00:34 |
mikal | I can change it to "config-2" for v2 | 00:35 |
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smoser | mikal, i'm indifferent i gues. | 00:43 |
smoser | i thoguth you had actually changed it. | 00:43 |
smoser | but having a version there would'nt hurt ig uess. | 00:43 |
smoser | i guess | 00:43 |
mikal | Yeah, I've done it, but I'll wait until I have something else to upload | 00:46 |
mikal | Its not worth an entire patch revision to itself | 00:46 |
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smoser | i agree. | 00:54 |
smoser | mikal, did you remove the _name fields ? | 00:54 |
smoser | from the ec2 rendering? | 00:54 |
smoser | fwiw, i'm interestd in getting something in as a starting point | 00:54 |
smoser | and then we can have a week or 2 to kind of fix things | 00:54 |
mikal | I'm not sure what _name fields are? | 00:58 |
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mikal | smoser: ^-- | 01:01 |
smoser | in the ec2 metadata service. | 01:01 |
smoser | they're not shown. | 01:01 |
smoser | but in your metadata.js you need to remove them. | 01:02 |
smoser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8873/ | 01:02 |
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mikal | smoser: ahhh, that's all in metadata/base.py now | 01:04 |
smoser | right. you need to fix it though. | 01:04 |
smoser | if a key is named _name just drop it | 01:04 |
mikal | In the top level dict? | 01:05 |
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mikal | smoser: ahhh, its only in the public-keys subdict? | 01:06 |
smoser | right. | 01:06 |
mikal | And just strip them out, yeah? | 01:07 |
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smoser | yeah. | 01:15 |
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winston-d | jgriffith, ping | 01:56 |
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jgriffith | winston-d: Hey... was just looking for you :) | 02:00 |
jgriffith | winston-d: How are ya? | 02:00 |
winston-d | jgriffith, fine. thx. | 02:00 |
winston-d | jgriffith, i've just uploaded new patch for python cinderclient | 02:01 |
jgriffith | winston-d: hehe... we were working on the same thing :) | 02:01 |
jgriffith | winston-d: Nice catch | 02:01 |
jgriffith | winston-d: I just noticed this afternoon all of those params were missing (metadata, az etc) | 02:01 |
winston-d | jgriffith, oops. i would abandon my patch if you want to merge my change into yours. | 02:03 |
jgriffith | winston-d: no no.. not at all | 02:03 |
jgriffith | winston-d: There are other issues that should stay seperate from your patch | 02:04 |
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winston-d | jgriffith, ok. | 02:04 |
jgriffith | winston-d: Thanks! | 02:04 |
winston-d | jgriffith, sorry, just dropped from very unstable 3G MIFI. | 02:07 |
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winston-d | jgriffith, i'd like to do some enhancement to 'cinder-mange'. for now, 'cinder-mange host list' only list host, not showing whether the host is up or down, and also without services info; i think it'd be great if we have something like 'nova-mange service list' | 02:09 |
jgriffith | winston-d: I don't see why that wouldn't be good to put in | 02:12 |
jgriffith | winston-d: was the AZ change the last thing you had planned to work on? I thought there was something else you had as well? | 02:13 |
winston-d | jgriffith, i was going to add enhancement to scheduler, making 'host manager' work, adding 'filter' scheduler to allow more advanced scheduling policy. | 02:15 |
winston-d | jgriffith, do you have anything else that needs to be taken care of before F-3? | 02:15 |
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jgriffith | winston-d: Yes :) | 02:15 |
jgriffith | winston-d: The good thing is most items are being actively worked by folks | 02:16 |
jgriffith | winston-d: If you want to focus on the two items you're working on that would be great | 02:16 |
jgriffith | winston-d: We're basicly shut out of new changes on Tuesday | 02:16 |
winston-d | jgriffith, ok | 02:16 |
jgriffith | winston-d: Features at any rate | 02:17 |
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winston-d | jgriffith, also there's some minor bug fix, clean-ups i'd love to do, things like unused imports, unused config opts. | 02:18 |
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vishy | smoser: sup? | 02:43 |
smoser | hey. | 02:43 |
smoser | so.. | 02:43 |
smoser | you read backscroll at all? | 02:43 |
smoser | i am just questioning th evalue of "injected" files. when they're not really injected at all. | 02:43 |
smoser | read the backscroll, see if you can make any sense of it. | 02:44 |
vishy | a bit | 02:44 |
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vishy | smoser: I think they have basically no value | 02:44 |
smoser | :) | 02:44 |
smoser | funny | 02:44 |
vishy | smoser: but they are in the spec | 02:44 |
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smoser | well, they are essentially massive key/value pairs | 02:44 |
smoser | that you can put in | 02:44 |
smoser | at least if in config drive's perspective. | 02:45 |
vishy | smoser: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/Server_Personality-d1e2543.html | 02:46 |
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smoser | well, but if you're not actually putting them inside the guest, (which is what you're doing here) | 02:46 |
smoser | then you're really not per that spec. | 02:46 |
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vishy | smoser: well the idea is that we get the exact same functionality without having to inject them | 02:47 |
vishy | smoser: so we put them in some format that cloud-init can do the same thing | 02:47 |
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vishy | smoser: so we can turn off injection completely | 02:47 |
smoser | are you going to put them in the metadata service ? | 02:48 |
smoser | http://169.254.169.254/openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/personalities/ ? | 02:48 |
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vishy | smoser: well the initial thought was that they would go there too yes | 02:48 |
smoser | well, i think they should go in both places if either. | 02:48 |
vishy | smoser: i agree | 02:49 |
smoser | that was one reason suggested them *not* in /openstack on the config drive | 02:49 |
smoser | but /injected | 02:49 |
smoser | er... /files | 02:49 |
smoser | whatever. | 02:49 |
vishy | ? | 02:49 |
smoser | before you talked to mikal, he had just put the files under /files | 02:50 |
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smoser | ie, file input as "/etc/my.conf" would go to /files/etc/my.conf | 02:50 |
smoser | making consumption very easy | 02:50 |
smoser | rsync -a /media/cdrom/files/ / | 02:50 |
vishy | smoser: so that is fine, but it makes all sorts of security issues | 02:50 |
smoser | not really. | 02:51 |
smoser | a.) we're using iso9660 | 02:51 |
smoser | b.) there are no symlinks or hardlinks | 02:51 |
smoser | the only threat is if the user adds a file named "../../../../../etc/nova/nova.conf" | 02:51 |
smoser | (or like that). which both padraig and i pointed out. | 02:51 |
smoser | easiest solution there is | 02:52 |
smoser | if "../" in filename: | 02:52 |
smoser | raise Exception | 02:52 |
smoser | but we have better things there too | 02:52 |
vishy | smoser: well there is also the issue of needing to write them as root | 02:52 |
vishy | smoser: but honestly if you aren't concerned I'm totally fine with that | 02:52 |
smoser | well, we're not writing them as root actually | 02:53 |
smoser | oh wait. we are | 02:53 |
smoser | but we dont have to | 02:53 |
smoser | i wrote a mail to the list | 02:53 |
vishy | don't they have to be permissions 440 by spec? | 02:53 |
smoser | we could use mtools | 02:53 |
smoser | oh, does the spec say that? they're on vfat. so there are no perms. | 02:53 |
smoser | they're all 777 ! | 02:53 |
smoser | gah | 02:53 |
vishy | smoser: so the cloud-init code would have to change perms on rsync | 02:54 |
smoser | never mind me. they're iso and they could have the perms. | 02:54 |
smoser | but we can master those in. | 02:54 |
vishy | ok that is fine | 02:54 |
vishy | but it should be under /version/files no? | 02:54 |
vishy | * openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files | 02:54 |
smoser | yeah, if you're going to put them in the MD service also | 02:55 |
smoser | and i guess if you're going to do that, then i'm not really opposed to it. | 02:55 |
smoser | i just think its really ugly. | 02:55 |
vishy | ok cool | 02:55 |
vishy | smoser: Yeah it is ugly. Personalities are a huge misfeature | 02:55 |
vishy | mikal: ok looks like we have come to consensus | 02:56 |
smoser | then, the only comment i have is if we're going to put a json layout for the files... | 02:56 |
smoser | can we just do one that cloud-init would already be able to use | 02:56 |
smoser | the one that harlowja added recently. | 02:56 |
smoser | (he commented in that Merge proposea) | 02:56 |
mikal | Oh, I wasn't paying attention | 02:57 |
* mikal reads | 02:57 | |
harlowja | *reads | 02:57 |
harlowja | :-p | 02:57 |
smoser | but then i guess my theory of equality between config drive and MD | 02:58 |
smoser | implies that we should then add /openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files at the same time. | 02:58 |
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smoser | so maybe we just ditch the files for now | 02:58 |
smoser | let this in | 02:58 |
smoser | and then do the /openstack entry in the MD | 02:58 |
smoser | (and appropriately add to config drive) | 02:58 |
smoser | vishy, does that sound reasonable? | 02:59 |
mikal | Ok, so having read that... | 02:59 |
vishy | smoser: wait… I thought you were arguing for no json? | 03:00 |
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smoser | oh, i said i really dont care. | 03:00 |
mikal | I'm not sure I understand the discussion | 03:00 |
mikal | Is there a written spec for the openstack metadata somewhere? | 03:00 |
smoser | but if we were gonna do json then do it like cloud-init could easily consume. | 03:00 |
mikal | Or is it vapour at this point? | 03:00 |
harlowja | i think its being made right now? :-p | 03:01 |
vishy | smoser: ok decision 1 is that it is under openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files | 03:01 |
vishy | in both places | 03:01 |
smoser | vapor | 03:01 |
smoser | i like that. | 03:01 |
mikal | vishy: and just use today's date? | 03:01 |
smoser | mikal, well i'm suggestiong you can punt on that for this review. | 03:01 |
vishy | mikal: sure | 03:02 |
vishy | and two reviews is fine by me but we only have until tuesday so punting doesn't give us very long | 03:02 |
mikal | Ok, and the files in that directory... JSON or just a tree of files? | 03:02 |
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vishy | so i thought we had decided to just write them as files, but then smoser came back and said json is fine | 03:02 |
mikal | JSON == base64 for the blob data I expect | 03:02 |
mikal | Heh | 03:03 |
mikal | vishy: You're the decider | 03:03 |
smoser | i'm fine either way, really. | 03:03 |
smoser | all in one big json thing base64 encoded is large | 03:03 |
smoser | but if not, then you have to have some way of indicating that /files/* are binary | 03:03 |
smoser | and you have to provide some way to walk that tree | 03:03 |
smoser | (in the web service) | 03:03 |
vishy | smoser: yeah that is the issue, the web service sounds a little complicated | 03:04 |
smoser | so json simplifies that part, but a potentially really big GET | 03:04 |
mikal | How about a json list of dicts, with the data base64'd? | 03:04 |
vishy | smoser: what is the format of harlowja's json? | 03:04 |
vishy | mikal, smoser: lets just use that? | 03:05 |
smoser | harlwo had a link in the review | 03:05 |
smoser | let me find. | 03:05 |
smoser | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/revision/598 | 03:06 |
harlowja | its slightly different i think, in that the userdata yaml has the data, no layout at all really, so think of it as an array in yaml that a cloud-init module will lookup and start writing the array locations out | 03:06 |
smoser | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/revision/598/doc/examples/cloud-config-write-files.txt | 03:06 |
mikal | I don't love yaml for a web service... | 03:06 |
harlowja | its the main format cloudinit expects for userdata | 03:07 |
vishy | so I'm all for that format | 03:07 |
smoser | dont put yaml in openstack | 03:07 |
smoser | yaml is a superset of json | 03:07 |
smoser | you have a list of dicts | 03:08 |
vishy | smoser: so we can write the same data as json list of dicts and it should work, yes? | 03:08 |
smoser | make sense? | 03:08 |
harlowja | ya, that is fine, although it would have to endup in the userdata file (on the config drive) so its going to be a big download, lol | 03:08 |
smoser | we might have to figure out exactly how to use it, but yeah. | 03:08 |
smoser | harlowja, well, no it wont be in user-data file on config drive | 03:09 |
smoser | it will be in | 03:09 |
smoser | (for inejcted fiels) | 03:09 |
smoser | it will be in /openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files.json | 03:09 |
smoser | and we can just read that (if present) as part of config drive's user-data and merge it in there. | 03:09 |
smoser | i think. | 03:09 |
mikal | Which means if we change the format we get to repeat the data... | 03:09 |
smoser | have to play, but something like that. | 03:09 |
smoser | weee! | 03:10 |
mikal | How about we put the actual files as something like: | 03:10 |
mikal | openstack/files/ID | 03:10 |
mikal | and then | 03:10 |
harlowja | smoser ya, that would work, just less new special datasources in cloudinit would be nice :-p | 03:10 |
mikal | openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files.json gives an ID to read for the data? | 03:10 |
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mikal | And openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files.json is a json list of dicts | 03:10 |
mikal | That way if we change the json format, we don't have to include the actual files twice | 03:11 |
smoser | but how does that save you from repeating in YYYY+1-MM-DD/files.json ? | 03:11 |
smoser | why ? | 03:11 |
mikal | It saves us repeating the file contents | 03:11 |
smoser | how? | 03:11 |
mikal | Which is the big bit | 03:11 |
vishy | mikal: converted http://paste.openstack.org/show/20122/ | 03:11 |
mikal | openstack/YYYY-MM-DD/files.json = [{'path': '/this/is/a/path', 'id': '123'}, ...] | 03:12 |
smoser | and where do i get 'id' from ? | 03:12 |
smoser | or, what does that mean? | 03:12 |
mikal | vishy: so yeah, like that, except the content is an id number which is a file in a directory | 03:12 |
smoser | vishy, i'd cut the "write_files" | 03:13 |
mikal | smoser: I feel I'm not explaining this well | 03:13 |
smoser | we can assume files.json means "write_files" | 03:13 |
vishy | smoser: sure, i just did a straight translation from the example | 03:13 |
mikal | Let me take a sec and write a quick page about it so it makes sense | 03:13 |
smoser | ok. | 03:13 |
vishy | mikal: i think that it makes more sense but it would require a change to the cloud-init stuff | 03:13 |
vishy | smoser: is that ok with you? adding the ability to specify a path in addition to inline binary for the file data | 03:14 |
smoser | this will make things trickier. | 03:15 |
smoser | due to how things are done in cloud-init. | 03:15 |
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smoser | and i assume the path-to-content would be relative to the current file, and in the ocnfig drive case something like: | 03:15 |
smoser | ../../files/foo | 03:15 |
mikal | Please hold | 03:15 |
smoser | :) | 03:15 |
harlowja | horses holding | 03:16 |
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mikal | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1027BBRiMGVom0Vpc_Zjcjg_JDaqt0eqviZmsdiyfGPk/edit | 03:18 |
mikal | Google docs cause it was quick | 03:18 |
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smoser | it wiont be trivial for cloud-init, but i think its not terrible. | 03:21 |
mikal | Well, you don't have to decode the files at all | 03:21 |
mikal | You just read the json file, and for each file copy the specified id to the right path | 03:22 |
smoser | but then i guess is there a reason it should be in 'files.json' | 03:22 |
smoser | and not just 'metadata.json' ? | 03:22 |
smoser | under 'files' | 03:22 |
mikal | And include all the metadata that ec2 has? | 03:22 |
smoser | well, we have to have our own. | 03:22 |
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mikal | I vote we treat that as a version bump, and deal with it in grizzly | 03:22 |
smoser | i mentioned some of the things we want there. | 03:22 |
mikal | And folsom users parse ec2 for the majority of the data | 03:22 |
smoser | http://etherpad.openstack.org/FolsomNovaConfigDriveImprovements-Plan | 03:23 |
smoser | line 62 there. | 03:23 |
smoser | i'd say we start with those things | 03:23 |
smoser | simply copying all of ec2 is silly | 03:23 |
smoser | as we have that. and some of those things say "FIXME" | 03:23 |
mikal | smoser: dude -- we only have until Tuesday US time | 03:24 |
mikal | smoser: this review is already skating on the edge of not making it in at all | 03:24 |
zhiteng | vishy, around? i have some questions about availability zone for nova/cinder. | 03:25 |
smoser | well, mikal lets get it in then. | 03:25 |
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smoser | mikal, alright. | 03:26 |
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smoser | well you get in what you can as soon as you can. | 03:26 |
mikal | smoser: so yeah, let's extend it in a version bump | 03:26 |
mikal | Which we can try and sneak in during bug fixing season, as it will be a lot smaller | 03:26 |
smoser | we dont have to version bump | 03:26 |
mikal | Sure, but outside this review | 03:27 |
smoser | right. | 03:27 |
mikal | Ok | 03:27 |
mikal | Sounds like an agreed plan | 03:27 |
mikal | vishy: do you hate it? | 03:27 |
smoser | is tuesday FF ? | 03:27 |
smoser | feature freeze ? | 03:27 |
mikal | smoser: yep | 03:27 |
harlowja_ | jeez, time flies, lol | 03:27 |
smoser | k. | 03:28 |
vishy | mikal: i like it | 03:29 |
vishy | zhiteng: what is up? | 03:29 |
mikal | vishy: ok, I'll tweak it now and then make you review it | 03:31 |
zhiteng | vishy, i'm adding az feature to cinder, but since cinder & nova are now totally separated, 'euca-describe-az' only show AZ in nova services. | 03:31 |
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vishy | zhiteng: yes that is a problem which I mentioned to jgriffith before | 03:32 |
vishy | zhiteng: i think we have to assume that the operator sets up the same az's in both for now | 03:32 |
zhiteng | vishy, do you have any idea in mind to work around or fix this? | 03:32 |
vishy | zhiteng: my first thought as a plan is to create a scheduler api for listing az's | 03:33 |
vishy | and expose it as an extension | 03:33 |
vishy | then the ec2 code can query both nova and cinder and merge the list | 03:33 |
zhiteng | and that'll be land post-folsom? | 03:34 |
vishy | zhiteng: although I think in general it would be very confusing for users if they don't match | 03:34 |
vishy | zhiteng: correct, right now you have to make sure the lists match | 03:34 |
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zhiteng | AWS has a limit only volume/instance in the same AZ will work together. do we have/want to have similar limitation? | 03:36 |
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smoser | good night all. | 03:39 |
zhiteng | vishy, have to run for now. talk 2 u later. | 03:41 |
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vishy | smoser: gnight! | 03:42 |
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rohitk | Hi folks, where can we see the list of core reviewer names for a particular project? | 04:58 |
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clarkb | rohitk: on launchpad there should be a nove-core group and so on | 05:05 |
rohitk | clarkb:checking | 05:05 |
rohitk | clarkb: got it, thanks | 05:07 |
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aswadrangnekar | I am trying to install openstack using devstack master branch and i am coming across error 'PasteAppNotFound: Could not load paste app 'ec2' from /etc/nova/api-paste.ini' any workaround for this ? stracktrace> http://paste.openstack.org/show/20126/ | 05:16 |
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burnbrighter | Hi all - is there good documentation for devstack, br100 and how the networking gets set up in a multinode env? I am gnashing my teeth over trying to get an ssh session set up to my VM. | 05:43 |
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uvg | Hi, I have submitted HTTP POST notifier for review. please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11016/. thanks | 09:02 |
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kyriakos | uvg, are you not supporting HTTPS connections by design ? | 09:05 |
kyriakos | or is it something you'd consider an enhancement for later? | 09:06 |
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alex88 | hi guys, why by default instances that run with qcow2 doesn't use cache=writethrough? also i've seen that kvm processes uses if=none in the disk section, shouldn't it be virtio for better performances? | 10:30 |
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nati_uen_ | garyk: Hi | 10:41 |
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garyk | nati_uen_: hi, how are you? | 10:42 |
garyk | i have logged in. | 10:42 |
nati_ueno | Fine :) | 10:42 |
nati_ueno | Thank you for taking time | 10:42 |
garyk | ok, no problem. hope you did not wait all this time for me... | 10:43 |
nati_ueno | garyk: not at all :) | 10:43 |
garyk | on my setup i get quantum.plugins.linuxbridge.common.exceptions.UnableToChangeVlanRange: Current VLAN ID range 1 to 4094 cannot be changed. Please check plugin conf file. | 10:46 |
garyk | nati_ueno: i was also disconnect from ssh session | 10:46 |
nati_ueno | It should be same as OVS one | 10:48 |
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nati_ueno | New version of devstack for metaplugin also setups | 10:48 |
nati_ueno | vlan ID range | 10:48 |
garyk | ok | 10:49 |
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alex88 | someone knows why? i see very bad performances using no virtio and qcow2 images | 11:18 |
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soren | alex88: It's just a guess, but I think it's because you are using no virtio and qcow2 images. | 12:01 |
soren | Oh, he buggered off. | 12:02 |
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soren | meh | 12:02 |
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chmouel | dtroyer: are you getting those keyring question with devstack and nova list ? | 12:54 |
chmouel | dtroyer: http://pastie.org/pastes/4449542/text?key=cgzuys63triwtwtspksyg | 12:54 |
chmouel | dtroyer: was wondering if we should use no_cache in there | 12:54 |
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andrea_ | hi...the API extensions host-update is supposed to have actions for enabling/disabling services, is that correct? | 13:17 |
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smoser | anyone else think this is a regression? | 13:20 |
smoser | i think instances that are being run from my devstack get user-data of "" rather than None | 13:21 |
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smoser | i just opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1035317 | 13:40 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1035317 in nova "all instances have user data" [Undecided,New] | 13:40 |
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smoser | mikal, ^ and maybe zul could poke at that? | 13:49 |
smoser | as it is right now, its impossible to determine the difference between "user-data not given" and "user-data is empty string" | 13:49 |
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jgriffith | zul: ping | 15:15 |
zul | jgriffith: whats up | 15:15 |
jgriffith | zul: So what's quantel? | 15:15 |
zul | jgriffith: code name for 12.10 | 15:15 |
jgriffith | zul: Oh crap! | 15:15 |
jgriffith | zul: LOL | 15:15 |
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jgriffith | zul: I knew that, just didn't make the connection | 15:16 |
zul | jgriffith: riiiiiight :) | 15:16 |
jgriffith | zul: :) | 15:16 |
zul | jgriffith: also there is a Authors file missing in the git tree | 15:16 |
jgriffith | zul: really? | 15:16 |
zul | jgriffith: looks like it | 15:18 |
zul | jgriffith: definently missing | 15:18 |
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jgriffith | zul: Oh.. are you looking for mailmap? | 15:20 |
zul | jgriffith, no the actual authors file referred to in the manifest.inf | 15:21 |
jgriffith | zul: Authors files were removed from the tree | 15:21 |
zul | jgriffith: ah ok ill remove it fromth manifest.inf then | 15:22 |
jgriffith | zul: Not sure you need to/should | 15:22 |
jgriffith | zul: If I recall it's auto generated later in the build | 15:22 |
zul | jgriffith: its a debian thing that it reads the manifest.inf and complains about missing files | 15:22 |
jgriffith | zul: I don't remember all the details around how this was setup | 15:22 |
jgriffith | zul: ahh.... | 15:23 |
jgriffith | zul: How's it dealing with it on Nova? | 15:23 |
zul | jgriffith, i think setuptools-git is managing it, mtaylor would know better | 15:23 |
jgriffith | zul: Best to check with him, like I said I'm not entirely clear on how all of this was setup to work | 15:24 |
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mtaylor | morning | 15:26 |
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mtaylor | zul: Authors is auto-generated | 15:27 |
mtaylor | what's manifest.inf? | 15:27 |
mtaylor | there should be an Authors file in the tarball | 15:27 |
alexpilotti | vishy: Hi, I'm going to commit in the next days the nova-compute Hyper-V support for review | 15:27 |
zul | mtaylor: er...manifest.in | 15:27 |
mtaylor | zul: ah, well, oh | 15:27 |
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mtaylor | zul: I think the actual problem is that MANIFEST.in might be listing Authors instead of AUTHORS | 15:28 |
mtaylor | zul: nova? | 15:28 |
alexpilotti | vishy: I signed the CLA some time ago, but I saw only now that I had to join the OpenStack Contributors | 15:28 |
zul | mtaylor: cinder | 15:28 |
mtaylor | zul: k. me lookie | 15:28 |
alexpilotti | vishy: which is saying: Your request to join OpenStack Contributors is awaiting approval. | 15:28 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: cinder has AUTHORS | 15:28 |
mtaylor | yeah. and that's what we generate | 15:29 |
mtaylor | so it should be in the MANIFEST.in file - what's the problem? | 15:29 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: It seems zul is seeing deb packaging issues... | 15:30 |
zul | jgriffith/mtaylor: doesnt seem to be in the tarball | 15:31 |
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mtaylor | zul: well that's annoying | 15:34 |
mtaylor | jgriffith: I need to make you a setuptools-git patch... | 15:35 |
mtaylor | zul: tar tvfz dist/cinder-2012.2.tar.gz | grep AUTHORS | 15:35 |
mtaylor | -rw-rw-r-- mordred/mordred 825 2012-08-10 11:35 cinder-2012.2/AUTHORS | 15:35 |
mtaylor | zul: what tarball are you working from? | 15:36 |
zul | mtaylor: snapshot | 15:36 |
mtaylor | zul: from tarballs.o.o ? | 15:36 |
zul | mtaylor; yep | 15:36 |
mtaylor | zul: hrm. that's vexing | 15:36 |
mtaylor | zul: it very much should be there | 15:37 |
zul | mtaylor: oh wait its there | 15:37 |
zul | now im slightly confused | 15:38 |
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zul | mtaylor: its 'Authors' in the manifest.in | 15:41 |
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markmc | mtaylor, what should I do here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11136/ | 15:47 |
mtaylor | zul: ah - MANIFEST.in has both | 15:47 |
mtaylor | zul: Authors should be removed | 15:48 |
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markmc | mtaylor, you removed write_vcsversion() ? | 15:48 |
mtaylor | jgriffith: ^^ | 15:48 |
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mtaylor | markmc: yes. there is a version.py module now | 15:48 |
mtaylor | markmc: you want me to make a glance patch that updates usage to use it? | 15:49 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: reading history | 15:49 |
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markmc | mtaylor, that would be spiffing! :) | 15:49 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: doh! | 15:49 |
mtaylor | jgriffith: if you want, what we should really do is a cinder setuptools-git patch | 15:50 |
mtaylor | jgriffith: which would actually remove the need for almost all of that MANIFEST.in file | 15:51 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: That would be ideal | 15:51 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: But in the meantime, zul can you just graft this on to your MANIFEST cleanup patch? | 15:52 |
zul | jgriffith: yep | 15:52 |
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jgriffith | mtaylor: is the setuptools path something you manage typically? | 15:53 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: patch | 15:53 |
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mtaylor | jgriffith: yeah - I'll get you one | 15:54 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: Thank you sir | 15:54 |
jgriffith | zul: Thank you for catching this and pointing it out | 15:54 |
zul | jgriffith, no worries | 15:55 |
mtaylor | jgriffith, zul: https://review.openstack.org/11153 | 15:56 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: NICE! | 15:56 |
zul | mtaylor jgriffith: ok gimme a couple of minutes | 15:57 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: for some reason I thought it involved something outside of the cinder tree | 15:57 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: Otherwise I wouldn't have asked you for it :) | 15:57 |
mtaylor | jgriffith: sometimes it's easier for me to just make the patch than to explain the patch :) | 15:57 |
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jgriffith | zul: Shall we push this first, then you can make any changes you need after it lands? | 15:58 |
jgriffith | mtaylor: very true | 15:58 |
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zul | jgriffith: lemme do the setup-tools and then we can abandon the first manifest stuff | 15:58 |
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jgriffith | zul: mtaylor already has it out there... | 15:59 |
zul | jgriffith: if mtaylor will do it for cinder then ill let him :) | 15:59 |
jgriffith | zul: https://review.openstack.org/11153 | 15:59 |
jgriffith | zul: he did it while we were talking about it. I think it's a jedi mind trick kinda thing | 16:00 |
jgriffith | :) | 16:00 |
zul | jgriffith: effer :) | 16:00 |
jgriffith | zul: LOL... I'll push that through and then you can add the other changes from your patch that are still needed. | 16:00 |
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zul | jgriffith: k cool | 16:00 |
jgriffith | zul: I'll just ask that you give it a +1 for me :) | 16:01 |
zul | jgriffith: to the setuptools-git patch? | 16:01 |
jgriffith | zul: yes-sir | 16:01 |
zul | done | 16:01 |
jgriffith | zul: Thanks! | 16:01 |
jgriffith | zul: Don't want to totally ignore process ya know | 16:01 |
zul | jgriffith, cant have that :) | 16:02 |
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notmyname | dprince: ping. gotta question about the swift patch you submitted | 16:54 |
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bcwaldon | jeblair: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/7326/consoleFull | 17:16 |
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jeblair | bcwaldon: clouds suck. (looking) | 17:18 |
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bcwaldon | jeblair: I rekicked that one job | 17:18 |
bcwaldon | jeblair: just wanted you to see the error | 17:18 |
jeblair | bcwaldon: okay, other precise-rackspace nodes are succeeding; it may have been unique to that host | 17:18 |
jeblair | bcwaldon: (as opposed to something flawed with the image on rackspace) | 17:19 |
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jeblair | bcwaldon: thanks. i don't think i've seen that before. we pretty much get to see _everything_ that can go wrong in a cloud. | 17:19 |
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dprince | notmyname: I'm back. Whats up? | 17:30 |
notmyname | dprince: just curious as to why you removed the reseller prefix check | 17:31 |
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dprince | notmyname: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1020722 | 17:31 |
notmyname | dprince: seems like it would make it worse for environments with multiple auth systems | 17:31 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1020722 in swift "swift_auth middleware disallows access to public Swift URLs" [High,In progress] | 17:31 |
notmyname | ah | 17:32 |
dprince | notmyname: Perhaps I was a little heavy handed but I wasn't sure we actually needed it. | 17:32 |
notmyname | is the reseller check the place to do that? | 17:32 |
dprince | notmyname: Well... the reseller check prevents me from actually being able to use public Swift URL's. So I didn't think I had a choice. | 17:33 |
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dprince | notmyname: Honestly. The reseller stuff seemed a bit out of place in this middleware. I was actually thinking 'what if' we created a separate middleware to enforce that by itself. But then looking at it there is some coupling. | 17:34 |
notmyname | dprince: I'm looking in tempauth for how it handles the ACLs | 17:35 |
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notmyname | dprince: IMO, the reseller prefix should probably be handled in the __call__. the authorize() should be after the reseller determination | 17:38 |
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dprince | notmyname: Okay. Let me have another look then. | 17:39 |
notmyname | dprince: also, I think it's reasonable that setting ACLs for an account with one auth system may not be guaranteed to work when accessing it from another auth system (ideally, it would, but I don't think that should be a requirement) | 17:39 |
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dprince | notmyname: My case here is not even using multiple auth systems though. I'm just using Swift w/ keystone. | 17:40 |
notmyname | ya | 17:40 |
notmyname | dprince: is that swift+keystone a prod deployment? | 17:40 |
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dprince | notmyname: No. But I can give you access to a deployment where this happens if that is what your asking. | 17:41 |
dprince | :) | 17:41 |
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notmyname | no, I was asking because I havent' yet heard of a production swift deployment that is using keystone. I was hoping you'd have the first I'd heard of :-) | 17:42 |
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dprince | notmyname: Oh. I see. Sorry. I won't claim that title today. | 17:42 |
notmyname | dprince: do you want to mark the patch as WIP? | 17:43 |
dprince | notmyname: I mean.... I suppose I can/should since we are debating how this should go. | 17:44 |
notmyname | dprince: and thanks for working on this. I think it's a pretty important bug (or feature gap) to fix in the keystone middleware | 17:44 |
dprince | notmyname: Is your concern that someone else will send this? | 17:44 |
dprince | notmyname: Or just like to keep a clean house? | 17:45 |
notmyname | dprince: no, just that if you are going to update it, then it will let the other core devs know that they don't need to spend a lot of time on it yet | 17:45 |
dprince | notmyname: in any case. Its WIP now. | 17:45 |
notmyname | dprince: thanks :-) | 17:45 |
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smoser | zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1035317 | 17:48 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1035317 in nova "all instances have user data" [Undecided,New] | 17:48 |
zul | smoser: thanks | 17:48 |
zul | smoser: essex or folsom? | 17:51 |
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smoser | zul, i think i said both in th bug | 17:58 |
zul | k | 17:58 |
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harlowja | qq, is anyone using anvil besides the people at yahoo, lol, i was wondering if anyone here is using the swift part of it, or had any thoughts about it, its getting tougher to keep it in sync with devstack, so still wishing we could align somehow :-p | 18:01 |
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notmyname | harlowja: not that I know of. but I'm not familiar with anvil. what is it? | 18:04 |
markmcclain | arosen: patch coming | 18:04 |
harlowja | ha, its the super awesome devstack ++ (sorta) | 18:04 |
harlowja | http://anvil.readthedocs.org | 18:04 |
bcwaldon | jeblair: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/7330/consoleFull | 18:05 |
arosen | markmcclain: awesome thanks! | 18:05 |
harlowja | brb | 18:05 |
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jeblair | bcwaldon: looking | 18:08 |
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bcwaldon | jeblair: another random failure | 18:09 |
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jeblair | bcwaldon: i need to dig through logs to find out what happened to that node. :/ | 18:11 |
bcwaldon | jeblair: ok, not affecting me, just another failure to look at when you have time | 18:11 |
jeblair | bcwaldon: thanks for pointing me at it | 18:12 |
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bcwaldon | yep yep | 18:13 |
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Ryan_Lane | ayoung: crap. I guess I missed the boat on 2012.1.2 | 18:30 |
ayoung | Ryan_Lane, ? | 18:30 |
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Ryan_Lane | for those ldap changes | 18:30 |
ayoung | ah..yeah, | 18:30 |
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* ayoung thinks that naming scheme is weird....looks like January second | 18:31 | |
Ryan_Lane | heh | 18:31 |
Ryan_Lane | oh | 18:32 |
ayoung | Ryan_Lane, Keystone is moving slow these days. | 18:32 |
ayoung | getting changes in takes a bit of lead time. | 18:32 |
Ryan_Lane | for this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10365/4 there's no reason to push it upstream | 18:32 |
ayoung | and tenacity | 18:32 |
Ryan_Lane | let me verify that really quick | 18:32 |
Ryan_Lane | I lie. it does | 18:33 |
ayoung | Ryan_Lane, I know | 18:33 |
Ryan_Lane | heh | 18:33 |
ayoung | Ryan_Lane, it needs to go into Folsom first, and then we'll back port it. It needs a bug too | 18:33 |
Ryan_Lane | doing that right now | 18:33 |
ayoung | Get the leg work done and I will walk it through. The other one, too | 18:34 |
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sdague | can we get another nova core person to take a look at this review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10815/ - a bunch of others will drop into place once that lands | 18:43 |
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nikhil | why are there two different methods instance_metadata_update and instance_system_metadata_update in the db ? | 18:48 |
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bcwaldon | sdague: in it goes | 18:55 |
sdague | bcwaldon: cool, thanks | 18:55 |
vishy | nikhil: system_metadata is metadata owned by nova | 18:56 |
vishy | nikhil: instance_metadata is set by the user | 18:56 |
nikhil | vishy: thanks | 18:56 |
vishy | nikhil: both are just simple key / values and they work essentially the same way | 18:56 |
bcwaldon | jeblair: should https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11009/ have a comment from jenkins? | 18:56 |
bcwaldon | jeblair: since I just recheck'd it | 18:57 |
jeblair | bcwaldon: it only clears the value when running gate jobs | 18:57 |
jeblair | bcwaldon: clearing the value triggers sending an email, so it's a compromise between utility and spamminess. | 18:57 |
bcwaldon | ok | 18:58 |
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Ryan_Lane | ayoung: so, it indeed does not require pushing changes to folsom | 19:16 |
Ryan_Lane | ayoung: it's already fixed there | 19:16 |
Ryan_Lane | get_metadata pulls the roles, and authenticate returns them | 19:16 |
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sdague | vishy: I'm working on the keypairs disable, and it seems like key_name is actually fetched twice in the create (to different variables), and I'm not really clear how the first one might be used. | 19:19 |
Ryan_Lane | ayoung: so, I opened a bug, and added it to the restore message for one of the two changes | 19:19 |
sdague | so if you have a sec, it would be appreciated | 19:19 |
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philhsmith | Hello. I'm trying out quantum-server and quantum-openvswitch-agent from the ubuntu PPA (using a build from last week or so), and seeing lots of gettext "NameError: name '_' is not defined" errors on startup. Has anyone seen this, and if so, do they know if it's been fixed in the current PPA? I'm hoping to avoid trying it, having it not work, and then trying to back out to the version I have now. | 19:34 |
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nati_ueno | Hi | 19:38 |
nati_ueno | vishy: How can I add another commit as dependency in the gerrit? | 19:39 |
nati_ueno | vishy: I'm start working on http://etherpad.openstack.org/disable-server-extensions. I wanna use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10816/9 | 19:39 |
sdague | nati_ueno: I just did that, so I can help | 19:42 |
nati_ueno | sdague: Thanks! | 19:42 |
sdague | from your nova repo: git fetch https://review.openstack.org/openstack/nova refs/changes/16/10816/9 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD | 19:43 |
sdague | then: git checkout -b SOMEBRANCHNAME | 19:43 |
sdague | then, MOST IMPORTANTLY, when you want to push the review.. | 19:44 |
sdague | git review -R | 19:44 |
sdague | the -R is very important, otherwise you'll do what I did, and rebase vishy's patches by accident :) | 19:44 |
nati_ueno | sdague: OK I got it!! Thanks! | 19:44 |
nati_ueno | salgado: wow... it is dangeraus.. | 19:44 |
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nati_ueno | sdague: I updated gerri workflow wiki http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow#preview | 19:47 |
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sdague | nati_ueno: cool | 19:51 |
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arosen | Hi, I have two machines running devstack and i'm trying to cluster them. In nova-manage service list both machines are showing up but one of them has it's state set to XXX. If I look at the n-cpu log it says: Connected to AMQP server on 172.17.114.148:5672 and I don't seen any errors. Any ideas where I should look (n-api on the controller doesn't seem to be saying anything about this that I see at first look) | 20:22 |
arosen | n-sch sees the other machine and doesn't print out any errors either. | 20:22 |
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ayoung | Ryan_Lane, looking now | 20:31 |
ayoung | dolphm, can you bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10365/ | 20:34 |
dolphm | ayoung: i was just trying to figure out how it's already fixed in master .. ? | 20:34 |
ayoung | dolphm, I think the change just wasnt linked | 20:34 |
ayoung | 1 sec | 20:34 |
ayoung | dolphm, it might have been a10ec0e037ddcfa6be69426d245d9e8981256ec6 | 20:35 |
ayoung | dolphm, I also might have in cluded that in the PKI code, which greatly rewrote authenticate | 20:37 |
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ayoung | dolphm, yeah, I worked that fix into bcc0f6d6fc1f674bc4b340d041b28bc1cfddf66a~1 | 20:39 |
dolphm | ayoung: he also undoes part of his change in the dependent review ... without tests i'm having a hard time following what he's attempting to change | 20:40 |
bhuvan | dhellmann: ping? can you please review my suggestion in 9497? | 20:41 |
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ayoung | Ryan_Lane, ^^ | 20:42 |
ayoung | dolphm, I don't understand your last statement. What do you mean by dependent review? | 20:43 |
dolphm | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10441 depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10365 | 20:43 |
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ayoung | dolphm, the second review changes the format returned by get metadata into a dict | 20:45 |
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ayoung | so the logic moves into the called function. It is not undone... Ryan_Lane confirm? | 20:46 |
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dolphm | ayoung: well, as a result of the second change, metadata_ref = self.get_metadata(user_id, tenant_id) instead of the roles =; if roles; metadata_ref = roles; | 20:48 |
ayoung | dolphm, yeah, roles are metadata...I'd like to clean that up in the future...mess we inherited | 20:49 |
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dolphm | ayoung: Ryan_Lane: if both these changes were in one review (and i'm not sure why they're not) it'd be easier to see the intention is | 20:50 |
ayoung | dolphm, I'll let Ryan_Lane chime in.... | 20:50 |
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dolphm | ayoung: aren't there backend tests for ldap? do they not look at roles? | 20:54 |
ayoung | there are backend tests that run for all the backedns, but this is, I think not quite covered by the tests. | 20:54 |
Ryan_Lane | sorry, was at lunch | 20:55 |
Ryan_Lane | let me read backscroll | 20:55 |
Ryan_Lane | yeah, sorry, they should likely be in one change | 20:56 |
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Ryan_Lane | and yes, this is likely not covered properly by the tests (otherwise it would have been found before) | 20:56 |
Ryan_Lane | maybe the tests in master actually check for this now? | 20:56 |
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dolphm | Ryan_Lane: if there's test coverage for it in folsom, you can backport the test coverage with your fix | 21:01 |
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vanchester | aha, it's again keystone talks! | 21:02 |
vanchester | i like it | 21:02 |
dolphm | Ryan_Lane: we also need traceability on every change, **especially** to the stable branches | 21:02 |
Ryan_Lane | traceability? | 21:02 |
Ryan_Lane | seems authenticate is never called in the ldap backend tests | 21:02 |
Ryan_Lane | in fact, there's almost no ldap backend tests | 21:03 |
dolphm | Ryan_Lane: traceability from the commit to a documented issue tracked in launchpad | 21:03 |
Ryan_Lane | ah, yeah | 21:03 |
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Ryan_Lane | I put a bug in for ti | 21:04 |
Ryan_Lane | *it | 21:04 |
dolphm | Ryan_Lane: i assigned it to you | 21:04 |
Ryan_Lane | and mentioned it in the restore message | 21:04 |
dolphm | Ryan_Lane: it needs to go in the commit message as well | 21:04 |
Ryan_Lane | I'm not sure I can take the time to write the tests for this. | 21:04 |
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Ryan_Lane | dolphm: ok. the changes are merged together and there's a lp bug attached | 21:11 |
Ryan_Lane | and I abandoned the other change | 21:12 |
Ryan_Lane | I'm in the middle of upgrading my infrastructure to essex, though (hence the fixes), so I doubt I'll be able to take the take to add the tests in | 21:13 |
Ryan_Lane | *take the time | 21:13 |
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smoser | vishy, harlowja, mikal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11184/ | 21:30 |
smoser | htats my stick in the ground 30 minutes after i needed to leave | 21:30 |
smoser | please taek a look | 21:30 |
harlowja | cool | 21:31 |
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harlowja | qq, i remember from the summit that there is/was going to be something like a openstack-foundry for tools/utils related to openstack, was that ever created?? | 21:46 |
mikal | smoser: ping? | 21:46 |
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jaypipes | harlowja: stackforge. talk to jeblair about it. | 21:58 |
harlowja | kk | 21:58 |
harlowja | thx | 21:58 |
harlowja | thats just a github repo place right, not anything more offical like other forges? | 21:58 |
clarkb | harlowja: stackforge projects get gerrit and jenkins too | 21:59 |
notmyname | harlowja: nothing official. there is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/associated_projects.html for swift, but not a community site yet that I know of | 21:59 |
harlowja | cool | 21:59 |
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harlowja | kk, all good to know, thx | 21:59 |
clarkb | heat is one example | 21:59 |
harlowja | right, i was just thinking about some developer like just having a neat tiny little script, where would he place that | 22:00 |
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harlowja | is that stackforge? | 22:01 |
clarkb | potentially. I am not sure what the acceptance criteria are, but if you want hosting and testing that would be one way to get it | 22:01 |
harlowja | ya, np, thx | 22:05 |
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smoser | mikal, heys. orry . i'm not here. | 22:16 |
smoser | i'll try to catch you sometime this weekend. | 22:16 |
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nati_uen_ | danwent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10749/ is make sence? | 23:16 |
danwent | nati_uen_: i'm confused why we don't just test for None | 23:18 |
danwent | rather than if data 1= "" and not data | 23:18 |
danwent | if data is None | 23:18 |
nati_uen_ | This is reason https://gist.github.com/9c0f56f785d35d9c63c1 | 23:19 |
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nati_ueno | /msg NickServ identify asdfasdf | 23:19 |
jeblair | nati_ueno: hope that's not an important password. :) | 23:20 |
nati_ueno | agaaa | 23:20 |
nati_ueno | danwent: Now I got your point | 23:20 |
nati_ueno | if data is None is enough | 23:20 |
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nati_ueno | danwent: I fix my patch. Thanks | 23:21 |
danwent | k, thanks | 23:21 |
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jeblair | that's the advantage of a dvorak keyboard -- "aoeuaoeu" is impervious to haxors. | 23:22 |
nati_ueno | jeblair: That's looks more strong password | 23:23 |
jeblair | hehe :) | 23:24 |
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jgriffith | vishy: ping | 23:41 |
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vishy | jgriffith: sup? | 23:42 |
jgriffith | vishy: On nirmals patch for multiple backends... | 23:42 |
jgriffith | vishy: The desire was to have more than one backend per volume-node | 23:42 |
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vishy | jgriffith: but why | 23:42 |
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vishy | it complicates the code so much | 23:42 |
vishy | when you could just run two managers | 23:43 |
jgriffith | vishy: Understand, but the idea was to be able to add new/different backends without having to reconfigure or add nodes | 23:43 |
jgriffith | vishy: I see your point as well.... | 23:43 |
jgriffith | vishy: I actually thought this could be done using volume_type | 23:44 |
jgriffith | vishy: Maybe the idea is over-rated | 23:45 |
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vishy | jgriffith it seems like it would be trivial to run another manager for the new backend | 23:49 |
vishy | multiple backends in the manager seems a little crazy to me | 23:49 |
jgriffith | vishy: Yeah, the only thing is that then you have to setup/add another node just for that back-end, in reality maybe not such a big deal | 23:50 |
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jgriffith | vishy: anyway... just thought I'd clarify some of the thoughts behind it before nirmal has a chance to respond | 23:51 |
jgriffith | vishy: He has some specific use cases he needed it for in RD anyway | 23:52 |
vishy | yeah, i think the use cases can be satisfied by types and multiple drivers personally | 23:52 |
vishy | * multiple managers | 23:52 |
jgriffith | vishy: I'm hearin ya | 23:53 |
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