Monday, 2012-07-02

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ttxchmouel: no, I'll probably automate it anyway :)07:05
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arosen1hi garyk07:29
garykarosen1: hi,07:32
garyki checked with the False and it works. my bad. thanks!07:32
arosen1No worries07:33
arosen1There's also an issue if you have the v1 database scheme and you try to run v2 (same with the otherway around).07:35
garykwe should be dropping v1 so i am not really sure how important these issues are.07:37
garykmy two cents is that we should try to get the v2 up and running and then drop the v1. i think that nearly all of the pieces of the puzzle are ready. we just need to glue them together07:38
arosen1Yea, I agree makes sense to me.07:39
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garykarosen1: syncing them can and may be a challenge. maybe the default for the v2 api should be false. this will ensure that devstack continues to work. what do you think?07:46
arosen1garyk:  devstack drops the table i believe, let me check07:49
arosen1garyk:  yea it does:             mysql -u$MYSQL_USER -p$MYSQL_PASSWORD -e "DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS $Q_DB_NAME;"07:51
arosen1s/drops the table/drops the database07:51
garykarosen1: yup, i know. what i was trying to say is that in order for us to move forward we need to do the following. get a backward compatible devstack version in. get ovs and linux bridge plugins in (which work with devstack) and get the nova changes in.07:55
garykarosen1: i think that the safest way of doing this will be if the v1 is the default version. once we have v2 up and running then we can drop v1.07:56
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arosen1garyk: sounds good.08:00
arosen1I'm out, ttyl!08:00
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hugokuohi all , does there any exist mechanism to sweep all .ts data in swift ?09:48
hugokuoHow long will a deleted object been clean up from storage DISK ?09:49
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ccorriganChmouel opened bug#1019832 about swiftclient not supporting multi-region,  (suggested using OS_REGION_NAME), but are there plans to have swift client support multiple sites within a region ?13:12
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chmouelccorrigan: this is for keystone i believe13:22
chmouelccorrigan: not for swift multi-region support which i believe there is a bp for that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/multi-region but nobody has started on this13:23
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chmouelccorrigan: assuming you are not satisfied by cont-to-cont replication13:23
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ccorrigan@Chmouel Thanks - I'll go take a peek at the bp13:27
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chmouelccorrigan: there is not much on it, I know there was a lot of discussions with HP about it sometime ago (at Diablo design summit last year)13:29
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andrewbogottdhellmann, thanks for the speedy review!13:40
hugokuohi all ,13:43
hugokuoI got a question about swift13:43
hugokuowhat if I use swift-bench to upload lots of objects and then delete those objects13:44
hugokuoagain and again13:44
hugokuoaround 300000 operations13:45
dhellmannandrewbogott, no problem!13:45
hugokuodoes there any bad impact if i nerver run container/object updater and container/replicator13:45
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hugokuoI found that if I did not run updater and replicator .... there will have more and more PUT failure and the performance reduced ...13:46
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fitzdslAnyone could points me towards documentation about requirements to write new hypervisor support (in my case I would like oVirt backend support)14:21
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russellbfitzdsl: i'm not sure an ovirt backend makes sense ... ovirt is just using kvm as the hypervisor, and kvm is supported already via the libvirt driver14:25
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russellbovirt is on a similar layer conceptually as openstack, so you'd be using one or the other, not one on top of the other14:26
fitzdslrussellb: yes but I do currently have an ovirt infrastructure and I want to keep a virtualization layer just for regular vm and not openstack managed instance14:26
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fitzdslrussellb: but I can't waste hw resources to have a virtualisation infrastructure and some swifts nodes14:27
fitzdslrussellb: so the only way that I see to do that is to make OpenStack instances running on my ovirt infrastructure14:27
fitzdslrussellb: does that make sense to you ?14:28
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erikzaadiCan anyone point me to documentation about nova volume, specifically about the get_volume_stats, and what it is suppose to return?14:37
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andrewbogottIs there a way for me to announce a cfg flag in advance of it being declared?  It feels funny to import a file just to catch the flag definition.  Something like a 'forward' declaration?15:16
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winston-ddtroyer, ping15:23
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dtroyerwinston-d: yo15:23
winston-di've just clone a new devstack and would like install cinder with it. but nova doesn't seem to work.15:24
winston-dnova complains about failure of import (no module named cinder)15:25
winston-ddo i have to use John's personal git as nova's repository?15:26
dtroyerwinston-d: not supposed to any more, but john would have to confirm…I'm trying it now15:27
winston-djgriffith, ping15:27
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mtaylorvishy: so, about that stable/diablo patch...15:33
mtaylorvishy: just wantedto let you know I'm still working on it - turns out we've fixed a crap-ton of build releated tihngs post diablo15:34
mtaylorvishy: I think I know all the things that need done though15:34
ttxameade: around ?15:42
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ttxheckj: one more +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8170/ needed to complete the last F2-targeted keystone blueprint15:44
heckjttx: approved and flowing now15:45
ttxheckj: awesome, you're done now. Now for the other projects...15:45
heckj:-)15:46
dolphm:D15:47
ttxvishy: a number of F2-targeetd stuff look very close to the finish line. Might be worth rounding up a few reviewers to push them in before the milestone-proposed cut in 38 hours15:47
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ttxjgriffith: looks like you should reference bp extract-nova-volumes rather than volume-decoupling in your Nova cinderclient proposed changes.15:49
ttxsleepsonzzz: ^15:51
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mtaylorttx: who should I but to land a cinderclient change?16:05
mtaylorttx: is that jgriffith ?16:05
ttxmtaylor: yes16:06
mtaylorttx: thanks16:06
mtaylorjgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8937/ please16:06
mtaylorjgriffith: you guys are the last ones between me and bliss16:06
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mnaserany swift-ers?  can a swift proxy handle multiple rings?16:10
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winston-ddtroyer, do you have any luck with devstack and cinder?17:06
dtroyerwinston-d: no.  I'm not sure if it is a missing module in nova or cinder though...17:08
winston-ddtroyer, i've no idea neither.17:10
winston-djgriffith, around?17:10
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sdaguerussellb: so you think we can get one of the openstack-common updates merged today? :) As I think we've got at least 3 independent attempts happening in gerrit right now (at least for parts of it)17:18
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russellbheh17:19
russellbdprince: coule use some easy reviews on this series: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9226/17:20
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dprincerussellb: sure. Presumably you needed something new from openstack-common?17:24
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russellbdprince: that first one fixes some rpc breakage17:24
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dprincerussellb: Also, Any idea how long it'll be before we automatically do this? Seems like an awful lot of review thrashing going on just to keep openstack-common in sync.17:24
russellband pulling that in was kind of a pin since just about everything was out of date17:25
russellbyes, it's a PITA17:25
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russellband no idea ... need to push on that ...17:25
russellbthe policy was markmc's baby, and i think he's out for a couple of weeks17:25
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dprinceOne reason I hate doing this manually is I feel obligated to actually look at openstack-common and make sure proper tests exist there, etc.17:29
russellbin theory the openstack-common reviewers did that :-/17:31
dprinceI also have mixed feelings about syncing openstack-common as a series.17:32
dprinceSeems like that could get us into trouble.17:32
russellbwhy? it's syncing independent pieces17:32
dprinceSeems reasonable that openstack-common would make a change within itself which modified 2 of the files.17:33
russellbwell in that case they should be synced together :)17:33
dprinceSure. That isn't always easy to catch unless the unit tests exist (which they don't in nova)17:34
russellbtrue17:35
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dprinceThese look Okay. And you've obviously taken the time to carefully split things up correctly. Just sayin. If we are syncing things.... it seems like we should manually use the script which we want to eventually automate right?17:37
dprinceLike this: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-common/blob/master/update.py#L2517:38
russellbthat's what i used17:39
russellbi just did git add/commit in a series17:39
dprinceSure. That is good. I suppose I like a series for development of new features, etc. Just not sure it makes as much sense for a sync operation. Thats all.17:41
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* mtaylor agrees with dprince - but also having just been working on updates to all the projects that started in openstack-common ... it definitely feels like things get out of date rather quickly17:47
dprincerussellb: btw. The cfg branch had an error running smoketests... so I'm re-running that one.17:48
sdaguerussellb: I guess that's a good question worth bringing up, should openstack common land it's unit tests as well as it's code?17:48
russellbi can't think of a reason why the unit tests shoul dbe run twice for the same code ...17:49
russellbnova unit tests take long enough already :)17:49
dprincerussellb: Well... If we sync it all at the same time I think leaving the unit tests behind makes sense for now.17:49
russellbideally there is a sync commit per commit to common17:50
dprincerussellb: If we are going to manually split the commits up (by hand - potentially injecting human error) I'd like unit tests to run well. twice I guess.17:50
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russellbi shouldn't of had to do that ... it was just becaquse it got so behind17:51
dprincerussellb: I guess my concern would be the commits to Nova don't always align 1-1 with the openstack common commits.17:51
russellbbut i get the point17:51
russellbit's clearly becoming a huge pain17:51
dprinceFTR. I think what you did was fine and reasonable. I like your commit messages. Just trying to keep this process sane I guess.17:52
bcwaldonjk0: is this one on your radar? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9024/217:54
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jk0bcwaldon: it is now. I somehow overlooked that one17:55
bcwaldonjk0: no prob, thanks17:55
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vishymtaylor: if it is going to take a while, maybe we should manually push in the security fix?17:56
mtaylorvishy: let me give one more stab at it today17:57
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mtaylorvishy: if I can't get it, then yeah17:58
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vishyrussellb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9227/17:59
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davidkranzAny one know how to get the latest nova client to stop asking for a keyring password everytime? I see you can do --no_cache but how is this supposed to work if you don't want to do that?18:00
clarkbdavidkranz: I think jeblar got around that by uninstalling python-keyring18:00
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davidkranzclarkb: Hmm. That did it. Is this the intended behavior?18:01
clarkbI don't think so. There was a discussion about it here a few days ago. Let me see if I can find it18:02
davidkranzclarkb: Thanks. I will follow up and file a bug if there isn't one already. But have to run out now for a bit.18:03
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clarkbdavidkranz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9125/ was the result of the previous discussion. If that still doesn't work for you then I think a bug may need to be filed18:07
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vishyany core members here?18:17
vishywe need some reviews on the cinder patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9197/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9198/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9199/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9200/18:17
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mtaylorvishy: and also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8937/ if people are looking at cinder18:18
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russellbvishy: you linked to the cfg update from common, something i should look at?18:47
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garykarosen, arosen1: ping18:56
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arosengaryk: hey19:19
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garykarosen: thanks for the fixes.19:38
arosengood catch btw19:39
arosenyou know how devstack does that mv on quantum/etc/ ?19:39
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ayoungheckj, Thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8932/  now merged19:45
heckjyeah!!!19:45
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dolphmayoung: heckj: yay19:50
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vishyrussellb: I made a comment about the commit message being wrong, but apparently i never hit send19:56
vishyrussellb: too late, though, it is in now.19:56
russellbah sorry19:57
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* russellb wonders what was wrong though ..20:01
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russellboh i see what i did20:05
russellbno idea how , heh20:05
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sdaguerussellb: ok, so what do I do about the fact that I used a patch series in gerrit, attempted to land the one openstack-common change in patch 1 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9173/ and the code change after depends on it?20:33
sdaguemore importantly patch 2 is fully approved - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9174/20:33
sdagueso I'm curious about the right way to tell it abandon, or mark the first patch redundant without having to ask for core approval on the second patch all over again (if that's possible)20:36
andrewbogottvishy, I needed to rebase my two giant common->nova patches again.  Do you mind having another look?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8728/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8729/20:36
vishyandrewbogott: sure, man we gotta get those in!20:37
andrewbogottI'll need a second vote as well... any suggestions for another reviewer?  (I think markmc was watching them but he seems to be off today.)20:39
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andrewbogottrussellb, you aren't a nova core by chance?20:41
arosenAnyone ever run into this issue where devstack just hangs on :  Got semaphore "iptables" for method "apply"... from (pid=4121) inner /opt/stack/nova/nova/utils.py:660 (\n) Attempting to grab file lock "iptables" for method "apply"... from (pid=4121) inner /opt/stack/nova/nova/utils.py:66420:45
arosenI did find /opt/stack/nova | grep pid | xargs rm but that didn't help .20:45
sdaguevishy if you could reapprove, that would be good https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9174/20:47
russellbandrewbogott: i am20:49
russellbarosen: i've seen that happen with a stale file lock20:49
andrewbogottrussellb:  Can you have a look at 8728 and 8729?  I predict a ~20 minute window before I have to resolve conflicts again :(20:49
russellbi know the feeling, will look20:50
andrewbogottthx20:50
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mtaylorwoot.20:53
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mtaylorvishy, bcwaldon: new client lib release mechanism fully operational. new process: tag revision, push tag to gerrit, release shows up on pypi20:54
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mtayloralthough we haven't talked about acls, so "tag revision and push tag to gerrit" might involve poking ttx20:54
bcwaldonmtaylor: ok, can you give me a dummies guide to tagging?20:54
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bcwaldonmtaylor: cant even get that right - tagging for dummies20:55
mtaylorbcwaldon: 'git tag -s 2.6.11'20:55
bcwaldoneasy enough20:55
mtaylorbcwaldon: will create a signed tag named 2.6.1120:55
bcwaldonmtaylor: and git push ...?20:55
mtaylorthen, git push gerrit --tags will push just tags to gerrit20:55
bcwaldonexcellent20:55
bcwaldonmtaylor: who can do that?20:55
mtaylorbcwaldon: gerrit will not allow you to do this without the right permissions of course20:55
mtaylorbcwaldon: right now only people on the openstack-release team20:56
mtaylorbut given how we're going client libs now, I think the argument can be made for a different set20:56
mtaylorof people20:56
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russellbandrewbogott: my only gripe is on the commit messages ...20:56
bcwaldonok20:56
mtaylorbcwaldon: what do you think? PTL? -core? (core seems a bit broad perhaps)20:56
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bcwaldonmtaylor: oh god not -core20:56
bcwaldonmtaylor: I could see PTL + openstack-release20:57
andrewbogottrussellb:  I'll revise, just a second.20:57
arosenrussellb:  yea I've seen that before but I deleted all the .pid files from /opt/stack/nova and even rebooted and same thing :(20:58
russellbarosen: lock files are somewhere else IIRC20:58
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russellbmaybe not20:58
andrewbogottrussellb:  OK, now the commit messages are still terse, but slightly less so :)20:59
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* andrewbogott ponders the irony of declaring a patch that alters 30+ files 'a no-op'21:00
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arosenrussellb: hrm nvm. I deleted nova and let it reclone itself and it worked. Thanks though21:03
russellbnp21:04
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BLZbubba_what does it take to debug the vnc console process (or even get-vnc-console novnc)?  i ran get-vnc-console in debug mode but it seems to be blocked waiting for a response to os-getVNCConsole21:05
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andrewbogottrussellb:  My code doesn't actually use custom exceptions, it uses get_context_from_function_and_args() which happens to live in exception.py.   Any thoughts about if/where I should move that function instead?21:20
andrewbogott"utils.py"?21:20
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russellbandrewbogott: looking21:24
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russellbandrewbogott: context?21:24
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russellbcontext.py i mean21:25
andrewbogottrussellb:  You're right, that's where it should go.21:27
russellbcool21:27
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sdaguesorry to bug, but if there are any core reviewers out there - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9174/, that was fully approved, but depended on a different sync of the openstack-common importutils, so had to be rebased21:28
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russellbsdague: done21:30
sdaguerussellb: thanks21:31
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mtaylorwhee! I love submitting patches which replace zipballs with actual release packages!21:57
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bcwaldonmtaylor: and I love telling you to do it again!21:59
bcwaldonmtaylor: the world is right again21:59
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mtaylorbcwaldon: dammit. did you -1 me?22:01
bcwaldonmtaylor: in essence22:03
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mtaylorbcwaldon: bah22:03
bcwaldonmtaylor: do you agree with my request?22:04
mtaylorbcwaldon: done22:04
mtaylorbcwaldon: sure!22:04
mtaylorbcwaldon: I never don't agree with your requests or not requests22:04
bcwaldonmtaylor: damn right22:04
bcwaldonmtaylor: hold on a sec22:05
bcwaldonmtaylor: I was just thinking setting the dep to something we know *shouldn't* break the api22:05
bcwaldonmtaylor: so for the keystoneclient case, v022:05
mtaylorbcwaldon: I don't know what you mean22:06
bcwaldonmtaylor: so if we depend on novaclient where v2.6.5 is latest, I would say v2 is good22:07
bcwaldonmtaylor: I would accept any of the v2 releases22:07
mtaylorbcwaldon: I mean, we're replacing a github master zipball ...22:07
mtaylorbcwaldon: ah, I get what you're saying22:07
mtaylorbcwaldon: I thought you were discussing a version called v0 :)22:08
bcwaldonmtaylor: well, since there is no v1 for keystoneclient, yes, v022:08
bcwaldonmtaylor: v0.1.122:08
mtaylorbcwaldon: so perhaps python-keystoneclient<1 ?22:08
bcwaldonmtaylor: then what do we do when we want to target v1?22:08
mtaylorbcwaldon: and then later we could do >0,<2 ?22:08
bcwaldonmtaylor: ok, can we not just say ==v0?22:08
bcwaldonmtaylor: or ==1 in the future case22:09
mtaylornope. that'll need to match _exactly_ a version called 022:09
bcwaldonmtaylor: ok22:09
bcwaldonmtaylor: double comparisons ftw22:09
mtayloryay!22:09
mtaylorbcwaldon: for v0 versions, I'd think that tying to a specific version is probably safer, since nobody really usually keeps API contracts in a 0.x release22:10
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mtaylorbcwaldon: but for things with an _actual_ major number, then yeah22:10
bcwaldonmtaylor: works for me22:10
mtaylorbcwaldon: what do you think of openstack-requires for that other repo?22:10
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mtaylorbcwaldon: and/or who do you think we should get to buy in on that name and approach before we push it up?22:11
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bcwaldonmtaylor: I'd send an email to the ML describing the motivation22:11
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bcwaldonmtaylor: get PTLs to ok it22:11
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bcwaldonmtaylor: are our versions all going to start at *.1.1?22:13
mtaylorkinda depends on what they may have had already happening in their lives22:13
mtaylorfor some it's 0.1, for some 0.1.0, some 0.1.122:13
bcwaldonmtaylor: is it just a coincidence that glanceclient and keystoneclient AND swiftclient are that way?22:13
mtayloryeah22:14
bcwaldonmtaylor: so will I ever see a v1.0.0?22:14
mtaylorafter this initial push up, I consider version choice and management the area of the PTL/project22:14
bcwaldonmtaylor: ok22:14
mtaylorbcwaldon: sure! whenever you cut one22:14
bcwaldonmtaylor: forgot that I can pick the version22:14
bcwaldonmtaylor: was thinking it was automagic22:14
bcwaldonmtaylor: we're all good22:14
BLZbubba_is novnc working at all in essex?  it seems kind of like an afterthought in the docs and nothing seems to want to process the os-getVNCConsole request22:15
mtaylorwell, it is - it's just automagic based on git tags22:15
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bcwaldonmtaylor: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/7033/consoleFull22:18
bcwaldonmtaylor: :(22:18
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mtaylorbcwaldon: AH. interesting...22:19
mtaylorbcwaldon: ok. lemme think about that...22:19
bcwaldonmtaylor: ok, I'm stepping away22:19
mtaylorbcwaldon: might have to do >0.1.0,<0.2 for the 0.x series22:19
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mtaylorbcwaldon: fix submitted22:24
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clarkbcan I get folks with cinder approval powers to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9243/ ?22:29
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clarkbits a super simple file rename to get the manpage for cinder-manage to build with python setup.py build_sphinx22:30
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mtaylorwhile cinder folks are looking at that, approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8937/ would be super friendly too22:48
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mtayloradam_g: ^^22:48
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mtayloranotherjesse_zz, vishy, clayg_ ^^ ? :)22:49
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mtaylorbcwaldon: we intermittently fail this: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/glance-coverage/511/console22:55
mtaylorbcwaldon: just so you know22:55
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bcwaldonmtaylor: that particualr test, or just an arbitrary functional test failure with similar output?23:57
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