Friday, 2012-06-01

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notmynamettx: if you couldn't tell, we didn't get QA finished today. new goal is tomorrow. still have some issues that will be backported to milestone-proposed00:55
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hugokuowhat's the nova base version of Ubuntu 12.04 ?05:47
hugokuoI check the nova.conf . The format seems the old format05:47
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garykdanwent: ping07:00
danwenthey07:00
danwentfeeling better?07:00
garykye thanks, how are you? started the cherry picking an had some problems07:00
danwentway behind on stuff, but otherwise ok :)07:01
danwentyeah, I saw the emails from gerrit, but haven't had a look yet07:01
garykok, i guess that it is not urgent - if you get a chance please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7966/ this can help me to push the rest of the task07:01
danwenthuh… that's a really big patch, seems to contain a lot of stuff not related to the subject of the patch.07:03
danwentdid you pull in more than you mean to?07:04
danwentmean -> meant07:04
garykthere were 2 problems: 1. tox.ini was too strict - jenkinsfailed tests 2. common directory was missing07:04
garykhence the additional files (do you want to do this at a normal hour?)07:05
garyki can do a push that will have the above mentioned information and then can start with the cherry picking?07:05
danwentgaryk: hehe, you attend meetings at a crazy hour, so I can chat with you about this at a crazy hour07:06
zykes-up late danwent ? ;)07:06
danwentok, so there is a base patch that you need to push to move the common stuff07:06
danwentzykes-: yup, trying to get some coding in :)07:06
zykes-:o07:06
zykes-what kind ?07:06
danwentgaryk: i assume you're also going to make the "quantum.common" changes for python-quantumclient?07:07
danwentI would have a specific commit that puts those changes in, rather than bundling them with another commit that fixes specific bugs.07:07
garykdanwent: this hs now been added to my to do list07:07
danwentzykes-:  quantum l3 stuff07:08
garykdanwent: ok - i'll fix this. i'll send you the link07:08
danwentgaryk: ok, great.  as I said, i'm playing catch-up, so it may be the weekend before I get to look at the stable stuff, given that there are some other things I need to work on that are blocking pretty urgent F-2 stuff.  Not enough hours in the day :)07:09
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garykdanwent: no problem. get a decent night sleep and come and run with us tomorrow morning - that will give you energy to clear the back log.07:10
danwentha, can't wait until I can run again. I injured myself running last weekend and haven't been able to run all week.  sucks07:11
garyk:( rest, ice and quantum can heal anything07:12
danwentwell put :)  Ok, well back to coding!07:12
ttxnotmyname: noted!07:12
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garykdanwent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8023/ and most importantly have a good weekend07:25
danwentgaryk: thanks  you too!07:27
garykdanwent: thanks07:27
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LinuxJediguys, our new PyPi mirror appears to have broken packages.  I have pushed up a branch to disable it but it will take 15 minutes to apply.  So all Jenkins tests that use pip in the next 15 minutes will fail10:16
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LinuxJediit is fixed and I'm retriggering all the jobs it caused to fail, will take a while and I'm going to be doing it on the move in a minute10:41
winston-dcan anyone take a look at this jenkins error and shed me some light on what i can do to fix it? https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/check-nova-python26/192/console10:44
LinuxJediwinston-d: our PyPi mirror is broken, I've disabled it and am in the process of re-triggering all jobs from the last 8 hours10:45
* LinuxJedi going afk to move location, will be back soon to finish the re-triggering10:48
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winston-dLinuxJedi, so it is not my fault?10:50
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markmcLinuxJedi, hey, would you be able to sort out a problem with pypi.openstack.org?10:51
markmcLinuxJedi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8028/10:51
* markmc assumes jeblair and mtaylor aren't around yet10:51
Davieymarkmc: 11:16 < LinuxJedi> guys, our new PyPi mirror appears to have broken packages.  I have pushed up a branch to disable it but it will take 15 minutes to apply.  So all Jenkins tests that use pip in the next 15 minutes  will fail10:52
markmcexcellent, thanks LinuxJedi and Daviey10:53
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Davieynp10:58
zykes-markmc: in Quantum do you know what part of the nova network code that deallocates floating ip's on vm termination?11:05
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winston-dmarkmc, mind help me review my patch here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5762/11:14
LinuxJediyep, most jobs I know about have been retriggered now and are passing11:18
LinuxJedibut there is still quite a queue11:18
LinuxJediDaviey: thanks for passing on the message11:18
* LinuxJedi is currently in the field for a kids party with the laptop on the cell phone retriggering stuff :)11:19
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mtaylormarkmc: ping13:45
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markmcmtaylor, hey13:45
mtaylormarkmc: so, I'm working on the pypi mirror problem (which, btw, has taught me everything about how awful of a design pypi is)13:45
markmcmtaylor, you saw my comment on mox 0.5.3 ?13:46
mtaylormarkmc: but as I was working through solutions, it brought me back to the "single depend list" decision from the ODS13:46
markmcmtaylor, what in tarnation?!?13:46
markmcmtaylor, ah, ok13:46
mtaylormarkmc: omg. EVERYTHING about how pypi and pip are designed is wrong13:47
mtaylormarkmc: the support for storing your files externally to pypi? you don't have to register releases with them at all... you can just give pypi a link to a web pages where you are going to make your release13:47
markmcmtaylor, no, but seriously - how did a mox-0.5.3.tar.gz containing mox-0.5.3/ directory but 0.5.2 sources, with 0.5.3 in setup.py ever come into being?13:47
mtaylormarkmc: because everyone in the python dev community ignores release management, rubs their hipster beards and says "nah, it'll be fine"13:48
* mtaylor has been having a lot of fun with pypi :)13:48
* markmc feels a headache coming on, wanders off for coffee13:49
mtaylormarkmc: ANYWAY ...13:49
mtaylormarkmc: I wanted to get your take on putting the master pip-requires lists in openstack.common and having update.py copy them over13:49
markmcmtaylor, yeah, I'm down with that - it does need per-project support though13:50
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markmc{common,nova,glance,keystone,quantum}/{test,pip}-requires13:51
markmcand have update.py munge e.g. {common,nova}/{test,pip}-requires13:51
markmcand copy the result into nova13:51
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mtaylormarkmc: really? why does it need per-project support?13:52
mtaylormarkmc: I thought the idea was to have one single consistent dep list13:52
markmcmtaylor, right13:52
markmcmtaylor, but you don't want to e.g. force keystone to depend on kombu13:52
markmcmtaylor, you just want to make sure that projects that do require kombu, require the same version13:53
mtaylorah - so the per-project is the definition of the per-project subset13:53
markmcmtaylor, so, common/pip-requires would contain e.g. sqlalchemy13:53
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markmcmtaylor, and nova/pip-requires would contain e.g. kombu13:53
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mtaylormarkmc: what if openstack.common had the single master list...13:54
mtaylormarkmc: and the copy process only copied in package/version specifics for packages already in the projects list?13:54
mtaylorproject's?13:54
markmcmtaylor, sorry, I mean e.g. openstack-common/deps/{common,nova,glance,keystone,quantum}/{test,pip}-requires13:54
mtaylormarkmc: yeah, I was following :)13:54
markmcmtaylor, cool13:54
mtaylormarkmc: the angle I'm working on this from is that I would like a way to build a comprehensive mirror but that only contains the things we need13:55
mtaylormarkmc: so if there was a master list, I could build the mirror based on that13:55
markmcmtaylor, yeah, that'd be cool13:55
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mtaylork. I'll see if I can work up a patch to openstack.common that would do that13:55
markmcmtaylor, by the way, could you freeze a snapshot of the mirror and use that for stable/essex13:56
mtayloralso, I think it helps with the chicken/egg problem ...13:56
markmcmtaylor, so stable/essex wouldn't get hit by newer versions of stuff13:56
markmcgreat13:56
* markmc looks forward to the patch13:56
mtaylorwell, it's important for stable/essex to be able to be installed13:56
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mtaylormarkmc: so I think I'm more of the opinion that stable/essex needs to more strongly pin in its requires files13:56
mtaylorotherwise if we're testing against a set of packages that are different from the wild via our mirror, we'll screw people13:57
markmcmtaylor, ok, make that part of the release process?13:57
markmcmtaylor, merge a pinning patch after milestone-proposed is branched?13:57
mtaylormarkmc: yeah, I think that's a good idea13:57
markmccool13:57
mtaylorthat way decisions to upgrade deps can be studied a bit more13:57
markmcyep13:58
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belliottmorning14:58
belliottcan i get a 2nd glance core review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7763/ please?14:58
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notmynameLinuxJedi: help, please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8010/15:05
LinuxJedinotmyname: ok, that is an odd failure...15:06
LinuxJedihuh!  Retrigger failed with the same thing15:07
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LinuxJedinotmyname: ok, the node it was trying to use was broken.  The node is offline and retriggered the job15:11
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notmynameLinuxJedi: thanks15:14
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heckjdolphm: I had to look at the pep8 output from the jenkins test to tell. :-)15:27
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dprinces1rp: around?15:50
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LinuxJediguys: new pep8 version was just released with new rules which is causing new failures if your tox.ini hasn't set a version :(15:53
LinuxJedihttp://pypi.python.org/pypi/pep8 <- 1.215:54
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ttxnotmyname: what's the news ?16:03
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bcwaldonLinuxJedi: and *that* is why I locked down nova and glance :)16:06
mtaylorbcwaldon: ++16:07
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claygjgriffith: hey I was peaking at the volume action extention, can I ask a couple of questions?16:49
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matiuclayg, you can always ask....16:54
jgriffithclayg: Yo!16:55
jgriffithclayg: I can try to help out, sleepsonthefloor is actually teh one to thank on those :)16:55
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winston-dsandywalsh_, hi, i've uploaded new changes to address your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5762/17:00
winston-dsandywalsh_, please help me review, thx!17:01
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vishycomstud: do you still see the hang due to memory transport bug?17:18
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notmynamettx: working on it17:19
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vishyshould stopping an instance detach any attached volumes? My thought is no17:21
comstudvishy: Yes, on various versions of kombu17:22
comstudalthough the test failed to something that times out17:22
comstudit's the fanout test w/ kombu17:22
comstuder failed/changed17:22
comstudand it shows a weird test failure message17:22
comstudbut anyway....17:22
comstudit appears that 1.1.3 version of kombu works17:22
comstud1.0.4 does not17:22
comstudand whatever the latest is also does not work17:23
comstud(2.x.8 -- can't remember if x is 0 or 1)17:23
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sdaguevishy: when you get a chance can you take a look at the latest rev of the virt driver loader - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7930/, would like to make sure that lands before I look at other refactoring in that area to make sure I don't end up in rebase hell :)17:31
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claygjgriffith: sorry, got called away...18:12
claygjgriffith: I'm confused about the difference between attach/detach and initialize/terminate connection (I thought attach and deatch stayed in compute)18:13
claygI also don't understand why initialize/terminate connection would be an ext. - it seems like it would be core to cinder functionality to support at least those two calls18:14
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vishytr3buchet, danwent: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/99776318:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 997763 in nova "floating ips are not disassociated from instances on deletion" [High,In progress]18:40
vishyapparently that is quantum only.  Looks like the quantum manager is not deallocating floating ips properly during deallocate_for_instance18:41
tr3buchetvishy: ah18:41
tr3buchetvishy: i'd say let this one go until we get further along with refactorings18:41
vishytr3buchet: it is affecting essex users though :(18:41
tr3buchetah18:42
tr3buchetvishy: so you want a backported change?18:42
vishymaybe piotr can try to tackle it.18:42
tr3buchetvishy: i can add it to my list if you want18:42
tr3buchetvishy: i'm happy to take care of it18:43
vishytr3buchet: if it seems easy go for it18:43
danwenthey all18:43
vishytr3buchet: I'm assuming there is just a simple missed call in deallocate_for_instance in the quantum manager18:43
danwenttr3buchet: would be great if you could look at it.  let me know if I can help.18:43
tr3buchetvishy: sure thing. don't want to step on any toes18:43
tr3buchetvishy: well it's a tricky situation really. since there are multiple ipams18:44
tr3buchetbut yeah18:44
danwentfloating ips are not supported with melange IPAM, so its really only for nova ipam18:44
tr3buchetexactly18:44
vishytr3buchet: i bet i know the problem18:47
tr3buchetvishy: oh good!18:48
vishytr3buchet: the floating_ip deallocation code uses db.fixed_ip_get_by_instance, does that work if you are using quantum?18:48
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tr3buchetvishy: if you are using nova ipam18:49
tr3buchetvishy: and if you aren't there are no floating ips18:50
vishytr3buchet: hmm so that should be working then :(18:50
vishytr3buchet: fyi quantum manager is missing a from nova import rpc18:50
tr3buchetvishy: it should be using the network api for any rpc calls it does18:50
vishythere are a bunch of references to rpc18:51
tr3buchethmm18:51
tr3buchetwell that seems broken18:51
vishybut no import, probably from russelb's patch18:51
vishytr3buchet: it might still be working because rpc is imported somewhere else18:51
tr3buchetit imports network api right?18:52
tr3buchetdon't have that branch in front of me18:52
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danwenttr3buchet, should I assign the bug to you, or find someone on my team to look at it (probably me..)?18:58
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rustlebeeoops, sorry if i removed it, that means no tests are touching that code, heh19:01
rustlebeei'll take a look ...19:01
danwenttr3buchet: i have it repo-ed in my setup.  will take a quick look at it and see if there's a simple fix.19:01
danwentrustlebee: i suspect it is getting imported from elsewhere, as the code is still functioning correctly (well, as of yesterday at least :))19:03
danwentrustlebee: i haven't looked in detail though, just guessing19:03
danwentrustlebee: the import is not the root cause of the bug that was reported, i think its just something vishy noticed19:03
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tr3buchetdanwent: whichever you want. i need to finish what i'm working on now.19:05
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tr3buchetdanwent: it's important enough that i'm putting off my review day until monday for it19:05
danwenttr3buchet: ok, i will take a quick look and keep you in the loop on what I learn.19:05
tr3buchetdanwent: perfect. i can throw a patch together pretty quick19:06
tr3buchetif you want19:06
tr3buchetif only i had a tool to use to keep track of what i need to do19:06
danwenttr3buchet: ah, if you know the exact issue already then, please do.19:06
tr3buchetdanwent: i only have a pretty good idea19:07
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tr3bucheteither way i'll start on it monday/tuesday19:07
danwentk19:07
tr3buchetvishy: ^19:07
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tr3buchetvishy: does that time frame work for you?19:07
vishytr3buchet: fine with me19:08
tr3buchetkk19:08
vishytr3buchet: issue isn't affecting me personally :)19:08
tr3buchetvishy: ha, me either :)19:08
vishytr3buchet: might be worth throwing your idea into the bug and maybe piotr can look at it19:08
rustlebeeum, the quantum manager has used rpc without importing it for over a month19:08
vishytr3buchet: he already tried to do one patch19:09
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rustlebeeanyway, i know that's not what you guys are looking at, i'll submit a patch to add it thought19:09
notmynamettx: still working on 1.5.0. realistically, we're probably looking at tuesday am so that we have time for the full end-to-end regression testing19:11
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danwentrustlebee: k, thanks :)19:14
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danwenttr3buchet, vishy : found where we're missing a call.  should be pretty easy for me to patch and test.  will give it a shot.19:14
tr3buchetdanwent: cool19:15
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tr3buchetrustlebee: i think it's getting the rpc from nova.network.manager import19:18
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rustlebeei didn't know imports wokred that way ... thought you had to import explicitly, or reference it through the other module that imported it19:20
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tr3buchetrustlebee: yeah, it doesn't seem like it would, i can't find anywhere else though :(19:21
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rustlebeeyeah, i'm not sure how it worked, but yay for working anyway19:22
tr3buchetyeah19:22
tr3buchetactually...19:22
tr3bucheti want to know19:22
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rustlebeetr3buchet: referencing rpc with a simple 'print rpc' at the bottom of that file and importing that file doesn't work19:24
jgriffithclayg: Sorry... you still there?19:24
rustlebeeso something else must be doing ... magic19:24
jgriffithclayg: attach/detach are compute operations, but we need to update that info in the cinder/volume db as well19:24
tr3buchetrustlebee: yeah, magic.19:24
rustlebee(or nobody was actually hitting those code paths?)19:24
jgriffithclayg: connection info will be in cinder now, rather than nova so need the extension to pass that back and forth as well19:25
tr3buchetrustlebee: i doubt that's true, because a lot of people don't use dhcp, for example19:25
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rustlebeelooks like you'd have to be using dhcp, quantum, and multiple hosts ..19:27
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vishyrustlebee: import time is different from calling time19:40
vishyrustlebee: rpc probably exists by the time the methods are called19:41
vishyrustlebee: it is also possible that whatever is importing that file is importing rpc first19:41
claygjgriffith: i'm back19:41
jgriffithclayg: sorry, I skipped out too, posted my answers... make sense?19:42
jgriffithclayg: We need to update the volume object with attach/detach info19:43
claygjgriffith: I agree that cinder needs to have initialize/terminate connection - but why would it be an extension vs. part of the core api - can cinder provide a service if it there _isn't_ an api to make connections?19:43
claygI tend to think of extensions at something that's optional?19:43
jgriffithclayg: forward looking I say yes19:43
jgriffithclayg: may be used for things other than compute perhaps?19:43
jgriffithclayg: implementation requirements could be differnt as well based on connection type etc19:44
claygwhatever those things are - won't they still need to tell cinder who it's going to need to connect to?19:44
jgriffithclayg: ahh.... in the connection info terms yes, I suppose that's true19:44
jgriffithclayg: is there a downside to having it as an extension?19:45
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claygjgriffith: I think some of the original pains with the volume api were their simply because core api functionality was implemented as an extension (os- namespace) - and then later it all had to move and the clients were a mess...19:46
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claygIf they api _needs_ to have a concept for connect - yes I think it should be in the core api19:46
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jgriffithclayg: I don't see a problem with that right now19:47
jgriffithclayg: Once we get things functional (ie nova using cinder for everyhting) let's talk about it again19:47
clayghahhaha19:47
jgriffithclayg: :)19:48
jgriffithclayg: Actually I'll be more specific, next weeks cinder meeting :)19:48
claygjgriffith: so that means whatever is implemented pre-folsum is basically subject to change :)19:48
jgriffithclayg: anything pre F2 correct19:48
jgriffithclayg: My hope is after F2 it's refactor/cleanup etc but nothing huge19:49
jgriffithclayg: I realize you're seeing the same problem you just said you want to avoid19:49
jgriffithclayg: We won't do that :)19:49
claygwell I suppose we've got a month until f2 - patches welcome I presume :D19:50
jgriffithclayg: Yes, absolutely.  I just want to be functional before F219:51
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jgriffithclayg: if things go well the next few days maybe we change it next week... depending on further thought19:51
claygwhere functional == can run cinder with stock iscsidriver in devstack?19:51
jgriffithclayg: yes19:51
claygcool, any related nova reviews open currently?19:52
jgriffithclayg: we're making good progress, I just need to get something done with nova/volume/api19:52
jgriffithclayg: cinder related?  Don't think so (yet)19:53
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tr3buchetvishy: but the network manager is a service...19:57
tr3buchetvishy: not code that's used elsewhere (in most cases)19:57
tr3buchetrustlebee: maybe try putting an rpc call somewhere that is obviously being called19:58
tr3buchetthis is pretty eldritch19:58
vishytr3buchet: service.py imports rpc19:58
vishytr3buchet: that is probably enough to make it work19:58
tr3buchetvishy: yeah19:58
vishytr3buchet: holy crap i'm a coder again.  5 reviews outstanding19:59
rustlebeeif that was true, shouldn't this work?  python -c 'import nova.service ; print rpc'19:59
vishytr3buchet: for a minute there I thought I was an email responding machine20:00
rustlebeevishy: vacation will do that.  :)20:00
tr3buchetvishy: woohoo!!20:00
tr3buchetvishy: more coding for everyone!!20:00
vishyrustlebee: hmm possibly20:00
rustlebeei think the code just never actually got used, heh..20:01
tr3buchetrustlebee: i think you're right about the print20:01
rustlebeeand by "the code", i mean those code paths that used rpc20:02
tr3buchetwell now we know that this code is super important :D20:02
vishyrustlebee: no you appear to be correct20:02
tr3buchetand that the unittests are awesome20:02
rustlebee\o/20:02
zykes-vishy: does quantum manager do stuff with floating ips ?20:03
tr3buchetyou get +1 internets20:03
tr3buchetzykes-: it does if you use nova ipam20:03
vishytime for lunch.  bbs20:05
zykes-vishy: I think it's broken in Quantum then20:07
zykes-the thing we talked of yesterday20:07
ttxnotmyname: oh, ok. So next week.20:09
notmynamettx: ya, unfortunately20:10
notmynamettx: I'll make launchpad entries as needed. just trying to find everything that there will be20:11
ttxok, great20:11
tr3buchetrustlebee: verified you are correct on my end also20:12
tr3buchet[15:12:12] < Dragon> NameError: global name 'rpc' is not defined20:13
tr3buchet[15:12:16] < Dragon> verified20:13
tr3buchet[15:12:23] < Dragon> it's broken20:13
tr3buchetrustlebee: ^20:13
rustlebeecool, glad there wasn't voodoo going on that we didn't understand20:13
tr3buchetDragon has forgotten more about python than I'll ever know.20:13
rustlebeehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/8057/20:13
rustlebeefix ^20:14
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dragondmWe really need better unittests...20:15
dragondmI wonder how long that code has been in there :P20:16
rustlebeedragondm: since late april20:18
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dragondmjoy.20:18
rustlebeegit bisect <320:18
dragondmyup.20:19
zykes-anyone used puppet for deployment20:19
rustlebeenope, noone20:19
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zykes-what nice answers rustlebee ...20:21
rustlebee:)20:22
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rustlebeeglad to be of assistance20:22
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zykes-rustlebee: why answer like that ?20:26
rustlebeebecause it's Friday and I felt like joking around?20:27
zykes-;p20:27
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ttxrustlebee: is that a long-term new nickname or only valid for June ?20:29
rustlebeeonly valid for Fridays, and depends on the phase of the moon20:30
ttxI can still tell who you are and bother you with security bugs, you know20:30
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rustlebee:)20:30
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vishysad face, you can't put whitespace at the end of a line with our cfg parser23:02
vishywe need to support quotes23:02
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zaitcevor \04023:30
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vishycolored log output! http://i48.tinypic.com/rcogea.jpg23:30
jgriffithvishy: Nice!23:31
jgriffithMy eyes thank you!23:31
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