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| jtran | anyone know how i can change my review.openstack.org username? | 00:04 |
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| vishy | mtaylor, jeblair: ^^ | 00:28 |
| vishy | jgriffith: I'm thinking that the fix should be to use block_device_mapping instead of calling to the volume api | 00:28 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: in fact we should probably expose bdm in the compute api via something like compute_api.get_volumes_for_instance() and use db.block_device_mapping_get_all_by_instance and filter by volumes | 00:32 |
| vishy | maybe it should be compute_api.get_block_device_mappings(instance_uuid) | 00:33 |
| vishy | or (best yet) compute_api.get_instance_bdms(context, instance) | 00:34 |
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| zaitcev | What in the world is ERROR:root:ERROR: swift.cache could not be found in env! (includes the exclamation mark) | 01:13 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: oh no turn it off now before it explodes! | 01:13 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ;-) | 01:13 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: sounds like the cache middleware isn't in the pipeline | 01:13 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: hmm...I was just assuming you are talking about swift | 01:14 |
| notmyname | oh yeah. it says "swift" right there | 01:15 |
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| zaitcev | notmyname: sorry about that, an un-obvious syntax error in swift/common/server.py apparently | 01:16 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: the proxy /should/ be able to run without the caching middleware, but we aren't great at testing that with every commit. I know we had it working at one point, but we may very well have added the dependency back somewhere. | 01:18 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: (there isn't a swift/common/server.py) | 01:19 |
| zaitcev | swift/proxy/server.py, sorry | 01:19 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: do you by any chance have a line number? | 01:19 |
| zaitcev | It's my error, not yours, sorry for the noise. And the error is print "path_info", ("[%d]"%len(req.environ['PATH_INFO'])) | 01:20 |
| zaitcev | Just in case you had any illusions about my prowess in Python. | 01:22 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Just saw your note, sorry... I missed the points you made in IRC. Looking at it now :) | 02:38 |
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| zykes- | can I have multiple nova-volumes pr nova cluster ? | 08:40 |
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| LarsErikP | in the future... Are there any specific plans to add image-upload for end users to horizon? | 09:10 |
| LarsErikP | and if so, any docs stating that? | 09:10 |
| trapni | LarsErikP: better ask that in the mailing list, I guess :) | 09:13 |
| LarsErikP | trapni: okey, will do | 09:19 |
| LarsErikP | :) | 09:19 |
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| dtheodor | what's the simplest way to setup nova and start development of a quantum plugin atm? devstack or someting else? (i am testing on a real cluster btw, does devstack support this?) | 10:12 |
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| zykes- | vishy: ping | 10:53 |
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| mirrorbox | hi! anybody knows if there's currently any progress on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/general-bare-metal-provisioning-framework ? and specifically, is there NTT code avialable somewhere? | 11:29 |
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| journeeman | [Quantum] Has the plug_attachment API call been deprecated? | 11:56 |
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| davidha | notmyname, hi | 12:54 |
| notmyname | davidha: good morning | 12:54 |
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| davidha | GM - I am working diligently on analyzing the choice of eventlet wsgi vs. using a more standard apache2 mod_wsgi as a front end | 12:56 |
| notmyname | ok | 12:56 |
| davidha | notmyname: one of the issues I am not sure about is the as follows: | 12:56 |
| davidha | notmyname: I noticed that the number of green thread is hard coded - 1024 I think | 12:57 |
| notmyname | davidha: where do you see that? | 12:58 |
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| notmyname | davidha: ya, I see it now | 12:59 |
| davidha | Ok - it is the Pool size | 12:59 |
| davidha | notmyname: this means two different things - 1. that a process web front end will stop responding after reaching 1024 tcp connections (i.e it will simply stop accepting new connections) | 13:00 |
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| notmyname | (yes, per worker) | 13:01 |
| davidha | notmyname: 2. that the requets processor (the actual server) will work in a concurency level of 1024, even if it is better suitd to work in a lower concurency level (e.g. due to being I/O or CPU bound) | 13:01 |
| notmyname | davidha: that would be something that should be pretty simple to move into a config variable, if you need to change it | 13:02 |
| davidha | notmyname: If my analysis is correct, this is a compromise - increasing the number of thread would make teh server more responsive while at teh same time may harm the performance | 13:02 |
| davidha | notmyname: Moving it to config file is needed - but I wonder if we do not need also to seperate the asynchrnous domain of the two functions | 13:04 |
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| notmyname | davidha: which two functions? | 13:04 |
| davidha | notmyname: e.g. allow the web front end to scale up in concurency and queue the requests before serving tehm with the request processor | 13:04 |
| notmyname | ah | 13:04 |
| davidha | web front end (i.e. eventlet.wsgi) and request processor (e.g. openstack object server code) | 13:05 |
| davidha | I am putting all this together in a post | 13:06 |
| notmyname | davidha: put it together in a patch ;-) | 13:06 |
| davidha | notmyname: I will - but one step at a time :) | 13:06 |
| davidha | This is complex and easy to get wrong | 13:07 |
| notmyname | indeed :-) | 13:07 |
| davidha | Would you be willing to review what I have so far and see if you see major flaws? | 13:07 |
| notmyname | review of your post or a code patch? | 13:08 |
| davidha | notmyname: I am still discovering too many things about swift every day :) | 13:09 |
| davidha | post - patch will come later | 13:09 |
| davidha | as for patch, it nees to go through all the process - never doen that with openstack before | 13:09 |
| notmyname | davidha: I can try. | 13:10 |
| notmyname | davidha: ya, the initial hurdles for submitting a patch to an openstack project are somewhat high. let me know if you need any help on that front | 13:10 |
| davidha | Also - several ietms to patch (each small): 1. add control of the concurency level, 2. consider a queue betwene the front end and the request processor, 3. add support for working with external wsgi server (e.g. mod_wsgi) 3. fix some wsgi bugs I found in the process | 13:11 |
| davidha | 5. fix 3 to be 4 | 13:11 |
| davidha | notmyname: I will, but I am still in the reserach stage of determining what I would like to blueprint - hence the post I am working on | 13:12 |
| notmyname | davidha: I'd recommend submitting those in as discrete patches as possible | 13:12 |
| davidha | notmyname: no prob. | 13:13 |
| notmyname | davidha: don't worry about blueprints. the code is all we need | 13:13 |
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| davidha | notmyname: see http://blog.davidhadas.com where I collect my thoughts. These posts are meant to change and be revised with every new information I am gathering on each subject - in fact I already revised them many times. | 13:19 |
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| notmyname | davidha: cool, I'll take a look and pass it along to some of the other devs | 13:26 |
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| davidha | notmyname: ok, I want to find flaws first and later open it to a wider discussion since there are many aspects there which come to play - al this before a patch :) ... | 13:27 |
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| BLZbubba | is it easy to disable the nova-network SNAT rule? | 13:41 |
| BLZbubba | i commented out routing_source_ip but it had no effect | 13:42 |
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| BLZbubba | i'm looking at linux_net.py and it looks like there is no way to turn this off | 13:54 |
| BLZbubba | which is a disaster; shouldn't it not to snat if there is no routing_source_ip? | 13:55 |
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| BLZbubba | or can I send a patch for a nova.conf no_snat option | 13:55 |
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| Kiall | BLZbubba, Why are you trying to disable SNAT? | 13:56 |
| BLZbubba | mainly because our production network nazis don't wnat every openstack vm to inherit every rule they open up | 13:59 |
| BLZbubba | but i am not a fan of snat in general if it is not needed | 13:59 |
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| BLZbubba | i don't want the nova-network machine to be the default route either but i can live with that for now | 14:00 |
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| Kiall | BLZbubba, the instances wont inherit anything like that... | 14:02 |
| Kiall | the SNAT IP will only allow outbound connections from the instances.. | 14:02 |
| BLZbubba | if every vm has the same IP address, then how will a firewall on a different network be able to tell the difference? | 14:02 |
| Kiall | Inbound connections will be made on the Floating IP assigned to the instance, which nova will manage per-vm iptables for | 14:03 |
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| BLZbubba | i don't have floating ip addresses, these are internal-only vm's with a single ip | 14:03 |
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| Kiall | BLZbubba, Ah.. Right, honestly not sure how well that will work.. But.. ignoring that for a moment.. | 14:05 |
| Kiall | nova will still manage per-instance firewall rules.. | 14:05 |
| Kiall | With the default being "block everything".. | 14:05 |
| Kiall | (assuming traffic to the instances passes via the nova-network nodes) | 14:06 |
| Kiall | Oooo - Firewall for outbound traffic.. heh | 14:07 |
| Kiall | my bad | 14:07 |
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| mnaser | wow, just self-trolled myself, accidently had caps lock open in vim, boy does that get you confused | 14:11 |
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| creiht | davidha: the difficulty with trying to get swift to work with mod_wsgi, is that mod_wsgi is not very async friendly | 14:25 |
| creiht | or at least wasn't the last time I looked at it | 14:26 |
| BLZbubba | Kiall: :) | 14:28 |
| BLZbubba | Kiall: i'll see how it does with no nat | 14:28 |
| davidha | creiht - when you say that it is not async friendly, you mean that you wish to run asynchrnous I/O inside a wsgi appication? | 14:29 |
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| BLZbubba | Kiall: maybe we need an option to replace --flat_network... with --comically_simple_network... | 14:30 |
| BLZbubba | where nova-network provides dhcp addresses and that's it | 14:30 |
| creiht | davidha: I mean that, swift is written entirely from an async I/O perspective | 14:31 |
| creiht | davidha: I read your blogs | 14:31 |
| creiht | You can probably make that work | 14:31 |
| creiht | but my main question is still, what problem are you trying to solve | 14:32 |
| creiht | ? | 14:32 |
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| davidha | creiht: What issue do you see with using Eventlets for example within an application servicing as a mod_wsgi application (assuming this is what you want to do)? | 14:33 |
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| creiht | davidha: sorry gotta run to a meeting | 14:34 |
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| davidha | creiht: Sure, lets cont this later | 14:34 |
| bcwaldon | eglynn_: Removed that comment in my review you pointed out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7430/ | 14:40 |
| eglynn_ | bcwaldon: cool, looking at the latest patch set now ... | 14:41 |
| bcwaldon | eglynn_: thanks! | 14:41 |
| bcwaldon | eglynn_: and the dependent branch is super simple, too | 14:41 |
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| eglynn_ | bcwaldon: both patches +2'd again | 14:44 |
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| bcwaldon | eglynn_: awesome, thanks for your time :) | 14:44 |
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| maoy | comstud: what's the reason to use call to scheduler when more than 1 VMs are requested, but use cast otherwise? | 15:12 |
| maoy | comstud: especially if we do not consider the cell stuff? | 15:13 |
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| maoy | vishy: what's special treatment of the task_states.RESIZE_VERIFY? what's that state designed for? thanks. | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Implement get_hypervisor_hostname for libvirt. https://review.openstack.org/7445 | 15:25 |
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| chmouel | is gerrit very busy? I can't seem to push to it atm (ie: it failing to http://pastie.org/private/pb9wbg1j97ohmvhytexg) | 15:34 |
| mtaylor | vishy: ping | 15:36 |
| jeblair | chmouel: it is not | 15:36 |
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| jeblair | chmouel: ssh review.openstack.org -p29418 gerrit ls-projects | 15:38 |
| jeblair | chmouel: ^ use that command to test your connectivity to the gerrit server | 15:39 |
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| chmouel | jeblair: weird, seems like a network issue but only on that server let see if i can do from a RAX cloudserver | 15:39 |
| mnaser | chmouel: port 29418 blocked? | 15:39 |
| chmouel | mnaser: no... seems like just a connectivity issue but only for the gerrit server everything else works fine | 15:40 |
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| mnaser | chmouel: weird, tracert failing somewhere? | 15:43 |
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| creiht | davidha: actually after looking a little further, it looks like it may work now | 15:54 |
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| creiht | at one time graham had posted (I thought) about the troubles of supporting async frameworks in wsgi in general, and by extension mod_wsgi | 15:55 |
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| creiht | I have my hesitations, but by all means try it out, and report your results | 15:58 |
| chmouel | mnaser: seems to work now, not sure what was goign on | 15:58 |
| chmouel | mnaser: thanks | 15:58 |
| creiht | I've been wrong before :) | 15:59 |
| creiht | and I don't mind being proving wrong | 15:59 |
| creiht | and in the code, working code wins | 15:59 |
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| creiht | and in the end... | 15:59 |
| creiht | heh | 15:59 |
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| creiht | davidha: To me it comes down to the issue of concurrency in python | 16:02 |
| creiht | what front-end sits in front of it is a bit orthoginal to the question | 16:03 |
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| creiht | and lunch time :) | 16:04 |
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| winston-d | test | 16:27 |
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| vishy | mtaylor: sup? | 16:38 |
| vishy | maoy: when you do a resize, it stays in resize_verify until the user issues a verify_resize or a revert_resize | 16:38 |
| vishy | zykes-: yes you can have multiple nova-volumes | 16:40 |
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| mtaylor | vishy: we were discussing hypervisor gating, and realized we should check in with you about it | 16:44 |
| vishy | mtaylor: ok should i check scrollback? | 16:45 |
| mtaylor | vishy: nah, it was in #openstack-infra | 16:45 |
| vishy | mtaylor: ok what is the plan | 16:45 |
| mtaylor | vishy: main points: should we gate on other hypervisors (kvm, xen, openvz) - if so which ones? | 16:45 |
| mtaylor | vishy: and/or which things should we just do smokestack-style advisory testing on | 16:45 |
| vishy | kvm and xen seem like reasonable gates | 16:45 |
| vishy | i would consider lxc as it is next in the list | 16:46 |
| vishy | but i think the rest could be advisory | 16:46 |
| mtaylor | vishy: should we gate on kvm _instead_ of qemu? or in addition? | 16:46 |
| vishy | for now | 16:46 |
| mtaylor | ok. cool | 16:46 |
| vishy | kvm/qemu are exactly the same for all practical purposes | 16:46 |
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| mtaylor | vishy: for adding openvz support to nova, are you ok with there just being advisory testing setup before we merge that patch from hub_cap? | 16:47 |
| vishy | yessir | 16:48 |
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| mtaylor | vishy: great. that's helpful and the info I needed | 16:49 |
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| BLZbubba | is it possible to have only a set of floating ip's and have nova-network hand those out via dhcp? | 16:50 |
| koolhead17 | BLZbubba, does nova-manage floating <help> does/say anything | 16:50 |
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| vishy | BLZbubba: no floating are natted | 16:51 |
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| vishy | BLZbubba: if dhcp is handing them out they are fixed ips | 16:51 |
| BLZbubba | ok thanks. i'm trying to have a no-nat setup, with the fixed addresses in dns; seems like this isn't a popular setup | 16:56 |
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| mtaylor | LinuxJedi, jeblair: jtran is having the usernames-don't-match problem | 17:01 |
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| zykes- | . vishy but you can't set like where it should store the instances no ? | 17:04 |
| vishy | zykes-: No, it will split volumes amongst the hosts | 17:04 |
| vishy | via simple scheduler | 17:04 |
| zykes- | ok | 17:09 |
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| zykes- | vishy: what kind of disk setup is recommended for instances ? | 17:11 |
| zykes- | I've got like 1 single disk pr node atm | 17:11 |
| zykes- | and it only gives < 20 mb/s :( | 17:11 |
| vishy | zykes-: all deploys i have done just use a regular old raid | 17:11 |
| zykes- | to store instance files on it ? | 17:12 |
| vishy | yup raid -> lvm -> instances dir | 17:12 |
| zykes- | weird why my single disk chokes then | 17:12 |
| zykes- | :| | 17:12 |
| zykes- | there's like 0 load on it at all | 17:12 |
| mnaser | zykes-: that would sound like an virtualization issue, unrelated to openstack | 17:13 |
| mnaser | zykes-: what virtualization platform? you'd probably get more help with a channel where poeple have worked with it | 17:13 |
| zykes- | mnaser: KVM | 17:13 |
| mnaser | zykes-: i see, in that case try checking with the KVM guys, because at that point, openstack really doesnt do much difference, so maybe there is #kvm channel? | 17:13 |
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| ogelbukh | zykes-: libvirt io driver can be issue | 17:20 |
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| zykes- | ogelbukh: ? | 17:27 |
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| zykes- | do I need to set the virutalizatiuon vishy ? apparantly my vm's get --no-kvm | 17:34 |
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| vishy | zykes-: is virt turned on in the bios? | 17:36 |
| zykes- | checking | 17:41 |
| Daviey | does anyone know why horizon *needs* to transition to less? | 17:43 |
| Daviey | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/transition-to-lesscss | 17:43 |
| zykes- | transition to less ? | 17:43 |
| jgriffith | Daviey: Don't know what functionality they want specifically if that's what you're wondering... | 17:45 |
| jgriffith | Daviey: Maybe hit up John P. to get the specifics | 17:46 |
| bhuvan | any volunteers to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7149/? Dolph Matthews already blessed it ... | 17:46 |
| Daviey | jgriffith: right, i was just nosey as to the *need* for it.. Noticed John wasn't online, so asking around. | 17:48 |
| zaitcev | Aww man, so all the hubbub with moving from zaitcev@yahoo.com to zaitcev@kotori.zaitcev.us because it got stuck in git history was for nothing :-) | 17:48 |
| jgriffith | Daviey: Yeah, I'd be curious what they have planned as well. Sorry I'm no help | 17:49 |
| jgriffith | bhuvan: If you're just looking for a code review I'll help depending on context | 17:50 |
| jgriffith | bhuvan: You'll have to add me to the draft list... | 17:50 |
| zykes- | what's LESS ? | 17:51 |
| jgriffith | zykes: It's an alternative/enhanced css | 17:51 |
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| russellb | it's the new shiny thing? :) | 17:56 |
| bhuvan | jgriffith: added you to the reviewer list, thank you. | 17:56 |
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| zykes- | vishy: Virt was enabled yes | 17:56 |
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| vishy | zykes-: no idea why you are running without kvm then :) | 17:57 |
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| vishy | zykes-: libvirt_type=kvm ? | 17:57 |
| vishy | zykes-: can you run kvm manually? | 17:57 |
| maoy | vishy: i made a API vs state transition matrix https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsgKparJuTF2dExkN1VpbWIyV0ZOdVljY0lvU3lhdFE | 17:58 |
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| bhuvan | mtaylor: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7175/, when you find time? | 17:59 |
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| maoy | vishy: still updating it and reading the code. but I feel like it's more complicated than it should be | 17:59 |
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| Daviey | vishy: the defualt should probably be kvm, no? | 18:00 |
| vishy | Daviey: one would think | 18:00 |
| vishy | maoy: I'm sure it is | 18:00 |
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| Daviey | i find kvm too fast for me, it gives me no excuses to switch interest to dilbert comics. Therefore i prefer qemu. | 18:01 |
| maoy | vishy: some questions in the doc. e.g. I'm not sure why stop() is called before start()? | 18:02 |
| Daviey | I also have strong views on unit test parallelisation. | 18:02 |
| vishy | Daviey: agreed | 18:02 |
| koolhead17 | bhuvan, hey there | 18:03 |
| vishy | maoy: stop/start is odd, not sure about that | 18:03 |
| maoy | vishy: also not sure why there is a separate treatment between creating 1 instance vs multiple ones. | 18:03 |
| maoy | vishy: the code said something about zones, but I thought it was removed. | 18:04 |
| vishy | maoy: the reason for that handling was initially because the spec for boot returns one instance id | 18:04 |
| vishy | maoy: so it was a bit of a kludge to add in multiple | 18:04 |
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| maoy | vishy: i'm not sure I understand that.. | 18:05 |
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| maoy | vishy: but the db entry is created in api if maxcount=1, in scheduler otherwise | 18:06 |
| maoy | vishy: and there is also a cast vs call difference | 18:06 |
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| vishy | maoy: ah yes that may be leftover from the zones code | 18:07 |
| vishy | maoy: it probably should just always call | 18:08 |
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| zykes- | vishy: libvirt_type = kvm | 18:08 |
| zykes- | yes | 18:08 |
| vishy | maoy: I doubt the optimization of returning before hitting the scheduler is worth it | 18:08 |
| vishy | comstud: ^^ | 18:08 |
| mtaylor | bhuvan: done. looks great! | 18:09 |
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| comstud | vishy: hm, reading back | 18:15 |
| comstud | We need the uuid generated before we return to the API... | 18:15 |
| comstud | so that an immediate call to the API afterwards will show the instance | 18:16 |
| comstud | The multiple instance building in 1 call needs to be switched to do the same thing | 18:16 |
| comstud | that or we need to consider API changes to support a reservation ID concept | 18:16 |
| kbringard | is anyone maintaining an active repo for essex-stable on something other than the latest OSs… specifically a Ubuntu other than 12.04? | 18:17 |
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| zul | kbringard: ubuntu will have updated packages for stable/essex soon | 18:18 |
| comstud | maoy: ^ | 18:18 |
| maoy | comstud: the uuid is created at api if maxcount=1, at scheduler if maxcount>1. what's the thinking behind that? | 18:18 |
| kbringard | even in backports? so like, for Natty, Oneiric, etc? or just for Precise? | 18:18 |
| vishy | maoy: I think he's saying we should always generate the uuids at api and then pass on to scheduler with cast | 18:19 |
| vishy | jgriffith: reviewed your latest | 18:19 |
| maoy | vishy: oh.. got it | 18:19 |
| vishy | comstud: did i paraphrase correctly? | 18:20 |
| comstud | maoy: It's that way only because of some old code... and not a high importance to fix it :) | 18:20 |
| comstud | vishy: Yes | 18:20 |
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| comstud | but... | 18:21 |
| zul | kbringard: precise only since thats whats supported, until the cloud archive is open | 18:21 |
| comstud | there's some other things to think about.. | 18:21 |
| comstud | cuz we could potentially create 'max count' DB entries.. but maybe we only have room for somewhere between min_count and max_count | 18:21 |
| comstud | and what is the desireable outcome there? I guess we just sent the instances that couldn't fit to ERROR | 18:21 |
| maoy | comstud: that should work | 18:22 |
| comstud | But yeah, in any case.. the idea was we pass a list of uuids to the scheduler | 18:22 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: usernames-don't-match? You mean OpenID or the pkey conflict? | 18:22 |
| comstud | and we remove that hack of checking min_count to determine where to create the entries | 18:22 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: dunno | 18:22 |
| maoy | comstud: where does the quota check happen? | 18:22 |
| mtaylor | LinuxJedi: I think he may have set his usename improperly or something | 18:22 |
| comstud | maoy: API... at very beginning of build process in compute/api | 18:22 |
| kbringard | zul: cool, thanks | 18:23 |
| comstud | maoy: The quota stuff is being refactored quite a bit right now, also. there's a few reviews up | 18:23 |
| LinuxJedi | jtran: how can we help? | 18:23 |
| comstud | maoy: This is another reason why the DB entries should be created up front... so they count against quota immediately :) | 18:23 |
| jtran | hi. my launchpad user name is 'jtran' and i accidentally set my reviews.openstack.org username to 'jhtran' | 18:23 |
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| maoy | comstud: ok. | 18:23 |
| jtran | i suspect that's the reason why 'git review' thinks i don't have a cla | 18:23 |
| zykes- | vishy: . | 18:24 |
| vishy | mtaylor, jeblair: can you help jtran? | 18:24 |
| vishy | zykes-: what happens if you run it without no-kvm | 18:24 |
| zykes- | manually ? | 18:24 |
| LinuxJedi | jtran: ok, cool. I'm about to go have dinner, but I can look into it as soon as I get back | 18:24 |
| jtran | vishy, my bad LinuxJedi i assumed was helping me with that | 18:24 |
| LinuxJedi | vishy: I'm already on it | 18:24 |
| mtaylor | vishy: LinuxJedi is on it | 18:24 |
| vishy | yeah or --kvm-only (can't remember the command to force kvm) | 18:25 |
| comstud | maoy: I can try to fix that soon with some other changes I have coming :) | 18:25 |
| vishy | LinuxJedi, mtaylor, cool thanks | 18:25 |
| maoy | comstud: sure. with that rpc.call() gone, only 5 left. | 18:26 |
| maoy | comstud: which probably make sense in their context | 18:26 |
| zykes- | when I try to run it I just get an error for some commandline options | 18:27 |
| zykes- | qemu-system-x86_64: -append root=/dev/vda: could not open disk image console=ttyS0: No such file or directory | 18:27 |
| jtran | LinuxJedi, thanks! | 18:27 |
| maoy | i have more questions about resize/migration but i'll have to run now. will come back later to haunt you. :) | 18:27 |
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| comstud | hehe | 18:29 |
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| bhuvan | thank you, mtaylor. | 18:35 |
| bhuvan | btw, similar patch was already merged in openstack-common. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7174/ | 18:35 |
| mtaylor | bhuvan: great | 18:36 |
| vishy | zykes-: I don't know how to debug your kvm issues. I would check your libvirt.xml and make sure that it isn't specifying qemu | 18:37 |
| vishy | zykes-: if you are on ubuntu, you could try running kvm-ok | 18:37 |
| zykes- | seems ok | 18:38 |
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| zykes- | who vishy whyyy: <domain type='qemu'> | 18:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/keystone failed: Added Security backend and its SQL implementation. https://review.openstack.org/7239 | 18:44 |
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| zykes- | vishy: clues on why it does that ? | 18:49 |
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| jtran | zykes-, it's probably more of a libvirt/kvm question than an openstack one | 18:50 |
| jtran | i think you should ask in #kvm they might know | 18:50 |
| zykes- | jtran: weird, cause libvirt_type = kvm is set and my cpu has all the caps | 18:50 |
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| jtran | my knowledge of kvm/qemu is fuzzy but i think they work together | 18:50 |
| zykes- | quote: "whatever you are using to start the guest is adding -no-kvm... it's going to be slower than hell" | 18:50 |
| mnaser | zykes-: then check your openstack config because its using qemu | 18:51 |
| LinuxJedi | jtran: did you merge launchpad accounts at any time? | 18:51 |
| jtran | LinuxJedi, yes now that u mention it | 18:52 |
| LinuxJedi | jtran: cool, Launchpad broke you. I'll email you instructions on how to fix it | 18:52 |
| jtran | ok thx! | 18:52 |
| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: yep, broken OpenID, second one today :) | 18:53 |
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| zykes- | mnaser: this is weird > http://paste.ubuntu.com/989461/ but: libvirt_type : qemu from (pid=41513) wait /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/service.py:411 | 18:55 |
| zykes- | it's overriding my config :( | 18:56 |
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| mnaser | libvirt_type = qemu ? | 18:56 |
| mnaser | shouldnt it be kvm... | 18:57 |
| zykes- | ah | 18:57 |
| zykes- | crapppp | 18:57 |
| jtran | lol | 18:57 |
| jtran | i thought that was too obvious to mention :) | 18:58 |
| zykes- | :O | 19:00 |
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| zykes- | should a ubuntu image take like 2-5 minutes to boot up ? | 19:09 |
| kbringard | it depends | 19:10 |
| kbringard | if it's the first time that image is being run on a particular compute node, it has to cache the image to the node, so it could definitely take that long | 19:11 |
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| jtran | zykes, i would tail the instance console.log perhaps cloud-init is timing out. that usually hangs up the boot process | 19:15 |
| jgriffith | vishy: thanks for the review... I'll make the changes and yes I need to put together unit tests | 19:15 |
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| mnaser | we need a bot for common answers in #openstack -- would come in useful | 19:24 |
| kbringard | seriously | 19:25 |
| kbringard | for now, there's a few of us who sort of act as those bots :-p | 19:25 |
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| zykes- | cloud-init start-local running: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:03:11 +0000. up 25.00 seconds - no instance data found in start-local | 19:25 |
| zykes- | hmm | 19:25 |
| jtran | i hear kbringard is a master of setting up irc bots | 19:25 |
| kbringard | hah | 19:26 |
| maoy | jtran: i heard that too | 19:26 |
| kbringard | keep talkin' | 19:26 |
| mnaser | lol | 19:26 |
| mnaser | the common "what is openstack" and "how to setup openstack" | 19:26 |
| kbringard | yea | 19:26 |
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| jtran | mnaser, those aren't easy questions to answer | 19:27 |
| jtran | the bot reply might be a few pages long | 19:27 |
| mnaser | jtran: but something like, you wantto take a look at openstack? try devstack | 19:27 |
| kbringard | it should just return a link to lmgtfy.com | 19:27 |
| maoy | or a wiki link.. | 19:27 |
| jtran | true true | 19:27 |
| mnaser | and the usual "does anyone use x?" or "can someone help me?" generic questions that dont have context | 19:27 |
| mnaser | maybe whoever owns uvirtbot can add those features? | 19:29 |
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| zykes- | doesn't it check for dhcp before cloud-init ? | 19:32 |
| mnaser | zykes-: i believe dhcp runs and then cloud-init runs after | 19:32 |
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| maoy | vishy: is the effort of removing db code from n-cpu for simplicity, or for security too? i.e. we don't want any db access from the compute host eventually. that'd include the metadata server and nova-network in the multi-host case. | 19:37 |
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| vishy | security | 19:49 |
| vishy | maoy: nova-network will be replaced by quantum | 19:49 |
| kbringard | amen | 19:50 |
| vishy | metadata server will eventually not use db | 19:50 |
| vishy | so yes no db access, although for simplicity we could limit it to read only db access | 19:50 |
| vishy | maoy: ^^ | 19:50 |
| russellb | i should be able to start working on cutting down db access in folsom2 | 19:50 |
| maoy | vishy: got it | 19:50 |
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| asisin | howdy all! | 19:52 |
| maoy | vishy: what's up with the self.compute_api in a compute manager? | 19:53 |
| asisin | wondering if anyone on this list is in Seattle....would love to meet and hack away over a coffee | 19:53 |
| maoy | vishy: xenapi seems to still have it. in libvirt it's gone. | 19:53 |
| vishy | maoy: code that needs to be refactored | 19:53 |
| vishy | :) | 19:53 |
| maoy | vishy: but it's still referenced in resize confirm | 19:54 |
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| maoy | vishy: hard to keep track of these things. :) | 19:54 |
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| maoy | vishy: after resize, if a user needs to do confirm, what's the purpose of _poll_unconfirmed_resizes? | 19:56 |
| vishy | maoy: resizes are automatically confirmed after a while | 19:56 |
| maoy | seems a no-op in libvirt. | 19:57 |
| maoy | vishy: never mind. i mixed it with something else | 19:57 |
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| maoy | vishy: poll_rebooting_instances | 19:57 |
| vishy | not sure, but i assume it is cleanup for instances stuck in rebooting | 19:59 |
| vishy | maoy: i think there is a review to make resizes work in both | 20:00 |
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| vishy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6361/ < maoy | 20:01 |
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| anotherjesse | vishy: meeting in .. | 20:01 |
| vishy | anotherjesse: got it | 20:01 |
| lorin1 | Is there any mechanism for the user to specify the MAC address of an instance at provision time? | 20:01 |
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| anotherjesse | lorin1: I don't believe yet | 20:04 |
| lorin1 | anotherjesse: ( | 20:04 |
| anotherjesse | lorin1: I asked troy toman (at rax) who worked on quantum and melange about adding that | 20:04 |
| anotherjesse | since it would be useful for booting things like license servers | 20:04 |
| lorin1 | anotherjesse: That's our use case. | 20:04 |
| anotherjesse | I think the next step is adding a blueprint | 20:05 |
| bcwaldon | ask tr3buchet | 20:05 |
| lorin1 | anotherjesse: I'll add one. | 20:05 |
| lorin1 | bcwaldon: Was that to me? | 20:06 |
| bcwaldon | sure | 20:06 |
| bcwaldon | he has a lot of info RE networking in Nova | 20:06 |
| bcwaldon | and Melange | 20:06 |
| lorin1 | bcwaldon: What's tr3buchet's real name? | 20:07 |
| bcwaldon | Tr3y Morris | 20:07 |
| lorin1 | nice | 20:07 |
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| mnaser | bcwaldon: I am writing a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/997725 to include validation, do you think it's acceptable to raise "ValidationError" exception if the role/tenant/username is empty? | 20:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 997725 in keystone "Role name is not required" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:09 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: is ValidationError a builtin? | 20:10 |
| mnaser | it's part of the exceptions in keystone -- https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/exception.py#L41 | 20:10 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: yes, that looks right | 20:11 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: alright, sounds good | 20:11 |
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| tr3buchet | lorin1: trey morris | 20:18 |
| tr3buchet | oops | 20:18 |
| tr3buchet | missed that part | 20:18 |
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| tr3buchet | lorin1 there currently not a way to specify mac address | 20:19 |
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| lorin1 | tr3buchet: I just created a blueprint for this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/configurable-mac-addresses | 20:25 |
| lorin1 | tr3buchet: Is anybody else currently working on this? | 20:25 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: do you think it's fine if we can include the models in core.py so I can get the required_keys and do the checks in the controller? | 20:25 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: can you give me some full paths to go look at? | 20:26 |
| mnaser | i could just put them manually but I feel like it might be cleaner, that way if required_keys are updated, it will automatically make sure that it's working | 20:26 |
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| mnaser | bcwaldon: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/core.py#L296 -- i spoke to someone (cant remember who) who said that it was ok to put the validation in the controller | 20:26 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/models.py do you think its ok to import this and use the required_keys for the specific model we want to create/modify | 20:27 |
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| bcwaldon | mnaser: I'm inclined to say *no*, as I would assume that validation (required keys) is being done elsewhere | 20:28 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: is that validation being done elsewhere? | 20:28 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: nope, nowhere, i asked someone from core (really wish i can remember who it was) but there is none, for emptyness, not null | 20:29 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: null will stop, but if its an empty string, it'll go through | 20:29 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: so its validating that the values in required_keys are non-null? | 20:29 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: sorta, but not really. the db driver has the column as non_null so it raises an exception | 20:29 |
| cp16net | jgriffith: regarding cinder: shouldn't the notifier include the context now when sending messages? or just leave the notifier.api alone without the context. | 20:29 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: it's depending on the driver to do the validation | 20:30 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: thats really odd... | 20:30 |
| cp16net | jgriffith: nova notifier.api.notify includes the context as the first parameter and thats different than what i see in cinder atm | 20:30 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: just grepped the src code, required_keys is never ever mentioned anywhere | 20:31 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: Could be an oversight, I'll have to take a look at it | 20:31 |
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| bcwaldon | mnaser: yeah, look for known_keys | 20:32 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: thats only used once, though | 20:32 |
| cp16net | jgriffith: ok i was adding the notifications and it was different | 20:32 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: You're looking at a level of validation above existence (which required_keys is designed to represent) | 20:32 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: I would discuss with heckj | 20:32 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: I see! and now that you've said the name, I spoke with heckj :p | 20:33 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: that's great!! I'll see if I can figure out the delta later. If nothing else it's easy to change that piece | 20:34 |
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| cp16net | jgriffith: looks like the context is only needed for the rabbit_notifier | 20:34 |
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| cp16net | all the other drivers just ignore the context | 20:34 |
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| cp16net | jgriffith: looks like i should add it for compatibility of rabbit and i noticed that it was added not long ago to nova so that is probably why its not in cinder now | 20:35 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: nova has simply straightforward checks throughout it however… like this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L604 | 20:35 |
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| bcwaldon | mnaser: yes, but many would argue that isn't a great approach | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: Yeah, anything in the past month added to nova likely hasn't made it into cinder yet | 20:36 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: at this point, its up to the Keystone leadership, not me :) | 20:36 |
| cp16net | ok | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: Things will get a bit more stable once we have basic functionality but it's still sort of just "get it working" :) | 20:37 |
| cp16net | jgriffith yeah i understand | 20:37 |
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| mnaser | bcwaldon: I see.. okay, well for starters ill just put in something like the way nova does it and in the review it can be fixed | 20:38 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: sure, thats a good idea | 20:38 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: because thinking more, relying on required_keys isnt good because i dont have an id when creating so.. | 20:38 |
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| lorin1 | sandywalsh_: Are you around? I have a scheduler filter question for you. | 20:44 |
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| tr3buchet | lorin1: i have a feeling that's something more of an extension, but i can look into it. i set it drafter to nova-network so it's on my radar | 20:55 |
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| lorin1 | tr3buchet: thanks. Is nova-network going to be completely replaced by quantum for folsom, or will it still be around? | 20:56 |
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| tr3buchet | lorin1: it will definitely still be around | 20:57 |
| tr3buchet | lorin1: i've got to step out, i'll see anyhting you ping me with or pms | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: More accurate rescue mode testing for XenAPI https://review.openstack.org/7328 | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Rearchitect quota checking to partially fix bug 938317. https://review.openstack.org/6774 | 21:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 938317 in nova "rapid firing from command line can go over quota" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938317 | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Remove deprecated quota code. https://review.openstack.org/7365 | 21:43 |
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| mnaser | bcwaldon / heckj: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7464/ :) | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: DRYing up Essex migration. https://review.openstack.org/7458 | 22:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/glance failed: Add credential quoting to Swift's StoreLocation. https://review.openstack.org/7095 | 22:02 |
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| zykes- | hmmm vishy what can be the issue when I've fixed nova.conf as well ?= | 22:07 |
| zykes- | /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -S -M pc-1.0 -no-kvm | 22:07 |
| bcwaldon | jeblair: does the devstack gate deploy swift? | 22:08 |
| bcwaldon | or mtaylor ^ | 22:09 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: I've got another bone to pick with you, too | 22:09 |
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| clarkb | bcwaldon: enabled services appear to be g-api,g-reg,key,n-api,n-crt,n-obj,n-cpu,n-net,n-vol,n-sch,horizon,mysql,rabbit | 22:22 |
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| bcwaldon | clarkb: why thank you, sir | 22:22 |
| clarkb | and swift is in SKIP_EXERCISES | 22:22 |
| clarkb | so I think the answer is no | 22:22 |
| bcwaldon | thats no good | 22:23 |
| clarkb | https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-host.sh#L60 | 22:23 |
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| clarkb | does swift need to be enabled as a dependency for something else or are you looking to run the swift exercises? | 22:39 |
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| zykes- | vishy: can something be caching the info for the .xml files ? | 22:47 |
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| vishy | zykes-: you won't fix already running instances by changing the flag | 23:02 |
| vishy | zykes-: so you have to change the flag, restart nova-compute, launch new instance | 23:03 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: ping | 23:17 |
| jgriffith | vishy: yo | 23:19 |
| vishy | jgriffith: i think you missed one of my comments on the last patchset | 23:23 |
| jgriffith | vishy: ohhh noooooo | 23:23 |
| vishy | jgriffith: actually nevermind | 23:23 |
| * jgriffith looking at last review | 23:23 | |
| vishy | jgriffith: you changed it i was just surprised to see a long debug message for not volume_id and then a short one | 23:24 |
| vishy | jgriffith: seems odd to have two different localized debug messages for the same issue | 23:24 |
| jgriffith | vishy: ohhh... yeah, about that one | 23:24 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I got all OCD on that for some reason | 23:25 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I can change it to match the other one.... | 23:27 |
| vishy | jgriffith: i don't care which it is, but it should probably be the same for the sanity of our translators | 23:27 |
| jgriffith | vishy: understood and I agree | 23:27 |
| vishy | jgriffith: otherwise everything looks good | 23:28 |
| jgriffith | vishy: the tests are minimal but at least there's "something" there now | 23:28 |
| vishy | jgriffith: I will +2 when you make the change | 23:28 |
| jgriffith | vishy: Ok, great, I'll match up the debug messages now | 23:28 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Minor delay, but it's submitted now | 23:34 |
| jgriffith | vishy: BTW I thought this was appropriate if there were NO bdm's returned as opposed to "volume not found" | 23:39 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: I suppose, but I think actually that code will never get hit | 23:41 |
| vishy | jgriffith: i think every instance has bdms, but i could be wrong | 23:41 |
| vishy | jgriffith: anyway good enough :) | 23:41 |
| jgriffith | vishy: :) | 23:41 |
| jgriffith | vishy: thanks for your patience again! | 23:42 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: hopefully I have some time to actually do the code I signed up for | 23:42 |
| jgriffith | vishy: and you're correct... it'll never get hit unless the call fails | 23:42 |
| vishy | jgriffith: maybe tonight :) | 23:42 |
| jgriffith | vishy: :) anotherjesse has offered to work on it also if you'd like | 23:43 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: It just seemed you had a pretty good plan formulated already | 23:43 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: how is cinderclient going? | 23:47 |
| vishy | jgriffith: can we actually run cinder and create volumes with cinderclient yet? | 23:47 |
| jgriffith | vishy: Not yet, hopefully next week | 23:48 |
| jgriffith | vishy: there really hasn't been much input at all the past couple weeks. | 23:48 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I'm just getting back to the python client | 23:48 |
| vishy | jgriffith: yeah we're just going to have to make it work i think | 23:48 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I'd like to be able to create volumes next week | 23:49 |
| vishy | jgriffith I will try to get the last step of separation done by tomorrow. | 23:49 |
| jgriffith | vishy: It's not bad, I've got most of it up to date with novaclient (I think) but need to finish up some fakes | 23:49 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: cool, I count all this FK deletion as part of it :) | 23:50 |
| jgriffith | anotherjesse: your ears must've been burning | 23:50 |
| vishy | the next steps (extra extensions and making a proxy-to-client version of the api) require a working cinderclient i think | 23:51 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Yeah, I think so | 23:51 |
| jgriffith | maybe I'll throw out what I have tonight/tomorrow and add as needed | 23:52 |
| jgriffith | Should probably just have mtaylor squash the history now rather than wait | 23:52 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: BTW.. side topic, do folks typically not use gerrit Draft feature? | 23:55 |
| jgriffith | I prefer commit often and work form different locations so it's handy for me | 23:55 |
| vishy | jgriffith: it was only recently added, so we haven't really figured out the use for it | 23:55 |
| vishy | jgriffith: how does it help with that? | 23:55 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: well I don't use my personal github, just checkotu a branch and commit as I go | 23:56 |
| jgriffith | vishy: then when I'm finally ready I just change it to a review | 23:56 |
| jgriffith | Plus I work on diff machines so that's handy | 23:56 |
| vishy | jgriffith: ah, yeah i generally just push to a github branch until i'm ready for review. | 23:56 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I may do that just to keep the number of patch sets from looking so awful :) | 23:57 |
| vishy | jgriffith: checkout hub, it makes dealing with github branches a little easier | 23:57 |
| jgriffith | vishy: cool.. I'll do that | 23:57 |
| vishy | jgriffith: https://github.com/defunkt/hub | 23:57 |
| vishy | very useful if your pushing and pulling from github remotes a lot | 23:58 |
| vishy | saves you having to type https://github.com/vishvananda/nova.git a lot | 23:58 |
| vishy | hub clone -p vishvananda/nova | 23:58 |
| vishy | huab remote add jgriffith | 23:58 |
| vishy | etc. | 23:58 |
| vishy | * hub | 23:58 |
| jgriffith | nice... better than all of my zsh aliases | 23:58 |
| vishy | jgriffith: ok i'm out, I will try and get to that volume_api cleanup tonight | 23:59 |
| jgriffith | Cool... have a good night! | 23:59 |
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