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| hugokuo2 | is ther any about how to increase replica for existing swift deployment | 02:00 |
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| hugokuo2 | . for example , replica from 2 to 3 | 02:00 |
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| notmyname | hugokuo2: no, that's not possible currently without a manual migration | 02:05 |
| hugokuo2 | notmyname , so what's the usual method to do manul migration ? | 02:06 |
| hugokuo2 | object one by one ? | 02:06 |
| notmyname | ya | 02:06 |
| notmyname | hugokuo2: the ring is what defines a cluster, so you will have to rehash all of the objects in the "old" cluster into the "new" cluster. the simplest way to do that is GET and PIT | 02:07 |
| notmyname | PUT | 02:07 |
| notmyname | alternatively you could walk each disk and rehash that way, but it would be a lot more complex and more prone to error | 02:08 |
| hugokuo2 | notmyname . got it . We r going to find out an better approach | 02:11 |
| hugokuo2 | thx | 02:11 |
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| bodepd | how does authentication work between compute nodes and glance? | 03:32 |
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| bodepd | nevermind, I think I figured it out. Looks like it gets the auth token from rabbitmq and uses that to authenticate with the glance api server | 03:47 |
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| koolhead11 | bodepd, its keystone which does authentication | 03:52 |
| bodepd | how does the nova compute instance provide the correct auth token when it connects to glance | 03:53 |
| koolhead11 | it checks role associated with tenant for a particular tenant | 03:56 |
| koolhead11 | and accordingly if role permits token is provided | 03:57 |
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| bodepd | I understand that, I am a little confused about how the auth information even passes through glance | 03:58 |
| bodepd | the compute node actually calls the glance api server directly | 03:58 |
| bodepd | I figured out my misconfiguration, I was just a little confused as to exactly how it all worked | 03:59 |
| koolhead11 | bodepd, compute and glance are services and they have endpoint associated with it | 04:01 |
| bodepd | yes | 04:01 |
| koolhead11 | http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-image-service/1.0/content/ see if this gives some info to you | 04:02 |
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| zykes-_ | vishy: ping ? | 07:00 |
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| ttx | jeblair: it shows up now. Maybe Launchpad is eventually consistent | 07:46 |
| ttx | jeblair, jgriffith: also fixed project title to simply "Cinder" since it can't be called "OpenStack Block Storage" until it's formally core. | 07:49 |
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| zykes-_ | ttx: is Cinder aka LUNR or just nova volumes ? | 07:51 |
| ttx | zykes-_: it's the in-progress split of nova-volumes | 07:51 |
| zykes-_ | ah ok | 07:52 |
| zykes-_ | is it a that big part of nova ? as in in code | 07:52 |
| ttx | it's a significant part, could benefit from an external-facing API... and a relatively easy split. | 07:53 |
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| andrewbogott | dhellmann: regarding db manipulation... is there any situation where a plugin would want to create a new table /in/ the nova database? Is there any upside to sharing a db vs. the plugin having its own? | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | andrewbogott, it seems like something plugins might want to do for referential integrity, but it also seems like something we should discourage | 14:44 |
| * andrewbogott nods | 14:44 | |
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| dhellmann | using a separate db also makes the schema migration management easier | 14:46 |
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| notmyname | mtaylor: ping | 15:25 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: pong | 15:25 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: what can I do for you? | 15:25 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: I didn't want to say something stupid responding to you email, so I figured I'd ask in here instead ;-) | 15:26 |
| mtaylor | sweet | 15:26 |
| notmyname | re: generate_authors | 15:26 |
| mtaylor | oh - it's possible that nothing I said there applies to swift :) | 15:26 |
| notmyname | hehe | 15:26 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: yes | 15:26 |
| notmyname | swift's authors file can't be unit tested. we've got people in there who don't have anything in VCS logs, but need to be acknowledged | 15:27 |
| notmyname | mostly from pre-openstack days | 15:27 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: ah, wow, you always do make new requirements for me ... | 15:27 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: so the idea with generate_authors is that we'd _stop_ unit testing the files, because we have the info in git | 15:28 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: what are you using that info for? | 15:28 |
| mtaylor | but that certainly doesn't help with pre-vcs people | 15:28 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: well, one step back - there is the idea that we should have an AUTHORS file, and that it should contain correct information | 15:28 |
| notmyname | right | 15:29 |
| notmyname | I agree with that | 15:29 |
| mtaylor | awesome | 15:29 |
| notmyname | we've been keeping it up-to-date at roughly every release | 15:29 |
| notmyname | git shortlog -nes and adding the people that aren't there | 15:29 |
| mtaylor | indeed. for the other projects, we have unittests which verify that the current committer is in the authors file | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | but that seems like more work than just generating the file directly from git at python setup.py sdist time | 15:30 |
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| mtaylor | so - for your case - what if we have an AUTHORS.in file (similar to MANIFEST.in) that would give you a place to put non-git people | 15:31 |
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| mtaylor | and the generate_authors would do the generation and then append AUTHORS.in to the result? | 15:31 |
| notmyname | interesting | 15:31 |
| notmyname | I suppose that would work | 15:31 |
| notmyname | I don't know how much of a revolt that would cause ;-) | 15:32 |
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| notmyname | I think I could keep it contained though | 15:32 |
| notmyname | but the bigger question, I think, is why? | 15:32 |
| mtaylor | hehe. yay for revolt! | 15:32 |
| mtaylor | well, for the other projects, it's about removing a step from code from new people | 15:33 |
| notmyname | I really don't like how the AUTHORS file is overloaded (for openstack governance). that's probably a different topic for a different day | 15:33 |
| mtaylor | oh! well, I agree with that | 15:33 |
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| notmyname | ya, but instead of fixing a doc typo to get in the AUTHORS file, you make your commits and then are added. to me it feels like inviting yourself to a party | 15:34 |
| mtaylor | is there a difference? I mean, you don't get added unless your commit lands | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ultimately there is no difference | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Add instance to log messages. https://review.openstack.org/6554 | 16:13 |
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| mtaylor | notmyname: I have added a request to the bug to deal with your needs | 16:17 |
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| eglynn_ | dprince: can you sanity-check the security_group[s|_rules] quota logic in https://review.openstack.org/5910 if you get a chance? | 16:26 |
| eglynn_ | dprince: (context is the security_group_rules quota being per-security-group as opposed to per-project-id like the other quotas) | 16:27 |
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| dprince | eglynn_: yes | 16:30 |
| eglynn_ | dprince: thanks! | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | jaypipes: ping | 16:42 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: ooh, nice report. | 16:42 |
| zul | mtaylor: +1 for adding write_changelog | 16:43 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: glad you like it. that's what the ping was about. i think it'll really help with big test sets. | 16:43 |
| jaypipes | indeed. | 16:44 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: I'm working on a fix for the volume failure now... think it might be the cause of the other failure | 16:45 |
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| jeblair | cool, it'll be neat to see that go green. :) | 16:45 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: indeed. | 16:46 |
| mtaylor | zul: w00t | 16:46 |
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| kbringard | hey guys, I have a question about swift performance tuning if anyone has a few moments | 16:53 |
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| zaitcev | kbringard: This is probably best taken to the list. | 17:05 |
| kbringard | zaitcev: okie, I'll fire out an email | 17:05 |
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| BLZbubba_ | i have a quick nfs-/var/lib/nova/instances question - should all of the nova-compute nodes share the same mount point? and will i have any configuration to do or is it safe to just mount & go | 17:10 |
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| rmk | Seen this happen a few times now -- snapshot a VM, completes fine but nova thinks the VM is shutdown after the snapshot is done, even though it's running just fine. Trying to figure out how to consistently reproduce it before filing a bug. | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Add instance logging to vmware_images.py https://review.openstack.org/6693 | 17:35 |
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| sdague | dprince: was your -1 on the InnoDB patch just from the pep issue, or was it deeper? | 18:04 |
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| dprince | sdague: just pep8. | 18:16 |
| sdague | dprince: ok, cool, that's fixed now. I guess I just counted wrong the first time :) | 18:16 |
| dprince | sdague: Great. I'll have another look then. | 18:16 |
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| jaypipes | fattarsi: reviewing now. | 18:46 |
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| fattarsi | jaypipes: great | 18:48 |
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| sdague | bcwaldon: jeblair thought I should hit you up on a testing approach to ensure all the mysql tables in nova are InnoDB. I have a draft review up for comment if you have a chance - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6805/ | 18:49 |
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| rnirmal | ttx: can you end a meeting in #openstack-meeting, the moderator got disconnected and none of us can end it. | 18:57 |
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| jeblair | jgriffith: now that you're back, can you "#endmeeting" in #openstack-meeting? | 19:09 |
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| sdague | vishy: which quota table do you think is missing? I thought I had them all covered | 19:38 |
| dprince | sdague: quota_classes? | 19:39 |
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| dprince | sdague: Also. In your branches when you reference a bug use 'bug' instead of 'issue'. Gerrit convert 'issue #1234' to a linkable bug. But it will if you use 'bug #1234' for example. | 19:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1234 in launchpad "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 | 19:40 |
| sdague | dprince: yep, you are right. I swear I had that in there at one point. | 19:40 |
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| sdague | dprince: great, thanks, I'll fix that as well | 19:41 |
| dprince | sdague: Thanks. Not a big deal but it does make it handy for reviewers. | 19:41 |
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| sdague | dprince: on the utf8 front, I think migration #77 covers that, as it sets the default charset for the database to utf8 | 19:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/glance failed: Merge registry context with common context https://review.openstack.org/6793 | 19:49 |
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| eglynn | bcwaldon: gimme a shout if the latest comment on https://review.openstack.org/6821 is unclear | 19:55 |
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| mikal | vishy: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6631/ when you have a sec? | 21:24 |
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| vishy | mikal: thanks | 21:34 |
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| vishy | mikal: we can go ahead with your other uuid refactor as well | 21:34 |
| vishy | mikal: I added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/finish-uuid-conversion | 21:34 |
| vishy | mikal: so it might be nice to put a partially-implements blueprint finish-uuid-conversion on yours | 21:35 |
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| vishy | I can assign that blueprint to you as well, although _jgriffith is doing the volume id conversion parts | 21:35 |
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| vishy | mikal: do you think you will want to handle the instance_metatdata and security_group_instance_association ones? | 21:36 |
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| mikal | vishy: as in those are other tables which use instance_id at the moment? | 21:37 |
| * mikal looks at the blueprint | 21:37 | |
| mikal | (You have to talk slowly, its 7:30am and I'm still drinking coffee) | 21:38 |
| mikal | Ok, yes, I am happy to do those other tables if no one else is working on that. | 21:38 |
| mikal | So what was the outcome with db upgrades? We're just going to keep going as is for now? I don't need to tweak that review to handle upgrades somehow? | 21:39 |
| _jgriffith | mikal: thanks... if I finish the volumes early and get to them eary I'll ping you to see where you're at | 21:39 |
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| mikal | _jgriffith: NP. More than happy to share the pain. | 21:40 |
| _jgriffith | :) | 21:40 |
| mikal | The reality is that I am oncall the weekend after ubuntu release, so I _might_ get to it, but possibly not | 21:40 |
| _jgriffith | mikal: Well, if you'll be around on IRC I can ping you and get status updates and go from there, sound ok? | 21:41 |
| mikal | Sure | 21:41 |
| mikal | I should be around most of the time | 21:41 |
| vishy | mikal: we are going to keep going for now | 21:44 |
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| mikal | vishy: okie, works for me | 21:45 |
| vishy | sat down and analyzed with my team what it would take to do fully live upgrades and we are too far off to start worrying about live db upgrades yet | 21:45 |
| mikal | As in not for Folsom? | 21:45 |
| mikal | Sometime in Gerkin instead? | 21:45 |
| vishy | mikal: if we somehow get there by folosom, we can go back and write special migrations for these cases | 21:45 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:45 |
| vishy | mikal: there are three blueprints we need in before it is going to matter | 21:46 |
| vishy | mikal: so we are just going to document and improve the process for non-live upgrades | 21:46 |
| vishy | mikal: for now | 21:46 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:46 |
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| vishy | mikal: (meaning short api downtime, no vm downtime) | 21:46 |
| mikal | Also, if compute nodes don't use the db, that will make upgrades easier as there is less code to touch | 21:46 |
| vishy | mikal: exactly | 21:47 |
| vishy | mikal: rpc versioning / no-compute-db / graceful worker shutdown | 21:47 |
| vishy | and we can actually talk about how live upgrades would work | 21:48 |
| vishy | until then we'd be putting the cart before the horse. | 21:48 |
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| mikal | Agreed | 21:48 |
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| vishy | mikal: the code name is Gee Whiz! | 21:49 |
| vishy | mikal: although I like Gherkin too... | 21:50 |
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| mikal | vishy: I was going to go with Gerbil next | 21:52 |
| mikal | How are the states selected? How did we end up with CA for Folsom? | 21:52 |
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| thingee | mikal: http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNaming | 21:54 |
| thingee | well I guess that doesn't explain how it was picked, shucks | 21:55 |
| mikal | Well, it kinda does. It implies whoever books the conference could use their powers for evil. | 21:56 |
| mikal | Run the design summit in a place where all the cities start with G and are all named Gerkin<unique number> | 21:56 |
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| vishy | mikal: summit location | 22:11 |
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| pabelanger | How long does it usually take to get approved as an openstack contributor? Safe to say a day or so? | 22:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: make all mysql tables explicitly innodb https://review.openstack.org/6811 | 23:05 |
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| vishy | jeblair, mtaylor: something went wrong with nova-cert here https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/3672/ | 23:16 |
| vishy | it never responded and the call timed out | 23:16 |
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| vishy | it doesn't look like we capture the logs from n-cert, can we add that? | 23:16 |
| vishy | jeblair, mtaylor: actually it looks like n-crt didn't even start in that build, i see it in other builds | 23:17 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Looks like I missed another foreign key in SMVolume | 23:20 |
| vishy | mikal: appreciate the update of that branch but you actually have to write 'blueprint finish-uuid-conversion' for it to autolink | 23:21 |
| mikal | Le sigh | 23:21 |
| mikal | Uploading a fixed version now | 23:22 |
| mikal | Done | 23:22 |
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| vishy | :) | 23:24 |
| vishy | jgriffith: 0_o | 23:24 |
| jgriffith | vishy: So close... :) | 23:25 |
| mtaylor | vishy: oh good. I like it when things don't even start | 23:30 |
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| jeblair | vishy: copying the logs to jenkins uses a glob, so if there was an n-crt log, it should have been copied over | 23:32 |
| jeblair | screen-n-crt.log -> /opt/stack/screen-logs/screen-n-crt.2012-04-26-224920.log | 23:33 |
| jeblair | and that's a dangling symlink | 23:33 |
| jeblair | so it wasn't created. i'll try to find out why | 23:34 |
| harlowja | use devstackpy :-P | 23:38 |
| harlowja | h | 23:38 |
| harlowja | aha | 23:38 |
| jeblair | vishy: the n-crt window in screen is sitting at the prompt, it shows no sign of having received the stuff command to run nova-cert. prehaps there's a race condition with those screen commands. | 23:38 |
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| vishy | jeblair: there is a sleep between running them | 23:43 |
| vishy | perhaps it needs to be longer :) | 23:43 |
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| vishy | jeblair: maybe we need to up the sleep 1.5 to sleep 2 | 23:44 |
| vishy | jeblair: to handle a heavily loaded vm... | 23:44 |
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| jeblair | well, it created the window, but did not run the command | 23:47 |
| jeblair | you know what... maybe bash hadn't started yet? | 23:47 |
| jeblair | or was in some way not able to receive the input from the stuff command | 23:47 |
| jeblair | so maybe there needs to be a short sleep between starting the window with bash, and the stuff. | 23:48 |
| jeblair | _or_, get rid of the stuff and run bash -c "whatever" | 23:48 |
| jeblair | vishy: ^ | 23:48 |
| vishy | jeblair: | 23:48 |
| vishy | yes the note with the sleep | 23:49 |
| vishy | is it is to wait for bash to start | 23:49 |
| vishy | 1.5 is usually long enough but i guess it wasn't in that case | 23:49 |
| mtaylor | wow. that's just great | 23:49 |
| jeblair | vishy: oh, i see. i agree with you now. | 23:50 |
| vishy | tmux ftw! | 23:50 |
| jog0 | +1 tmux ftw! | 23:50 |
| jeblair | to be fair, that test may have run on a very slow VM. we get those from that particular provider sometimes. | 23:50 |
| mtaylor | vishy: can we hand tmux a startup command? | 23:51 |
| jeblair | whoah | 23:51 |
| vishy | tmux is much easier to script yes | 23:51 |
| jeblair | we can hand BASH a startup command. :) | 23:51 |
| vishy | jeblair: ? | 23:51 |
| jeblair | and we can do that with screen. switch to tmux if it's better, but be sure we're solving the right problem | 23:52 |
| jeblair | currently devstack starts bash, and then simulates typing a command into bash | 23:52 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: perhaps we should make a patch to start screen with the startup command, rather than a sleep if that's a possible choice? | 23:52 |
| jeblair | that can obviously just be done with "screen, start bash with this command" | 23:52 |
| jeblair | they might be done in separate steps to get screen output logs. | 23:52 |
| jeblair | but perhaps it's possible to combine that step. | 23:53 |
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| vishy | jeblair: it is done | 23:53 |
| vishy | so you can ctrl-c up enter | 23:53 |
| vishy | to restart | 23:53 |
| jeblair | to be clear, not opposed to tmux, just want to make sure those issues are considered | 23:54 |
| vishy | jeblair: I was half joking about tmux | 23:54 |
| vishy | there was a patch in to support it that never merged | 23:54 |
| * jeblair is humor impaired apparently. | 23:54 | |
| jeblair | gotta run | 23:54 |
| * mtaylor punches jeblair in the humor | 23:55 | |
| * mtaylor doesn't always make sense... | 23:55 | |
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