Tuesday, 2012-02-14

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vishydayou: sup?00:17
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/python-novaclient failed: shell: Hook --debug up to more stuff  https://review.openstack.org/328600:36
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: get_user behavior in ldapdriver  https://review.openstack.org/374100:36
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/python-novaclient failed: Return a useful message if passed API version is unknown  https://review.openstack.org/328700:38
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smoseranyone happen to know how i'd set up a multi-nic setup in devstack?01:25
smoseri'm looking to get cloud-init working with config_drive and don't really know how i'd get a network interfaces file into that config drive.01:26
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smoseri think i'm wanting to 'nova boot --nic <something> ....' but not sure of the right syntax how to get that right01:28
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annegentlemtaylor: or jeblair or Jenkins experts around this evening?04:34
termiemtaylor, jeblair: it seems like jenkins isn't respecting the updates to pip-requires: https://review.openstack.org/#change,410304:44
termieannegentle: hi anne :)04:45
annegentletermie hi :)04:45
annegentleyay for jenkins reports. I think I resolved my issue by just logging in again, whew.04:46
mtaylorannegentle: hey- and good04:47
mtaylortermie: looking...04:47
mtaylortermie: looks like a bug - we _should_ be trying to update the venv if the pip-requires was changed04:48
termiemtaylor: yeah i see it running the pip-requires, but it doesn't seem to get the ones that changes04:49
termiemtaylor: it still tries to install py-bcrypt despite the change removing it and replacing it with passlib04:49
mtaylortermie: trying out a fix04:55
mtaylortermie: weird. ok - it's gonna take me a few to get it fixed, but I'll get it sorted05:03
termiecool thanks, it does seem unusual that it would work that way05:03
mtaylortermie: well, we do a bunch of caching work to try to keep it from trying to do pip installs normally at the top of the test05:05
mtaylortermie: but we're supposed to have the case in there that if the current change carries a change to the requires, that we will go ahead and hit the net05:06
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mtaylorcrappit. I have to run out for a sec - I'll fix it as soon as I get back and make sure your patch lands05:07
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack-dev/devstack failed: Blueprint cli-auth  https://review.openstack.org/364605:21
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack-dev/devstack failed: Blueprint cli-auth  https://review.openstack.org/364605:34
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: typo fix  https://review.openstack.org/409705:54
johan_-_/tmp/hudson5138250266861158005.sh: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'05:57
johan_-_looks like something is broken with jenkins05:58
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termiemtaylor: i think we messed things up more trying to fix stuff07:10
termiemtaylor: we cleared the workspace and now a variety of htings break07:10
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termiemtaylor: if you do get a chance to look at it it would be great, we had hoped to have these in tonight so that we could try to land the large merge prop tomorrow morning07:11
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YorikSarmtaylor: Sure, yorik.sar@gmail.com is my address09:05
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kbringardhas anyone seen this issue… using multi-host and VlanDHCP, if a VM has a floating IP it can't talk to other VMs in the same project without floating IPs because its traffic sources from the floating IP and doesn't route to the internal14:12
kbringardI'm wondering if there is potentially an issue in the way the prerouting rules are setup, but I don't want to spend a ton of time digging into it if someone has seen it before and knows the solution14:15
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: clean pyc files before running unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/410914:48
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: clean pyc files before running unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/410916:08
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joesavakayoung: what does IPA return for user-disabled authN?16:12
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: typo fix  https://review.openstack.org/409716:14
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aleixdorcaI have a problem with glance... maybe it's a bug: If I do a curl request to get the images with a valid token all is fine, but if I change the token to something invalid glance-api returns a KeyError: 'access' error and it fails to 'authenticate' further requests with valid tokens or not... I'm using the Keystone and Glance trunk version via ppa.16:32
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zulttx: ping17:22
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hogepodgeHowdy. Any Nova devs around?17:23
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ayoungjoesavak nsAccountLock17:39
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joesavakayoung: thanks. No restAPI in front of IPA?17:41
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ayoungjoesavak, XML/JSON RPC17:41
ayounghttp://adam.younglogic.com/2010/07/talking-to-freeipa-json-web-api-via-curl/17:41
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ayoungjoesavak, but not for authn17:41
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ayoungthat is done via Kerberos17:41
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kbringardsoren: you about?17:43
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termiedoes pep8 now require that all pip-requires dependencies have a version number?18:00
termiemtaylor: you may know this ^^18:01
ayoungtermie, keystone meeting?18:02
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termiewas there a decision made at some point that all pip-requires entries needed explicit versioning?18:06
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mtaylortermie: it shouldn't18:07
termiemtaylor: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-pep8/859/console18:07
mtaylortermie: we've had conversations about being more explicit in pip-requires though18:07
mtaylorlooking18:07
termiemtaylor: it also is still trying to use some old pip-rquires that has bcrypt in it18:08
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mtaylortermie: ah, nope - that was a bug in the fix for the problem. I fixed it and re-kicked unittests, forgot to re-kick pep818:09
termiemtaylor: ah18:09
termiemtaylor: can we do that now?18:10
mtaylorjust did18:10
termiemtaylor: groovy18:10
mtaylortermie: you should be all green on that change now18:11
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/openstack-ci-puppet failed: Poweroff a lost machine.  https://review.openstack.org/414818:11
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andrewbogottdragondm:  Can I ask you a couple more questions about nova notifications?18:13
dragondmsure!18:13
andrewbogottI pretty much know how to do what I want by listening directly to the queue.  I don't quite follow how hubbub fits into the picture.18:14
andrewbogottWhich, maybe I should just ignore it...18:14
andrewbogottI'm just trying to gather stats about running instances, memory usage, etc.18:15
andrewbogottIs hubbub only relevant if I want a human-readable log of events?18:15
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termiemtaylor: still some weirdness, not sure if i am doing something wrong... it is getting a merge conflict on the next change18:15
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/python-novaclient failed: Fixes bug 925644: move dotfiles into dir  https://review.openstack.org/381318:16
termiemtaylor: but my changes are based on the previous ones18:16
termiemtaylor: and i've since tried to rebase and push them up again18:16
termiebut i get To ssh://termie@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/keystone.git ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/redux/legacy_migration (no new changes)18:16
termieerror: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://termie@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/keystone.git'18:16
mtaylorwhen you rebased, did you rebase both changes on master?18:16
termiethey are all in a branch, i rebased the entire branch on redux18:17
termieand pulled redux after the latest commits landed18:17
mtaylorso - there is a small lag between patch landing in gerrit and it showing up in github - can you check and see if your origin/redux has the landed change?18:18
termiehttp://pastie.org/338247018:18
termiei am using redux18:18
termienot touching github at all18:18
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mtaylorhrm. ok18:18
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termiemtaylor: oh, maybe that isn't true18:19
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termiemtaylor: i thought it old it to use the gerrit branch as a base for redux b18:19
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dragondmandrewbogott:  Basically pubsub is only needed if you want a publish-subscribe model w/ ,many consumers.  The Atom format it uses is designed for machine parsing.18:20
termiemtaylor: gerrit redux says up to date also18:20
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dragondmIf just reading from the queue gets you what you need, then go for it.18:21
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termiemtaylor: that change doesn't even touch utils.py (where the conflict is happening)18:21
andrewbogottdragondm:  OK, cool, I will just gloss over those bits of the docs then.  My next question is:  Do you happen to know if there is ready-made code someplace that will set up a consumer for these notifications?  (so far it's not totally obvious what my host/user/password/queue should be.)18:22
mtaylortermie: link to merge conflict problem?18:22
mtayloror is it locally?18:22
andrewbogottwhich, I'm sure I can figure it out myself; just don't want to reinvent the wheel18:22
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dragondmit'd be the same as what nova uses.18:22
dragondmalso there are multiple queues.  Most usages are on the notifications.info queue by default18:23
andrewbogottok.  That may be all I need.  Thanks.18:23
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termiemtaylor: it is on the console i linked to https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-unittests/444/console18:25
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termiemtaylor: relevant https://review.openstack.org/#change,410418:26
termiemtaylor: it would seem that the change before it (change password hash) is the one causing a conflict in some way18:26
termiemtaylor: since, as i said, the change that is failign does not touch utils.py18:26
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termiemtaylor: perhaps i can abandon all these changes and re-submit them?18:30
mtaylortermie: gimme a sec...18:31
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mtaylorjeblair: can you help me look at the above ^^18:39
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mtaylorjeblair: for some reason I cannot reproduce the problem that jenkins is having above18:41
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termiemtaylor: i think it is trying to apply the same change twice, perhaps?18:42
mtaylortermie: I believe it's trying to apply some change twice - but I don't understand why I'm not seeing it locally when I try to get mylocal repo in to this state18:45
mtaylorjeblair will know more18:45
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mtaylortermie: I mean, you could certainly abandon, cherry-pick and re-submit - but I'd kind of like to understand what broke here, since I've never seen this before18:46
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termiemtaylor: what do we think is the eta on jeblair being around?18:48
mtayloraha! I have re-created locally18:50
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termieheyooo18:51
mtaylortermie: ok. so: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4808/ is the merge error18:52
mtaylortermie: the change in 4104 is based on top of 5b92190f1c3773ba75a455fc593f37ac55e4424718:52
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mtaylortermie: but the change password hash commit that landed is 48f2f650c8b622b55e67610081336055ec9a2c8e18:53
jeblairmtaylor: sorry, was hacking.  :)18:53
mtaylorjeblair: silly man - doing work18:54
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termiemtaylor: i see, sort of18:54
termiemtaylor: so it got the first iteration not the second18:54
termieof the change password18:54
termiebut somehow doesn't realize that18:54
mtaylortermie: ah - when I re-triggered the change password jobs I might have re-triggered the wrong change18:55
termiemtaylor: i dunno, that update happened right away18:55
termiemtaylor: so by the time we had problems with it i would have expected it to be already there18:55
termiemtaylor: but yeah, it seems like patch 1 when in rather than patch 218:55
termiemtaylor: how do we resolve?18:56
mtaylorpatch 3 actually went in ...18:56
mtaylorBUT ...18:56
jeblairtermie: when you retrigger a job, you can still retrigger it with the old patch (if you pick the job tha ran on the old patch), which i think is what mtaylor was saying he may have done18:56
mtaylorto resolve here, if you can rebase your current changes on 48f2f650c8b622b55e67610081336055ec9a2c8e18:56
termienoop18:57
termieerm18:57
termiewrong branch18:57
termieone sec18:57
termiehmm, still thinks no new changes18:58
termiethat change was rebased away, i suspect18:58
termiesince it got pushed up into the existing review18:58
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termieactually yeah, they are already based on that one, do i need ot rebase on the 5b92190f1c3773ba75a455fc593f37ac55e44247 ?18:59
termie5b92190f1c3773ba75a455fc593f37ac55e44247 is the bad one18:59
mtaylorno, we want to make sure that they're not based on 5b92190f1c3773ba75a455fc593f37ac55e4424718:59
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termieokay, so rebase on the thing before it and make sure that one is not in, lessee where that is19:00
mtaylorAH19:00
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mtaylorhangon - I think I see now19:00
mtaylorre-kicking the jenkins 4104 job is just re-kicking the change that was rebased on the old tree19:01
mtaylorwhich is patch 2 on that change19:01
mtaylorpatch 3 in gerrit is correct19:01
mtaylorso we just need to appove that one19:01
termiedone19:01
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termiecoooooool19:02
mtaylorcool. that's going to work :)19:02
termieyayay19:02
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termiemtaylor: saddd19:07
termiemtaylor: back to initial bug19:07
termiemtaylor: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-unittests/446/console19:07
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mtaylortermie: but that patch didn't update pip-requires19:08
mtaylortermie: sigh. one sec.19:08
mtaylortermie: actually completely different bug with same results19:08
mtaylortermie: thanks! we're sorting out all of the keystone job deficiencies today!19:09
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termiemtaylor: do you know the fix for this one?19:11
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mtaylortermie: yup19:11
termiemtaylor: kk, brb, need to buy milk19:12
mtaylortermie: k. should be sorted when you get back19:13
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jaypipestermie: ping19:19
mtaylorjaypipes: he's out buying milk19:20
jaypipesah. k19:20
jaypipesthx19:20
mtaylorit's what I do19:20
mtaylor:)19:20
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termieback19:24
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termiemtaylor: continued failure: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-unittests/447/console19:33
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* YorikSar_ Our office kitchen always has lots of milk and cookies. Turn to our side.19:38
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mtaylortermie: fixed! (potentially even permanently)19:39
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YorikSarmtaylor: Have you had a chance to compile an email for me?19:40
mtaylorYorikSar: you are on my list for today (and we're actually about to have a meeting about how to properly handle you)19:42
mtaylorbcwaldon: SO - novaclient and rax...19:43
YorikSarmtaylor: Will this meeting be in IRC? I can participate there19:43
mtaylorYorikSar: no, local in-face meeting to make sure I tell you the right thing19:43
bcwaldonmtaylor: I may have jumped to a conclusion I shouldn't have19:43
bcwaldonmtaylor: python-novaclient no longer supports v1.0, which is all you have on public rax cloudservers19:43
mtaylorYorikSar: but perhaps we'll do an IRC meeting with you once we know what's up19:44
YorikSarmtaylor: Great!19:44
mtaylorbcwaldon: /me cries19:44
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mtaylorbcwaldon: remind me to raise the issue of python-novaclient not dropping old cloud support...19:45
YorikSarmtaylor: Ah... When do you expect to do it? I don't thing I'll be up for more that two hours.19:45
termiemtaylor: le sigh: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-unittests/449/console conflict again19:45
termiesame one19:45
termieshould i rebase again19:45
mtaylortermie: jeez19:45
bcwaldonmtaylor: We do need to discuss it19:45
termieno changes to push still19:46
mtaylortermie: nope - you're all in gerrit properly19:46
termieog same thing19:46
mtaylortermie: you just need to approve the new changes that you pushed19:46
termieit is patch19:46
termie219:46
termieyeah19:47
YorikSarblamar_: Are you somewhere around here?19:48
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blamarYorikSar: here :)19:48
YorikSarblamar: About that change with SnapshotIsBusy19:49
YorikSarblamar: We can discuss a bit here19:49
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YorikSarblamar: If I can gain a blessing from you this way :)19:50
mtaylorYorikSar: let's meet tomorrow then19:50
blamarYorikSar: Just one question, what are the possible values for 'status'?19:50
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mtaylorYorikSar: I'll send you an email after we meet19:51
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YorikSarmtaylor: ok, I'll be here till the same time19:51
YorikSarblamar: I believe that it's driver's respinsibility to put snapshot to available status, just like it is with busy volumes.19:52
blamarYorikSar: Ok, I was just worried that if when a snapshot is created it might have a status of 'saving', then if that exception is raised the status would get updated to 'available' before the snapshot is actually finished.19:53
YorikSarblamar: Hm... Neever thought about that.19:53
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YorikSarblamar: Isn't the 'saving' status for images, not for snapshots?19:56
blamarYorikSar: Right, I might be wrong here because I'm not aware of the possible 'status' field options for snapshots. The only one I know is 'available'...if that is the only one then this change will work just fine.19:57
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YorikSarblamar: There is 'creating', 'error' and 'deleted', if I didn't miss something19:59
YorikSarblamar: And 'available' of course20:00
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blamarOk, so if the status is 'creating' and someone attempts a delete, does the driver raise SnapshotIsBusy?20:00
YorikSarblamar: I believe, it shouldn't. The same logic applies to volumes.20:01
YorikSarblamar: btw, I don't see any check for current status anywhere, so this can be potential erroneous spot.20:03
YorikSarblamar: I mean, our driver wouldn't do it since the applience will return big error if you try to delete unexistent snapshot.20:04
YorikSarblamar: Oh, sorry, found it. VolumeAPI checks for objects' status before each operation, so one can only delete available volumes and snapshots20:05
blamarYorikSar: Awesome, that's what I wanted to hear.20:06
blamarYorikSar: gotta make a quick phone call, then I'll get on your review. promise :)20:06
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YorikSarblamar: Thanks! I'll be here for some time20:07
tr3buchethas anyone seen this issue? http://pastie.org/338307220:10
tr3bucheti have recent trunk (~1 hour), and run tests witha venv20:11
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/python-novaclient failed: Fixes bug 925644: move dotfiles into dir  https://review.openstack.org/381320:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 925644 in nova "Novaclient bash-completion is polluting homedir with dotfiles" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92564420:31
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mikalDoes Padraig hang around on IRC at all?20:39
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/glance failed: Ensure sane chunk size when pysendfile unavailable.  https://review.openstack.org/414521:00
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eglynn__mikal: Padraig (Brady) is usually on as pixelbeat21:06
mikalAhhh, nice.21:06
mikalI suspect its a bit late in Ireland to be online...21:07
eglynn__mikal: yep, you'll catch him tmrw tho'21:07
mikalHeh. Nup, I'll be away by then. Australia and Ireland suffer from a failure to overlap well.21:08
mikalI'll try to hang around late tonight to intercept him I suppose.21:08
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vishycomstud: ping21:17
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comstudvishy: pong21:20
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vishycomstud: going to bring up the zones branch in the meeting21:21
vishyjust wanted to make sure you were around for it21:21
comstudvishy: ok21:21
comstudgood call, i forgot the meeting a lot21:21
comstud:-/21:21
comstudvishy: did you take a look at it?21:22
vishyyeah21:22
comstudvishy: the compute api stuff is kinda rough, but works for now21:23
comstudwe need some larger changes to clean things up21:24
zulmtaylor or jeblair: so keystone redux is going to be using the same tarball as keystone right?21:28
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mikeyptr3buchet: haven't see it, and I'm on current trunk21:39
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YorikSarNot to bother the meeting. Are new zones some groups of Nova nodes?21:42
vishysort of21:43
vishyit is a similar idea to the old zones21:43
YorikSarvishy: old zones was like a separate Nova instances, new ones are the same or they are governed inside one Nova instance?21:44
vishyvery similar21:45
vishydifference is that they talk over the queue instead of through public api21:45
vishyand they propogate some database data up21:45
YorikSarvishy: so, there is still nova-api dedicated to each zone?21:46
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vishyI'm not sure21:46
vishyi think there is a pseudo-api which is a new worker21:46
vishyin the subzones21:46
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YorikSarvishy: ok, I'll investigate on this to be clear on this21:48
vishyYorikSar: https://review.openstack.org/#change,406221:49
anotherjessezul: got time to chat about keystone -> ksl packaging for ubuntu21:49
zulanotherjesse: yep21:49
anotherjessezul: did you guys ever ship keystone (eg, is there a data migration requirement for packaging)21:49
zulanotherjesse: yes we have keystone in the archive right now, afaik talking with mtaylor you guys are just shipping a new tarball so once we update the build/runtime depends we should be fine,21:50
zuland package pycli21:50
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adam_gzul: isn't keystone in backports for oneiric/diablo?21:51
zuladam_g: not that i know of21:51
adam_gzul: oh, okay21:51
YorikSarvishy: as soon as I push Nexenta driver tomorrow21:51
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adam_ganotherjesse: in that case, the only people using it who will be migrating data will be anyone currently using essex on precise21:52
vishyYorikSar: you're working on the nexenta driver?21:52
anotherjessezul: k - the complex part would have been the data migrations - we have tools to help with that (keystone-manage has a import legacy command)21:52
anotherjessebut since you aren't doing that it should be pretty easy21:53
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YorikSarvishy: yep21:53
vishyYorikSar: you should be aware of this change then: https://review.openstack.org/#change,399021:53
zulanotherjesse: cool, just one question why was pycli added?21:53
anotherjessezul: is termie around?21:53
vishyI don't know if you use multiple LUNs on the same target21:53
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anotherjesseerr - sorry - pinging termie to ask him21:53
YorikSarvishy: nope, fought this early in diablo version. Single LUN per target, one target per volume21:54
vishyYorikSar: ok cool.  Well it should work after that patch with multiple luns should you ever need it.21:55
termiezul: at the time it seemed that it would offer useful cli features21:56
termiezul: at this point i look forward to removing it21:56
YorikSarvishy: mb we'll adapt drover to this since it's very messy to have dozens of targets on appliance21:57
zultermie: that would be awesome since its one less package that is not in the ubuntu archive21:57
anotherjessezul: should remove block merge or can we do it post merge (tomorrow?)21:57
termiezul: aye, it isn't terrible but i've had to work around it so much already that there isn't much of a point21:57
zulanotherjesse: it can probably be done tomorrow21:58
anotherjessezul: we'll create a bug and mark it HIGH (and then change to critical post merge)21:59
zulanotherjesse: sounds good, please subscribe me to it as well21:59
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anotherjessezul: launchpad id zul?21:59
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zulzulcss22:00
zullong story22:00
zul:)22:00
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termieoh, what did i just sign up for?22:03
termieremoving that whole lib tomorrow, eh22:03
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anotherjessetermie: you can talk zul into submitting a patch ;)22:04
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zulanotherjesse: yeah zul has alot on his plate already :)22:04
annegentlevishy: or another admin, can you approve David Cramer on this list? https://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla/+members#proposed22:05
YorikSarvishy: I'm looking at that change about LUNs now. How is driver supposed to propagate the LUN# for each volume in this logic?22:08
YorikSarvishy: As far as I see, we'll have to somehow store LUN# and then override it in the return value of _get_iscsi_properties.22:09
jaypipesbcwaldon: if you have a moment... https://review.openstack.org/#change,404522:10
YorikSarvishy: May be, we should somehow reserver space for LUN# in provider_location?22:10
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bcwaldonjaypipes: yeah, working on a ksl issue first22:11
vishyYorikSar: it should send it back in initialize_connection22:11
vishyYorikSar: I was assuming the backend could look it up somehow22:11
comstudvishy: does ec2 api really support min/max_count ?22:11
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comstudvishy: I'd love to remove this for now22:11
vishyYorikSar: but if you need to store it in the db, you could probably throw it into provider location22:12
vishycomstud: yes it does22:12
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comstudvishy: fudge.. someone told me it didn't22:12
comstudokay22:12
jaypipesbcwaldon: cheers, no rush22:12
YorikSarvishy: It'll cause extra round-trip for every connection instead of keeping everything prepared in DB22:12
Daviey.22:12
vishyYorikSar: doesn't initialize connection have to make a roundrip to the backend anyway?22:13
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YorikSarvishy: If we somehow alternate provider_location syntax, we'll have to overwrite _get_iscsi_properties at once, which will cause code cloning, which is not good.22:15
YorikSarvishy: It connects to appliance over iSCSI, it doesn't need to make extra requests over management connection22:16
vishyYorikSar: right, I just don't want to have to change the syntax for essex22:16
anotherjesseDaviey: ?22:16
vishyYorikSar: other drivers do security setup in the appliance during initialize_connection22:16
vishyYorikSar: so it has to make a request to the appliance anyway. But alternatively it could keep an in memory mapping, and just request the mapping from the appliance in init_host22:17
YorikSarvishy: It can be optional 3rd field in provider_location, so that it doesn't interfere with those who doesn't use it22:17
vishyYorikSar: agreed.22:18
vishyYorikSar: for F?22:18
vishyYorikSar: I mean you aren't planning on multiple LUNs right now anyway right?22:18
YorikSarvishy: I'd be glad to use it in essex22:19
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/glance failed: Add a generic tox build environment.  https://review.openstack.org/404822:19
YorikSarvishy: But if it's too much for FF, we can postpone it to Folsom22:20
vishyYorikSar: considering we have 1 week of ffe not sure it is worth it.22:20
YorikSarvishy: Yes, sure...22:20
vishyYorikSar: let me look at it though22:21
YorikSarvishy: btw, which drivers do that security setup? I cann't find one22:21
YorikSarvishy: I hope, in F we'll separate nova-volume from nova (to Lunr or Cinder or which one it is)22:22
bcwaldonjaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#patch,unified,4045,3,glance/registry/db/api.py22:23
bcwaldonjaypipes: line 26422:23
bcwaldonjaypipes: is that change correct?22:23
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vishyYorikSar: well none do it yet :)22:28
YorikSarvishy: I see only our oncoming NetApp one does somethig in initialize_connection.22:29
YorikSarvishy: But with Nexenta we've managed to prepare everything in export stage.22:30
Davieyanotherjesse: hey, keeping well sir?22:31
jaypipesbcwaldon: looks like justinsb needs to add a test for the desc order case...22:32
anotherjesseDaviey: yeah, as soon as we get the redux branch in we will have a story for openstack api & ec2 api auth :)  works in dashboard and cli22:32
jaypipesbcwaldon: I'll add a note. nice catch.22:32
bcwaldonok22:33
anotherjesseDaviey: you guys might want to review the dashboard & cli interaction with ec2 certs / secret/access pairs.  Is there someone on your team who leads api integration?22:33
jaypipesbcwaldon: done. added a note to justinsb22:35
Davieyanotherjesse: is that viable?22:36
DavieyI thought there was a Won't Fix, on exposing ec2 certs via osapi?22:36
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anotherjesseDaviey: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v1_1/certs.py <- client library22:37
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vishyYorikSar: modified to store lun in provider_location22:40
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justinsbjaypipes: Saw the review - do you think the logic is wrong, or just needs a test?  I wasn't sure what the old logic was trying to achieve, which is why it was a separate patch originally.  Sadly I had to merge them to get the unit tests to pass!22:46
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bcwaldonjustinsb: the old logic was correct in regards to ordering when no timestamps were identical22:48
bcwaldonjustinsb: bbias22:48
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anotherjesseayoung: around?22:50
justinsbbcwaldon: I thought you guys might be hinting at that... Looking again, I'm not sure the new logic or the old logic is right!22:50
kbringardso, I have a question about a potential inherent fatal flaw in the multi_host22:52
kbringardbut I wanted to know what people who are doubtlessly smarter than me had to say22:53
anotherjesseayoung: was wondering if you had time to write a small update on ldap with keystone redux merge prop (a few sentences)22:53
YorikSarvishy: Great! Thanks22:53
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ayounganotherjesse, yes, I'm here for 3 more minutes22:54
anotherjesseayoung: THANKS!22:56
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jaypipesjustinsb: either way, I think a test would prove one way or the other ;)22:57
anotherjessejustinsb: as a java dev - is there a pro/con for WADLs being served by the service (ala keystone legacy) or by docs.openstack.org (ala nova in essex)22:58
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bcwaldonjustinsb: I had to draw it out on a whiteboard to understand it fully, and I feel that adding 'or equal to' to each of the comparisons but preserving the direction will solve the issue at hand22:59
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justinsbanotherjesse: Well, the namespace shouldn't change.  Some clients actually take the namespace and resolve it, I'm not sure whether that's technically right but it happens.  So you need a canonical URL (docs.openstack.org), and it should probably be served at that URL.  You can have the services serve it up as well, for convenience; I expect it makes some point-and-click tools work better.  If you want to just do one, I'd se23:04
justinsbrve it from docs.openstack.org.  But this is going beyond my knowledge really - maybe ask jorge?23:04
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anotherjessejustinsb: right now each project does it differently… wanted to ask what practical impact it has on someone using wadls23:05
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annegentlejustinsb: generally my sense from Jorge is we'll serve namespace from docs.openstack.org, and it'll remain unchanged even with nova v2 api23:05
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annegentlejustinsb: by "it'll remain unchanged" I even mean that the v2 compute api will point to 1.1 namespace23:06
annegentlejustinsb: in order to support ecosystem of language bindings23:06
justinsbanotherjesse: I'm not sure - it'll depend on tooling.  I expect as long as the wadls are correct, people will be happy no matter where they get from.23:06
annegentlejustinsb: great input thanks23:06
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justinsbannegentle: But you're not going to change the v1.1 schema for v2, right?23:07
anotherjesseI'm not taking about the namespace, I'm talking about where the WADLs are served from23:07
anotherjessewhich might be the same thing, but I didn't think so23:07
justinsbanotherjesse: I know with schemas the confusion means that people try to fetch the schemas, so it's best that they're the same23:07
justinsbanotherjesse: Where people = tools23:07
justinsbanotherjesse: software tools, that is23:08
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anotherjessejustinsb: curl http://essex-kvm.rcb.me:5000/ (keystone legacy) returns a local address for the wadl23:08
anotherjessejustinsb: whereas nova returns docs.openstack.org once the merge lands (looking for prop)23:09
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annegentlewoops didn't mean to jump off23:10
mjforkdanwent: have a minute?23:10
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justinsbanotherjesse: I need to read up on the details of the WADL spec here.  The schemas look OK, because I don't think it is changing the namespaces there.  I think a schema should be available at the URL which is its namespace (docs.openstack.org here), to accommodate tools that believe that to be the case.23:11
justinsbanotherjesse: I guess it is convenient to also have the service serve the WADL; I would guess any good tool would default to the specified address but allow it to be easily overridden.23:12
bcwaldonjustinsb: biggest +1 to having the service serve the wadl is for building a wadl specific to enabled extensions23:13
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bcwaldonespecially for extensions that modify existing resources23:13
justinsbbcwaldon: Ah - good point.23:13
danwentmjfork:  sorry, in meeting.  can you send email?23:13
justinsbbcwaldon: I would love to see the code that figures out how to dynamically build a valid WADL23:14
mjforkdanwent: yes, just trying to understand why quantum_list_networks only contains ID and nothing else23:14
anotherjessebcwaldon: probably not a essex thing but it would be good to do the same thing in the core services23:15
bcwaldonanotherjesse: #agree23:16
danwentmjfork:  there are also network-details requests, though API library doesn't expose it yet (would be easy)23:16
mjforkok, so for now I will leave it to select from ID lsit?23:16
annegentlejustinsb: we do have a wadl normalizer tool available on github: https://github.com/rackspace/wadl-tools but yeah it feels like manual labor23:17
anotherjesseI know so little about wadl/xml that I don't know what best practices is - although service the wadl's applicable to the extensions on a cloud sounds valuable23:18
annegentlejustinsb: but, we're building http://api.openstack.org from wadl source files now - experimental, draft, etc.23:18
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justinsbHowever it is generated, I'd like to see a schema file that describes an element with an extension in a way that a binding tool can use.23:20
termiejeblair: we think it is time to roll the new merge prop, when do you htink you'll have time for that?23:21
termiejeblair: we have one outstanding docs change that is already approved and about to head in, https://review.openstack.org/#change,416623:21
termiejeblair: but we're holding off submitting anything else until review time23:22
termiejeblair, mtaylor: we also need to figure out how to convince you two to ninja in the devstack changes once megaprop is approved23:23
justinsbjaypipes, bcwaldon: On the paging logic, I don't understand it.  Suppose we're sorting by some random thing (image_coolness).  I get the first page, and the last image_id gets passed for page #2 as the marker.  What is the relevance of the created_time of the marker?  I can see using a timestamp of the sort, but the timestamp on that random element that happens to come at the end of the page seems irrelevant.23:23
bcwaldonwe need to have a consistent ordering for paging, so we chose toorder by arbitrary param, creation date, entity id23:24
bcwaldonwe need to allow for ties (hence the or equal to) to let the entity id have final say (since that is guaranteed unique23:25
justinsbbcwaldon: Ah!  I thought it was to stop us seeing 'new' entries that had been inserted after we started paging23:26
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justinsbbcwaldon: I will look again and maybe patch up the comments a little as well - thanks!23:26
bcwaldonok, good luck!23:26
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mattrayanyone familiar with the OSapi in diablo-stable?23:35
jeblairtermie: looks like that docs change has gone in.  i'll start on the merge commit in a few minutes.  let's let it go through the normal process, and when it fails on devstack, we'll push it through manually.  it should work again once both changes are merged (since we're running devstack redux on keystone redux)23:36
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hogepodgeIs there anyone with Horizon experience around?23:50
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mjforkgrabbed a new devstack with quantum enabled and get an invalid service catalog service network .. is devstack behind or do i have something else going on?23:53
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mtaylorjaypipes: ping23:55
anotherjessemtaylor/jaypipes: can you review the email before we send it?23:55
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