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| mtaylor | jkoelker: ping | 14:25 |
| mtaylor | markmc: totally agree re: openstack-common patch - fixing all of that right now | 14:33 |
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| mtaylor | markmc: btw - I think the current update.py in openstack-common is great | 14:37 |
| markmc | mtaylor, cool | 14:37 |
| markmc | mtaylor, vish wants to discuss potentially using git submodules | 14:38 |
| markmc | mtaylor, I'm gonna look into it, but any time I've come across submodules before it was a bit painful | 14:38 |
| markmc | mtaylor, but anyway, update.py is better than what we had before :) | 14:38 |
| mtaylor | markmc: I agree - I'd like to be in that discussion | 14:39 |
| mtaylor | markmc: with a similar pov - submodules work well, but you have to undestand more about git | 14:39 |
| markmc | mtaylor, yeah | 14:40 |
| * markmc isn't functioning well enough today after fosdem to look into submodules :) | 14:40 | |
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| mtaylor | no, I'd imagine not :)( | 14:40 |
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| mtaylor | markmc: I have a todo list item to investigate what commits to a parent module that update the submodule rev look like in gerrit | 14:42 |
| markmc | mtaylor, cool | 14:43 |
| mtaylor | markmc: although honestly I for everything other than the setup.py helper functions, we can treat openstack-common like a normal lib in pip-requires | 14:43 |
| mtaylor | markmc: the setup.py helper functions are the bits where we get into a chicken and egg problem | 14:43 |
| markmc | mtaylor, we can only do that for APIs that have stabilized | 14:44 |
| markmc | mtaylor, that's what this openstack-common incubator idea is about | 14:44 |
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| mtaylor | totally | 14:48 |
| mtaylor | markmc: well, I mean, we _can_ do git pip urls with specific version pinning - but I'm not sure that's better or worse than submodules | 14:49 |
| markmc | mtaylor, how would packagers deal with that? | 14:49 |
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| mtaylor | markmc: I guess I was thinking for during-dev-cycle ... but yeah, the update.py approach I think is actually solving the problem better :) | 14:50 |
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| markmc | mtaylor, cool, thanks | 14:50 |
| mtaylor | markmc: ok, I updated the openstack-common patch and added a new one | 14:51 |
| Daviey | markmc: I didn't get to grab you like i wanted to. | 14:51 |
| Daviey | hmm, that might have come out wrong. | 14:52 |
| markmc | hehe | 14:52 |
| Daviey | markmc: Anyway, it was good to see you. | 14:52 |
| markmc | Daviey, you too; what's up? | 14:52 |
| Daviey | markmc: Nothing of urgency, just wanted to discuss the stable tree with you in person. | 14:52 |
| Daviey | kinda failed at that... :) | 14:53 |
| markmc | Daviey, this is about having stable-maint covering non-core modules? | 14:53 |
| Daviey | markmc: Yes, and the EOL'ing of the branches. | 14:54 |
| markmc | Daviey, so, I've been covering nova and glance for diablo; are you talking about covering the other modules yourself? | 14:54 |
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| Daviey | markmc: I haven't exactly carried my weight with the nova stable reviews this cycle, i know. It's my intention to do more this cycle - and i'm feeling there will be more contributors. | 14:56 |
| markmc | Daviey, I hope so, we'll have keystone and horizon stable/essex even if we still stick to core modules | 14:57 |
| Daviey | markmc: I'd need to discuss viability with the project leads before answering your question Yes or No TBH | 14:57 |
| Daviey | markmc: What do you think about a fortnightly meeting? | 14:59 |
| markmc | Daviey, sounds great | 15:00 |
| markmc | Daviey, are you going to set that up? | 15:01 |
| Daviey | markmc: can do. | 15:02 |
| Daviey | markmc: happyier with a daylight slot, rather than an evening one? | 15:02 |
| markmc | Daviey, yeah, I'd struggle to commit to an evening one | 15:02 |
| Daviey | great | 15:02 |
| markmc | Daviey, but if west coast/asia folks express interest, I'd be happy to move it | 15:02 |
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| Daviey | markmc: sounds good. | 15:03 |
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| jkoelker | mtaylor: here now, | 15:30 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: hey! so, I'm workingon getting tox stuff ported into things, and I'm hitting openstack-nose issue in openstack.common | 15:37 |
| jkoelker | ah, i'm looing at those merges now ;) | 15:37 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: great- I just slightly upated them ... | 15:38 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: but if you pull 3804 and run tox, you'll see a ContextSuite error | 15:38 |
| jkoelker | ah i think i see it | 15:39 |
| jkoelker | in test_utils.py | 15:39 |
| mtaylor | yeah? excellent | 15:40 |
| jkoelker | yea, since the name setup is defined, nosetests is thinging that function is a context suite for that file | 15:40 |
| jkoelker | (tox is still running, but that's my guess ;) | 15:42 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: AHA. ok, so I should not use setup as the name of that | 15:43 |
| jkoelker | yea, for the tests I would import it as setup<something> | 15:43 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: cool. will fix and re-push | 15:43 |
| jkoelker | i think that will get nose to ignore it | 15:44 |
| jkoelker | on a side note, do you know if there is a merge job for openstack.nose_plugin? | 15:44 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: no, but lemme look | 15:44 |
| jkoelker | i have a patch that *might* be more lenient on these things, but it never merged, (and I've been too lazy to follow up ;) | 15:45 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: updated patches pushed | 15:46 |
| mtaylor | brb with answers on openstack.nose_plugin | 15:46 |
| jkoelker | rock on, looks like that wasn't it either, I'll keep digging | 15:47 |
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| jkoelker | mtaylor: https://review.openstack.org/#change,2909 yea, that patch will allow it to pass | 15:53 |
| jkoelker | in the nose_plugin | 15:53 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: awesome. I will get a job in there :) | 15:54 |
| jkoelker | cools, once I see it trigger, I'll push to pypi as well | 15:55 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: should have landed now :) | 15:57 |
| mtaylor | jkoelker: ooh, I suppose I can change the pip-requires files back to just using openstack.nose instead of the git url | 15:58 |
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| jkoelker | mtaylor, is your pypi username mtaylor as well? all add you on there to be able to manage it as well | 15:59 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: sdirector | 15:59 |
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| jaypipes | mtaylor: you on a plane? | 16:03 |
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| mtaylor | jaypipes: I am | 16:05 |
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| mtaylor | jkoelker: ok. I've verified that the new change worked and I've rebased all of the openstack-common changes appropriately | 16:06 |
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| mtaylor | jaypipes: I could have access to it if I spun up the hpcs vpn | 16:07 |
| jkoelker | cools, i'll review them right after standup | 16:08 |
| mtaylor | jaypipes: I have no voice in their org,, no authority, and they don't listen to me when I make suggestions | 16:09 |
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| mtaylor | dammit | 16:09 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: well that will have to change :) | 16:10 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: whoever that org happens to be.. | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/python-quantumclient failed: Freeze tested requirements in tarball. https://review.openstack.org/3808 | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/python-quantumclient failed: Freeze tested requirements in tarball. https://review.openstack.org/3808 | 16:46 |
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| kbringard | quick ?, what's the best mailing list to send stuff to about dev questions? | 18:01 |
| deshantm | the quick answer is the main openstack list, but there are a number of team/project-specific lists too | 18:03 |
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| andrewbogott | sleepsonthefloor: Did you learn anything else about if/why volume creation is broken in devstack? | 18:04 |
| kbringard | deshantm: what would be the "main" one? the announce one? | 18:04 |
| andrewbogott | kbringard: It's called 'openstack' :) http://wiki.openstack.org/MailingLists | 18:05 |
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| ogelbukh | kbringard: it's openstack@lists.launchpad.net | 18:05 |
| kbringard | oh, I'm an idiot | 18:05 |
| kbringard | reading is hard | 18:06 |
| kbringard | thanks guy | 18:06 |
| kbringard | s | 18:06 |
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| paulormg | any swift dev around? | 18:24 |
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| jaypipes | paulormg: you might ping notmyname, redbo or chmouel | 18:26 |
| paulormg | jaypipes, thanks! | 18:27 |
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| paulormg | notmyname, redbo, chmouel: hey guys, I'm proposing a distributed content addressable storage for my master thesis, and will probably implement that on the top of swift | 18:32 |
| paulormg | this will enable objects (or even blocks) to be de-duplicated, what may save lots of storage space | 18:33 |
| paulormg | I'm still in the conceptual phase, so just letting you know about the idea in case you are interested and want to provide some feedback, etc | 18:34 |
| paulormg | it will mostly be a feature which can be enabled or disabled by the admin, since it may add some overhead but in charge it can reduce storage space | 18:34 |
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| notmyname | paulormg: cool. let us know if you have any questions | 19:11 |
| notmyname | paulormg: are you planning on implementing this on top of swift? | 19:11 |
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| paulormg | notmyname, yeah, I'm planning to implement as a pluggable feature, so it can hopefully be integrated into swift | 19:13 |
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| notmyname | paulormg: great. I look forward to your contributions. I'm curious if you will be able to maintain swift's ability to do object GETs without a metadata lookup (a bottleneck in large clusters) | 19:14 |
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| notmyname | paulormg: you may also search the mailing list (if you haven't already seen it) for some things that Nexenta is doing. I haven't seen much code, but they've described similar things. Search for "Caitlin Bestler", and you may want to contact her about it | 19:15 |
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| paulormg | notmyname, probably there will be one additional hop, to convert object-ID to object digests, but I plan to store the metadata itself in the ring, so the metadata lookup will also scale as the cluster grows (hopefully) | 19:17 |
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| paulormg | notmyname, thanks, I will have a look in the mailing list | 19:18 |
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| justinsb | What's the process for submitting a devstack patch? gerrit or github? (gerrit gave me an error) | 20:19 |
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| andrewbogott | justinsb: http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow | 20:21 |
| andrewbogott | so, 'git review' -- but you have to do a bit of setup first. | 20:21 |
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| justinsb | andrewbogott: Thanks - I'll check I didn't miss a step here. I just didn't know if the same process was supposed to work for devstack! | 20:22 |
| andrewbogott | oh... sorry, I didn't read your question properly. I have no idea for devstack :( | 20:23 |
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| justinsb | I think you're right though ... I've found some other devstack patches in gerrit so it looks like PEBKAC | 20:24 |
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| dtroyer | eglynn: ping | 20:33 |
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| vishy | justinsb: yes it is gerrit | 20:44 |
| justinsb | vishy: Thanks - I think I need to be part of the devstack team on launchpad, so I've applied to be part of that. | 20:45 |
| justinsb | vishy: It's an embarrassingly trivial patch anyway | 20:46 |
| justinsb | vishy: It's to pass the network arguments to network create | 20:47 |
| justinsb | vishy: This networking config "works for me" BTW, whereas I've struggled to get anything else working | 20:47 |
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| termie | win 1 | 20:53 |
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| ewindisch | I can now get VMs into a build state with the zeromq driver. Just a bit more polish... | 20:56 |
| termie | soren: pstats is a stdlib package in python, so some third-party libraries we are using expect it to be there | 20:56 |
| termie | soren: so my options are either "somehow install python-profiler on ubuntu" or "replace third party library" | 20:56 |
| termie | soren: my thoughts were there teh former might be easier than the latter | 20:56 |
| kbringard | anyone have a good keystone admin API guide for things like, adding/editing users, tenants, etc? | 20:57 |
| kbringard | it seems it's possible because horizon does it, but I figured if there was a guide it'd be easier than looking at the dash code to see what it's doing :-) | 20:57 |
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| kbringard | AH, OS-KSADM | 21:25 |
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| kbringard | http://docs.rackspace.com/openstack-extensions/auth/OS-KSADM-admin-devguide/content/Admin_API_Service_Developer_Operations-d1e1357.html | 21:30 |
| kbringard | in case anyone else was wondering :-) | 21:30 |
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| annegentle | kbringard: love how you answer your own questions :) | 21:39 |
| kbringard | haha, I ask but I keep researching :-) | 21:39 |
| kbringard | I try not to leave it hanging in case someone else was wondering the same thing :-) | 21:40 |
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| kbringard | BTW, this is the top level url: http://docs.rackspace.com/openstack-extensions/auth/OS-KSADM-admin-devguide/content/index.html | 21:40 |
| kbringard | lots of good info in there | 21:40 |
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| termie | jeblair_, mtaylor: could one of you update either devstack redux or keystone redux or both? | 23:57 |
| termie | we fixed our code, but it required changes on both branches | 23:57 |
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| termie | and it looks like devstack redux is pulling keystone redux | 23:57 |
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| termie | jeblair_: i have a merge prop open, but i had to squash vish and anthony's changes to submit it, so it would be nice to just suck in those direct from the cloudbuilders/devstack ksl branch | 23:59 |
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