jog0 | vishy, when it comes to packaging, it sounds like the concern is stepping on companies toes in the openstack space. So why not get feedback from companies in the openstack space before making a decision? | 00:00 |
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rmk | I think regardless of which direction things go with distro packages, there's absolutely a need for point releases so we can at least speak the same language when referencing issues/docs/etcd. | 00:00 |
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rmk | comstud: http://www.rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-two-python.html, check out the section on message durability | 00:01 |
rmk | "Two things are required to make sure that messages aren't lost: we need to mark both the queue and messages as durable." | 00:01 |
rmk | Sounds like the former is there but not sure about the latter. | 00:02 |
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jog0 | rmk, I agree with the point releases, even if they are just as simple as release dates | 00:04 |
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rmk | Yeah, don't care at all what the versioning schema is. | 00:04 |
novas0x2a|laptop | jog0: with my piston hat on, if there were official releases we'd almost certainly use them (but we probably wouldn't care about specific ppas) | 00:08 |
novas0x2a|laptop | with my open source community member hat on, there's no way i'd get involved in a project of this magnitude unless there were working packages, because i'd have to install and play with it before i'd ever start contributing, and the barrier to entry of the current situation (even with devstack) would be higher than i'd bother with | 00:08 |
rmk | Exactly right. | 00:09 |
rmk | btw, I think there should be packages as well, when our business is modeled around openstack | 00:09 |
rmk | and making sure it's stable | 00:09 |
* Kiall shouldnt have turned on the laptop.. | 00:09 | |
Kiall | this convo still going? ;) | 00:09 |
rmk | Kiall: It's IRC, conversations go for days/hours with massive gaps inbetween :) | 00:10 |
rmk | The whole syn/ack process can BE days sometimes | 00:10 |
novas0x2a|laptop | haha, yeah | 00:10 |
novas0x2a|laptop | irc is async! | 00:10 |
rmk | It's odd for chat but true | 00:10 |
openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova. https://review.openstack.org/1879 | 00:14 |
novas0x2a|laptop | so, to summarize my position, openstack needs to do point releases and packaging because it's the only thing that will bolster the open source side of the contributor base (due to my reasoning above); it's not terrible if every contributor is a employee of an ecosystem company, but it makes for a healthier ecosystem if there are people in it whose motives can't be conflated with any one company's :) | 00:17 |
mtaylor | novas0x2a|laptop: ++ | 00:19 |
jog0 | novas0x2a|laptop: ++ | 00:19 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Washenberger proposed a change to openstack/nova: Make run_instance only support instance uuids. https://review.openstack.org/1956 | 00:19 |
novas0x2a|laptop | that's probably the closest i'll ever get to a standing ovation on irc | 00:20 |
novas0x2a|laptop | lol | 00:20 |
Kiall | novas0x2a|laptop, I was quietly booing | 00:22 |
Kiall | ;) | 00:22 |
novas0x2a|laptop | aww ._. | 00:22 |
novas0x2a|laptop | hehe | 00:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Set sane defaults, get config info from localrc https://review.openstack.org/1955 | 00:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Voccio proposed a change to openstack/python-novaclient: adding the keystone module to setup.py https://review.openstack.org/1957 | 01:58 |
openstackgerrit | Paul Voccio proposed a change to openstack/python-novaclient: Add 'discover' command for Keystone discovery and version listing https://review.openstack.org/1825 | 01:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated testing https://review.openstack.org/1918 | 02:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Justin Shepherd proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixes bug lp:897819 https://review.openstack.org/1945 | 02:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #896997: nova-vncproxy's flash socket policy port is not configurable https://review.openstack.org/1912 | 03:50 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 896997 in nova "nova-vncproxy's flash socket policy port is not configurable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/896997 | 03:50 |
openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fix typo: priviledges -> privileges. https://review.openstack.org/1959 | 03:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Duncan McGreggor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova. https://review.openstack.org/1879 | 04:31 |
rmk | vishy: Got a minute or two to answer some nova-network HA questions? | 04:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Yogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug-897724: Added method to list endpoints specific to a service and related tests. https://review.openstack.org/1960 | 05:06 |
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openstackgerrit | sanjay-tripathi proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#891552 Append the documentation with Nova CLI commands. https://review.openstack.org/1754 | 07:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack/nova: Remove unused ec2.action_args https://review.openstack.org/1962 | 08:37 |
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network-os | anybody knows how the default gateway for the vm's are configured ? | 10:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove dependency on django-mailer https://review.openstack.org/1963 | 11:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixes bug 767947 https://review.openstack.org/1964 | 11:31 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 767947 in nova "start of new instance not possible after restarting libvirtd" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767947 | 11:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Alvaro Lopez proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixes bug 767947 https://review.openstack.org/1964 | 11:32 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 767947 in nova "start of new instance not possible after restarting libvirtd" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767947 | 11:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix templates installation https://review.openstack.org/1965 | 13:39 |
openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix sys.path in WSGI file https://review.openstack.org/1966 | 13:42 |
openstackgerrit | david-perez5 proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixing snapshot failure task_state https://review.openstack.org/1967 | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | therese-mchale proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fixes bug 898169 https://review.openstack.org/1968 | 14:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898169 in swift "Ring load is slow: use bufferedio with gzipfile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898169 | 14:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/nova: Remove autogenerated pot file https://review.openstack.org/1969 | 14:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated testing https://review.openstack.org/1918 | 14:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed a change to openstack/glance: Fixes LP Bug#861650 - Glance client deps https://review.openstack.org/1619 | 14:41 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Washenberger proposed a change to openstack/nova: Make run_instance only support instance uuids. https://review.openstack.org/1956 | 14:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type https://review.openstack.org/1972 | 15:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Naveed Massjouni proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixing get_info method implementations in virt drivers to accept instance_name instead of instance_id. The abstract class virt.ComputeDriver defines get_info as: def get_info(self, instance_name). blueprint: internal-uuids https://review.openstack.org/1950 | 16:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Eliminated debug output from sphinx_build (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1973 | 16:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 16:13 |
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jaypipes | QA IRC meeting starting in 5 minutes on #openstack-meeting | 16:24 |
jaypipes | QA IRC meeting starting in 33 minutes on #openstack-meeting (sorry for the messup) | 16:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Yogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug-897724: Added method to list endpoints specific to a service and related tests. https://review.openstack.org/1960 | 16:30 |
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jaypipes | zul: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1619 is off to the test pit. If all passes, that packaging branch from yesterday you had tee'd up will need to go in immediately after. | 16:33 |
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zul | jaypipes: k | 16:33 |
jaypipes | zul: OK, all passed.; | 16:34 |
zul | jaypipes: should already be there | 16:35 |
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jaypipes | zul: thank you sir | 16:39 |
zul | jaypipes: np | 16:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type https://review.openstack.org/1972 | 17:01 |
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dolphm_ | is there a git command to *intentionally* put yourself in an unnamed branch / detached head? | 17:24 |
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notmyname | dolphm_: it's easy to do, but generally is a side effect of doing something else (ie you don't do it directly) | 17:28 |
Kiall | dolphm_: yea, just checkout some revision # | 17:28 |
openstackgerrit | Aaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type https://review.openstack.org/1972 | 17:28 |
dolphm_ | Kiall: thanks! | 17:28 |
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dolphm_ | Kiall: i wish it was more like `git checkout master && git detach` though :) | 17:29 |
kbringard | anyone familiar with the "d5" repo here: http://ops.monkeypuppetlabs.com/packages/ | 17:30 |
kbringard | ? | 17:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added ssl docs to index; fixed rst syntax (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1974 | 17:30 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 17:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax in doc strings (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1975 | 17:31 |
openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Improved doc formatting consistency (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1976 | 17:31 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 17:31 |
openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1977 | 17:32 |
dolphm_ | Kiall: now look what you taught me ^^ :P | 17:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated docstring to match auth_token.py (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1978 | 17:39 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Revised schema migration docs https://review.openstack.org/1979 | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Naveed Massjouni proposed a change to openstack/nova: Replacing instance id's in in xenapi.vmops and the xen plugin with instance uuids. The only references to instance id's left are calls to the wait_for_task() method. I will address that in another branch. blueprint: internal-uuids https://review.openstack.org/1980 | 17:40 |
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annegentle | is anyone doing a roundup of Compute API extensions that should become Core in a certain timeframe? | 17:43 |
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annegentle | in the QA meeting they noticed a consoles command for the Compute API that is not in the contrib dir… just wondering what the timeline is for moving extensions to core. | 17:44 |
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dolphm | kbringard: we didn't have a d5, did we? | 17:48 |
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kbringard | dolphm: I don't think officially, but my assumption was that it was someone's "custom" repo of the diablo-backports branch | 17:49 |
kbringard | that's why I was asking | 17:50 |
kbringard | Dell's crowbar uses that repo to install from… I'm interested in using crowbar, but I want to validate where my bits are coming from as best I can :-D | 17:50 |
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Kiall | kbringard: I'm guessing its some dell employee's repo.. | 17:53 |
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Kiall | Monkey Puppet Labs doesnt sound like a dell brand to me ;) | 17:53 |
kbringard | yea, could be… I asked on the Crowbar mailing list too | 17:53 |
kbringard | but I figured I may get a quicker answer here if anyone knew | 17:53 |
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pixelbeat | a quick gerrit question | 18:04 |
pixelbeat | If I have more than one patch in a set, how do I submit them | 18:05 |
pixelbeat | will rfc.sh send all automatically? | 18:05 |
nati2 | git commit -a -amend :) | 18:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Waldon proposed a change to openstack/nova: Move users and accounts from OSAPI into Admin API https://review.openstack.org/1954 | 18:07 |
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rmk | So, anyone want to talk nova-network HA setups? | 18:16 |
rmk | I've got a concept at this point but wanted to trade notes. | 18:16 |
pixelbeat | nati2, So I have to do each patch individually? | 18:17 |
pixelbeat | how does gerrit coalesce them? | 18:17 |
nati2 | pixelbeat: No paches sould be go to same review. If you do git commit -a -amend, you can send new patch for same review | 18:18 |
openstackjenkins | Project nova-docs build #1,690: SUCCESS in 2 min 58 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1690/ | 18:18 |
openstackjenkins | brian.waldon: Convert compute manager delete methods to objects | 18:18 |
pixelbeat | nati2, Oh wow, yuckity | 18:19 |
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jeblair | soren: ping | 18:25 |
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markmc | pixelbeat, rfc.sh will submit each patch as a review | 18:44 |
markmc | pixelbeat, if you've a series of patches well separated for a reason, go for it | 18:44 |
markmc | pixelbeat, if they're completely separate, make a topic branch for each and rfc each branch individually | 18:44 |
jeblair | pixelbeat: on the other hand, if you have a series of commits that are really one change, you should squash them yourself before commiting them. see http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow#Long-lived_Topic_Branches for how to do that | 18:45 |
markmc | pixelbeat, the squashing recommendation is where you have checkpoint commits, rather than cleanly separated commits | 18:45 |
pixelbeat | They're cleaning separated commits | 18:45 |
markmc | yeah, thought so :) | 18:45 |
pixelbeat | But relating to a single bug/topic | 18:46 |
markmc | if they depend on each, just rfc.sh them and gerrit will show the dependency tree (badly) | 18:46 |
jeblair | i need to shutdown gerrit for a few minutes in order to perform the rename of openstack-integration-tests to tempest. should only be briefly unavailable. | 18:46 |
rmk | comstud: Don't suppose you had a chance to look at the link I sent yesterday to validate whether messages and queues are duable when the nova flag is set? | 18:47 |
pixelbeat | thanks markmc, jeblair I'll hold off for a while so | 18:47 |
comstud | rmk: i missed your link somehow... | 18:48 |
rmk | comstud: Link basically confirms there's a distinction between durable queues and messages. | 18:49 |
rmk | And that message durability needs to be set on a duable queue for a message to ultimate be durable. | 18:49 |
comstud | rmk: I'll look back in my logs | 18:49 |
rmk | I haven't gone through the code, so I was curious whether the nova duability flag implied both. | 18:49 |
comstud | rmk: ATM, it's not anything i'm focused on. I'm more concerned you're having issues needing to restart compute when rabbit restarts | 18:49 |
comstud | but I can think of a case where that's necessary and it's not a rabbit problem | 18:50 |
comstud | it's a nova messaging problem | 18:50 |
rmk | comstud: nods - we're working on getting more data about that and reproducable steps | 18:50 |
comstud | ok | 18:50 |
jeblair | gerrit is back up | 18:51 |
Tribaal | hey devs, I just noticed how KVM's shutdown() call on guests only works when the guest has the acpi demon installed. Are there any plans to do shutdown() + wait instead of destroy() in nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py:543 ? | 18:51 |
Tribaal | I'll glady hack something together otherwise | 18:51 |
Tribaal | oh sorry I mean line 546 | 18:53 |
Tribaal | and I meant libvirt instead of KVM :/ | 18:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Support rsyslog and RELP protocol https://review.openstack.org/1981 | 18:55 |
Tribaal | but I'm sure you get the idea | 18:55 |
openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname https://review.openstack.org/1982 | 18:55 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898290 | 18:55 |
jeblair | jaypipes: i believe the rename to tempest is complete, at least on gerrit and github. | 18:55 |
jeblair | jaypipes: i need to coordinate with soren to get the LP project renamed | 18:56 |
jeblair | jaypipes: give it a once over and see if things look good | 18:56 |
jaypipes | jeblair: will do. | 18:57 |
jeblair | jaypipes: i'm about to propose a change to the .gitreview file reflecting the rename. | 18:57 |
openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Support rsyslog and RELP protocol https://review.openstack.org/1981 | 18:58 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Update .gitreview with new project name. https://review.openstack.org/1983 | 18:59 |
jeblair | jaypipes: probably a good idea to approve that review, then tell devs to re-clone their repos from github | 19:00 |
jaypipes | jeblair: I lgtm'd | 19:01 |
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jeblair | (or if not re-clone, manually pull from the new location, then run "git remote rm gerrit") | 19:01 |
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jeblair | jaypipes: jenkins job is updated, and it's merged now | 19:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname https://review.openstack.org/1982 | 19:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898290 | 19:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Yogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from additional middleware that used to support /extensions call.ie RAX https://review.openstack.org/1891 | 19:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Yogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug #890801 Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from additional middleware that used to support /extensions https://review.openstack.org/1891 | 19:18 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 890801 in keystone "GET /extensions returns an empty list" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890801 | 19:18 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/openstack-ci: Add docs on renaming a project in gerrit. https://review.openstack.org/1984 | 19:21 |
jaypipes | jeblair: thx man! | 19:25 |
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zul | does anyone know when melange is moving to gerrit? | 19:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname https://review.openstack.org/1982 | 19:44 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898290 | 19:44 |
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rohitagarwalla | zul: read in yesterday's quantum meeting...3pm CST today | 19:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Joe Breu proposed a change to openstack/nova: Updates simple schedule to honor strict availability_zone scheduling of new instances https://review.openstack.org/1986 | 20:01 |
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soren | jeblair: wassup? | 20:12 |
jeblair | soren: hi, can you ask the lp admins to rename openstack-integration-tests to tempest? | 20:12 |
jeblair | soren: i registered a 'tempest' project, so we'll also need to ask them to delete that | 20:13 |
jeblair | soren: (you're the maintainer of openstack-integration-tests, so i figured the request should probably come from you). i set the maintainer of tempest to openstack-admins, you can set it to yourself if that would make things simpler. but they'll probably believe you. :) | 20:13 |
openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1977 | 20:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 20:14 |
soren | jeblair: I'll take care of it. | 20:14 |
jeblair | soren: thanks! | 20:14 |
soren | jeblair: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/180541 | 20:16 |
jeblair | soren: great | 20:17 |
soren | jeblair: Is there any urgency? | 20:18 |
soren | jeblair: I can pull some strings, but if there's no urgency, I'd rather just let it be. | 20:18 |
jeblair | soren: no urgency | 20:19 |
soren | jeblair: Cool. | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixes a number of configuration/startup bugs https://review.openstack.org/1936 | 20:42 |
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anotherjesse | jaypipes: regarding adding a test - http://qa.openstack.org/integration.html#adding-a-new-integration-test | 20:56 |
anotherjesse | if I want to test something like: kill rabbit, wait a few minutes then restart it - and make sure things "settle down" (to be defined) | 20:56 |
anotherjesse | is that something that I should be able to add to "tempest" | 20:56 |
jaypipes | anotherjesse: that would not be something that would be in the tempest folder, no... that's kind of what nati is doing with his StackMonkey project... | 20:57 |
anotherjesse | is the idea that eventually stackmonkey would be a subset of tempest | 20:57 |
anotherjesse | or is it forever alone | 20:57 |
jaypipes | anotherjesse: since that is more of a white-box testing thing (since you are using knowledge of internal implementation of Nova -- i.e. that Rabbit is critical) | 20:57 |
openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added JSON validator; fixed samples (bug 898353) https://review.openstack.org/1987 | 20:58 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898353 in keystone "JSON samples are (frequently) invalid" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898353 | 20:58 |
jaypipes | anotherjesse: StackMonkey is more just the project that allows you to easily kill important processes and wreak havoc :) I would imagine that someone would want to run some set of standard functional integration tests (tempest), trigger failures via StackMonkey during that test run, and see what happens. | 20:59 |
openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added JSON validator; fixed samples (bug 898353) https://review.openstack.org/1987 | 21:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898353 in keystone "JSON samples are (frequently) invalid" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898353 | 21:00 |
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jaypipes | anotherjesse: so, the tempest *project* may contain a number of test suites (functional, integration, whitebox, blackbox, stress/capacity, etc). However within the /tempest directory in the tempest project, that's where we are currently keeping only blackbox functional and integration tests. | 21:01 |
jaypipes | anotherjesse: other test suites (whitebox, stress, etc) may be added in the tempest *project*, just in a wholly separate directory... | 21:01 |
jaypipes | anotherjesse: that answer your question? sorry, it's a bit confusing still. | 21:02 |
anotherjesse | heh - makes sense | 21:02 |
dolphm | jeblair: mtaylor: I added an argument to run_tests.sh to validate our JSON -- can we make it a gating job? I'm tired of people complaining about syntax errors in our docs lol | 21:03 |
dolphm | ( https://review.openstack.org/#change,1987 ) | 21:03 |
kbringard | so for anyone who was wondering (and to follow up my earlier question) the ops.monkeypuppetlabs.com repo are Rackspace's cloud builders repos | 21:03 |
openstackjenkins | Project nova-docs build #1,691: SUCCESS in 3 min 20 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1691/ | 21:04 |
openstackjenkins | ewan.mellor: Fix typo: priviledges -> privileges. | 21:04 |
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jeblair | dolphm: probably; i'm working on moving melange to gerrit right now, lemme get back to you in a bit (if mtaylor doesn't first) | 21:05 |
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dolphm | jeblair: no rush, it's still in merge prop ;) | 21:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Brad Hall proposed a change to openstack/quantum: Fix lp bug 897882 https://review.openstack.org/1988 | 21:12 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 897882 in quantum "Command 'egg' not found for quantum when running install_venv.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897882 | 21:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Ewan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname https://review.openstack.org/1982 | 21:15 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898290 | 21:15 |
openstackgerrit | Aaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type https://review.openstack.org/1972 | 21:19 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/melange: Gavri/Rajaram|Added api documentation from the wiki https://review.openstack.org/1989 | 21:26 |
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openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/melange: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool. https://review.openstack.org/1990 | 21:29 |
openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool. https://review.openstack.org/1990 | 21:29 |
openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool. https://review.openstack.org/1990 | 21:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool. https://review.openstack.org/1990 | 21:33 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/openstack-ci-puppet: Close pull requests for melange and tempest. https://review.openstack.org/1991 | 21:35 |
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kbringard | is it expected behaviour that setting —my_ip in the nova.conf overrides the routing_source? | 21:46 |
kbringard | my_ip keeps getting set to my internal interface, but then it makes the nova-network-snat chain use the internal IP as its routing source instead of the external IP | 21:47 |
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kbringard | and breaks SNAT for VMs with no floater | 21:47 |
openstackjenkins | Project nova-docs build #1,692: SUCCESS in 3 min 18 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1692/ | 21:49 |
openstackjenkins | aaron.lee: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type | 21:49 |
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tr3buchet | annegentle: change that affects docs was just merged: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1972 | 21:53 |
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annegentle | tr3buchet: thanks, how are you going to resource that doc task? | 21:54 |
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tr3buchet | annegentle: i haven't really planned on it yet. I need to know what you need. | 21:57 |
* annegentle reads more | 21:58 | |
annegentle | tr3buchet: so this is the "bring on v2 API" merge? | 21:58 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: or is this an extension addition? | 21:59 |
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tr3buchet | annegentle: just the extension, i'll refer you to wwkeyboard for any other specifics | 22:19 |
wwkeyboard | annegentle: It's a modification to flavors, rxtx_cap and rxtx_quota are replaced with rxtx_factor | 22:20 |
* annegentle does some more digging | 22:20 | |
mtaylor | jaypipes: ping | 22:20 |
openstackgerrit | Josh Kearney proposed a change to openstack/nova: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls. https://review.openstack.org/1992 | 22:21 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: one sec... | 22:22 |
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annegentle | tr3buchet: and wwkeyboard: ok, the only place where rxtx_cap is used now as an example is in the OpenStack Starter Guide, so I'll log a bug against their trunk so they know to pick up the change. | 22:27 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: I really would like more visibility into when extensions become core… do you have an eye on that? | 22:28 |
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tr3buchet | annegentle: like am i watching which are becoming core? or the process? | 22:32 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: more along the lines of, what's the process? | 22:32 |
openstackgerrit | p-draigbrady proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#898257 abstract out disk image access methods https://review.openstack.org/1993 | 22:33 |
tr3buchet | annegentle: bcwalden can tell you all about it | 22:33 |
openstackgerrit | p-draigbrady proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#898257 support handling images with libguestfs https://review.openstack.org/1994 | 22:33 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: ok, thanks… the process helps with doc process since that's also poorly executed now | 22:34 |
tr3buchet | yeah | 22:35 |
tr3buchet | annegentle: as far as I know it's bascially just agreed upon somehow that extension become core. i'm not sure what begs the question leading to the agreement however | 22:35 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: yeah I have gotten a decent overview before but it's just not happening and I'm not sure why (it being movement from extension into core). | 22:36 |
tr3buchet | annegentle: I do remember there being specific talks at the summit about which should become core, so maybe it's just something decided in person at the summits | 22:36 |
annegentle | tr3buchet: but yeah, these are bcwaldon Qs :) | 22:36 |
tr3buchet | yeah | 22:36 |
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dolphm | is gerrit down? | 22:44 |
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Kiall | dolphm: nope | 22:49 |
openstackjenkins | Project nova-docs build #1,693: SUCCESS in 3 min 23 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1693/ | 22:49 |
openstackjenkins | Josh Kearney: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls. | 22:49 |
Kiall | it does that for me all the time... | 22:49 |
Kiall | first attempt or two to hit the page always fails | 22:49 |
dolphm | Kiall: i tried a few times, and it wouldn't respond... finally popped up (never happened to me before) | 22:50 |
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zaitcev | Does anyone happen to know where to get so-called "git-review" for Fedora? The Gerrit wokflow refers to it. | 22:52 |
zaitcev | git: 'review' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. | 22:52 |
zaitcev | Gluster people have their own in-tree shell script that posts to Gerrit, so they do not ask to install anything. If we have something like that, it would be fine too. | 22:53 |
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kpepple | did the openstack integration tests repo get moved on github ? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-integration-tests just 404s .... | 22:56 |
Kiall | zaitcev: the first command on the workflow page says how to install it ;) | 22:56 |
Kiall | `pip install git-review` | 22:56 |
zaitcev | Perhaps I was not explicit enough about working on Fedora. | 22:59 |
Kiall | pip is a python command.. | 23:00 |
Kiall | I presume its installed with "yum install python-pip" | 23:01 |
zaitcev | Oh, that works. | 23:01 |
Kiall | ;) | 23:01 |
Kiall | I guess the assumption is made that anyone hacking on openstack knows python, and anyone who knows python knows pip | 23:01 |
zaitcev | Indeed. | 23:02 |
Kiall | Its a wiki.. worth an edit ;) | 23:02 |
zaitcev | And that everyone who does is not afraid of some unpackaged stuff in their filesystems that pip is likely to install. | 23:02 |
Kiall | Yea - I know that feeling ;) | 23:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls. https://review.openstack.org/1992 | 23:06 |
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kpepple | ahhh ... we made the openstack-integration-test to tempest name change. got it. | 23:18 |
vishy | markmc: ping | 23:20 |
markmc | vishy, hey | 23:21 |
markmc | vishy, perfect timing, I was just going to bed :) | 23:21 |
vishy | so I am about to look at your config stuff | 23:21 |
vishy | I just wanted to ask a pre-question before i dive in | 23:21 |
vishy | I find config management (specifically paste config to be extremely annoying) | 23:22 |
vishy | er. misplaced en paren | 23:22 |
vishy | so here is the pain point | 23:22 |
vishy | : | 23:22 |
vishy | in the packaging or installer, we are keeping a separate config file | 23:22 |
vishy | if the base config file changes (or the class moves in the source tree) it becomes a big headache because every installer/package has to change | 23:23 |
rmk | does nova-network deal with vm live migrations when run on every node in the newer HA setup? | 23:23 |
vishy | and I think the problem is that we don't do enough overrides | 23:24 |
vishy | rmk: not exactly | 23:24 |
vishy | rmk: your vm will use the old host as the gateway and natting for floating ips | 23:24 |
vishy | rmk: the gateway thing can be fixed by setting dnsmasq to use the switch as the gateway | 23:25 |
vishy | rmk: floating ips need to be patched to be moved | 23:25 |
vishy | rmk: so it will still work, but you create a couple points of failure | 23:25 |
rmk | Switch as the gateway, meaning a hardware device? | 23:25 |
vishy | markmc: ^^ | 23:25 |
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vishy | rmk: meaning use some external device as a gateway switch or other host | 23:26 |
rmk | right | 23:26 |
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rmk | Yeah the tricky part with that is said device needs to know about every vlan. | 23:26 |
rmk | I guess they can all be pre-configured though. | 23:26 |
vishy | oops lost mark :( | 23:26 |
vishy | rmk: if you're using vlan mode yes | 23:26 |
rmk | As for active-standby nova-network, it looks like when node A goes down, node B needs to bring up nova-network using the same --host as A, correct? | 23:27 |
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rmk | Amd thanks for answering vishy, information on this topic is tough to find | 23:30 |
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markmc | vishy, ah, sorry - I seemed to have timed out | 23:32 |
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vishy | its ok i got disconnected | 23:33 |
markmc | vishy, so, I think I agree - I'd like to see paste config kept separate | 23:33 |
vishy | here is where I was going with the question | 23:33 |
vishy | does your config parsing offer a simple way to override | 23:33 |
vishy | meaning instead of modifying the default config | 23:34 |
markmc | ah, ok | 23:34 |
vishy | i can make a new config file in <somedir> | 23:34 |
vishy | and just override two variables | 23:34 |
markmc | my suggestion is that the default /etc/nova/nova.conf installed by packaging | 23:34 |
markmc | would only contained the default values commented out | 23:34 |
markmc | default values should come from code | 23:34 |
markmc | but yes, it also supports multiple config files | 23:35 |
markmc | --config-file is a multi str option | 23:35 |
markmc | defaulting to e.g. [/etc/nova/nova.conf, /etc/nova/nova-api.conf] | 23:35 |
markmc | I think the main thing, though, is that we don't rely on the config file to provide the defaults | 23:36 |
vishy | and we should have a couple simple options to override the middleware stack if needed. I hate that the packages/installers have to maintain their own copy of paste-config | 23:36 |
vishy | markmc: ok cool makes sense | 23:37 |
markmc | I think I'd see api-paste.ini as living in /usr/lib/python/... | 23:37 |
vishy | you can go to bed now :) | 23:37 |
markmc | but it would have multiple pipelines | 23:37 |
markmc | e.g. nova-api-with-keystone-auth | 23:37 |
markmc | or whatever | 23:37 |
markmc | the choice of pipeline would be in nova.conf | 23:37 |
markmc | so, you'd have to be doing something very unusual to want to add your own paste config | 23:38 |
markmc | and we'd have a --paste-config option for that too | 23:38 |
openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug #890801 Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from additional middleware that used to support /extensions https://review.openstack.org/1891 | 23:38 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 890801 in keystone "GET /extensions returns an empty list" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890801 | 23:38 |
* markmc thanks vish for his indulgence in allowing him to retire for the evening | 23:39 | |
markmc | vishy, ttyl :) | 23:39 |
openstackgerrit | Liem Nguyen proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Implements blueprint keystone-swift-acls. https://review.openstack.org/1995 | 23:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated docstring to match auth_token.py (bug 898211) https://review.openstack.org/1978 | 23:46 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898211 | 23:46 |
openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Fix glance config https://review.openstack.org/1996 | 23:46 |
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mtaylor | hey CaptTofu1 | 23:54 |
CaptTofu1 | hehehahey | 23:55 |
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