Wednesday, 2011-11-30

jog0vishy, when it comes to packaging, it sounds like the concern is stepping on companies toes in the openstack space.    So why not get feedback from companies in the openstack space before making a decision?00:00
rmkI think regardless of which direction things go with distro packages, there's absolutely a need for point releases so we can at least speak the same language when referencing issues/docs/etcd.00:00
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rmkcomstud: http://www.rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-two-python.html, check out the section on message durability00:01
rmk"Two things are required to make sure that messages aren't lost: we need to mark both the queue and messages as durable."00:01
rmkSounds like the former is there but not sure about the latter.00:02
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jog0rmk, I agree with the point releases, even if they are just as simple as release dates00:04
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rmkYeah, don't care at all what the versioning schema is.00:04
novas0x2a|laptopjog0: with my piston hat on, if there were official releases we'd almost certainly use them (but we probably wouldn't care about specific ppas)00:08
novas0x2a|laptopwith my open source community member hat on, there's no way i'd get involved in a project of this magnitude unless there were working packages, because i'd have to install and play with it before i'd ever start contributing, and the barrier to entry of the current situation (even with devstack) would be higher than i'd bother with00:08
rmkExactly right.00:09
rmkbtw, I think there should be packages as well, when our business is modeled around openstack00:09
rmkand making sure it's stable00:09
* Kiall shouldnt have turned on the laptop..00:09
Kiallthis convo still going? ;)00:09
rmkKiall: It's IRC, conversations go for days/hours with massive gaps inbetween :)00:10
rmkThe whole syn/ack process can BE days sometimes00:10
novas0x2a|laptophaha, yeah00:10
novas0x2a|laptopirc is async!00:10
rmkIt's odd for chat but true00:10
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova.  https://review.openstack.org/187900:14
novas0x2a|laptopso, to summarize my position, openstack needs to do point releases and packaging because it's the only thing that will bolster the open source side of the contributor base (due to my reasoning above); it's not terrible if every contributor is a employee of an ecosystem company, but it makes for a healthier ecosystem if there are people in it whose motives can't be conflated with any one company's :)00:17
mtaylornovas0x2a|laptop: ++00:19
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openstackgerritMark Washenberger proposed a change to openstack/nova: Make run_instance only support instance uuids.  https://review.openstack.org/195600:19
novas0x2a|laptopthat's probably the closest i'll ever get to a standing ovation on irc00:20
novas0x2a|laptoplol00:20
Kiallnovas0x2a|laptop, I was quietly booing00:22
Kiall;)00:22
novas0x2a|laptopaww ._.00:22
novas0x2a|laptophehe00:22
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated testing  https://review.openstack.org/191800:36
openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Set sane defaults, get config info from localrc  https://review.openstack.org/195500:44
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openstackgerritPaul Voccio proposed a change to openstack/python-novaclient: adding the keystone module to setup.py  https://review.openstack.org/195701:58
openstackgerritPaul Voccio proposed a change to openstack/python-novaclient: Add 'discover' command for Keystone discovery and version listing  https://review.openstack.org/182501:58
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated testing  https://review.openstack.org/191802:31
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openstackgerritDuncan McGreggor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova.  https://review.openstack.org/195802:34
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openstackgerritJustin Shepherd proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixes bug lp:897819  https://review.openstack.org/194502:49
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openstackgerritDuncan McGreggor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova.  https://review.openstack.org/187903:23
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openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #896997: nova-vncproxy's flash socket policy port is not configurable  https://review.openstack.org/191203:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 896997 in nova "nova-vncproxy's flash socket policy port is not configurable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89699703:50
openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fix typo: priviledges -> privileges.  https://review.openstack.org/195903:55
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openstackgerritDuncan McGreggor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Top-level commit msg for rebase: this commit represents the first steps towards consolidating the testing infrastructure of nova.  https://review.openstack.org/187904:31
rmkvishy: Got a minute or two to answer some nova-network HA questions?04:35
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openstackgerritYogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug-897724: Added method to list endpoints specific to a service and related tests.  https://review.openstack.org/196005:06
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openstackgerritsanjay-tripathi proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#891552 Append the documentation with Nova CLI commands.  https://review.openstack.org/175407:51
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openstackgerritDaryl Walleck proposed a change to openstack-dev/openstack-qa: Initial high level documentation for Tempest  https://review.openstack.org/196108:35
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack/nova: Remove unused ec2.action_args  https://review.openstack.org/196208:37
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network-osanybody knows how the default gateway for the vm's are configured ?10:32
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Remove dependency on django-mailer  https://review.openstack.org/196311:19
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openstackgerritAlvaro Lopez proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixes bug 767947  https://review.openstack.org/196411:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 767947 in nova "start of new instance not possible after restarting libvirtd" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76794711:31
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openstackgerritAlvaro Lopez proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixes bug 767947  https://review.openstack.org/196411:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 767947 in nova "start of new instance not possible after restarting libvirtd" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76794711:32
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix templates installation  https://review.openstack.org/196513:39
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/horizon: Fix sys.path in WSGI file  https://review.openstack.org/196613:42
openstackgerritdavid-perez5 proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixing snapshot failure task_state  https://review.openstack.org/196713:46
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openstackgerrittherese-mchale proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fixes bug 898169  https://review.openstack.org/196814:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898169 in swift "Ring load is slow: use bufferedio with gzipfile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89816914:07
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/nova: Remove autogenerated pot file  https://review.openstack.org/196914:26
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated testing  https://review.openstack.org/191814:33
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed a change to openstack/glance: Fixes LP Bug#861650 - Glance client deps  https://review.openstack.org/161914:41
openstackgerritMark Washenberger proposed a change to openstack/nova: Make run_instance only support instance uuids.  https://review.openstack.org/195614:42
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openstackgerritAaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type  https://review.openstack.org/197215:59
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openstackgerritNaveed Massjouni proposed a change to openstack/nova: Fixing get_info method implementations in virt drivers to accept instance_name instead of instance_id. The abstract class virt.ComputeDriver defines get_info as:     def get_info(self, instance_name). blueprint: internal-uuids  https://review.openstack.org/195016:08
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Eliminated debug output from sphinx_build (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197316:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821116:13
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jaypipesQA IRC meeting starting in 5 minutes on #openstack-meeting16:24
jaypipesQA IRC meeting starting in 33 minutes on #openstack-meeting (sorry for the messup)16:28
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openstackgerritYogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug-897724: Added method to list endpoints specific to a service and related tests.  https://review.openstack.org/196016:30
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jaypipeszul: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1619 is off to the test pit. If all passes, that packaging branch from yesterday you had tee'd up will need to go in immediately after.16:33
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zuljaypipes: k16:33
jaypipeszul: OK, all passed.;16:34
zuljaypipes: should already be there16:35
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jaypipeszul: thank you sir16:39
zuljaypipes: np16:40
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openstackgerritAaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type  https://review.openstack.org/197217:01
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dolphm_is there a git command to *intentionally* put yourself in an unnamed branch / detached head?17:24
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notmynamedolphm_: it's easy to do, but generally is a side effect of doing something else (ie you don't do it directly)17:28
Kialldolphm_: yea, just checkout some revision #17:28
openstackgerritAaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type  https://review.openstack.org/197217:28
dolphm_Kiall: thanks!17:28
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dolphm_Kiall: i wish it was more like `git checkout master && git detach` though :)17:29
kbringardanyone familiar with the "d5" repo here: http://ops.monkeypuppetlabs.com/packages/17:30
kbringard?17:30
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added ssl docs to index; fixed rst syntax (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197417:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821117:30
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax in doc strings (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197517:31
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Improved doc formatting consistency (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197617:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821117:31
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197717:32
dolphm_Kiall: now look what you taught me ^^ :P17:32
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated docstring to match auth_token.py (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197817:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821117:39
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Revised schema migration docs  https://review.openstack.org/197917:39
openstackgerritNaveed Massjouni proposed a change to openstack/nova: Replacing instance id's in in xenapi.vmops and the xen plugin with instance uuids. The only references to instance id's left are calls to the wait_for_task() method. I will address that in another branch. blueprint: internal-uuids  https://review.openstack.org/198017:40
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annegentleis anyone doing a roundup of Compute API extensions that should become Core in a certain timeframe?17:43
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annegentlein the QA meeting they noticed a consoles command for the Compute API that is not in the contrib dir… just wondering what the timeline is for moving extensions to core.17:44
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dolphmkbringard: we didn't have a d5, did we?17:48
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kbringarddolphm: I don't think officially, but my assumption was that it was someone's "custom" repo of the diablo-backports branch17:49
kbringardthat's why I was asking17:50
kbringardDell's crowbar uses that repo to install from… I'm interested in using crowbar, but I want to validate where my bits are coming from as best I can :-D17:50
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Kiallkbringard: I'm guessing its some dell employee's repo..17:53
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KiallMonkey Puppet Labs doesnt sound like a dell brand to me ;)17:53
kbringardyea, could be… I asked on the Crowbar mailing list too17:53
kbringardbut I figured I may get a quicker answer here if anyone knew17:53
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pixelbeata quick gerrit question18:04
pixelbeatIf I have more than one patch in a set, how do I submit them18:05
pixelbeatwill rfc.sh send all automatically?18:05
nati2git commit -a -amend  :)18:05
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openstackgerritBrian Waldon proposed a change to openstack/nova: Move users and accounts from OSAPI into Admin API  https://review.openstack.org/195418:07
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rmkSo, anyone want to talk nova-network HA setups?18:16
rmkI've got a concept at this point but wanted to trade notes.18:16
pixelbeatnati2, So I have to do each patch individually?18:17
pixelbeathow does gerrit coalesce them?18:17
nati2pixelbeat: No paches sould be go to same review. If you do  git commit -a -amend, you can send new patch for same review18:18
openstackjenkinsProject nova-docs build #1,690: SUCCESS in 2 min 58 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1690/18:18
openstackjenkinsbrian.waldon: Convert compute manager delete methods to objects18:18
pixelbeatnati2, Oh wow, yuckity18:19
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jeblairsoren: ping18:25
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markmcpixelbeat, rfc.sh will submit each patch as a review18:44
markmcpixelbeat, if you've a series of patches well separated for a reason, go for it18:44
markmcpixelbeat, if they're completely separate, make a topic branch for each and rfc each branch individually18:44
jeblairpixelbeat: on the other hand, if you have a series of commits that are really one change, you should squash them yourself before commiting them.  see http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow#Long-lived_Topic_Branches for how to do that18:45
markmcpixelbeat, the squashing recommendation is where you have checkpoint commits, rather than cleanly separated commits18:45
pixelbeatThey're cleaning separated commits18:45
markmcyeah, thought so :)18:45
pixelbeatBut relating to a single bug/topic18:46
markmcif they depend on each, just rfc.sh them and gerrit will show the dependency tree (badly)18:46
jeblairi need to shutdown gerrit for a few minutes in order to perform the rename of openstack-integration-tests to tempest.  should only be briefly unavailable.18:46
rmkcomstud: Don't suppose you had a chance to look at the link I sent yesterday to validate whether messages and queues are duable when the nova flag is set?18:47
pixelbeatthanks markmc, jeblair I'll hold off for a while so18:47
comstudrmk: i missed your link somehow...18:48
rmkcomstud: Link basically confirms there's a distinction between durable queues and messages.18:49
rmkAnd that message durability needs to be set on a duable queue for a message to ultimate be durable.18:49
comstudrmk: I'll look back in my logs18:49
rmkI haven't gone through the code, so I was curious whether the nova duability flag implied both.18:49
comstudrmk: ATM, it's not anything i'm focused on.  I'm more concerned you're having issues needing to restart compute when rabbit restarts18:49
comstudbut I can think of a case where that's necessary and it's not a rabbit problem18:50
comstudit's a nova messaging problem18:50
rmkcomstud: nods - we're working on getting more data about that and reproducable steps18:50
comstudok18:50
jeblairgerrit is back up18:51
Tribaalhey devs, I just noticed how KVM's shutdown() call on guests only works when the guest has the acpi demon installed. Are there any plans to do shutdown() + wait instead of destroy() in nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py:543 ?18:51
TribaalI'll glady hack something together otherwise18:51
Tribaaloh sorry I mean line 54618:53
Tribaaland I meant libvirt instead of KVM :/18:55
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openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Support rsyslog and RELP protocol  https://review.openstack.org/198118:55
Tribaalbut I'm sure you get the idea18:55
openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname  https://review.openstack.org/198218:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89829018:55
jeblairjaypipes: i believe the rename to tempest is complete, at least on gerrit and github.18:55
jeblairjaypipes: i need to coordinate with soren to get the LP project renamed18:56
jeblairjaypipes: give it a once over and see if things look good18:56
jaypipesjeblair: will do.18:57
jeblairjaypipes: i'm about to propose a change to the .gitreview file reflecting the rename.18:57
openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Support rsyslog and RELP protocol  https://review.openstack.org/198118:58
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/tempest: Update .gitreview with new project name.  https://review.openstack.org/198318:59
jeblairjaypipes: probably a good idea to approve that review, then tell devs to re-clone their repos from github19:00
jaypipesjeblair: I lgtm'd19:01
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jeblair(or if not re-clone, manually pull from the new location, then run "git remote rm gerrit")19:01
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jeblairjaypipes: jenkins job is updated, and it's merged now19:05
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openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname  https://review.openstack.org/198219:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89829019:10
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openstackgerritYogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from  additional middleware that used to support /extensions call.ie RAX  https://review.openstack.org/189119:17
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openstackgerritYogeshwar Srikrishnan proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug #890801 Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from  additional middleware that used to support /extensions  https://review.openstack.org/189119:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 890801 in keystone "GET /extensions returns an empty list" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89080119:18
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/openstack-ci: Add docs on renaming a project in gerrit.  https://review.openstack.org/198419:21
jaypipesjeblair: thx man!19:25
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zuldoes anyone know when melange is moving to gerrit?19:41
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openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname  https://review.openstack.org/198219:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89829019:44
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rohitagarwallazul: read in yesterday's quantum meeting...3pm CST today19:55
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openstackgerritJoe Breu proposed a change to openstack/nova: Updates simple schedule to honor strict availability_zone scheduling of new instances  https://review.openstack.org/198620:01
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sorenjeblair: wassup?20:12
jeblairsoren: hi, can you ask the lp admins to rename openstack-integration-tests to tempest?20:12
jeblairsoren: i registered a 'tempest' project, so we'll also need to ask them to delete that20:13
jeblairsoren: (you're the maintainer of openstack-integration-tests, so i figured the request should probably come from you).  i set the maintainer of tempest to openstack-admins, you can set it to yourself if that would make things simpler.  but they'll probably believe you. :)20:13
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixed RST syntax (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197720:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821120:14
sorenjeblair: I'll take care of it.20:14
jeblairsoren: thanks!20:14
sorenjeblair: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/18054120:16
jeblairsoren: great20:17
sorenjeblair: Is there any urgency?20:18
sorenjeblair: I can pull some strings, but if there's no urgency, I'd rather just let it be.20:18
jeblairsoren: no urgency20:19
sorenjeblair: Cool.20:19
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openstackgerritJay Pipes proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Fixes a number of configuration/startup bugs  https://review.openstack.org/193620:42
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anotherjessejaypipes: regarding adding a test - http://qa.openstack.org/integration.html#adding-a-new-integration-test20:56
anotherjesseif I want to test something like: kill rabbit, wait a few minutes then restart it - and make sure things "settle down" (to be defined)20:56
anotherjesseis that something that I should be able to add to "tempest"20:56
jaypipesanotherjesse: that would not be something that would be in the tempest folder, no... that's kind of what nati is doing with his StackMonkey project...20:57
anotherjesseis the idea that eventually stackmonkey would be a subset of tempest20:57
anotherjesseor is it forever alone20:57
jaypipesanotherjesse: since that is more of a white-box testing thing (since you are using knowledge of internal implementation of Nova -- i.e. that Rabbit is critical)20:57
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added JSON validator; fixed samples (bug 898353)  https://review.openstack.org/198720:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898353 in keystone "JSON samples are (frequently) invalid" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89835320:58
jaypipesanotherjesse: StackMonkey is more just the project that allows you to easily kill important processes and wreak havoc :) I would imagine that someone would want to run some set of standard functional integration tests (tempest), trigger failures via StackMonkey during that test run, and see what happens.20:59
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Added JSON validator; fixed samples (bug 898353)  https://review.openstack.org/198721:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898353 in keystone "JSON samples are (frequently) invalid" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89835321:00
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jaypipesanotherjesse: so, the tempest *project* may contain a number of test suites (functional, integration, whitebox, blackbox, stress/capacity, etc). However within the /tempest directory in the tempest project, that's where we are currently keeping only blackbox functional and integration tests.21:01
jaypipesanotherjesse: other test suites (whitebox, stress, etc) may be added in the tempest *project*, just in a wholly separate directory...21:01
jaypipesanotherjesse: that answer your question? sorry, it's a bit confusing still.21:02
anotherjesseheh - makes sense21:02
dolphmjeblair: mtaylor: I added an argument to run_tests.sh to validate our JSON -- can we make it a gating job? I'm tired of people complaining about syntax errors in our docs lol21:03
dolphm( https://review.openstack.org/#change,1987 )21:03
kbringardso for anyone who was wondering (and to follow up my earlier question) the ops.monkeypuppetlabs.com repo are Rackspace's cloud builders repos21:03
openstackjenkinsProject nova-docs build #1,691: SUCCESS in 3 min 20 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1691/21:04
openstackjenkinsewan.mellor: Fix typo: priviledges -> privileges.21:04
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jeblairdolphm: probably; i'm working on moving melange to gerrit right now, lemme get back to you in a bit (if mtaylor doesn't first)21:05
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dolphmjeblair: no rush, it's still in merge prop ;)21:06
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openstackgerritBrad Hall proposed a change to openstack/quantum: Fix lp bug 897882  https://review.openstack.org/198821:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 897882 in quantum "Command 'egg' not found for quantum when running install_venv.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89788221:12
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openstackgerritEwan Mellor proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug #898290: iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname  https://review.openstack.org/198221:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898290 in nova "iSCSI volume backend treats FLAGS.host as a hostname" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89829021:15
openstackgerritAaron Lee proposed a change to openstack/nova: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type  https://review.openstack.org/197221:19
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/melange: Gavri/Rajaram|Added api documentation from the wiki  https://review.openstack.org/198921:26
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/melange: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool.  https://review.openstack.org/199021:29
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool.  https://review.openstack.org/199021:29
openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool.  https://review.openstack.org/199021:30
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/melange failed: Add .gitreview file to support the git-review tool.  https://review.openstack.org/199021:33
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed a change to openstack/openstack-ci-puppet: Close pull requests for melange and tempest.  https://review.openstack.org/199121:35
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kbringardis it expected behaviour that setting —my_ip in the nova.conf overrides the routing_source?21:46
kbringardmy_ip keeps getting set to my internal interface, but then it makes the nova-network-snat chain use the internal IP as its routing source instead of the external IP21:47
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kbringardand breaks SNAT for VMs with no floater21:47
openstackjenkinsProject nova-docs build #1,692: SUCCESS in 3 min 18 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1692/21:49
openstackjenkinsaaron.lee: split rxtx_factor into network and instance_type21:49
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tr3buchetannegentle: change that affects docs was just merged: https://review.openstack.org/#change,197221:53
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annegentletr3buchet: thanks, how are you going to resource that doc task?21:54
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tr3buchetannegentle: i haven't really planned on it yet. I need to know what you need.21:57
* annegentle reads more21:58
annegentletr3buchet: so this is the "bring on v2 API" merge?21:58
annegentletr3buchet: or is this an extension addition?21:59
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tr3buchetannegentle: just the extension, i'll refer you to wwkeyboard for any other specifics22:19
wwkeyboardannegentle: It's a modification to flavors, rxtx_cap and rxtx_quota are replaced with rxtx_factor22:20
* annegentle does some more digging22:20
mtaylorjaypipes: ping22:20
openstackgerritJosh Kearney proposed a change to openstack/nova: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls.  https://review.openstack.org/199222:21
jaypipesmtaylor: one sec...22:22
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annegentletr3buchet: and wwkeyboard: ok, the only place where rxtx_cap is used now as an example is in the OpenStack Starter Guide, so I'll log a bug against their trunk so they know to pick up the change.22:27
annegentletr3buchet: I really would like more visibility into when extensions become core… do you have an eye on that?22:28
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tr3buchetannegentle: like am i watching which are becoming core? or the process?22:32
annegentletr3buchet: more along the lines of, what's the process?22:32
openstackgerritp-draigbrady proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#898257 abstract out disk image access methods  https://review.openstack.org/199322:33
tr3buchetannegentle: bcwalden can tell you all about it22:33
openstackgerritp-draigbrady proposed a change to openstack/nova: Bug#898257 support handling images with libguestfs  https://review.openstack.org/199422:33
annegentletr3buchet: ok, thanks… the process helps with doc process since that's also poorly executed now22:34
tr3buchetyeah22:35
tr3buchetannegentle: as far as I know it's bascially just agreed upon somehow that extension become core. i'm not sure what begs the question leading to the agreement however22:35
annegentletr3buchet: yeah I have gotten a decent overview before but it's just not happening and I'm not sure why (it being movement from extension into core).22:36
tr3buchetannegentle: I do remember there being specific talks at the summit about which should become core, so maybe it's just something decided in person at the summits22:36
annegentletr3buchet: but yeah, these are bcwaldon Qs :)22:36
tr3buchetyeah22:36
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dolphmis gerrit down?22:44
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Kialldolphm: nope22:49
openstackjenkinsProject nova-docs build #1,693: SUCCESS in 3 min 23 sec: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova-docs/1693/22:49
openstackjenkinsJosh Kearney: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls.22:49
Kiallit does that for me all the time...22:49
Kiallfirst attempt or two to hit the page always fails22:49
dolphmKiall: i tried a few times, and it wouldn't respond... finally popped up (never happened to me before)22:50
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zaitcevDoes anyone happen to know where to get so-called "git-review" for Fedora? The Gerrit wokflow refers to it.22:52
zaitcevgit: 'review' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.22:52
zaitcevGluster people have their own in-tree shell script that posts to Gerrit, so they do not ask to install anything. If we have something like that, it would be fine too.22:53
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kpeppledid the openstack integration tests repo get moved on github ? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-integration-tests just 404s ....22:56
Kiallzaitcev: the first command on the workflow page says how to install it ;)22:56
Kiall`pip install git-review`22:56
zaitcevPerhaps I was not explicit enough about working on Fedora.22:59
Kiallpip is a python command..23:00
KiallI presume its installed with "yum install python-pip"23:01
zaitcevOh, that works.23:01
Kiall;)23:01
KiallI guess the assumption is made that anyone hacking on openstack knows python, and anyone who knows python knows pip23:01
zaitcevIndeed.23:02
KiallIts a wiki.. worth an edit ;)23:02
zaitcevAnd that everyone who does is not afraid of some unpackaged stuff in their filesystems that pip is likely to install.23:02
KiallYea - I know that feeling ;)23:02
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openstackgerritVerification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Adds missing image_meta to rescue's spawn() calls.  https://review.openstack.org/199223:06
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kpeppleahhh ... we made the openstack-integration-test to tempest name change. got it.23:18
vishymarkmc: ping23:20
markmcvishy, hey23:21
markmcvishy, perfect timing, I was just going to bed :)23:21
vishyso I am about to look at your config stuff23:21
vishyI just wanted to ask a pre-question before i dive in23:21
vishyI find config management (specifically paste config to be extremely annoying)23:22
vishyer. misplaced en paren23:22
vishyso here is the pain point23:22
vishy:23:22
vishyin the packaging or installer, we are keeping a separate config file23:22
vishyif the base config file changes (or the class moves in the source tree) it becomes a big headache because every installer/package has to change23:23
rmkdoes nova-network deal with vm live migrations when run on every node in the newer HA setup?23:23
vishyand I think the problem is that we don't do enough overrides23:24
vishyrmk: not exactly23:24
vishyrmk: your vm will use the old host as the gateway and natting for floating ips23:24
vishyrmk: the gateway thing can be fixed by setting dnsmasq to use the switch as the gateway23:25
vishyrmk: floating ips need to be patched to be moved23:25
vishyrmk: so it will still work, but you create a couple points of failure23:25
rmkSwitch as the gateway, meaning a hardware device?23:25
vishymarkmc: ^^23:25
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vishyrmk: meaning use some external device as a gateway switch or other host23:26
rmkright23:26
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rmkYeah the tricky part with that is said device needs to know about every vlan.23:26
rmkI guess they can all be pre-configured though.23:26
vishyoops lost mark :(23:26
vishyrmk: if you're using vlan mode yes23:26
rmkAs for active-standby nova-network, it looks like when node A goes down, node B needs to bring up nova-network using the same --host as A, correct?23:27
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rmkAmd thanks for answering vishy, information on this topic is tough to find23:30
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markmcvishy, ah, sorry - I seemed to have timed out23:32
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vishyits ok i got disconnected23:33
markmcvishy, so, I think I agree - I'd like to see paste config kept separate23:33
vishyhere is where I was going with the question23:33
vishydoes your config parsing offer a simple way to override23:33
vishymeaning instead of modifying the default config23:34
markmcah, ok23:34
vishyi can make a new config file in <somedir>23:34
vishyand just override two variables23:34
markmcmy suggestion is that the default /etc/nova/nova.conf installed by packaging23:34
markmcwould only contained the default values commented out23:34
markmcdefault values should come from code23:34
markmcbut yes, it also supports multiple config files23:35
markmc--config-file is a multi str option23:35
markmcdefaulting to e.g. [/etc/nova/nova.conf, /etc/nova/nova-api.conf]23:35
markmcI think the main thing, though, is that we don't rely on the config file to provide the defaults23:36
vishyand we should have a couple simple options to override the middleware stack if needed.  I hate that the packages/installers  have to maintain their own copy of paste-config23:36
vishymarkmc: ok cool makes sense23:37
markmcI think I'd see api-paste.ini as living in /usr/lib/python/...23:37
vishyyou can go to bed now :)23:37
markmcbut it would have multiple pipelines23:37
markmce.g. nova-api-with-keystone-auth23:37
markmcor whatever23:37
markmcthe choice of pipeline would be in nova.conf23:37
markmcso, you'd have to be doing something very unusual to want to add your own paste config23:38
markmcand we'd have a --paste-config option for that too23:38
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Bug #890801 Changes to support /extensions call. - Introduced a new extension reader to read static extension content. - Added additional rst files explaining extensions. - Removed functionality from  additional middleware that used to support /extensions  https://review.openstack.org/189123:38
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 890801 in keystone "GET /extensions returns an empty list" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89080123:38
* markmc thanks vish for his indulgence in allowing him to retire for the evening23:39
markmcvishy, ttyl :)23:39
openstackgerritLiem Nguyen proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Implements blueprint keystone-swift-acls.  https://review.openstack.org/199523:41
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/keystone: Updated docstring to match auth_token.py (bug 898211)  https://review.openstack.org/197823:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898211 in keystone "./setup.py sphinx_build reports 43 issues" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89821123:46
openstackgerritDean Troyer proposed a change to openstack-dev/devstack: Fix glance config  https://review.openstack.org/199623:46
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mtaylorhey CaptTofu123:54
CaptTofu1hehehahey23:55
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