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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/cyborg master: Cyborg/Nova/Glance interaction in compute node, including os-acc. https://review.openstack.org/577438 | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/cyborg master: Cyborg/Nova/Glance interaction in compute node, including os-acc. https://review.openstack.org/577438 | 01:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Improve Intel FPGA driver https://review.openstack.org/599956 | 08:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Improve Intel FPGA driver https://review.openstack.org/599960 | 08:06 |
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| zhipeng | #startmeeting openstack-cyborg | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 14:03:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg' | 14:03 |
| Li_Liu | #info Li_Liu | 14:03 |
| wangzhh | #info wangzhh | 14:03 |
| zhipeng | #info Howard | 14:03 |
| wangzhh | Hi Howard, do u get the visa? | 14:04 |
| wangzhh | :) | 14:04 |
| dolpher | #info dolpher | 14:04 |
| zhipeng | wangzhh yes got it lol | 14:05 |
| zhipeng | #topic Stein PTG agenda crafting | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein PTG agenda crafting (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:05 | |
| zhipeng | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cyborg-ptg-stein | 14:05 |
| Sundar | #info Sundar | 14:06 |
| wangzhh | Congratulations. | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | as Li Liu mentioned, it seems that Nova team already planned a cross-project meeting with cyborg | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | on Thursday right ? | 14:06 |
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| Li_Liu | yes | 14:07 |
| Coco_gao | #info Coco_gao | 14:07 |
| Li_Liu | Thursday "Cross Project Day" 11:10am - lunch: Cyborg/Nova cross project session | 14:07 |
| Sundar | zhipeng: The main cross-project Nova/Cyborg needs to be on Cyborg time. Nova team will have a spill over time in case the discusions don;t complete | 14:07 |
| Li_Liu | Is it in Cyborg's room or Nova's room? | 14:08 |
| Sundar | We need to arrange for a session on Mon/Tue and let Nova team know ahead of time | 14:08 |
| Sundar | Cyborg's room on Mon/Tue. The Thu slot is in Nova's room but that is a second follow-up | 14:08 |
| Sundar | We do not expect all discussions to complete in 1 hour session | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | okey then what I would propose is that | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | we concentrate on Monday | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | and use Tuesday for spillovers | 14:09 |
| Coco_gao | Agree | 14:10 |
| zhipeng | I need to jump over the public cloud wg session as well, on Tuesday | 14:10 |
| Sundar | zhipeng: Sure. We could arrange for the Nova session on mon afternoon? Hopefully that's enough time for folks to come in to the PTG venue | 14:10 |
| zhipeng | That's good enough for me :) | 14:11 |
| Sundar | Cool :) | 14:11 |
| Li_Liu | So the main discussion will be happening on Mon and Tues? | 14:11 |
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| Sundar | Good to know you will be there :) | 14:11 |
| zhipeng | The main one will be on Monday | 14:11 |
| Li_Liu | ok | 14:11 |
| Coco_gao | Do we have an outline about the meeting with nova? | 14:11 |
| Li_Liu | I will take Monday off at least | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | So some update, Li Liu will not make it to Denver unfortunately due to work conflict at company | 14:12 |
| Sundar | I broadly wrote it as os-acc. The workflow itself is still a matter of contention. | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | and I got a late hail marry | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | so I will stand in for Li | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | to organize the meetings | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | and dinners :) | 14:12 |
| Coco_gao | Dinners~ | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | Ok let's go to the etherpad | 14:13 |
| zhipeng | first organize the nova related topics | 14:13 |
| Sundar | Li_Liu and all: please give your os-acc feedback in the spec before the PTG, in case you can't make it. | 14:13 |
| Li_Liu | sure, will do.. I am kinda tied up recently. Will do some reviews in next couple days | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | Sundar any idea for the Neutron cross discussion ? | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | I really like that topic | 14:15 |
| Sundar | zhipeng: Yes. Neutron has given a slot on Thu. | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | shall we also invite Neutron guys over ? | 14:15 |
| Li_Liu | can we propose it in Neutron's etherpad? | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | Oh good, so we could talk them on Thu right ? | 14:15 |
| Li_Liu | g8t | 14:15 |
| Sundar | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-stein-ptg Thu 3:15-4:15 pm | 14:16 |
| Sundar | zhipeng: Yes | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | nice ! | 14:16 |
| Sundar | There is also an Ironic/Neutron session on smart NICs. Not sure how far Cyborg will be involved there. But, since I am involved in that project, I'll be there too | 14:17 |
| zhipeng | but we could align internally on Mon or Tuesday | 14:17 |
| Sundar | Sure | 14:17 |
| Sundar | As always, please give feedback in the etherpad early :) | 14:18 |
| Sundar | We should have another session on broadening Cyborg scope to PCI devices. You might have seen Eric's question on whether we can handle IB for e.g. I think we can, without much architectural effort | 14:19 |
| Li_Liu | Yes, that one | 14:19 |
| Li_Liu | looking forward to it | 14:20 |
| Sundar | The actual implementation, of course, can be left to whoever has the knowledge and resources for that :) | 14:20 |
| Sundar | Also, how will Cyborg handle infrastructure offload? Like OVS offload? | 14:21 |
| Sundar | Perhaps this is Neutron area, or may be Cyborg needs to be involved. One can argue both ways | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | ya offload is another interesting area | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | ovs/dpdk/ebpf offloading | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | so what do we like for Monday morning ? | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | retrospect of course | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | and ? | 14:22 |
| Sundar | Internal discussions -- lke db schemas? | 14:23 |
| Coco_gao | after this, we can summarize what need to change in DB model and OVOs to make it more general. | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | sounds good | 14:23 |
| Sundar | RSD (composable arch) can also be Cyborg-internal to start with | 14:24 |
| Li_Liu | Is Brian from Xilinx coming? | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | i've no idea | 14:24 |
| Li_Liu | I will follow up with him then, also the update on the Xilinx device drivers | 14:25 |
| dolpher | Brian mentioned he could attend, but not confirmed with him | 14:25 |
| wangzhh | We also need to disscuss how to handle different Arch. and system in cyborg. | 14:25 |
| Sundar | wangzhh: can you elaborate? ^ | 14:26 |
| wangzhh | Such as x86, power(different) or libvirt, xen(different hypervisor). | 14:28 |
| wangzhh | different Arch... Sorry. | 14:28 |
| wangzhh | Some operations like attach and detach | 14:29 |
| Coco_gao | I suggest we discuss the "evolution" after "General Accelerator Management", It don't know whether this will have impact on DB. | 14:29 |
| Sundar | wangzhh: Nova folks say that the instane attach and hypervisor-specific but not device-specific) ops should be left to Nova virt (and possibly os-acc but even that is debated) | 14:30 |
| Coco_gao | what wangzhh said just now may also have impact on DB | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | the general mgmt will be a long way to go | 14:30 |
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| zhipeng | and I want to make sure Eric Fried got time to join :P | 14:31 |
| Sundar | Better to have Disaggregated servers as a separate topic | 14:31 |
| shaohe_feng__ | #info shaohe_feng_ | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | Sundar maybe under drivers ? | 14:31 |
| Sundar | It will include representation etc. | 14:32 |
| wangzhh | Sundar, It is vendor driver which handle these. | 14:32 |
| Sundar | We can club it in any session :) as long as we know it will be wide-ranging | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | ah alright :) | 14:32 |
| Sundar | RSD is not vendor-specific :) Many OEM vendors support composable arch, | 14:33 |
| Sundar | There is a large RSD+OpenStack effort outside of devices abd Cyborg | 14:33 |
| Sundar | *and | 14:33 |
| Sundar | We need to figure out how Cyborg fits in with Nova and others for that | 14:34 |
| zhipeng | understood | 14:34 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Sundar: does ironic support to compose a RSD node, now? | 14:35 |
| Coco_gao | @jiapei | 14:35 |
| Sundar | The composition is separate from whether it is provisioned as a bare metal server. But I think Ironic + RSD is already on the cards | 14:36 |
| Sundar | There is a RSD openstack client to compose nodes: https://github.com/openstack/python-rsdclient | 14:37 |
| shaohe_feng__ | yes, Do we need to integrate this client to ironic first？ | 14:39 |
| Sundar | Where do we fit infrastructure offload in these sessions? | 14:39 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Sundar: I have submit in another project called mogan to support RSD. REF https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523052/ | 14:40 |
| Sundar | shaohe_feng: The client does not depend on Ironic, AFAIK. It works with RSD infra (Pod manager) to compose the node | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | would be nice to migrate some of the mogan stuff over | 14:41 |
| Sundar | shaohe: The RSD folks know about this effort, right? | 14:43 |
| shaohe_feng__ | yes. but we need a project to support the RSD server | 14:43 |
| Li_Liu | can we leverage Cyborg to support it? | 14:44 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Sundar: I have not followed RSD in openstack for a long time. With discuss with dolpher about the progress. | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | okey moving on | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | plz take a look at the agenda etherpad | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | feel free to propose your topic | 14:46 |
| zhipeng | next topic, team dinner :) | 14:46 |
| zhipeng | Tuesday night works for everyone ? | 14:46 |
| Li_Liu | Shall we assign time slot on the topics? tho I don't think people will follow anyways :) | 14:46 |
| zhipeng | Li_Liu haha we could assign that | 14:46 |
| Sundar | Tuesday night is a conflict with Intel dinner :) | 14:47 |
| zhipeng | Monday night ? | 14:47 |
| dolpher | I'll check if we can have the RSD folk to give a brief introduction on RSD+cyborg plan/design | 14:47 |
| Sundar | Dolpher: I am the one dricing RSD+Cyborg within ntel :) | 14:48 |
| Sundar | *driving | 14:48 |
| Sundar | zhipeng: Mon night is fie by me | 14:48 |
| Sundar | *fine | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | everyone else ? | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | Monday night for team dinner ? | 14:49 |
| dolpher | Sundar: I mean ask Lin(working on RSD) to give a introduction, it's also fine if you volunteer to do that :) | 14:50 |
| Li_Liu | damn.. you guys have fine :( | 14:50 |
| dolpher | I'm fine with Mon night | 14:50 |
| Coco_gao | It's better to have a introduction,~ | 14:51 |
| wangzhh | Zoom dinner with u. Li_Liu | 14:51 |
| Sundar | Sorry to revert back to a previous point briefly: #link https://github.com/openstack/python-rsdclient/blob/master/doc/source/user/User_Guide.pdf The user composes a node first and then enrolls it in Ironic using the ironicclient. The two steps are independent | 14:51 |
| Li_Liu | lol. that sounds fun | 14:51 |
| Sundar | Lin is working with me :) Sure. | 14:51 |
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| dolpher | Sundar: I know that :) | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | dolpher wangzhh Coco-cao | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | team dinner | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | is the time ok ? | 14:53 |
| Coco_gao | OK | 14:53 |
| dolpher | ok | 14:54 |
| Sundar | ok | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | Monday it is :) | 14:55 |
| wangzhh | ok | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | we could go to the Irish pub where the first cyborg team dinner happened :P | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | one year ago, with Rushil and Justin | 14:56 |
| Coco_gao | Sounds good. | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | okey then | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | #topic AoB | 14:57 |
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| zhipeng | any other business | 14:57 |
| Coco_gao | nope | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | okey see you guys in Denver :) | 14:59 |
| Sundar | No. I'll try to get more specific questions for the Nova session before the PTG | 14:59 |
| Sundar | Yes, see you there :) | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | thx Sundar :) | 14:59 |
| dolpher | looking forward to the team dinner then :) | 15:00 |
| Sundar | BTW, a quick queston before we end | 15:00 |
| Sundar | Did anybody hit an issue with devstack where Nova virt expects qemu > 2.5.0 on centos? | 15:00 |
| Sundar | The default qemu pkg in centos is 2.0.0, so n-cpu does not start | 15:01 |
| Sundar | It doesn;t look like centos provides qemu-system-x86_64 binary in a package with version >= 2.5.0 | 15:01 |
| dolpher | Have you switch to the cloud repo? | 15:02 |
| Sundar | Do you mean qemu-kvm-ev or something else? | 15:03 |
| Sundar | I am not using the qemu-*-ev repos yet | 15:03 |
| dolpher | There should be a repo for openstack, I can't remember the url | 15:04 |
| Sundar | This one: yum install centos-release-openstack-queens ? | 15:05 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Sundar: xinran also have some RSD experience, also we have visit some RSD users in China. You can aslo with xinran works on RSD | 15:05 |
| Sundar | shaohe_feng: Good to know that. Thanks, sure | 15:05 |
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| zhipeng | #endmeeting | 15:07 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 15:07:30 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-09-05-14.03.html | 15:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-09-05-14.03.txt | 15:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-09-05-14.03.log.html | 15:07 |
| Coco_gao | Sundar, In my devstack env, the qemu is 2.9.0 | 15:07 |
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| dolpher | coco_gao: Centos or Ubuntu? | 15:08 |
| Coco_gao | centos | 15:08 |
| dolpher | cool, I usually run that on Ubuntu, so don't know much detail about centos | 15:08 |
| Coco_gao | the repo is @rdo-qemu-ev | 15:10 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Coco_gao: which version of your centos? | 15:10 |
| Coco_gao | 7.2 | 15:11 |
| Coco_gao | I think devstack add the repo automatically. | 15:11 |
| Coco_gao | bye, time to bed. | 15:12 |
| Coco_gao | Sundar, dolpher and shaohe, bye. | 15:12 |
| shaohe_feng__ | Coco_gao: Thanks, have a good dream. | 15:12 |
| dolpher | bye | 15:13 |
| Sundar | Thanks, Coco_gao and dolpher. Sorry, had to jump to the next meeting. | 15:14 |
| Sundar | Bye | 15:15 |
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