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| Coco-Gao | Hello | 14:01 |
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| zhipeng | #startmeeting openstack-cyborg | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 11 14:01:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg' | 14:01 |
| zhipeng | #topic Roll Call | 14:02 |
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| zhipeng | #info Howard | 14:02 |
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| Li_Liu | #info Li_Liu | 14:02 |
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| Helloway | #info Helloway | 14:03 |
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| shaohe_feng | #info shaohe_feng | 14:03 |
| zhipeng | everyone plz use the #info cmd to sign up | 14:03 |
| wangzhh | #info wangzhh | 14:04 |
| Coco_Gao | #info | 14:04 |
| zhipeng | #info gaojinghua | 14:04 |
| sum12 | #sum12 | 14:05 |
| zhipeng | shaohe_feng will sundar attend ? | 14:06 |
| shaohe_feng | zhipeng, I do not think so | 14:06 |
| zhipeng | on vacation ? | 14:07 |
| shaohe_feng | he is on vocation. | 14:07 |
| shaohe_feng | yes | 14:07 |
| zhipeng | until when ? | 14:07 |
| shaohe_feng | seems \7/25 | 14:07 |
| shaohe_feng | from July 10 night through July 25, coming back on 26th. | 14:08 |
| zhipeng | lol | 14:08 |
| Coco_Gao | long vacation. | 14:08 |
| zhipeng | okey let's get into business | 14:08 |
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| zhipeng | #topic Rocky Development Update | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Development Update (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:09 | |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cyborg | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | #topic os-acc design | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "os-acc design (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:09 | |
| zhipeng | https://review.openstack.org/577438 | 14:09 |
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| zhipeng | Li_Liu shaohe_feng is there any consensus converging on the current proposal ? | 14:09 |
| Li_Liu | I don't have any further comments on that one | 14:11 |
| zhipeng | meaning satisfied ? | 14:11 |
| zhipeng | or still waiting for answers | 14:11 |
| shaohe_feng | I really want to know the scope of the os-acc. | 14:11 |
| shaohe_feng | will it cover the program and instance binding? | 14:12 |
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| shaohe_feng | we have not define the binding interface. The binding should pass hostname and instance uuid and request spec. | 14:14 |
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| zhipeng | Li_Liu wangzhh Coco-Gao what's your opinion | 14:14 |
| wangzhh | I think so. os-acc call cyborg to program and bind. | 14:14 |
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| Li_Liu | it should be able to call the program API | 14:15 |
| shaohe_feng | rest full API | 14:16 |
| shaohe_feng | ? | 14:16 |
| Li_Liu | but how it calls it is the problem here | 14:16 |
| wangzhh | Not just restful api. | 14:16 |
| Li_Liu | exactly | 14:16 |
| Li_Liu | rest/rpc/something else? | 14:16 |
| Li_Liu | for the moment, the most intuitive way is calling the REST API I am currently writing | 14:17 |
| shaohe_feng | can program also call RPC? | 14:17 |
| zhipeng | wangzhh how's the os-brick handling the attach ? | 14:17 |
| Coco_Gao | wangzhh sundar suggest to use rpc call? | 14:17 |
| wangzhh | I've talked to Sundar about it. We agreed that os-acc should call not just api. | 14:18 |
| wangzhh | In fact, call api only is another option. | 14:19 |
| zhipeng | besides api what could it call ? | 14:19 |
| Li_Liu | Maybe allowing os-acc directly call the vendor driver api is another option | 14:20 |
| zhipeng | that would be the original design right ? | 14:20 |
| zhipeng | contain it on the compute node level | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | without any api interactions | 14:21 |
| wangzhh | In some cases, we must call api. But sometimes, rpc call is a good code path, too. | 14:21 |
| Coco_Gao | os-acc call cyborg-agent using rpc? | 14:21 |
| wangzhh | CoCo: Yes | 14:21 |
| wangzhh | The original design right. | 14:22 |
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| Coco_Gao | ok, when should we use rpc and when should we use api? | 14:23 |
| wangzhh | Sorry, lost an "is". | 14:23 |
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| wangzhh | Attach, deatch use rpc. | 14:24 |
| Li_Liu | zhipeng: "contain it on the compute node level". that should be the easiest way for now | 14:26 |
| zhipeng | will attach/detach involving binding shaohe_feng mentioned ? | 14:27 |
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| xinran__ | Binding is before attach I think？ | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | bind the vm instance with the acc instance ? | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | do we have similar process in other module ? | 14:30 |
| Li_Liu | the binding should be taken care of before the process get to the vendor driver | 14:31 |
| wangzhh | Neutron | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | i think there was a comment from Sundar states that it is kinda different for neutron | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | the port binding | 14:31 |
| wangzhh | Nova call neutron-agent directly to allocate port. | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | and the acc binding | 14:31 |
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| zhipeng | okey let's arrange another ZOOM call for specificities | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | the big problem here is about the os-acc scope, like shaohe said | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | what we want it to be for Rocky release | 14:33 |
| wangzhh | In my opinion, we can imply it as the design now. For the api and os-acc are stable. We can refactor it if needed. | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | bare minimum , or we want binding, programming in it as well | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | we need to start implementation as soon as possible for sure | 14:34 |
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| Li_Liu | I agree with wangzhh, we should get the thing working first | 14:34 |
| Li_Liu | ZOOM call would be great | 14:35 |
| zhipeng | Li_Liu will it block FPGA programing if os-acc does not include program support ? | 14:35 |
| Li_Liu | no it should not as my programming support is a stand alone feature | 14:36 |
| Li_Liu | it does not depends on others | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | okey then let's shoot for the minimum feature goal | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | shall we have a ZOOM meeting say 10:00 am tmr ? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | discuss os-acc in detail ? | 14:37 |
| Li_Liu | you mean china time? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | yes, 10:00pm for Toronto | 14:38 |
| Li_Liu | should be fine | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | about less than 12 hours later | 14:38 |
| Li_Liu | up to you guys | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | wangzhh shaohe_feng Coco-Gao okey ? | 14:38 |
| wangzhh | I'm OK. | 14:38 |
| Coco_Gao | ok | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | ok then I assume shaohe is ok as well :) | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | moving on | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | #topic GPU driver | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "GPU driver (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:39 | |
| sum12 | could you guys post some notes about your discussion ? | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | sum12 definitely | 14:39 |
| zhipeng | wangzhh any timeline for the GPU driver ? | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/574075 | 14:40 |
| wangzhh | I'll update the commit tmr. | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | can you also reply to the NVIDIA guy ? | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | i remember he asked about an introduction about the driver code | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | in the email thread | 14:41 |
| wangzhh | Of course. I have promised Mike. | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | gr8t :) | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | moving on | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | #topic FPGA API | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FPGA API (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:42 | |
| Coco_Gao | I think Mike asked more than the driver code, but the cyborg related code as well. | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/579315 | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | Li_Liu is this still premature ? | 14:42 |
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| wangzhh | Coco: Yes. I'll try my best to describe it. | 14:43 |
| Li_Liu | zhipeng, it's not ready yet | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | okey got it | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | moving on to next | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | #topic Quota support | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quota support (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:44 | |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/564968 | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | xinran___ | 14:44 |
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| zhipeng | why is there a 16KiB file change in the patch ? | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | the swp file | 14:46 |
| wangzhh | haha. :) | 14:46 |
| zhipeng | lol so weird | 14:47 |
| zhipeng | xinran__ are you around ? | 14:47 |
| shaohe_feng | http://docs.ocselected.org/openstack-manuals/kilo/networking-guide/content/logical-architecture.html | 14:47 |
| shaohe_feng | #link https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/get-started-logical-architecture.html | 14:48 |
| wangzhh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580022/2/.gitignore This commit could resolve the swp file. | 14:49 |
| xinran__ | I’m here | 14:50 |
| xinran__ | Sorry for the swp file... | 14:50 |
| xinran__ | Haha | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | no problem | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | other than that, plz address Li Liu's commenty | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | and let's move forward | 14:51 |
| xinran__ | OK | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | okey i think we reviewed most of the important current available patches | 14:52 |
| Li_Liu | zhipeng, what's the currently time line? | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | shooting for code completion before RC freeze | 14:53 |
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| Li_Liu | ok | 14:53 |
| Li_Liu | but the os-acc and nova interaction is still faaar behind.. | 14:54 |
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| zhipeng | https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | os-acc will miss the R release i'm fraid | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | as non-client libraries | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | but as long as we have code implementation, we could have docs guiding the user how to use it | 14:56 |
| Li_Liu | ok | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | the week of Aug 20 - Aug 24 is the RC deadline | 14:56 |
| Li_Liu | I am just hoping we can make cyborg be in a usable state in R | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | which gives us barely more than a month of time | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | Li_Liu of course | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | #topic Berlin Summit CFP | 14:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Summit CFP (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:57 | |
| Coco_Gao | since we will merge accelerator&deployable db table, should we modify the code after xinran's code being merged? | 14:57 |
| zhipeng | Plz be aware that the Berlin Summit CFP ends on Jul 17th | 14:57 |
| wangzhh | Zhipeng, Li_liu, if we can't merge os-acc in nova in time. Can we offer the code as patch to user? | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | wangzhh that was what I meant | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | because the repo is aleady there, thx xinran__ | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | as long as we have workable code | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | in or out of a release is not that big a deal | 14:58 |
| Li_Liu | zhipeng, will you go to Berlin? | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | yes definitely | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | maybe will do a keynote | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | with cyborg+AI | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | but nothing settled yet :P | 14:59 |
| Coco_Gao | that's great | 14:59 |
| wangzhh | Wow~ | 14:59 |
| Li_Liu | nice | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | a big maybe, let see how Mark Collier and others works out the arrangement | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | maybe nothing | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | plz remember submit topic for Berlin Summit | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | ok see you guys tmr on ZOOM | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | 10am Beijing time | 15:01 |
| Coco_Gao | tomorrow? | 15:01 |
| xinran__ | Coco_Gao: I think you can go ahead because quota support still need Oslo limit be ready | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | yes tmr | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | xinran__ let's discuss it tmr as well | 15:02 |
| xinran__ | OK | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | thx everyone | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spec review day (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 11 15:02:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:03 |
| Coco_Gao | xinran could you answer my wechat questions, thks~ | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-07-11-14.01.html | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-07-11-14.01.txt | 15:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-07-11-14.01.log.html | 15:03 |
| wangzhh | Bye | 15:03 |
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