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| openstackgerrit | Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Introduce Cyborg Resource Quota https://review.openstack.org/560285 | 06:46 |
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| Xinran | Hi guys, i just upload a bp for quota support, pls feel free to review it. Thanks! | 06:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Introduce Cyborg Resource Quota https://review.openstack.org/560285 | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Xinran WANG proposed openstack/cyborg master: Introduce Cyborg Resource Quota https://review.openstack.org/560285 | 09:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | ShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/python-cyborgclient master: Initialize cyborgclient repository https://review.openstack.org/560400 | 12:18 |
| openstackgerrit | ShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/python-cyborgclient master: Initialize cyborgclient repository https://review.openstack.org/560400 | 12:24 |
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| zhipeng | #startmeeting openstack-cyborg | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 13:59:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg' | 13:59 |
| zhipeng | #topic Roll Call | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:00 | |
| zhipeng | #info Howard | 14:00 |
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| NokMikeR | #info Mike | 14:02 |
| Li_Liu | #info Li Liu | 14:02 |
| kosamara | #info kosamara | 14:02 |
| Melissa_S | #info Melissa | 14:02 |
| circ-user-S6lQW | #info Helloway | 14:02 |
| edleafe | #info edleafe | 14:03 |
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| Helloway | #info Helloway | 14:04 |
| zhipeng | let's wait for another 5 mins in case more people will show up :) | 14:04 |
| zhuli | #info zhuli | 14:04 |
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| zhipeng | hi xinran_ :) | 14:06 |
| xinran_ | hi sorry i'am late | 14:08 |
| zhipeng | no problem and not late :) | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | ok let's start | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | #topic confirmation of new core reviewer promotion | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "confirmation of new core reviewer promotion (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:09 | |
| zhipeng | today Yumeng, Shaohe and Sundar will be absent from the meeting | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | I proposed to add Li_Liu as a new core team member last week, and received no negative feedback | 14:10 |
| zhipeng | so if there will be no further objection then I will acknowledge the promotion | 14:10 |
| Li_Liu | Thanks guys :) | 14:11 |
| zhuli | sure thing, congrats to Li_Liu, thanks for you hard work | 14:11 |
| Li_Liu | It's great to work with all of you guys | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | okey it's done then :) | 14:13 |
| zhipeng | next topic | 14:13 |
| zhipeng | #topic Critical Rocky Spec Discussion | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Rocky Spec Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:13 | |
| zhipeng | last week we mentioned there are still two specs missing, xinran_ just updated one on the quota | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | xinran_ could you explain it a little bit for the team ? | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/560285 | 14:15 |
| xinran_ | ok | 14:16 |
| xinran_ | it's similar with other projects, every tenant has a limitation when he wants use acceleration resources on the cloud | 14:18 |
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| xinran_ | we should,check if he has already reached this limitation, and then update the quota (+/-) | 14:19 |
| xinran_ | of course we should also add rollback function | 14:20 |
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| zhipeng | xinran_ I'm not sure if you have checked out the Dublin PTG summary | 14:21 |
| zhipeng | one of the conclusions was that we will try to experiment with the limit api developed by Keystone team | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | for unified quota control | 14:22 |
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| zhipeng | the api will be implemented as a oslo library for project to consume, oslo_limit will be release for rocky as well | 14:23 |
| zhipeng | xinran_ I found you have new apis proposed, are those inline with the limit api ? | 14:23 |
| xinran_ | ah not yet... | 14:24 |
| zhipeng | plz take a look at it, I could introduce you to the oslo_limit author | 14:25 |
| xinran_ | fine, I will look into it soon | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | to speed up things :) | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | okey fantastic | 14:25 |
| zhipeng | #action xinran_ to update with new limit api design | 14:26 |
| zhipeng | zhuli do you have any update on the os-acc design spec ? | 14:26 |
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| Coco | Hi, zhipeng, I noticed three are two db tables, one is 'accelerator', the other is 'deployable', does this two table have any relativity? Sorry, I missed some of your discussions before. | 14:28 |
| Li_Liu | Coco, I can explain this to you offline | 14:29 |
| Coco | thank you~ | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | one of the popular question :P | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | zhuli are you still around ? | 14:29 |
| Li_Liu | We can let Howard focus on his agenda | 14:29 |
| Coco | OK, pls continue. Sorry to interrupt. | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | okey let's move on then | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/559395 | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/558265 | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | the two spec proposal from Li Liu, plz help review those :) | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | Sundar's spec still need update to reflect the discussion on the etherpad as we agreed last week | 14:32 |
| Li_Liu | appreciate all the comments :) | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/554717 | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | okey next topic | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | #topic open patch discussion | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open patch discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:33 | |
| zhipeng | we have two new repo setup, thanks to Yumeng and Shaohe | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | there are two patches on initialize the two repos | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | plz help land these if there are no further problems | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/554766 | 14:34 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/560400 | 14:34 |
| zhipeng | Yumeng's ready to go, Shaohe still need the mercy from Zuul | 14:34 |
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| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/552734 | 14:35 |
| zhipeng | Li Liu's patch on the deployable data model finalization is also ready to go | 14:35 |
| Li_Liu | That's great, coz I am having another patch based on this one. | 14:36 |
| zhuli | still work in progress on the os-acc lib, I had intended to refer the os-brick spec but seems there is not one for that, so I'm still looking inside the openstack/os-brick source code try to find the interaction between cinder and nova, it cloud help to find the functionality cyborg needed, will try to post a spec these days | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | zhuli many thanks | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | okey next | 14:38 |
| zhipeng | #topic Vancouver Summit Prep | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver Summit Prep (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:38 | |
| zhipeng | anyone plan to attend the summit ? | 14:38 |
| Coco | Coco from lenovo beijing | 14:38 |
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| zhipeng | anyone else ? | 14:39 |
| NokMikeR | sorry transiting space and time, what was the question? | 14:40 |
| Coco | We have a session with Rushil before, but seems he will not go there. | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | Coco yes he'll skip that I guess | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | NokMikeR will you be at Vancouver Summit ? | 14:40 |
| NokMikeR | No I wont be going | 14:40 |
| Coco | zhenghao, is also to be there. | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | Coco great :) | 14:41 |
| zhipeng | Li_Liu you got the funding yet ? | 14:41 |
| Li_Liu | I am not sure yet, need to check with my boss... | 14:42 |
| Li_Liu | no promises... | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | okey we have told Steven Yuan about the cyborg project | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | so I think if that came through you could claim the funding there | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | but anyways | 14:43 |
| Li_Liu | ok | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | Again I will probably not be there, so Li Liu might be the only core team member present at the summit | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | He will be representing me doing the Project Update, and also Forum sessions | 14:44 |
| Coco | I knew a girl from ZTE, she sail he would attend the summit too. | 14:44 |
| Coco | she | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | Yes Yumeng will be there | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | Okey speaking of Forum | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | the deadline of forum topic proposal is Apr 15th | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | plz feel free to propose any topic you want to discuss regarding cyborg | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | Sundar already submitted one on FPGA | 14:45 |
| zhipeng | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Vancouver2018 | 14:47 |
| Duth | Is the abstract of Sundar's paper available for review? | 14:47 |
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| zhipeng | Duth do you mean his spec or the forum topic proposal ? | 14:47 |
| zhipeng | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/90 | 14:48 |
| zhipeng | for example Sundar's proposal | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | remember forum proposal does not require the consensus from the group, so if you got any ideas want to share or discuss, just feel free to directly propose it | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | okey moving on | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | #storyboad migration | 14:51 |
| zhipeng | #topic storyboad migration | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storyboad migration (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 14:52 | |
| Coco | can we use remotable accelerators in cyborg. | 14:52 |
| Coco | ? | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | please be aware that we are no longer using launchpad | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | Coco we want to be able to do that | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | and the os-acc will be part of the solution to make that happen | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | back to topic | 14:53 |
| kosamara | Not using launchpad for anything anymore? | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | kosamara yes that is correct | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | from now on, all the bug report, blueprint and so forth | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | plz submit it onto storyboard | 14:54 |
| zhipeng | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/77 | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | okey | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | #topic AoB | 14:56 |
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| zhipeng | any other business we want to discuss ? | 14:56 |
| kosamara | I checked the vGPU spec | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | kosamara plz continue | 14:56 |
| kosamara | Comparing it with https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Cyborg-Nova-Multifunction | 14:57 |
| kosamara | it is basically implementing the D2 case in nova. | 14:57 |
| NokMikeR | aob: an update or documentation on the install of cyborg with devstack would be great to see. | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | but i think they were not able to actually fully do the D2 case right ? | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | NokMikeR yes that would be part of the doc subteam's priority :) | 14:58 |
| kosamara | Do you mean something specific out of D2? | 14:58 |
| zhipeng | kosamara yes like Alex Xu commented | 14:59 |
| NokMikeR | or a script that magically installs it is equally welcome. | 14:59 |
| zhipeng | NokMikeR duly noted :) | 14:59 |
| NokMikeR | lol | 14:59 |
| kosamara | Yes, in their proposal it's a static configuration. | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | yep | 15:00 |
| kosamara | Each compute node needs to specify a mapping between gpu/vgpu_profile in a config file. | 15:00 |
| kosamara | But I understood this static case to be the difference between D2 and B2 (orchestration). | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | yes basically | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | kosamara do you think if it is possible to improve the static configuration ? | 15:04 |
| zhipeng | i mean in cyborg | 15:05 |
| kosamara | The difference that I see between their proposal and Sundar's is that they are based on a static config, while Sundar relies on Placement traits. | 15:06 |
| zhipeng | Sundar's proposal will need something like preferred trait | 15:06 |
| kosamara | That means that Cyborg could implement Sundar's proposal as an alternative to the nova proposal, supporting a slightly different use case. | 15:07 |
| kosamara | Yes. | 15:07 |
| edleafe | Preferred traits are a long way off in Placement | 15:07 |
| zhipeng | edleafe exactly | 15:07 |
| kosamara | But D1/2 doesn't need preferred traits necessarily | 15:07 |
| zhipeng | kosamara any chance you could write down some of your thoughts on this matter ? | 15:08 |
| zhipeng | I think this could also be good to PoC :P | 15:08 |
| kosamara | The flavor could require a particular vgpu profile as a trait, and then, as Sundar's proposal goes, Cyborg removes the incompatible traits from the resource provider that was picked by nova's scheduler. | 15:09 |
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| kosamara | Well a PoC is a bigger discussion. I'll start actually playing with vGPUs next week. RHEL 7.5 introduces support in kvm. | 15:10 |
| zhipeng | sounds great :) | 15:10 |
| kosamara | Initially I want to try out the nova proposal, and after that I can experiment with something else. | 15:11 |
| kosamara | Does that fit with the rocky schedule? | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | kosamara I think so | 15:11 |
| Coco | Kosamara, we are doing the same thing now... | 15:12 |
| kosamara | OK. So for a PoC we can talk again in ~10 days. I'll write some of these on Sundar's etherpad. Did you mean to write them somewhere else too? | 15:12 |
| zhipeng | kosamara actually would be great to have an independant spec | 15:13 |
| kosamara | Coco you mean trying vGPU with RHEL 7.5 | 15:13 |
| kosamara | ? | 15:13 |
| kosamara | I don't have any full-scale alternative proposal, I just compared nova's proposal with Sundar's. What would you expect in an independent spec? | 15:16 |
| zhipeng | for example on the D2 case , or vGPU, what we could offer differently | 15:16 |
| zhipeng | it does not need to be a full scale one | 15:16 |
| zhipeng | since we will rely on Jianghua's spec as well | 15:17 |
| kosamara | I think that Cyborg doesn't need to do 2 things for D2. The alternative to Sundar's is the nova spec (jianghua), which doesn't need cyborg. Cyborg adds the interplay with the extra Placement traits, which is nice for a little extra flex in D2. | 15:18 |
| zhipeng | kosamara agree, what I meant is the overall vGPU data model could still follow Jianghua's, cyborg's own extra twist might come from your spec :) | 15:20 |
| kosamara | ok... | 15:20 |
| zhipeng | anyways, if you got the bandwidth :) | 15:20 |
| zhipeng | it is not an imposition by any means :) | 15:21 |
| kosamara | It's just that I'm a bit confused, not a lack of will :) Once I get to it, I'll drop you an email to discuss. | 15:21 |
| zhipeng | haha sounds good :) After Sundar update the spec I think we could make it more clearer | 15:22 |
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| zhipeng | so if there is nothing more to discuss | 15:23 |
| zhipeng | we could conclude the meeting now :) | 15:23 |
| NokMikeR | nothing more here, thanks Howard/all. | 15:24 |
| kosamara | nor here | 15:24 |
| kosamara | sorry, just an update | 15:24 |
| kosamara | Does devstack build now? | 15:24 |
| zhipeng | yes i think so | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | but it took a lot time I think | 15:25 |
| kosamara | I'll try again then. Cool! | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | once we have the CLI up it will be definitely more easier to play around instead of curl it lol | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | kosamara if you run into any problem, storyboard or just yell it on irc :P | 15:26 |
| kosamara | ok | 15:26 |
| zhipeng | okey then folks, meeting adjourned | 15:27 |
| zhipeng | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 15:27:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-04-11-13.59.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-04-11-13.59.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2018/openstack_cyborg.2018-04-11-13.59.log.html | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/cyborg master: uncap eventlet https://review.openstack.org/560486 | 16:00 |
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