Wednesday, 2022-02-09

strigazi#startmeeting magnum09:02
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strigazi#topic Roll Call09:02
strigazio/09:02
daleeso/09:02
strigaziHello dalees , first time in this meeting?09:03
daleesYes, I'm working at Catalyst Cloud on Magnum now Fei Long has moved on.09:04
strigazidalees: nice09:05
daleesI think we met in Barcelona Kubecon, Ricardo introduced us a few years back.09:05
daleesanyway, hi!09:05
gbialaso/09:06
strigazidalees: I remember it, I couldn't tell from the irc nick09:06
strigazio/ gbialas 09:06
strigazi#topic Stories/Tasks09:08
strigazi#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting09:08
strigazi(dalees: Ricardo says hi, he's next to me)09:09
strigazigbialas: I managed to merge some of your patches last week09:10
strigaziAnd I have pushed 827668: fcos-k8s: Update to v1.22 | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/magnum/+/82766809:10
gbialasYes, I saw that. Huuuge thank for this. 09:10
gbialasThis is also very handy :) 09:11
strigaziI will bump it to 1.23, it shouldn't need anything else09:11
strigazihave a look at it if you can09:11
daleesstrigazi, :-)09:11
strigazigbialas: let's try to update to 1.23.3 and then merge the rest of the patches?09:13
gbialasstrigazi: 1.23.3 -> you mean k8s version ?09:15
strigazigbialas: yes09:15
gbialasOk. We can do this. 09:15
strigazithe patch above, 1.22 was the main painpoint since it deprecated quite some apis09:16
tobias-urdino/09:16
strigazitobias-urdin: \o09:17
gbialasYeah, I see that it do a lot more that just "update to v.1.22" :) 09:17
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strigazigbialas: api version changes bite in many places09:18
mnasiadkao/ - sorry for being late09:18
gbialasstrigazi:  Yeah, I know how it looks. 09:19
strigazimnasiadka: \o09:19
strigaziI think we are done with reviews from last week, let's move to:09:21
strigazi#topic Open Discussion09:21
* dalees is pleased to see FCOS `35.20220116.3.0` in there too.09:21
strigaziFor the ClusterAPI driver, since Stig is not here we can skip. But have a look at it 824488: Add Cluster API Kubernetes COE driver | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/magnum-specs/+/82448809:23
strigaziAnyone wants to bring something up? 09:24
mnasiadkaI saw some old change trying to stop using hyperkube - is there a plan to do anything with it? Current situation is a bit sub-optimal I would say ;-) (fresh kubernetes versions not working out of the box without hyperkube_prefix/kube_tag settings)09:24
strigazimnasiadka: IMO, since we plan to use CAPI and we can get updated hyperkube builds from rancher easily, we can leave it as it is09:25
mnasiadkaok then09:25
strigazimnasiadka: we can set the default to the rancher build 09:26
jakeyipo/ sorry I'm late, getting used to TZ changes09:26
mnasiadkabut for CAPI a user would need a pre-existing k8s cluster to deploy, which changes things a bit09:26
mnasiadkastrigazi: would make sense, since the current default probably is EOL version of Kubernetes09:26
strigazimnasiadka: I added an entry for the next meeting09:28
strigazimnasiadka: in the agenda https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting09:28
mnasiadkastrigazi: I see it, have it opened :)09:29
daleesI've got a couple of (basic) questions.09:30
strigazimnasiadka: for the CAPI driver that needs an existing k8s cluster, maybe leave a comment in the spec? I think it can be bring your own cluster or use a magnum cluster 09:31
mnasiadkastrigazi: will do09:31
strigazijakeyip: \o09:32
strigazidalees: shoot09:32
daleesHow many others in magnum community are using rolling upgrade vs recreate clusters? I'm currently interested in FCOS35 as there's a kernel CVE fixed in there, and have found a couple of rolling upgrade bugs to fix.09:33
strigazidalees: we (at CERN), always recreate09:34
strigazidalees: we suggest user to leverage LBs (openstack manage or not) to redirect the workloads09:34
tobias-urdinwe've had to recreate customers clusters when moving to rancher hyperkube images :(09:35
tobias-urdineven though we just wanted to get a newer k8s to labels and upgrade09:35
tobias-urdinadded some info to meeting agenda09:35
jakeyipwe (Nectar) haven't tested out rolling upgrades properly, so we don't recommend09:35
tobias-urdin(we've previously been able to upgrade when using old community hyperkube images)09:36
daleesok, interesting - thanks. maybe explains some of the codebase author sections :). When I have some patchsets created for these fixes, can I just link against story https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008628 or should I use/create another?09:36
strigazitobias-urdin: we can replicate the images to our registry, would this help?09:37
strigazitobias-urdin: from docker.io/rancher to docker.io/openstackmagnum 09:37
tobias-urdinhmm, i'm not really sure but i don't think it would solve it, i don't think it defaults to using docker.io/openstackmagnum on existing clusters09:37
daleesstrigazi, is docker.io/openstackmagnum zero rated for image pulls, or normal unauth'd pull limits apply?09:38
strigazitobias-urdin: indeed, it's the old official repo09:39
strigazidalees: limits apply, which is an issue for the heat-agent09:40
daleesstrigazi, ack09:41
strigazi@all, Do you think we should mirror the heat agent to another registry? quay.io or ghcr.io or both09:47
jakeyiphosting on a non rate limited registry will be nice, but are there any users currently impacted by this? afaict most cloud providers seems to have their own registry?09:49
daleeswe're working to solve the pull limits issue with an internally hosted registry, so it affects us now but won't soon.09:49
strigazi@all Anything else to bring up?09:53
strigazilet's end the meeting then, see you next week!09:56
strigazi#endmeeting09:56
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gbialasSee you!!!09:57
tobias-urdinthanks, see you later :)09:57
daleesThanks, I will bring more silly questions next week. Good to meet you all.09:57
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opendevreviewStavros Moiras proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Cluster config update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-magnumclient/+/78868923:17
opendevreviewStavros Moiras proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Cluster config update  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-magnumclient/+/78868923:20

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