Wednesday, 2020-04-22

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brtknrflwang1: morning!05:19
flwang1morning to you, what's your time now?05:19
brtknror evening!05:19
brtknr6:19 :)05:19
flwang1ah, it's 17.19 here05:19
brtknrI went to bed early with the babies05:20
brtknrNice!05:20
openstackgerritBharat Kunwar proposed openstack/magnum master: [ci] Use Fedora CoreOS image for devstack plugin  https://review.opendev.org/72126505:21
openstackgerritBharat Kunwar proposed openstack/magnum master: [ci] Use magnum-tempest-plugin-tests-api  https://review.opendev.org/72021605:21
flwang1brtknr: as for this one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718296/  the docker storage05:23
flwang1are you guys still preferring to have the devicemapper support for fc?05:23
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brtknrflwang1: It does not seem fair to silently drop support :)05:24
flwang1brtknr: ok, i will add it then05:24
brtknrflwang1: is it straightforward?05:24
flwang1but i would say it's not siliently05:24
flwang1given we didn't add it when we have the fcos driver05:25
flwang1and it's already deprecated05:25
flwang1in other words, we never support it in the new driver since day105:25
brtknrthe equivalent code for atomic adds config to docker config: https://review.opendev.org/gitweb?p=openstack/magnum.git;a=blob;f=magnum/drivers/common/templates/fragments/configure_docker_storage_driver_atomic.sh;h=ee1aaba5fdb25dcfe965a502e52e6d90dada04a5;hb=refs/changes/96/718296/4#l3105:26
brtknrdo we not need that?05:26
brtknrfor overlay05:26
flwang1brtknr: afaik, there is no /etc/sysconfig/docker-storage in fcos05:28
brtknrflwang1: how can we be sure we are getting overlay2 in that case?05:29
flwang1because the default docker version is v18.0905:29
flwang1and the devicemapper is deprecated in that version05:29
brtknrah we are assuming it is already overlay05:29
flwang1so i can't see any reason why we have to support it05:29
flwang1[core@k8s-2-ry6qqdgkk6h3-master-0 ~]$ sudo docker info05:29
flwang1Containers: 005:29
flwang1 Running: 005:29
flwang1 Paused: 005:29
flwang1 Stopped: 005:29
flwang1Images: 005:29
flwang1Server Version: 18.09.805:29
flwang1https://docs.docker.com/engine/deprecated/#device-mapper-storage-driver05:30
flwang1Device mapper storage driverDeprecated in Release: v18.09.005:30
flwang1maybe i should make it more clear in the patch as a comment05:30
brtknri think the user should get some kind of feedback if its unsupported05:30
brtknre.g. devicemapper not supported05:30
flwang1we can put it into the release note05:31
flwang1but i don't think we should support it in code05:31
brtknri think Spyros may have concerns about his users who still rely on devicemapper?05:32
brtknrdid you see his comment about deprecation window for Magnum?05:32
brtknrMaybe we can leave this for now, make it clear in the reno that devicemapper via the API will be dropped in the next cycle?05:33
flwang1i see, but that's for a feature you already supported05:33
flwang1that doesn't fit this case05:34
brtknrflwang1: you're right05:34
flwang1changing the default driver in api is another case05:34
flwang1we're mixing the two cases in the patch05:34
brtknrHmm IDK how/where to make it clear that we will be deprecating support for devicemapper+overlay on the API05:38
flwang1release note for sure05:39
flwang1and log05:39
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flwang1but again, i think the official deprecation note could/should be in a separate patch05:41
flwang1brtknr: i just add a new comment05:45
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brtknrflwang1: thanks, is there a meeting today btw?06:48
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flwang1brtknr: i will be there08:17
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Fix no IP address in api_address  https://review.opendev.org/72179108:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-magnumclient master: Support updating cluster health status  https://review.opendev.org/71334408:39
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Scrape internal kubernetes components  https://review.opendev.org/72128408:54
strigazimeeting?08:57
strigazibrtknr: flwang1: ttsiouts:08:58
brtknrflwang1: lets add the deprechi08:59
brtknrhi08:59
brtknrflwang1 said he'd be here08:59
flwang1#startmeeting magnum09:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 22 09:01:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'magnum'09:01
flwang1#topic roll call09:01
cosmicsoundhi09:01
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strigazio/09:01
strigazittsiouts: brtknr: ping09:02
flwang1o/09:02
brtknro/09:02
brtknrcosmicsound: ?09:02
flwang1thanks for joining, guys09:02
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flwang1let's go through today's agenda09:03
flwang1https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting09:03
flwang1#topic CI09:03
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flwang1brtknr: ^09:03
flwang1anything we need to discuss about CI?09:03
strigaziyes09:04
strigazithere are four patches09:04
strigazimaybe help with some context09:04
strigaziare they ready for input from non zuul people?09:04
brtknr5 patches, including the one in devstack: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:magnum-tempest-plugin-tests-api+(status:open+OR+status:merged)09:04
brtknryep its all ready09:05
brtknras of this morning :)09:05
flwang1strigazi: will those patches can run our tempest in CI?09:05
strigazimore ci09:05
ttsioutso/09:05
ttsioutssorry for being late09:05
strigazibrtknr: is there an order?09:05
flwang1based on my understanding, we still need the nested virt to run magnum tempest to deploy a k8s cluster09:06
brtknrstrigazi: there is order based on depends-on09:06
strigazii'll figure it out09:07
dioguerrao/09:07
flwang1brtknr: strigazi: please correct me if i'm wrong09:07
brtknrflwang1: this is the function-api test only, we can worry about functional-k8s test later09:07
flwang1not really09:08
brtknralthough functional-k8s works for me locally09:08
strigaziflwang1: i don't epxect the CI to work for spinning clusters. I'm happy to take the patches to conform with zuul09:08
flwang1strigazi: that's my question actually09:08
flwang1i don't think it could work09:08
flwang1though it may be able to cover some very simple api test09:09
strigazibut in any case, as brtknr mentioned in storyboard, we need this for zuul09:09
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flwang1strigazi: agree, good to have09:10
strigaziI'm a bit lost with them but I'll figure it out09:10
strigaziI'm covered for this topic, thx brtknr09:11
flwang1#topic Scrape internal kubernetes components - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721284/09:11
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flwang1anything we need to discuss for this one?09:12
dioguerraThere are this 3 patches id like to merge before i move with the rest09:12
dioguerraas they will conflict.09:13
flwang1dioguerra: is there any dep between there?09:14
flwang1do you have a recommendation about the review order?09:14
dioguerraNot dependency but they interact in the same file.09:15
brtknrstrigazi: i have made a list of dependencies in the meeting notes09:15
brtknrfor the ci09:16
flwang1brtknr: thanks, that's helpful09:16
dioguerraorder can be anyone i guess. not one specific but leave https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721592/ for last09:16
dioguerraand this one first https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720196/09:16
ttsioutsdioguerra: just rebase the changes on top of each other09:17
ttsioutsto give clear indication to the reviewers as to what has to be reviewed in what order09:17
ttsioutsthis way you won't have conflicts between your changes09:17
dioguerraok09:18
flwang1ok, except those 3 patches related to prometheus , there are not much on the agenda09:18
flwang1brtknr: strigazi: anything else you want you discuss?09:18
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strigazigit review -x <six digts from url> # with this you can cherry-pick09:18
strigaziand stack the patches09:18
flwang1we're on RC1, we need to have a general idea about the features/fixes we want for U cycle09:19
strigaziflwang1: let's discuss override-lables09:19
strigazi*labels09:19
strigazilet's discuss U after?09:21
strigaziflwang1: ^^09:21
flwang1sure09:22
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strigazibrtknr: ttsiouts: is the PoC the final proposal? Shall we agree and move one with it?09:23
brtknri am happy with the PoC personally!09:24
ttsioutsstrigazi: I have no problem if we all agree it could be it09:24
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ttsioutsstrigazi: what do you think?09:24
brtknrI am happy to hear reasons it could present problems later09:24
flwang1can you please help me understand the extra overriden_labels here?09:24
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brtknrflwang1: have you played around with the PoC patches yet?09:25
strigaziI'm ok with PoC, the sooner we have it merged the better.09:25
flwang1no09:25
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brtknrflwang1: it may make sense when you try it, it didnt make intuitive sense to me either09:25
ttsioutsflwang1: the overridden_labels is just a field that is generated on cluster/nodegroup show09:25
ttsioutsflwang1: it contains the diff between the cluster and cluster_template labels or nodegroup and cluster labels09:26
flwang1ttsiouts: ok, then that's the answer for my question in comments09:27
ttsioutsflwang1: yes09:27
ttsioutsI proposed to PoC because this way we don't have to change the schema09:27
flwang1i'm OK with it09:28
flwang1my question for you guys is, are we going to get it in U?09:28
strigazias we want09:29
strigazi+1 from me09:29
brtknrshould we hold back the release until it merges?09:29
brtknrttsiouts: how long do you think it will take you polish it off?09:29
flwang1brtknr: we don't have to hold back the rc1 actually09:29
strigazi+1 ^^09:30
flwang1i'm ok to get it in U, my only requirement is  pls updating the api ref09:30
ttsioutsbrtknr: I can quickly fix some things by tomorrow and have it ready by Friday09:30
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ttsioutsbrtknr: I mean for proper review09:31
strigazimaybe do the spec first?09:31
ttsioutsstrigazi: oh yes. forgot about the spec09:31
strigazior in parallel09:31
ttsioutsI could start from the spec maybe to agree on the details. is that ok?09:32
strigazi+209:32
flwang1+109:32
brtknrsure09:32
ttsioutsgreat!09:32
strigaziJust to have it written09:32
strigaziand not look at code documentation :)09:32
ttsioutsthank you guys for your time!09:32
brtknrthank you!09:33
brtknri have 1 more topic for discussion, helm v309:33
flwang1brtknr: pls continue09:35
brtknrdo you think the best thing is to have a new namespace for helmv3?09:35
strigaziyes09:36
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brtknrok09:36
brtknri will try and update the patch today09:36
strigazithis was it?09:36
brtknrhave you guys had a chance to test it yet by any chance?09:37
strigazino me09:38
flwang1your v3 patch? not yet09:38
strigaziis it ready for testing?09:38
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brtknrthe other option i was thinking was to rename tiller namespace to HELM_NAMESPACE defaulting to magnum-helm09:38
strigazilet's not do renames :) news things are better :(09:39
flwang1+1 for new namespace09:39
brtknrok09:39
brtknrdo we want it to be configurable via a label too?09:39
strigaziboth work for me09:40
brtknrok09:40
brtknrthat gives me enough to get going09:40
brtknryes the PS works for helmv3, just not polished yet09:41
brtknrso fine for testing09:41
flwang1let's move on?09:41
strigazi+109:42
flwang1strigazi: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718296/ docker storage for FC , are you OK without the support of devicemapper for FC?09:43
strigazi+109:43
flwang1and I can propose another patch to add a separate release note and warning in logs for the deprecation of devicemapper09:43
flwang1then we can change the default value in V cycle09:43
brtknr+209:44
flwang1thank you09:44
brtknrwhen should we have a virtual PTG for V cycle?09:44
strigazis/when// ?09:44
flwang1when for what? a following patch?09:44
flwang1i will do it tomorrow09:44
brtknrshould we have a virtual PTG for V cycle?09:45
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flwang1sure09:45
strigaziI don't think we need to have a long one09:45
flwang1i think 2hours max09:45
strigaziDo we expect anyone that is not here now to attend?09:46
flwang1hmm, yes09:46
strigaziwe do? who?09:46
flwang1i'd like to invite all exisitng adopters09:46
brtknrPerhaps we should announce it on ML09:47
flwang1we will09:47
strigazibut will they join? :)09:47
brtknrwe'll find out09:47
flwang1let's try09:47
flwang1let's try 6 May?09:47
brtknrwe have a lot of shadow users09:47
flwang1after 2 weeks09:47
flwang1UTC9:00- 11:00AM?09:47
brtknrsounds good09:47
strigaziI don't want to be too negative, let's do it09:48
flwang1strigazi: the worst case is they won't join, that's ok09:49
flwang1strigazi: anything you want to talk about the the RC?09:49
strigaziflwang1: actually no, we can move with rc1 and add what we *need* and want to add09:50
brtknri havent tested the master branch recently, hopefully nothing is broken09:50
flwang1cool09:50
flwang1for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/714021/ the dashboard 2.0.0,  if there is no GA, until we have to GA, are you guys happy with a rc version now? e.g. v2.0.0-rc7?09:51
strigazi+109:51
strigaziis it on by default?09:51
flwang1yes09:52
flwang1IIRC09:52
strigazibut we can disable with the label09:52
flwang1sure09:52
strigazifine for me, for gor it09:52
strigazifine for me, go for it09:52
flwang1we can easily update the version as long as it GA later, not a big deal TBH09:52
flwang1ok, cool09:52
flwang1i will update the patch09:52
strigaziLast thing from me, when you are done09:53
flwang1i'm good09:53
strigazirecently I abandoned all patches openstack/magnum (not updated for 30d) and brtknr abandoned some patches in openstack/python-magnumclient when I mentioned it.09:54
strigaziI'll do the same with all tasks in storyboard if there is not udpate in the last 30d if you agree09:55
flwang1strigazi: i'm ok with that09:55
brtknri think 30d might be too short, maybe 2m?09:55
brtknr60d09:55
strigaziI'll do it right now.09:56
strigaziI prefer 30d, I don't think 3 people have the capacity to review all that properly.09:56
strigaziWe are not vetoing against anything09:57
flwang1i generally only review the code patches :)09:57
brtknrmark them as invalid?09:57
strigaziif there is anything iportant, people can speak up. Maybe flwang1 we'll manage to review storyboard as well if the backlog is small09:57
brtknrstrigazi: what will we set the status to ?09:58
brtknrinvalid?09:58
strigaziyes. I have a feeling that you will start doing it.09:58
brtknrthere is no "stale" label lathough it would be useful09:58
flwang1strigazi: +109:58
brtknri wont touch it09:59
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Fix no IP address in api_address  https://review.opendev.org/72179109:59
brtknri promise09:59
strigaziI will share the code of the client09:59
flwang1ok, anything else?09:59
flwang1we're running out of time10:00
strigazii'm good10:00
flwang1brtknr: ?10:00
brtknrnope all good10:00
flwang1thank you, guys10:00
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flwang1#endmeeting10:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Containers Team | Meeting: every Wednesday @ 9AM UTC | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting"10:00
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flwang1have a good day and take care10:00
brtknrwe talking about scraping internal components for a long time!10:01
brtknryou too, good night :)10:01
strigazibrtknr: let's have the agenda next week ready 48h in advance and stick to topic changes :)10:01
brtknrsounds good strigazi, have a good day!10:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum stable/train: Fix ServerAddressOutputMapping for private clusters  https://review.opendev.org/72174710:16
brtknrstrigazi: are you still there?10:20
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: Deploy traefik from the heat-agent  https://review.opendev.org/72183811:59
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Update prometheus monitoring chart and images  https://review.opendev.org/72125912:25
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Scrape internal kubernetes components  https://review.opendev.org/72128412:25
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Configurable prometheus monitoring persistent storage  https://review.opendev.org/72157212:25
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Configure monitoring apps path based endpoints  https://review.opendev.org/72159212:25
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Expose autoscaler prometheus metrics  https://review.opendev.org/72019612:26
openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Scrape traefik and autoscaler metrics  https://review.opendev.org/72156112:26
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: Deploy traefik from the heat-agent  https://review.opendev.org/72183814:32
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openstackgerritBharat Kunwar proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Build helm-client containers v2.16.6 and v3.1.2  https://review.opendev.org/72214621:11
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flwang1brtknr: omg, you're still around?21:22
brtknrflwang1: haha21:24
brtknrues21:24
brtknrworking on the helmv3 patch21:24
flwang1brtknr: take care21:25
flwang1brtknr: did you get a chance to play with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/718296/ ?21:25
brtknr:( no, had a busy non-magnum day21:27
brtknrhence spending some time on it this evening21:27
flwang1brtknr: no problem, pls leave comments if there is anything21:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum master: Deploy traefik from the heat-agent  https://review.opendev.org/72183822:11
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: Deprecation note for devicemapper  https://review.opendev.org/72216322:32
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