Tuesday, 2019-01-29

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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Keystone auth support  https://review.openstack.org/62309202:07
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Keystone auth support  https://review.openstack.org/62309202:21
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Keystone auth support  https://review.openstack.org/62309202:53
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: Support multi k8s image versions  https://review.openstack.org/63365003:49
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: Support multi k8s image versions  https://review.openstack.org/63365007:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum stable/queens: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63306410:53
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] [k8s] helm install metrics service  https://review.openstack.org/63239210:57
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] [k8s] helm install metrics service  https://review.openstack.org/63239214:46
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openstackgerritKeith Berger proposed openstack/magnum stable/pike: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63375514:58
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colby_flwang: for what its worth, its just the minions joining the cluster that is the problem. Im seeing the error on the minion only. I can run get nodes on master and it just returns the master nodes. This worked fine with cluster_user_trust=False. But then trustID is never set in the openstack config and I cant use cinder volumes in kubernetes. I switched that config to attempt to use cinder volumes for pvc's and now the minions dont join with17:37
colby_the error I gave before. Do you want the magnum conductor logs or logs from the the actual nodes?17:37
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colby_it appears to get the availibility zone from the cloud providor calls: Adding node label from cloud provider: failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone=West Datacenter17:59
colby_then fails when joining the cluster: invalid: metadata.labels: Invalid value: "West Datacenter"17:59
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openstackgerritKeith Berger proposed openstack/magnum stable/pike: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63375520:26
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strigazimeeting anyone?21:01
cbrummI'm here, not sure who else it21:02
strigazi#startmeeting containers21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 29 21:02:26 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
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strigazi#topic Roll Call21:02
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cbrummo/21:02
strigazio/21:02
jakeyipo/21:02
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imdigitaljimo/21:04
strigazi#topic Stories/Tasks21:04
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strigaziFrom my side:21:05
strigazik8s v1.11.6 images rebuilt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633478/21:05
strigazi(v1.11.7 was out just yesterday)21:06
strigazitiller deployment can be taken in, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612336/21:06
imdigitaljimfrom us:21:07
strigazitwo patches for upgrades: add openssh clients to the heat-agent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633504/ AND add the agent to all nodes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561858/21:07
imdigitaljimwe just got kubernetes org approval to submit21:07
imdigitaljimso we might have some openstack-ccm updates to provide in the near future21:08
imdigitaljimcluster autoscaler work and inplace upgrades for the centos driver21:08
imdigitaljimonce this is in place and stable ill be making effort to upstreaming the driver21:08
imdigitaljimwe run v1.13.2 atm as well21:09
imdigitaljimwe also want to finalize any core magnum changes we'd probably need to do21:09
strigaziimdigitaljim: please build also the ci for the special centos image.21:10
imdigitaljimcluster-autoscaler work is k8s specific (mostly), trivial driver changes if any i forget21:10
colin-o/21:10
imdigitaljimyes i definitely will21:10
imdigitaljimmake an mvp centos CI21:10
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imdigitaljimalthough strigazi: i might need some help getting that setup im unfamiliar21:11
imdigitaljimto connect with existing stuff to be easily consumed21:12
strigazifor the cluster-autoscaler I'm testing our own https://github.com/cernops/autoscaler/pull/321:12
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imdigitaljimill forward to our cas man21:12
strigaziI'm giving priority to that one.21:12
flwangsorry, i'm late21:12
colin-nice strigazi looks like a lot of progress21:13
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flwangstrigazi: what are we discussing?21:15
flwangi'd like to discuss the k8s image versions we support, related to patch https://review.openstack.org/63365021:16
strigaziflwang: looks ok, maybe we can use the vars file21:16
strigaziother than that it is ok21:17
strigaziflwang: what do you think?21:17
flwangstrigazi: use vars is also ok for me and it's more clean i think, i will propose another patchset21:18
strigaziflwang: thanks, building all of them is fine21:19
strigaziI have another thing I want to discuss21:19
strigaziWe have an issue in k8s_fedora21:19
strigazimaybe in centos that imdigitaljim is solved21:19
strigazik8s uostrean beeds three CAs21:20
strigaziCA= certificate authority not cluster autoscaler21:20
strigazione  for etcd21:20
strigazione for front-proxy21:20
strigaziand one for the API21:20
strigaziIn magnum we create only one.21:20
strigaziIn the same manner that we create the service account keys, we need two more CAs.21:21
flwangwhat's the affection now?21:22
flwangaffection/impact i mean21:22
strigaziFor example, a new feature like the metrics-server doesn't work correctly21:22
flwangis there any security hole now?21:22
strigazisee here:21:22
imdigitaljimoh?21:22
imdigitaljimhelm chart metrics server?21:23
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/632392/21:23
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/632392/4/magnum/drivers/common/templates/kubernetes/fragments/configure-kubernetes-master.sh@7521:23
strigaziThis option kind of works21:23
strigazibut the proper thing to do is to have tree CAs21:23
strigazisee docs here:21:23
strigazihttps://github.com/kubernetes/website/blob/master/content/en/docs/setup/certificates.md21:24
flwangso you mean though we can use the current, only one, CA, but we'd better to create 3, right?21:25
strigaziinstalling the metrics-server with helm or not, it doesn'r matter21:25
strigaziflwang: yes21:25
strigaziquoting docs: You can create a single root CA, controlled by an administrator. This root CA can then create multiple intermediate CAs, and delegate all further creation to Kubernetes itself.21:25
imdigitaljimyeah21:26
imdigitaljim1 CA is okay21:26
strigazihaving these three CAs would make the transition to kubeadm ~trivial21:26
imdigitaljim3 CA is better21:26
flwangstrigazi: i see21:26
strigazikubeadm will try to create these three CAs.21:26
flwangstrigazi: so i think it's important but not urgent issue21:26
strigaziif you provide them it will use them21:27
flwangcool21:27
imdigitaljimalso note: we dont use kubeadm at this time21:27
imdigitaljimin case you were wondering21:27
imdigitaljimtheres a few issues in using kubeadm that we need to be better before/if we transition to them21:27
imdigitaljimi think they are publicly listed in their design docs21:28
strigazikubeadm or not, to use API aggregators we need to deploy front-proxy certs properly21:28
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum stable/pike: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63375521:29
strigazidocs for front proxy: https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/access-kubernetes-api/configure-aggregation-layer/21:31
imdigitaljimWarning: Do not reuse a CA that is used in a different context unless you understand the risks and the mechanisms to protect the CA’s usage.21:32
imdigitaljim:D21:32
imdigitaljimi see your concern21:32
openstackgerritKeith Berger proposed openstack/magnum stable/pike: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63375521:32
strigaziI can mention a horrible side-effect of using one CA. using the same CA to sign certs for kubelets and etcd, means compromise of kubelet certs gives access to etcd.21:33
imdigitaljimsure21:34
strigaziprovided that there is a route from from the kubelet node to etcd21:34
imdigitaljimpreventing lateral movement is always good21:34
strigazisame for the etcd that calico uses21:34
imdigitaljimill probably start working on solving some of these in the upcoming weeks21:35
imdigitaljimgood point out strigazi21:35
colin-yeah. been working on Octavia on the side and have been going through this due to all the CAs it uses to secure communications between components21:35
colin-and wanting them to be signed uniquely by service made deployment more complex but ultimately better for the security, imo21:36
strigaziit is a ~chicken-egg problem. Who sings whose certs :)21:37
imdigitaljimwe were looking at other solutions like vault as a CA21:38
imdigitaljimand such21:38
strigaziThe problem to cert management in kubernetes is more CAs21:38
imdigitaljimhttps://github.com/hashicorp/vault21:38
strigazis/problem/solution/21:38
imdigitaljimnot sure their CA capabilities21:38
strigaziAnything else anyone? (the day is ending for me)21:41
imdigitaljimnot here21:42
imdigitaljimo/21:42
strigaziflwang colin- jakeyip anything else?21:42
strigazijakeyip: for tempest python3, all good?21:43
jakeyipNothing to report :)21:43
strigazicool21:44
colin-nope21:44
strigazilet's end the meeting then21:45
colin-have a good night!21:45
strigazisee you next week21:45
strigazicolin-: cheers21:45
cbrummbye all21:45
strigazi#endmeeting21:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum stable/rocky: Support Keystone AuthN and AuthZ for k8s  https://review.openstack.org/63357122:13
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: Support multi k8s image versions  https://review.openstack.org/63365022:53
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colby_flwang: any suggestions for me? Is renaming our availability zone going to be our solution?23:31
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flwangcolby_: did you upgrade your cinder recently?23:55
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: Support multi k8s image versions  https://review.openstack.org/63365023:59

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