Tuesday, 2019-01-22

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openstackgerritErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/magnum master: Use oslo_serialization instead of the json module directly  https://review.openstack.org/63133100:28
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openstackgerritErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Use oslo_serialization instead of the json module directly  https://review.openstack.org/63108300:31
openstackgerritErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Use oslo_serialization instead of the json module directly  https://review.openstack.org/63108300:32
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openstackgerritAndriy Shevchenko proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Update min tox version to 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/63219502:36
openstackgerritAndriy Shevchenko proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Update min tox version to 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/63219502:37
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/magnum-ui master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/63225407:30
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yahrenslxkong: again refering to federation. Do you know why there is no ongoing work? Is it a resource issue (i.e. not enough manpower) or are there technical problems?08:54
yahrensI was looking at the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/federation-api) and the API itself seems to be finished08:54
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openstackgerritzhouxinyong proposed openstack/magnum master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss in setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/63236109:46
openstackgerritzhouxinyong proposed openstack/magnum-specs master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss in setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/63236309:48
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openstackgerritYannic Ahrens proposed openstack/python-magnumclient master: Use oslo for base64 encoding  https://review.openstack.org/63238410:15
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] [k8s] helm install metrics service  https://review.openstack.org/63239210:25
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lxkongyahrens: i'm not sure, maybe strigazi has the correct answer. But before that you could start testing and ask more concrete questions based on the result :-)11:05
strigaziyahrens The api is finished. There is no driver implementation. The contributor stop working on it. Plus k8s federation v2 is being reworked.11:09
strigaziyahrens: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/cluster-administration/federation/11:10
strigaziyahrens: There is no clear path to evolve the API to GA; however, there is a Federation V2 effort in progress to implement a dedicated federation API apart from the Kubernetes API.11:10
strigazilxkong: I'll check your patch tmr. I don't have time today.11:11
lxkongstrigazi: sure, thanks for response11:12
strigazilxkong: cheking quickly, there is not story and reno to manage backports11:12
strigazilxkong: We need the change so it will go in.11:13
lxkongstrigazi: ok, i will add all the those tomorrow :-)11:13
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Enable metrics-server access to apiserver  https://review.openstack.org/63206514:06
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Cleanup configure-kubernetes-master.sh format  https://review.openstack.org/63247614:29
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openstackgerritDiogo Guerra proposed openstack/magnum master: Code clean up for better legibility  https://review.openstack.org/63247614:40
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: k8s_fedora: Deploy tiller  https://review.openstack.org/61233615:04
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yahrensstrigazi: thanks for getting back to me! yeah, I'm aware of the v2 rework of k8s15:28
strigazicolby_: can you try with kube_tag=v1.11.5-1 ?15:29
yahrensstrigazi: context about me: I work for cloud&heat and we're already using magnum in one of our projects. We're also aiming to use cluster federations (ideally with magnum)15:29
yahrensstrigazi: and we're interested in contributing to magnum (whereever it makes sense)15:30
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strigaziyahrens: if you have cycles you can propose the driver solution for federation v2 leveraging the api already in-place15:31
strigaziyahrens: I haven't tried it, but in my team someone did. We can sync in gerrit15:31
yahrensstrigazi: that'd be nice. Right now I'm working on a hackish proof-of-concept in a standalone shell script15:33
strigaziyahrens: sounds like a reasonable first step15:33
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yahrensstrigazi: is launchpad still the right place to file bugs or did you already move to storyboard?15:46
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yahrensah! good to know15:48
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strigazimeeting?20:54
strigazicolby_: did you see my msg?20:55
colin-o/20:58
colin-oops i'm early20:58
strigazi#startmeeting containers21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 22 21:00:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'21:00
strigazi#topic Roll Call21:00
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strigazio/21:00
strigaziping eandersson lxkong colby_ brtknr21:01
jakeyipo/21:01
lxkongo/21:01
eanderssono/21:02
colin-imdigitaljim otw21:02
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strigazi#topic Announcements21:02
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strigazithanks to eandersson and jakeyip, we have the ci runnig with python3 by default.21:03
eandersson\o/21:03
colin-nice21:03
strigazi#topic Stories/Tasks21:03
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strigaziFrom my side, I have only the patch to add tiller for usage within magnum, not for end users unless they really try to use it:21:04
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/612336/21:04
strigaziIt deploys tiller only on master nodes, in a separate namespaces, with tls, and access to kube-system.21:05
strigaziTo better understand how it is deployed take a look in this section:21:05
strigazihttps://docs.helm.sh/using_helm/#example-deploy-tiller-in-a-namespace-restricted-to-deploying-resources-in-another-namespace21:07
strigaziand this one: https://docs.helm.sh/using_helm/#using-ssl-between-helm-and-tiller21:07
strigaziMy colleague Diogo is working on consuming it to deploy the metrics server which deprecates heapster and the prometheus operator21:08
strigazihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/629577/21:09
colin-have you been using prometheus much internally? curious how you find it. obviously it's wildly popular and has a lot to offer21:09
strigaziIf you are not familiar with k8s, the patch for tiller might seem complicated.21:09
colin-i've had positive experiences with it in the past21:09
strigazicolin-: limited experience so far without any issue but also no big challenges21:10
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imdigitaljimsorry im late! had workstation reimaged and had to reinstall IRC21:10
strigazicolin-: we work on a solution that an external service (probably another central prometheus) will consume the cluster prometheuses21:10
strigaziimdigitaljim: welcome21:11
strigazicolin-: makes sense?21:11
colin-understood. when it starts to take shape i am curious what KPIs from the clusters themselves will be collected21:11
lxkonghi guys, i have been working on octavia-ingress-controller integration(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631330/) and fixing a bug that deletes fip of the load balancer vip in octavia.21:12
strigazicolin-: cpu/ram/disk/network and when use cases become more serious, user should expose user-defined metrics21:13
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s_fedora_atomic] Delete floating ip for load balancer  https://review.openstack.org/63082021:14
strigazilxkong: I will take a look to ingress too21:14
lxkongstrigazi: thanks, i will write some doc this morning in that patch21:15
strigazilxkong: thanks21:17
cbrumm_lxkong - We maybe looking at that soon also21:17
lxkongcbrumm_: sounds great :-)21:17
lxkongcbrumm_: if you have any question relating to the octavia-ingress-controller, please let me know21:18
strigaziFYI, at CERN we will write out own "ingress" to complement traefik21:18
strigazis/out/our/21:19
cbrumm_lxkong - Are you sure you want that? colin- can be persistent21:19
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lxkongstrigazi: as more and more add-on components adding to magnum, i think we should find a plugable way for the implementation21:19
lxkongso give the users the option that they could do their own thing if it's not acceptable for the upstream21:20
lxkongcbrumm_ :-)21:20
strigazilxkong: helm can help :)21:20
lxkongstrigazi: i mean, deploy all the things during the cluster creation21:21
lxkongrather than leaving the setup things to the magnum user21:21
strigaziwe have a cern chart for our internal components, so we can just point to that chart to deploy at creation time21:22
lxkongthat's nice21:22
strigazinot for the user. for us21:22
strigaziyou can deploy this in ingress or anything else, packaged in a <corporate> downstream chart21:23
strigaziyou can deploy this ingress or anything else, packaged in a <corporate> downstream chart21:23
imdigitaljimlxkong: were working towards a complete driver that has high customizability, low operational costs, extra features, and improvements running on centos21:23
lxkongis the helm/charts mechanism supported in magnum aleady?21:24
imdigitaljimlooking to upstream it when we get to a satisfiable point21:24
strigazilxkong: 612336 62957721:24
lxkongstrigazi: thanks21:24
lxkong will take a look21:24
strigaziadding a hook for this is very easy21:24
strigaziI think the approach with a chart maintained in its repo to add extra components is very maintainable21:27
strigaziOr even a list of components deployed *on* kubernetes21:28
lxkongstrigazi: agree21:28
lxkongstrigazi: but can i stick with the current octavia-ingress-controller patch and maybe use the helm way for the future add-on?21:29
strigazisure21:29
lxkongcool21:29
strigaziAnything else you want to bring up?21:32
lxkongnot from me21:32
eanderssonI got a couple of follow up patches to the py3 patches, but nothing critical. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631083/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631331/21:32
strigazi+221:33
eanderssonIdeally I would like to move to dump_as_bytes for everything, but one step at a time.21:33
eanderssonthanks strigazi21:34
strigazieandersson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631331/10/magnum/drivers/common/templates/swarm/fragments/make-cert.py21:35
eanderssonIt was original on purpose as I changed import json21:35
eanderssonbut can revert that change to make it cleaner21:35
eandersson(I prefer two spaces but it's super nit)21:36
eandersson*new lines21:36
strigaziyou can leave it21:36
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colby_strigazi: yes sorry, I was out of office till today. I just spun up a cluster with that tag and will try again with cinder21:36
strigazicolby_: brtknr is bringing queens really close the current state. but with 1.11.5-1, it shoult work.21:37
strigaziIf there is anything else to discuss we can end the meeting21:40
strigaziobjections?21:41
colby_strigazi: ok great. Will that backport he linked to me be merged into a future release? I saw 6.3.0 just dropped.21:41
strigazicolby_: yes21:42
colby_thanks for responding back!21:44
colby_Ill let you know how my tests go21:44
strigazicool21:44
strigaziIt seems we are out of topics, thanks for joining everyone21:47
strigazisee you next week21:47
eanderssonThanks!21:47
lxkonghave a good day/night, everyone21:47
strigazi#endmeeting21:48
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colby_strigazi: does this kube version still need v6.3.0 or the backport to work? Im seeing: stat /etc/kubernetes/cloud-config: no such file or directory21:52
colby_it seems to be what that backport linked provides21:53
openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: [WIP] Support octavia-ingress-controller  https://review.openstack.org/63133021:53
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/magnum master: Delete loadbalancers and floatingips for service and ingress  https://review.openstack.org/63258022:53
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [fedora_atomic] Support auto healing for k8s  https://review.openstack.org/63137823:05
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openstackgerritKeith Berger proposed openstack/magnum stable/rocky: support http/https proxy for discovery url  https://review.openstack.org/63258123:35

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