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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Update cluster health status by native API  https://review.openstack.org/57289704:58
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Update cluster health status by native API  https://review.openstack.org/57289707:08
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Update cluster health status by native API  https://review.openstack.org/57289707:09
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openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Update cluster health status by native API  https://review.openstack.org/57289708:38
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flwang1strigazi: as for your question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572897/13/magnum/drivers/common/k8s_monitor.py@17710:27
flwang1based on my testing, current way just works10:28
strigaziflwang1: still here?10:52
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Add kubelet to the master nodes  https://review.openstack.org/59686014:37
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Make flannel seld-hosted  https://review.openstack.org/59715014:37
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colin-i happened to find this today and thought you folks might think it was interesting: https://cloud.google.com/gke-on-prem/16:54
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kaiokmoflawng: are you there?17:56
kaiokmoflwang *17:56
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flwang1strigazi: still around?18:02
flwang1imdigitaljim: around?18:22
flwang1i'm a little bit confused with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596647/18:22
flwang1why we didn't see it before on v1.11?18:23
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imdigitaljimyeah im here18:45
imdigitaljimsorry was in a quick meeting18:45
imdigitaljimwhat sup18:45
imdigitaljimflwang1: ^18:46
flwang1imdigitaljim: as for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596647/18:50
flwang1i saw strigazi +2ed and you +1, but i'm not sure if i fully understand the issue18:51
imdigitaljimwhy so?18:57
imdigitaljimits a removed flag and they are removing it18:57
imdigitaljimflwang1: ^19:00
flwang1imdigitaljim: why it works before for us?19:02
flwang1in the bug description, he/she said the api server can't start19:02
imdigitaljimworks for you as in the flag is used?19:02
imdigitaljimor works as in doesnt bomb out19:02
imdigitaljimi think it was introduced officially for removal on 1.11.2?19:02
flwang1as you know, we have tested v1.11 for quite a while19:02
flwang1so i don't understand why the bug description said the api server can't start19:04
flwang1imdigitaljim: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/pull/61386/files19:04
flwang1i just reviewed the k8s changes again19:05
flwang1i think the bug description is not correct19:05
flwang1using this parameter shouldn't have any impact19:05
flwang1imdigitaljim: ^19:05
imdigitaljimhttps://imgur.com/a/M7rtnkY19:06
imdigitaljimit does19:06
flwang1imdigitaljim: what's the version you're using?19:06
flwang1as you mentioned, it could be v1.11.219:07
flwang1at least in my testing with v1.11.1 it just works19:08
imdigitaljim1.11.219:08
imdigitaljimi *do* think it was part of 1.11.2 tag19:08
imdigitaljimbut not 100% positive19:09
flwang1ok, thanks19:10
flwang1i will double check19:10
flwang1generally, i'm happy to approve this19:10
flwang1thanks19:10
openstackgerritFeilong Wang proposed openstack/magnum stable/rocky: Remove deprecated `tls-ca-file` option from kube-apiserver  https://review.openstack.org/59721319:11
flwang1imdigitaljim: are you going to share the implementation of your k8s-keystone-auth?19:12
imdigitaljimabsolutely19:12
flwang1since i'm going to propose new patchset given we're getting kubelet back19:12
imdigitaljimi just needed some dependency work completed and i think you and strigazi are getting what i needed/wanted to be done19:13
flwang1imdigitaljim: ok, cool19:13
imdigitaljimill propose my cleanups (which are mostly accepted already)19:13
imdigitaljimand then push several additional things including keystone19:13
imdigitaljimi dont want to constantly rebase these changes and im more or less converging most of my work here19:14
flwang1imdigitaljim: then pls keen an eye on my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561783/19:14
imdigitaljimoh definitely19:14
imdigitaljimi might work on your patchset instead of a new one when i get to that? is that okay with you?19:15
flwang1imdigitaljim: i understand, pls rebase your patch and let's get it in asap19:15
flwang1imdigitaljim: yep, sure19:15
flwang1you can just push your patch set on19:15
imdigitaljimill be visiting strigazi next week so it might be a slow week19:15
imdigitaljimwere going to switzerland19:16
flwang1imdigitaljim: oh, visiting for what?19:16
flwang1exchange the openstack ops experience?19:16
imdigitaljimcollaboration/discussion/general convergence19:16
imdigitaljimyeah19:16
flwang1fantastic19:17
flwang1strigazi: imdigitaljim: i can't join today's meeting because it's the first visiting day for my son to primary school, i have to be there from 9-11. sorry about that19:24
imdigitaljimno worries! anything you'd like to mention/bringup?19:25
imdigitaljimflwang1: ^19:25
flwang1imdigitaljim: not much, i will review the meeting log, thanks19:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-magnumclient master: Fix crash on Service catalog empty 403 response  https://review.openstack.org/59580920:03
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Add kubelet to the master nodes  https://review.openstack.org/59686020:11
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: [k8s] Make flannel seld-hosted  https://review.openstack.org/59715020:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum master: Remove deprecated `tls-ca-file` option from kube-apiserver  https://review.openstack.org/59664720:12
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strigazi#startmeeting containers21:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 28 21:00:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'21:00
strigazi#topic Roll Call21:00
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strigazio/21:01
colin-hello21:01
tobias-urdinhello o/21:01
imdigitaljimo/21:02
strigaziThanks for joining the meeting colin- tobias-urdin imdigitaljim21:02
strigazi#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers21:02
strigazi#topic Announcements21:03
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strigaziMagnum 7.0.0 provides certified kubernetes21:03
strigazithanks to flwang that pushed the results to cncf21:04
* strigazi is fetching the path21:04
colin-awesome21:04
imdigitaljim:]21:04
cbrummCongrats all21:04
tobias-urdincool, nice work21:04
strigazi#link https://github.com/cncf/k8s-conformance/commit/263ea91efef9f1decd3c5f5437ee704f0a1af26121:04
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strigaziFYI, magnum queens was passing the conformance tests as well, we just didn't posted the results to cncf21:05
canori02o/21:05
strigaziNow it is more official21:05
strigazihi canori0221:05
imdigitaljimare these just sonobuoy runs?21:05
strigaziyes, nothing more nothing less21:06
imdigitaljimSUCCESS! -- 143 Passed | 0 Failed | 0 Pending | 853 Skipped PASS21:06
imdigitaljimi feel it a goal to improve the tests skipped21:06
imdigitaljim(if applicable)21:06
imdigitaljimit skips some tests when features arent present21:06
imdigitaljimsome it skips with alternative configurations21:07
imdigitaljimso it depends21:07
strigazilet's see if we can run more21:07
imdigitaljimanyways nice job o/\o21:08
strigazi2nd announcement: magnum 7.0.1 is released, we will to more point releases in rocky21:08
strigazi2nd announcement: magnum 7.0.1 is released, we will two more point releases in rocky21:08
strigaziOf course we can do more later if we find bugs21:09
strigazi#topic Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas21:09
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strigaziI have pushed the patch to put kubelet on the master node21:10
imdigitaljimlooks good21:10
strigaziAnd since I was trying to make it work with flannel on the master node21:10
imdigitaljimwhen flwang finishes his part ill be pushing any of my remaining changes21:10
strigaziI proposed a patch for making flannel self hosted21:10
strigazisimilar to calico21:10
imdigitaljim:)21:10
strigaziWhat is flwang's part?21:11
strigazion kubelet?21:11
imdigitaljimnot on kubelet, he was working on some remaining changes i believe21:11
strigaziok21:11
strigaziIf the flannel patch passes the conformance tests, I don't see a reason not to take, it cleans a lot of files.21:12
strigazithoughts? ^^21:13
strigazi*take it in rocky21:13
colin-i can't think of anything about flannel that would prevent it from working in that way; sounds good to me21:13
strigaziI like the fact that it doesn't mess with docker config a lot like before. let's take this discussion in the review:21:14
strigazi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597150/21:15
colin-i'll take a look there21:15
strigaziand two more items:21:15
strigaziYou can give input in flwang's patches for cluster health monitoting here:21:16
strigazi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/magnum+branch:master+topic:story/2002742-2459321:16
strigaziI posted sample output of some possible cases here:21:16
strigazi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572897/21:16
strigaziI think we can take it this week. We will just need a client patch as well.21:17
strigaziAnd last item, is regarding upgrades, I haven't pushed the UTs yet but the API will not change:21:18
strigazi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514959/21:18
strigaziNext, I think tobias-urdin wants to bring up some items21:20
tobias-urdinsure21:20
tobias-urdini've pretty much went through what i through is missing to make it easier to run magnum in production21:20
tobias-urdinmagnum-ui is missing functionality, we cannot discover COE, volume drivers, network drivers etc21:21
strigaziWe adddress this issue by using public cluster templates ^^21:21
tobias-urdintwo other things I think is, two config options, one to select allowed coe engines and allowed volume drivers21:22
tobias-urdinsame like was done for the network drivers21:22
strigaziWe have an option in magnum conf to enable only some drivers21:23
strigazifor volumes, let me check21:23
tobias-urdinhaving something like glance implements, a discovery endpoint that then magnum-ui can use to populate causing it to not be hardcoded21:24
tobias-urdini think would benefit a lot21:24
strigaziFor disabling  COE's we have http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/magnum/conf/drivers.py#n4021:26
tobias-urdinanother example would be swarm-mode completely missing in magnum-ui :)21:26
strigaziand for ops we have magnum list-drivers21:26
strigaziSo, you proposal is to discover the configuration options with an API?21:27
tobias-urdinok, how would the disabled_drivers look if specified?21:27
strigazimagnum has these drivers enabled by default: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/setup.cfg#n6021:28
tobias-urdinthanks21:28
strigaziin the magnum controller node the admin can do:21:28
strigazimagnum list-drivers21:28
strigaziand see which are enabled21:28
strigaziusing disabled_drivers the operator can opt-out from using some of them21:29
tobias-urdinthen that is exactly what i'm looking for, i then think that is something we should expose using API so that the UI can consume it21:29
strigaziwe decided not give the end users this option, one it adds complecity and second the clients don't need access to such low level info about magnum.21:30
strigaziWhat we actually tried in the past was21:31
strigazito allow operators intriduce more drivers more easily21:31
strigazibut continue to provide the users with public cluster templates21:32
strigaziwhat we could invesigate is, having magnum-ui consume some of the configuration options in the magnum.conf?21:33
imdigitaljimmagnum-ui may not always be on the same location as magnum.conf21:33
tobias-urdinyeah :(21:33
strigaziimdigitaljim: 99% is not in the same place21:33
imdigitaljimso i'd say magnum-api should still provide it and ui consume it21:33
imdigitaljimby same please i mean even same machine*21:34
strigaziI think end users should only consumes the cluster API21:34
strigaziI think end users should only consume the cluster API21:34
strigazinot the clustertemplate api21:34
imdigitaljimwe also agree with that sentiment21:35
imdigitaljimwe have modified our ui to only allow cluster creation and not template creation21:35
strigazithe massive hole we have on the cluster template API is labels21:35
imdigitaljimnot just by policy but we've simplified the ux21:35
imdigitaljimyeah labels are a feature-gate but eventually need to be turned into actual features :P21:35
strigazilabels can not be consumed by the API atm21:36
imdigitaljimi think we should convert to consuming config files21:36
imdigitaljimhave a config file map to a template21:36
tobias-urdinmy users is mostly ui based, so we'll be doing the same, which is what i'm wanting to prevent21:36
imdigitaljiminstead of openstack coe cluster template create --amillionthings21:36
tobias-urdindont want to modify downstream, instead have it supported upstream the ways operators want to use it21:36
imdigitaljimwe're looking for ways to make the new content upstreamable21:37
imdigitaljimbut still just consuming it as downstream for now21:37
strigazitobias-urdin: if you provide users with public cluster templates? Doesn't this help?21:37
tobias-urdinyes but it doesn't address all pain points that the ui currently has, you never know which coe, volume/network drivers is supported (and recommended) by the operators21:38
imdigitaljimthis is how simple our create panel is21:39
imdigitaljimhttps://imgur.com/a/Y7acH9X21:39
strigazibut these parameters are not exposed in the cluster api21:39
imdigitaljimid like to add some kind of configurable traits to simplify the user experience on the ui21:40
imdigitaljimas an option at least21:40
strigaziours look like this: https://imgur.com/a/Sqk56Zw21:41
tobias-urdini think we've come to the conclusion that we have something to look at atleast :) i'm very satisfied disabling drivers was possible, which i probably should have checked better myself21:41
strigaziuser need only to select the cluster template and the size of the cluster, flavor, num_nodes, docker-volume-size21:42
strigazis/user/users/21:42
tobias-urdinwhen we are on the magnum-ui subject, i would like to propose a change to add swarm-mode to the hardcoded COE list in magnum-ui, backport it21:42
strigazihttps://imgur.com/a/xx5DnnO21:43
tobias-urdinand request a new magnum-ui release for queens to release that change and bug fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595245/21:43
strigaziwe will do both21:43
strigazitobias-urdin: imdigitaljim what we discussed in the community before was:21:44
strigazihave cluster template or another api object that operators use for configuration parameters and to set the allowed values21:45
strigazithe end users would consume the cluster templates, fork them and edit them but being restricted by the operator21:45
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strigaziit required a lot of effort on the API and we lacked man power to do it.21:47
tobias-urdinwhich is fine and working good, i'm simply talking about the population of the fields for cluster templates21:47
strigaziSo, at least at CERN, we decided to have a set of supported Cluster Templates and tell users consume those21:47
tobias-urdinit's no big deal really, but a simple thing like the swarm-mode COE is not even present in the list there21:48
strigaziadvanced users that want more features should open tickets or experiment with the api.21:48
strigazitobias-urdin: swarm-mode should be there, we missed that.21:48
tobias-urdinwhich takes me back to :)21:49
tobias-urdin23:33 < tobias-urdin> when we are on the magnum-ui subject, i would like to propose a change to add swarm-mode to the hardcoded COE list in magnum-ui, backport it                         |21:49
tobias-urdin23:34 < tobias-urdin> and request a new magnum-ui release for queens to release that change and bug fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595245/21:49
strigaziplease cherry-pick it21:49
strigazito rocky and queens21:49
strigaziI'll approve and release21:50
strigazifor swarm-mode propose a patch and will take it, backport it and release it21:50
strigazisounds good?21:50
tobias-urdinyeah, thanks21:51
strigaziAnything else for today?21:51
tobias-urdini have one more, unless somebody else have anything21:52
strigazitobias-urdin: where are you based? Europe? Sure, go ahead21:52
tobias-urdinyes gmt+121:52
canori02Just my coreos patch for me. I  believe I have the cert issue sorted out. Just need reviews again21:52
tobias-urdini've been testing around to see what works, are there any support matrix COE vs OS version etc21:53
tobias-urdinkubernetes pretty much worked on first attempt, seems the most maintained21:53
strigaziFedora Atomic 27 works with kubernetes and swarm-mode21:53
tobias-urdindocker swarm is broken on fedora 27, etcd is not in fedora atomic but is run as container, which i saw a commit21:53
strigazios_distro=fedora-atomic coe=swarm-mode|kubernetes21:54
tobias-urdindocker swarm-mode on fedora 27 almost works, it's missing tcp port 2377 so minion node cannot join swarm cluster21:54
tobias-urdinis fedora 28 working at all?21:54
strigaziit does21:55
canori02Works with k8s for me21:55
tobias-urdinto fix swarm-mode we need to push port 2377 for security group21:55
tobias-urdinhere i think https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/swarm_fedora_atomic_v2/templates/swarmcluster.yaml#L24421:55
strigazigot it21:55
* strigazi is thinking how swarm-mode works in devstack21:56
tobias-urdinsame there, would appreciate a backport for such a fix21:56
strigazi+1\21:56
tobias-urdinwithout even googling my guess is 2377 is TLS swarm endpoint and 2375 is non-tls which perhaps, unfoutunately, the testing uses?21:57
strigazi2375 is behind tls21:57
tobias-urdini added 2377 to sec group after I saw that was executed in the magnum-swarm-manager script21:57
strigaziAFAIK 2377 is not21:57
strigazi2377 is the default port for the swarm-mode inter-node communication21:58
strigazitobias-urdin: in your cloud, magnum creates a private network per cluster?21:58
tobias-urdinunsure22:00
strigazitobias-urdin: just push a patch for the security group and we take it. Just add a story in storybaord22:00
tobias-urdinthink that example used an existing private network22:00
strigaziwe can take the discussion there22:01
tobias-urdinsure22:01
strigazianything else? it's time22:01
tobias-urdinsorry for the lengthy meeting, would like to be more involved in magnum but don't have the time currently :(22:01
tobias-urdini have nothing22:01
colin-thanks for hosting strigazi22:01
strigazicanori02: I haven't forgotten you, I'll leave comments in your coreos patch22:02
tobias-urdinyea, real thanks for clearing a lot of stuff up!22:02
strigazithanks colin-22:02
strigaziThnaks for joining colin- tobias-urdin canori02 imdigitaljim22:02
strigaziSee you22:03
strigazi#endmeeting22:03
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* strigazi -all imma away22:03
canori02strigazi: if you get a chance, could you check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579026/ again?22:03
strigazicanori02: it reaches create complete, I'll run one more test tmr22:04
strigazigot to go22:05
openstackgerritTobias Urdin proposed openstack/magnum master: Allow TCP port 2377 to swarm master node  https://review.openstack.org/59729522:07
openstackgerritTobias Urdin proposed openstack/magnum-ui master: Add swarm-mode as COE  https://review.openstack.org/59729922:19
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