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| openstackgerrit | Andrei Ozerov proposed openstack/magnum master: Provide a region to the K8S Fedora Atomic config https://review.openstack.org/578356 | 07:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Do Anh proposed openstack/magnum master: Add release notes link in README https://review.openstack.org/581242 | 07:59 |
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| sfilatov | Hi! I've enabled cert_manager_api label for my cluster and got NoneType has no attribute 'is_admin'. | 08:51 |
| sfilatov | This is where the error occurs https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L126 | 08:52 |
| sfilatov | and this code does not pass any context https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/heat/k8s_fedora_template_def.py#L120 | 08:52 |
| sfilatov | while get_cluster_ca_certificate function accepts context | 08:53 |
| sfilatov | So is it a bug or I'm not getting smth? | 08:53 |
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| flwang1 | strigazi: meeting today? | 09:07 |
| strigazi | flwang1: yes | 09:07 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: ok, cool | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: Support disabling floating IPs in swarm mode https://review.openstack.org/571200 | 09:27 |
| mvpnitesh | strigazi: What to know the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/support-multiple-flavor and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups | 09:27 |
| mvpnitesh | strigazi: Hi , what to know whether someone is working on them or when they will be implemeneted | 09:28 |
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| flwang1 | mvpnitesh: i think you can take it | 09:49 |
| flwang1 | mvpnitesh: i don't think there is anybody working on it | 09:49 |
| strigazi | I added it in agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2018-07-10_1700_UTC | 09:50 |
| strigazi | mvpnitesh: we have the meeting in a few minutes. These subjects are best to be targeted for the meeting. | 09:51 |
| mvpnitesh | strigazi: Thanks, Will attend the meeting | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/magnum master: Clear resources created by k8s before delete cluster https://review.openstack.org/497144 | 09:58 |
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| strigazi | #startmeeting containers | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 10 10:00:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is strigazi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 10:00 |
| strigazi | #topic Roll Call | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 10:00 | |
| flwang1 | o/ | 10:00 |
| strigazi | o/ | 10:00 |
| strigazi | agenda: | 10:01 |
| strigazi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2018-07-10_1700_UTC | 10:01 |
| strigazi | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints/Bugs/Ideas (Meeting topic: containers)" | 10:01 | |
| strigazi | nodegroups, diffrent flavors and AZs | 10:02 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: after you | 10:02 |
| strigazi | At the moment we only support to select flavors for the master and worker nodes | 10:03 |
| strigazi | For availability zones, we can select the AZ for all nodes. | 10:03 |
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| strigazi | There is a need to specify different AZs and flavors | 10:04 |
| strigazi | AZ for availability, flavors for special vms, for example flavors with GPUs | 10:04 |
| mvpnitesh | stragazi: If we want to multiple flavour for the clsuter creation , can we go ahead and implement this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/support-multiple-flavor | 10:04 |
| mvpnitesh | i guess the spec for this BP is not approved, can i modify the same or raise the new one ? | 10:05 |
| brtknr | o/ | 10:05 |
| strigazi | Nodegroups were proposed in the past, IMO it is an over engineered solution and we don't have the man power for it. | 10:05 |
| strigazi | mvpnitesh: we don't use blueprints any more. | 10:05 |
| mvpnitesh | strigazi: ok | 10:06 |
| strigazi | mvpnitesh: we migrated in storyboard. These BPs where moved there with the same name. | 10:06 |
| strigazi | brtknr: hi | 10:07 |
| strigazi | we can consolidate these there blueprints in one, that allows cluster with different types of nodes | 10:07 |
| brtknr | strigazi: hi, thanks for reviwing the floating ip patch, im confused about the time on the agenda... says 1700. | 10:08 |
| strigazi | each node can be different from the other is flavor and AZ | 10:08 |
| strigazi | brtknr is it? | 10:08 |
| strigazi | brtknr: we alternate and I copied the wrong line | 10:08 |
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| brtknr | ah, so 1 week at 1000, another week at 1700? i like that solution | 10:09 |
| strigazi | brtknr: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131678.html | 10:10 |
| strigazi | So, for AZs and flavors. No one is working on it. | 10:11 |
| strigazi | We need to design it and target it for S | 10:11 |
| strigazi | mvpnitesh: ^^ | 10:12 |
| mvpnitesh | strigazi: We want to have a multiple flavours for a single cluster. I'll look into the storyboard and come up with the design and i'll target that for S | 10:12 |
| strigazi | We can discuss it next week again and we can come prepared. | 10:13 |
| strigazi | brtknr: flwang1: are interested in this ^^ | 10:13 |
| strigazi | brtknr: flwang1: are you interested in this ^^ | 10:14 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: not really ;) | 10:14 |
| brtknr | brtknr: multiple flavors and multiple os too if possible | 10:14 |
| strigazi | multiple os? | 10:14 |
| strigazi | for the special images you have for gpus? | 10:15 |
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| brtknr | strigazi: yes, i looked into fedora support for gpu, looks a bit hacky | 10:15 |
| brtknr | considering nvidia do not officially support gpu | 10:15 |
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| brtknr | whereas centos is supported | 10:16 |
| brtknr | nvidia do not officially support fedora gpu drivers | 10:16 |
| strigazi | Let's see, I think we can even use centos-atomic without any changes | 10:16 |
| strigazi | Next subject, | 10:17 |
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| strigazi | I'm working on changing this method to sync the cluster status https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/magnum/drivers/heat/driver.py#L191 | 10:18 |
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| flwang1 | strigazi: what's the background? | 10:19 |
| strigazi | Istead of list that I mentioned we can do get without resolving the outpits of the stack | 10:19 |
| flwang1 | ah, i see | 10:19 |
| flwang1 | got it | 10:19 |
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| strigazi | flwang1: with big stack magnum tries to kill heat. | 10:19 |
| strigazi | flwang1: With the health check you are working on | 10:20 |
| strigazi | we can avoiding getting the worker nodes, like ever | 10:20 |
| flwang1 | i can remember the issue now | 10:20 |
| strigazi | but this is another discussion | 10:22 |
| flwang1 | ok | 10:23 |
| strigazi | This week I expect to push, this patch, cloud-provider-enabled/disable patch, k8s upgrades and the keypair patch. | 10:23 |
| brtknr | is there a story for this? | 10:23 |
| strigazi | this one https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002648 | 10:23 |
| strigazi | I saw that flwang1 and imdigitaljim had questions about rebuilding and fixing clusters | 10:24 |
| strigazi | The above change is required also for supporting users. | 10:24 |
| brtknr | Ah, I had the same issue with cluster created using just heat template definition which we are using to create clusters with complex configuration | 10:25 |
| strigazi | At the moment, when a user has a cluster with a few nodes (not one node) | 10:25 |
| strigazi | And a node is in bad shape we delete this node with heat | 10:26 |
| strigazi | Actually we tell him how to do it: | 10:26 |
| strigazi | openstack stack update <stack_id> --existing -P minions_to_remove=<comma separated list with resources ids or private ips> -P number_of_minions=<integer> | 10:27 |
| strigazi | the resource id can be found either from the name of the vms or by doing openstack stack resource list -n 2 <stack_id> | 10:28 |
| strigazi | using the resource id is more helpful since you can even delete nodes that didn't got an ip and also the command we cook for users is smaller :) | 10:29 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: btw, is Rocardo still working on auto healing? | 10:29 |
| strigazi | flwang1: he said he will | 10:29 |
| strigazi | flwang1: so auto healing will do what I described auto automatically | 10:30 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: ok, cool | 10:30 |
| strigazi | even so, the change with the keypait is useful so that admins can do this operation | 10:30 |
| strigazi | or other users on the project | 10:31 |
| strigazi | or other users in the project | 10:31 |
| strigazi | make sense? | 10:31 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: yes for me | 10:32 |
| strigazi | And for supporting users and the health status | 10:32 |
| strigazi | At the moment | 10:32 |
| strigazi | users can not retrieve certs if the cluster is in a failed state | 10:32 |
| strigazi | We must change this so that we also know what k8s or swarm think for the cluster | 10:33 |
| flwang1 | yep, we need the health status to help magnum understand the cluster status | 10:33 |
| strigazi | Instead of checking the status of the cluster magnum can change if the CA is created | 10:34 |
| strigazi | If the CA is created users should retrieve the certs | 10:34 |
| strigazi | makes sense? | 10:34 |
| flwang1 | we may need some discussion about this | 10:35 |
| strigazi | What are your doubts? | 10:35 |
| strigazi | The solution we need is | 10:35 |
| strigazi | A user created a cluster with 50 nodes | 10:36 |
| strigazi | the CA is created, the master is up and also 49 workers | 10:36 |
| strigazi | 1 vm failed, to boot to get connectivity or to report to heat. | 10:36 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: my concern is why user do have to care about a cluster failure | 10:37 |
| strigazi | cluster status goes to CREATE_FAILED | 10:37 |
| flwang1 | can't he just create a new one? | 10:37 |
| strigazi | what if it is 100 nodes? | 10:37 |
| flwang1 | no mater how many nodes, the time of creation should be 'same' | 10:38 |
| strigazi | does it sound reasonable for the rest of the openstack services to take the load again? | 10:38 |
| flwang1 | so the effort to create a new one is 'same' | 10:38 |
| strigazi | flwang1: in practice it will not be the same | 10:38 |
| flwang1 | i can see your point | 10:38 |
| flwang1 | i'm happy to have it fixed, but personally i'd like to see a 'fix' api | 10:39 |
| strigazi | i was dealing with a 500 node cluster last week and I still feel the pain | 10:39 |
| flwang1 | instead of introducing too much manual effort for user | 10:39 |
| flwang1 | we can continue it offline | 10:40 |
| strigazi | when automation fails you need to have manual access | 10:40 |
| strigazi | not if, when | 10:40 |
| strigazi | ok | 10:40 |
| strigazi | that's it from me | 10:40 |
| flwang1 | you finished? | 10:41 |
| strigazi | yes, go ahead | 10:41 |
| flwang1 | i have a long list | 10:41 |
| flwang1 | 1. i'm still working on the multi region issue | 10:41 |
| flwang1 | and the root cause is in heat | 10:42 |
| flwang1 | i have proposed several patches in heat, heat-agents and os-collect-config | 10:42 |
| strigazi | I saw only one for heat | 10:42 |
| strigazi | pointers? | 10:42 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/580470 | 10:42 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/580229 | 10:43 |
| flwang1 | these two are for heat | 10:43 |
| flwang1 | one has been merged in master | 10:43 |
| flwang1 | i'm cherrypicking to queens | 10:43 |
| flwang1 | for occ https://review.openstack.org/580554 | 10:43 |
| strigazi | these three? | 10:44 |
| flwang1 | for heat-agent https://review.openstack.org/580984 is backporting to queens | 10:44 |
| flwang1 | we don't have to care about the last one | 10:44 |
| strigazi | yeap | 10:44 |
| flwang1 | but we do need the fixes for heat and occ | 10:44 |
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| flwang1 | 2. heat-container-agent images can't build | 10:45 |
| flwang1 | failed to find the python-docker-py, not sure if there is anything i missed | 10:45 |
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| flwang1 | 3. etcd race condition issue https://review.openstack.org/579484 | 10:46 |
| strigazi | flwang1 I'll have a look in 2 | 10:46 |
| strigazi | 3 is ok now | 10:47 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: thanks | 10:47 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: yep, can you bless it #3? ;) | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum master: Pass in `region_name` to get correct heat endpoint https://review.openstack.org/579043 | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum master: Add release notes link in README https://review.openstack.org/581242 | 10:47 |
| strigazi | 3: Patch in Merge Conflict | 10:47 |
| flwang1 | ah, yep. | 10:48 |
| strigazi | flwang1: you can trim down the commit message when you rebase | 10:48 |
| flwang1 | as for the rename scripts patch has been reverted, can we get it in again? https://review.openstack.org/581099 i have fixed it | 10:48 |
| strigazi | flwang1: yes | 10:48 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: thanks | 10:48 |
| strigazi | flwang1: I was checking the cover job, not sure why sometimes fails | 10:49 |
| flwang1 | 4. Clear resources created by k8s before delete cluster https://review.openstack.org/497144 | 10:49 |
| flwang1 | the method used in this patch is not good IMHO | 10:49 |
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| flwang1 | technically, there could be many clusters in same subnet | 10:50 |
| strigazi | flwang1: what do you propose? | 10:50 |
| flwang1 | we're working on a fix in CPO to add cluster id into the LB's description | 10:50 |
| flwang1 | that's the only safe way IMHO | 10:51 |
| sfilatov | I might be missing something, but why we dont clear loadbalancers in a separate software deployment? | 10:51 |
| sfilatov | we won't need to connect to k8s api then | 10:51 |
| flwang1 | sfilatov: what do you mean? | 10:51 |
| flwang1 | the lb is created by k8s | 10:51 |
| flwang1 | we're not talking about the lb of master | 10:52 |
| sfilatov | yes | 10:52 |
| sfilatov | i'm talking about k8s too | 10:52 |
| sfilatov | we could have dont kubectl delete on all of them | 10:52 |
| sfilatov | inside a cluster | 10:52 |
| flwang1 | sfilatov: can you just propose a patch? im happy to review and testing | 10:53 |
| sfilatov | yes, I'm working on it | 10:53 |
| sfilatov | but i've kinda have a patch similar to the one proposed | 10:53 |
| strigazi | so to delete a cluster we will do a stack update first? | 10:53 |
| sfilatov | and we have a lot of issies with it | 10:53 |
| sfilatov | no | 10:54 |
| sfilatov | we can have a softwaredeployment for DELETE action | 10:54 |
| strigazi | +1 | 10:54 |
| sfilatov | we are working on this issue, I can provide a patch by the end of this or next week I guess | 10:55 |
| flwang1 | sfilatov: nice | 10:55 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: that's me | 10:55 |
| sfilatov | can you link a bug or a blueprint for this issue? | 10:55 |
| flwang1 | i'm still keen to understand the auto upgrade and auto healing status | 10:56 |
| flwang1 | sfilatov: wait a sec | 10:56 |
| strigazi | brtknr: sfilatov something to add? | 10:56 |
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| flwang1 | sfilatov: story/1712062 | 10:56 |
| sfilatov | thx | 10:57 |
| flwang1 | np | 10:57 |
| DimGR | hi | 10:57 |
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| strigazi | Anything else for the meeting? | 10:58 |
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| flwang1 | strigazi: nope, im good | 10:59 |
| strigazi | ok then, see you this Thursday or in 1 week - 1 hour | 10:59 |
| strigazi | #endmeeting | 10:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 10:59:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-07-10-10.00.html | 11:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-07-10-10.00.txt | 11:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2018/containers.2018-07-10-10.00.log.html | 11:00 |
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| brtknr | sorry had to leave halfway through the meeting | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum master: Support disabling floating IPs in swarm mode https://review.openstack.org/571200 | 13:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum master: Rename scripts https://review.openstack.org/581099 | 13:48 |
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| imdigitaljim | all: hey just wanted to check in, hadnt spoken much in last few days we had us holiday last week so slow week and I've been working on an internal CI for kubernetes components using any version rather than just whats available in the atomic-system-containers rawhide. We're set up to use the latest (1.11). I'll returning on upstream stuff soon :), still watching things though | 17:28 |
| imdigitaljim | US holiday* | 17:28 |
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| imdigitaljim | mvpnitesh: we'll be working on node pools as well soon, strigazi: updating heat template versions (up to pike) will help a lot in solving this problem without overengineering | 17:38 |
| imdigitaljim | strigazi: we'll also be trying to use centos atomic at some point too, i also believe it should be interchangable | 17:39 |
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