Tuesday, 2016-03-01

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Kennanhi yuanying00:35
Kennanyuanying_00:36
yuanying_hi Kennan00:36
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Kennancould you help review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274123/  yuanying_ ?00:38
Kennanit has addressed your comments before, I think :)00:38
yuanying_yes, ok00:39
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yuanying_Kennan: Should we introduce `region_name` to baymodel for the bay?01:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Return correct object type  https://review.openstack.org/28569101:34
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yuanying_Kennan: Heat can accept region_name for stack, so I guess magnum which is in regionOne can build `regionTwo` bay01:37
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Kennanyuanying_ why need introuce region_name to baymodel01:48
Kennanmutli-region have related services, nova and related01:49
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Kennaneach region would serve that01:49
yuanying_Kennan: sorry, I changed my opinion01:49
yuanying_Ok, I got it01:49
Kennan:)01:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Avoid compare None type using min()  https://review.openstack.org/28568901:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Use six.moves.reload_module instead of builltin reload  https://review.openstack.org/28569001:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Use specific key to sort list of dicts  https://review.openstack.org/28569401:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Encode string before hash it  https://review.openstack.org/28569701:51
yuanying_but, I think `region_name` will be used by another function not only volume_driver01:51
yuanying_so, this `region_name` is bay specific01:51
yuanying_It means we should introduce another config parameter, like bay_region_name01:52
yuanying_What do you think?01:52
Kennanyunaying_ right now I did not find string reason to introduce region_name in bay01:53
Kennanjust like nova, you boot instance not need to care about it.01:53
Kennans/string/strong01:53
yuanying_Kennan: yes, I introduce magnum_url parameter to get certificate01:54
yuanying_Kennan: But if region_name is introduced, we use it to get magnum_url in the bay01:54
Kennanyuanying_ it was same, how did you  get your magnum_url ?01:55
yuanying_Kennan: region_name and service_name is used to get magnum_url01:55
KennanThen if your functions work, how could need region_name again?01:56
Kennanhow did you get region_name?01:56
yuanying_from heat parameter01:56
Kennanyuanying_ which configuration is for that region?01:57
Kennandid you mean magnum keystone region?01:57
yuanying_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285954/1/magnum/conductor/template_definition.py01:57
Kennanyunaying_ ?01:57
Kennannot get your points01:58
yuanying_well01:58
Kennanit was used in our cinder client01:58
Kennanit was not your magnum_url in cerficcate01:58
yuanying_yes01:58
yuanying_but this region_name can be used for to get magnum_url01:59
yuanying_because bay is in this region01:59
Kennanyuanying_ I think it is different, you talked region, I think it is magnum,conf  region about keystone part01:59
Kennanand it is that case which you can get related url02:00
yuanying_magnum_url came from region_name and service_name in magnum.conf02:00
Kennanit is not means use our cinder region02:00
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Kennanyuanying_ did you look magnum.conf example ?02:01
Kennanit include all clients region_name02:01
Kennanlike glance heat nova02:01
yuanying_yes02:01
Kennaneach have region_name02:01
yuanying_yes02:01
yuanying_I mean02:02
yuanying_its not needed to give heat_region_name, cinder_region_name, magnum_region_name to bay as heat_parameter02:03
yuanying_I think, LB feature also wants region_name02:03
Kennanyuanying_ LB right now need user manual config02:04
yuanying_LB will want region_name02:04
Kennanwe just do in volume with automically02:04
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Kennanyuanying_ LB did need that, but it needs user to config02:05
Kennanit needs to login to nodes and manual config02:05
yuanying_currently yes02:05
yuanying_there is no plan to automatically setup?02:05
KennanI am not sure yuanying_ it was feature implemented before02:06
Kennanbut it is out scope of this cinder related, what you means to get region through magnum_url(if possible) would need separate patch to fix those02:07
Kennanyuanying_ does it make sense?02:07
Kennanlike nova, glance . etc02:07
yuanying_Kennan: ok, currently it makes sense to me02:08
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Kennanyuanying_ for questions you mentioned, I think you could open a issue02:08
Kennanand I like to subscribe it and discuss it02:09
Kennanyunaying_ you could input your points in that issue, and we need more talking about it in that issue02:09
yuanying_ok, and now I have two items to discuss.02:12
yuanying_I try to join next meeting..02:12
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openstackgerritKai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack/magnum: Fix the jenkins run script  https://review.openstack.org/28590702:25
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wanghuaKennan yuanying_ : can you help review my patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285988/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286004/03:15
Kennansure will check later wanghua:03:15
wanghuaKennan: Thanks03:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Add hidden attr to password in the Heat Templete  https://review.openstack.org/28596403:32
openstackgerritwangqun proposed openstack/magnum: Fix baymodel with invalid parameter can created.  https://review.openstack.org/28219903:35
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yanghyKennan, wanghua, yuanying_ : Is there a way to force gate, I have a patchset, and some of them have workflow+1 but do not start the gate, I think it is because it's a patchiest and it depends on previous non-approved patch, but one of the previous patch need modify, so it will trigger rebase, the workflow+1 will gone... Is there a way to avoid this?03:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Ignore the generated config file  https://review.openstack.org/28624803:56
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openstackgerritDimitry Ushakov proposed openstack/magnum: Remove minion dependency on master  https://review.openstack.org/27540504:19
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openstackgerritYang Hongyang proposed openstack/magnum: Correctly compare utf8 strings  https://review.openstack.org/28547804:38
openstackgerritYang Hongyang proposed openstack/magnum: handle bytes list in api middleware  https://review.openstack.org/28569304:38
openstackgerritYang Hongyang proposed openstack/magnum: Use str() to generate IOError exception message  https://review.openstack.org/28569504:38
openstackgerritYang Hongyang proposed openstack/magnum: Fix x509 cert generation python3 compability  https://review.openstack.org/28569604:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Fix api access with public acl routes  https://review.openstack.org/28392104:57
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/magnum-ui: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/28340806:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Fix the jenkins run script  https://review.openstack.org/28590706:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Convert bytes to string in get_id for python3 compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/28569806:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Do not use translate to delete chars  https://review.openstack.org/28569906:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Use exception.faultstring instead of exception.message  https://review.openstack.org/28569206:52
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openstackgerritHua Wang proposed openstack/magnum: Use trust for tls generation  https://review.openstack.org/28641406:58
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openstackgerritHua Wang proposed openstack/magnum: Use trust for tls generation  https://review.openstack.org/28641407:27
openstackgerritwangqun proposed openstack/magnum: Add external_network unit test for post baymodel  https://review.openstack.org/28641907:29
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openstackgerritwangqun proposed openstack/magnum: Add flavor_id unit test for post baymodel  https://review.openstack.org/28642207:42
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yanghyWhy rebase is keep causing patches losing Workflow+1 , it drives me mad :(08:29
yanghyI shouldn't ever upload patches in a set, better to separate them to different branch08:30
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yanghyyuanying, Kennan wanghua Sorry that I'm keeping losing your Workflow+1, would love you to take a look at the rebased patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285695/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285696/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285478/  when you're free, thanks in advance08:39
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openstackgerritwangqun proposed openstack/magnum: Add Container Volume Model into Kubernetes Heat Templates  https://review.openstack.org/28595409:51
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openstackgerritwangqun proposed openstack/magnum: Add Container Volume Model into Kubernetes Heat Templates  https://review.openstack.org/28595410:02
yamamotoany idea about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/155164810:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1551648 in Magnum "k8s podmaster doesn't work" [Undecided,New]10:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Rename get_rpc_resource to get_resource  https://review.openstack.org/28458310:33
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openstackgerritShu Muto proposed openstack/magnum-ui: Remove unnecessary import lines from scss files  https://review.openstack.org/28648310:45
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shu-mutoueveryone: Magnum-UI doesn't work with latest Horizon, because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum-ui/+bug/155028610:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550286 in Magnum UI "dynamic themes breaks compress offline" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Shu Muto (shu-mutou)10:54
shu-mutouCore reviewers, please review https://review.openstack.org/286483 ASAP10:56
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openstackgerritShu Muto proposed openstack/magnum-ui: Add Create Bay action into BayModel row-action  https://review.openstack.org/28458211:22
openstackgerritShu Muto proposed openstack/magnum-ui: Refactor actions in Bay table  https://review.openstack.org/28339611:22
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coreyobhey all I'm looking at the kubernetes templates and they don't seem to have any call to the wait condition. is that true or am i missing something?13:04
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coreyobn/m i see it13:10
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yanghyyuanying, ping...13:25
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yanghywanghua, ping...13:38
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openstackgerritYang Hongyang proposed openstack/magnum: Use obj_attr_is_set to check whether an attr is set in oslo_versionedobject  https://review.openstack.org/28665415:20
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adrian_ottoOur team meeting will begin in a few minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt at UTC 1600. See you there!15:52
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Kennanadrian_otto:17:00
Kennanping17:00
adrian_ottohi Kennan, you asked about the Mitaka release date17:00
thomasemhongbin: Why must k8s have another distro supported? What's the use-case? What're you worried about happening if we only label one as 'supported' by the Magnum team?17:01
KennanYes for Magnum adrian_otto17:01
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thomasemAdding one more distro _will_ impact development speed for both bug fixes and new features.17:01
hongbinthomasem: I worried the vendor lock-in issue17:01
thomasemAnd also narrow the qualified pool17:01
KennanI want to make sure some feature can be merged in M release in Magnum17:01
thomasemof people who can address it17:02
Kennanadrian_otto: do you have any date for Magnum now ?17:02
thomasemhongbin: Give me a real scenario... if it's kubernetes, does the underlying OS that it's running on matter _that_ much?17:02
KennanI am not sure if we have separate date or not? adrian_otto17:02
hongbinSo the arugement is how additonal distro will impact the development speed, which I am not sure17:02
thomasemThe reason for using Docker is so it can be cross platform.17:02
adrian_ottoKennan: we do still have the freedom to select another date17:03
thomasemby virtue of being a container environment.17:03
adrian_ottobut feature freeze would normally start on this coming Thursday17:03
Kennanadrian_otto: for example our storage support in still on review17:03
hongbinI am still not confortable to lock-in to a specific container environment17:04
Kennanand if not merged this Thursday17:04
thomasemI don't see what lock-in you're referring ot?17:04
Kennanis it means we can not merge it in M release adrian_otto ?17:04
coreyobhongbin development speed will clearly be impacted as it already has taken extra time to get TLS to coreos when it is already in atomic for k8s17:04
thomasemWhat nuance am I missing... what runs on kubernetes atop CoreOS should run pretty much the same atop Atomic17:04
thomasemhongbin: ^^?17:04
Kennanadrian_otto: I assume you add no-new feature add-in ?17:04
Kennanright ?17:04
adrian_ottoKennan: we have some latitude to wiggle in there, as release candidates need to be done by Mar 28.17:04
hongbinthomasem: No, I don't think so. It has a lot of issues for specific OS17:05
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thomasemDocker + Kubernetes alone is what will prevent lock-in, from what I understand here17:05
thomasemLike?17:05
thomasemCan you give an example?17:05
hongbinthomasem: Bugs in a OS17:05
adrian_ottothe reason foe feature freeze is to allow multiple projects to cross-integrate on a stable base17:05
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hongbinthomasem: how to build image in a OS17:05
Kennanadrian_otto: yes, I understood that17:06
thomasemYou build Docker images differently for CoreOS vs. Atomic?17:06
hongbinthomasem: build VM image17:06
thomasemYou're talking about vendor lock-in... that's not vendor lock-in, that's an operator concern if they want to support something outside of what Magnum supports.17:07
hongbinthomasem: Most importantly, users see a single OS as a lock-in17:07
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thomasemLet me ask another way - what type of lock-in are you worried about?17:07
hongbinthomasem: If a OS die/break17:07
hongbinthomasem: If a feature doesn't work17:07
hongbinSorry folks, I need to leave for lunch right now17:08
coreyobhongbin users aren't going to see the os of the VMs. they're using the COE17:08
hongbinWe could continue the discussion later or in the ML17:08
coreyobespecially in your case of the /containers endpoint, they definitely won't see the VM right?17:08
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Kennancoreyob: please check the review comment of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274123/ ? for region related, that's the historical issue,17:15
KennanI think that would addressed in separate issue, instead of cinder clients17:15
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Kennanthen we can go on related mesos support feature can be merged.17:16
coreyobKennan I agree it is a historical mistake, but why would we continue to make the same mistake. instead, how about using the nova region_name for cinder?17:16
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Kennancoreyob: no, region_name for nova, glance and related all have separate config17:17
Kennaneven nova have same issue, why just choose nova instead of glance /17:17
Kennanclients have separate config is same pattern17:18
coreyobchoosing glace is fine with me. my point is just that we should consolidate them instead of continuing to add more. you can start that consolidation by reusing an existing one instead17:18
coreyobor even instead of using cinder region_name, make it magnum region_name and use that instead17:18
coreyobthen we can start to change all the others to use magnum_region name17:18
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Kennancoreyob: I think not quite same issue. for your mentioned second all clients. all need concsistent change17:19
Kennannot means right now, for cinder pick magnum_region name17:20
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coreyobKennan I went ahead and put in https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1551867 and then removed my -117:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1551867 in Magnum "Magnum config should use a single region" [Undecided,New]17:25
KennanThanks coreyob That could help to have a consistent fix way17:26
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Kennancoreyob: are you still working on atomic 23 ?17:33
KennanI'd like to check that related new image if can be used or not17:34
Kennancoreyob: please send me remind when new happens. Will go to bed now :017:35
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eghobocoreyob: around?18:17
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eghobohi, just curious why Atomic?18:17
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coreyobI don't think we need to do atomic for sure. ideally it would be nice if we could use fewer base images so I just defaulted to atomic because kubernetes and swarm both already have templates for it18:19
coreyobas long as we don't have to use custom images, we can use a different os for each COE without problem18:20
coreyobif we have to keep using custom images then having 3 custom images is more painful than having 118:20
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eghoboi see, honestly I don't mind build extra image if there is packer or disk-builder script18:23
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eghobomy biggest concern is duplications in setup scripts18:24
coreyobwhen it comes to images, I don't want the magnum team to have to maintain and distribute a custom image. i think our reference image should be able to work with a public image18:24
coreyobthe problem with removing duplication in setup scripts is related to the heat template versioning problem. if we want to share a common script between two different coe drivers, the content of that script changing has to trigger an updated version number on all of the dependent scripts18:25
coreyobso we'd have to have a really good way to manage that dependency18:25
eghobosure we can go this way and run everything in containers, but in this case CoreOS is best choice18:26
coreyobat the midcycle the consensus on script sharing was that we'd duplicate for now and try to solve that after template versioning if the maintenance became an issue18:26
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coreyobif we want to delete all the atomic templates for k8s and use coreos I'm not opposed to that either18:27
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eghobopersonally I would like delete Atomic everywhere ;)18:28
coreyobhehe, if you have a swarm replacement it would be nice to k8s and swarm on the same base image18:29
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eghoboI recently move Kub from CentOS to Ubuntu and honestly it wasn't many changes (less than day of work) because most everything in containers18:31
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eghoboand maybe it's way to go, mean run everything in containers and small OS specific setup18:33
coreyobI think that would be awesome18:34
coreyobthe smaller the os setup the easier it will be to have poeple adapt to their own os distro18:34
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openstackgerritCorey O'Brien proposed openstack/magnum: Remove minion dependency on master  https://review.openstack.org/27540518:41
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elmikois this the appropriate channel for kolla questions?19:30
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eghoboelmiko: there is dedicated kola channel - #kolla19:31
eghobohttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla19:32
elmikotyvm!19:32
elmikoeghobo++19:32
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openstackgerritPaulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/magnum: Refactor Keystone client with keystoneauth  https://review.openstack.org/27422719:39
suro-patzhongbin: vilobhmm11: request to conclude https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275003/, as you get time19:41
hongbinsuro-patz: ack19:41
suro-patzcoreyob: harlowja: request to revisit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275003/, with latest update19:42
suro-patzthanks hongbin!19:42
hongbinadrian_otto: Adrian, there is an issue for the branch. See here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/refs/19:42
hongbinadrian_otto: sorry. Never mind19:43
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sdakehongbin does magnum support keystone v3 atm?22:56
hongbinsdake: internally or the CLI?22:57
sdakehongbin for kolla, we need v3 support22:57
hongbinsdake: I think it supports22:57
hongbinsdake: but the gate was in v222:58
hongbins/was/is/22:58
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hongbinWe have plan to switch to v3 in gate/devstack22:58
SamYaplesdake: ping22:58
sdakeSamYaple hongbin says v3 works but the gate code is all v222:58
sdakeso we could conceivably use v3 and be good to go22:58
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SamYapleok ill trust that assesment22:58
SamYaplewe are not setting up v3 properly just yet, i hae a WIP in the queue22:59
SamYapleso lets see what it says after that22:59
sdake[15:58:20]  <hongbin>We have plan to switch to v3 in gate/devstack22:59
sdakeSamYaple sounds good22:59
sdakethanks :)22:59
sdakeSamYaple wears superman cape ;)22:59
sdakehongbin thanks again :)23:00
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hongbinsdake: np23:01
hongbinsdake: SamYaple : For reference, you might want to monitor these bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1539765 https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/155060623:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1539765 in Magnum "Upgrade functional tests to use keystone v3" [Undecided,New]23:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550606 in Magnum "use keystone v3 in devstack" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Hua Wang (humble00)23:02
SamYapledanke hongbin23:19
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