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| ganeshna | hi, one question on Magnum | 08:31 |
| ganeshna | if I run magnum bay-create with node-count of 2, it creates 3 nova instances in total (including the master), do I need 6 GB of RAM in my virtual machine in that case ? | 08:32 |
| Kennan2 | hi ganeshna: for that nova instances, it defaults falvor is m1.small | 08:36 |
| Kennan2 | if I remember correctly | 08:36 |
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| Kennan2 | and instances memroy can overcommit | 08:37 |
| ganeshna | Kennan2: correct, I am running devstack on Ubuntu (as a VM) on my macbook which has 16 GB ram in toal | 08:37 |
| ganeshna | *total* | 08:37 |
| Kennan2 | 16GB would be OK for devstack | 08:38 |
| Kennan2 | as devstack consumes much memorty | 08:38 |
| Kennan2 | memory | 08:38 |
| ganeshna | 16 GB is total, I am allocating only 8GB for the ubuntu instance, as I need memory for macbook (for my other work) | 08:38 |
| ganeshna | so for development purposes, will it be fine if I use just 1 node (master + 1 node) ? Because with 3 nova instances (m1.small), the 3rd instance doesn't boot up | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Motohiro/Yuanying Otsuka proposed openstack/magnum: Generate certs while creating bay https://review.openstack.org/214480 | 08:40 |
| Kennan2 | hi ganeshna: 8GB maybe OK. As devstack itself sometimes consume much memory | 08:40 |
| Kennan2 | I think it depends on system configuration that devstack maybe slow if less memory | 08:41 |
| Kennan2 | ganeshna: why the 3rd instance not boot up? | 08:41 |
| Kennan2 | what erros does nova say ? | 08:42 |
| ganeshna | i checked the console logs from horizon for the fedora atomic image, | 08:42 |
| ganeshna | the kernel crashes | 08:42 |
| ganeshna | I thought it was because of low memory | 08:42 |
| Kennan2 | maybe, I think set node = 1 is ok for test | 08:43 |
| ganeshna | Kenna2: if I want to contribute to bug fixes or blueprint, will set node = 1 be fine ? | 08:43 |
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| Kennan2 | hi ganeshna: | 08:48 |
| Kennan2 | I am glad to hear you want to contribute to magnum | 08:48 |
| Kennan2 | yes, when you create bay. you could set node =1 | 08:48 |
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| Kennan2 | if you want to test other functions like update bay related | 08:49 |
| Kennan2 | node > 1 maybe required | 08:49 |
| Kennan2 | so it depends on what functions bug you are fixing | 08:49 |
| Kennan2 | I think | 08:49 |
| Kennan2 | ganeshna: did your company have VMs ? | 08:49 |
| Kennan2 | I suggest you could use that if possible. That may contain much resource | 08:50 |
| ganeshna | thanks Kennan2: I am from Cisco | 08:50 |
| ganeshna | let me check that in that case | 08:50 |
| Kennan2 | ok let me know if you have other questions | 08:51 |
| ganeshna | btw, it took around 3 days to bring the magnum up, the fedora atomic image is getting stuck at fsck in ubuntu | 08:51 |
| ganeshna | Kennan2: don't have other questions now, thank you | 08:51 |
| Kennan2 | wcl :) | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Grzegorz Grasza (xek) proposed openstack/magnum: Indirection API implementation https://review.openstack.org/184791 | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/magnum: Remove unsed file magnum/config.py https://review.openstack.org/214418 | 11:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/magnum: [WIP] Add CA controller for TLS support. https://review.openstack.org/214179 | 11:27 |
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| madhuri | apmelton: Hi you there? | 12:06 |
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| apmelton | madhuri: hey, I'm here now | 12:56 |
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| madhuri | Hi apmelton | 13:03 |
| madhuri | apmelton: how are you? | 13:04 |
| apmelton | madhuri: little groggy, still waiting for the coffee to kick in :) | 13:04 |
| apmelton | how about you? | 13:04 |
| madhuri | Yes, is it early for you? | 13:05 |
| madhuri | I just went for coffee | 13:05 |
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| apmelton | it's around 9, I"m just not a morning person | 13:06 |
| madhuri | So when do you go office? | 13:06 |
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| madhuri | I wake up at 6:30 everyday and then run for office | 13:06 |
| madhuri | :( | 13:07 |
| apmelton | I ususally sit down around 9:45 or 10 | 13:07 |
| madhuri | Ok. Sorry for disturbing you | 13:07 |
| madhuri | So can we start the discussion? | 13:07 |
| apmelton | madhuri: no worries! | 13:08 |
| apmelton | sure | 13:08 |
| madhuri | Let me check for yuanying yuanying-alt if he is here | 13:08 |
| madhuri | He also wanted to join | 13:08 |
| yuanying-alt | yes, I'm here | 13:08 |
| madhuri | Hi | 13:08 |
| yuanying-alt | If I have a question, I'll interupt you | 13:09 |
| madhuri | Ok so let's start our discussion | 13:09 |
| yuanying-alt | Hi, madhuri, apmelton | 13:09 |
| madhuri | sure | 13:09 |
| apmelton | hey yuanying-alt | 13:09 |
| madhuri | apmelton: I would like to know whether the TLS implementation for docker will differ from Kubernetes or not? | 13:10 |
| apmelton | madhuri: I think it will differ slightly, in that there may be two different keys/certs on each node | 13:11 |
| apmelton | the docker daemon has one with serverAuth, and the swarm manager (the public api of sorts) has one with clientAuth and serverAuth | 13:11 |
| madhuri | Yes it is so with Kubernetes | 13:11 |
| madhuri | One i.e server key will be with kube-apiserver | 13:12 |
| madhuri | And the other i.e. the client key will be used my m-conductor | 13:12 |
| madhuri | Am I right yuanying-alt ? | 13:12 |
| apmelton | docker-swarm will also need the client key for the m-conductor | 13:12 |
| yuanying-alt | And also, minion daemon will use clientAuth key | 13:13 |
| apmelton | all in all, there's probably 4 keys, 1) swarm manager, 2) docker daemon, 3) m conductor, 4) end user | 13:13 |
| madhuri | The key 2, 3 and 4 can be same | 13:14 |
| apmelton | technically, 1, 3, and 4 could be the same | 13:14 |
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| apmelton | generally 1) will have subject alt name details of the server | 13:15 |
| apmelton | so it shouldn't be used by 3 and 4 | 13:15 |
| apmelton | since 3 and 4 will be pure clientAuth, they won't have any subject alt name details | 13:15 |
| apmelton | and could be the same | 13:15 |
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| madhuri__ | apmelton: yuanying-alt Sorry I got disconnected | 13:16 |
| apmelton | <apmelton> generally 1) will have subject alt name details of the server | 13:16 |
| apmelton | <apmelton> so it shouldn't be used by 3 and 4 | 13:16 |
| apmelton | <apmelton> since 3 and 4 will be pure clientAuth, they won't have any subject alt name details | 13:16 |
| apmelton | <apmelton> and could be the same | 13:16 |
| madhuri__ | Did I miss something? | 13:16 |
| apmelton | also for 1), in an HA config where the swarm manager is running on more than one node, each node will need a different cert | 13:17 |
| madhuri__ | Agree | 13:17 |
| madhuri__ | yuanying-alt has submitted patch alt name support I guess | 13:17 |
| madhuri__ | Sorry subject alt name support I mean | 13:18 |
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| apmelton | yea, I think his x509 tool should be able to support the differences | 13:18 |
| madhuri__ | Yes | 13:18 |
| yuanying-alt | I guess subject alt name should be validated? | 13:19 |
| apmelton | tcammann: might have an opinion on this actually | 13:19 |
| apmelton | I believe he was saying we should do come validatity checking on where each request is coming from | 13:19 |
| yuanying-alt | yes | 13:20 |
| yuanying-alt | Anchor implementation check it | 13:20 |
| apmelton | what kind of details does it check? | 13:20 |
| yuanying-alt | but it was come from static config file | 13:20 |
| yuanying-alt | check request contect and network address | 13:21 |
| apmelton | so, what happens if our certificate has not only the public address, but also the private address? | 13:21 |
| yuanying-alt | I think we can't check private address now | 13:22 |
| apmelton | hmmmm | 13:22 |
| yuanying-alt | ah, now I don't understand, what happend | 13:22 |
| yuanying-alt | because these are only used for kubernetes and swarm in tenant | 13:23 |
| madhuri__ | I aslo have the same opinion | 13:23 |
| apmelton | so, the reason we need the private address on the certificate is because the swarm-manager to docker daemon traffic happens over the private net | 13:23 |
| madhuri__ | But guess tcammann can better answer it | 13:23 |
| apmelton | so when the docker daemon tries to validate the cert of the swarm manager, it's going to try to validate it with the private address | 13:24 |
| yuanying-alt | yes | 13:24 |
| apmelton | what we could potentally do is take the ip address of the request coming in, then find the nova instance associated with that | 13:25 |
| apmelton | and from that we would have both the valid public and private address | 13:25 |
| apmelton | that seems really heavy handed though | 13:26 |
| madhuri__ | That is a solutin but not sure how much efficient | 13:26 |
| apmelton | yea | 13:26 |
| apmelton | I'm not really sure what this validation really buys us | 13:27 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: we need to discuss about it with team also. | 13:27 |
| apmelton | the request is going to be authenticated with a trust token | 13:27 |
| yuanying-alt | yes | 13:28 |
| madhuri__ | Can we mark action item for this? | 13:28 |
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| madhuri__ | #action: Discuss about certificate validation and private key to be by docker daemon for swarm | 13:29 |
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| madhuri__ | apmelton: Would you like to take this up? | 13:29 |
| apmelton | sure, hopefully I can catch tcammann and get his insight on this | 13:30 |
| madhuri__ | Thanks | 13:30 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: Do you have more to discuss about secure docker TLS support? | 13:31 |
| apmelton | not about the docker piece specifically | 13:31 |
| apmelton | just wondering if there's any thing I can be doing to help with the core feature | 13:31 |
| madhuri__ | Ok sure | 13:32 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: yuanying-alt https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-tls-support | 13:32 |
| madhuri__ | Please have a look at the Final Action Item section | 13:32 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: We are sorry. The document might be jumbled. It was just for internal use :) | 13:33 |
| apmelton | no worries, I think I follow | 13:33 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: We are left with the Keystone trust token work | 13:34 |
| apmelton | someone on my team was actually planning to work on the keystone trust token | 13:34 |
| madhuri__ | It would be great | 13:34 |
| apmelton | he's implemented it for solum, so it should be pretty quick for him | 13:34 |
| madhuri__ | That would be a great help | 13:35 |
| madhuri__ | Could you please introduce us to him? | 13:36 |
| apmelton | madhuri__: I don't see him around yet | 13:36 |
| madhuri__ | Moreover first him please? | 13:36 |
| apmelton | madhuri__: not sure I understand that second question | 13:37 |
| madhuri__ | I mean do we know him/her? | 13:37 |
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| madhuri__ | Can you please introduce him? :) | 13:38 |
| apmelton | I don't think he's been introduced yet | 13:38 |
| apmelton | his name is murali | 13:38 |
| madhuri__ | Oh I have heard his name :) | 13:38 |
| madhuri__ | Ok so could you talk to him about it? | 13:39 |
| apmelton | madhuri__: sure | 13:39 |
| madhuri__ | Thanks :) | 13:40 |
| apmelton | so madhuri__, looking at this list of work items, y'all pretty much have the core feature covered | 13:41 |
| madhuri__ | So as status of TLS work for kubernetes, we are left with few more supporting patches, existing patches maintainence and the Keystone trust work | 13:41 |
| madhuri__ | Yes hopefully apmelton | 13:41 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: Please let us know if we can help with docker stuff | 13:42 |
| madhuri__ | #action: apmelton to follow up Keystone trust support with murali | 13:42 |
| madhuri__ | apmelton: yuanying-alt Do we anything left to discuss? | 13:43 |
| apmelton | yup | 13:43 |
| yuanying-alt | especially none | 13:43 |
| apmelton | so at the mid-cycle the barbican team asked if we could send someone to their weekly meeting | 13:44 |
| yuanying-alt | hopefully, someone review these ;) | 13:44 |
| apmelton | I volunteered since it was at a pretty bad time for y'all | 13:44 |
| madhuri__ | What was that for? | 13:44 |
| madhuri__ | Thanks for it apmelton | 13:44 |
| apmelton | please let me know if there's anything you'd like me to bring up in that meeting | 13:45 |
| yuanying-alt | ok thanks | 13:45 |
| madhuri__ | When is the meetup? | 13:45 |
| apmelton | it's 4pm EST | 13:46 |
| apmelton | on mondays | 13:46 |
| madhuri__ | One point might be the CA support | 13:46 |
| madhuri__ | It is not much adaptable with Dogtag | 13:46 |
| apmelton | they mentioned at the mid-cycle that support for individual CAs is coming | 13:47 |
| madhuri__ | I am sure of an alternative but yes it is less adaptable | 13:47 |
| apmelton | I'll ask for an update on that feature at the next meeting | 13:47 |
| madhuri__ | Cool. So might be in future we will be using Barbican for CA also :) | 13:48 |
| madhuri__ | Thanks apmelton | 13:48 |
| apmelton | definitely, thanks for syncing up with me on all this! | 13:48 |
| madhuri__ | Great help for us too :) | 13:49 |
| madhuri__ | Ok I will send a mail to you with the action item listed | 13:49 |
| apmelton | sounds good | 13:49 |
| madhuri__ | Could you please share your id? | 13:49 |
| apmelton | andrew.melton@rackspace.com | 13:50 |
| madhuri__ | Thanks :) | 13:50 |
| madhuri__ | Are we all done so that I wrap up? | 13:50 |
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| apmelton | yes, I think we're done | 13:51 |
| madhuri__ | Ok thanks apmelton yuanying-alt for your valuable time :) | 13:51 |
| madhuri__ | Have a good day apmelton :) | 13:52 |
| yuanying-alt | thanks apmelton, madhuri__ | 13:52 |
| madhuri__ | Have a good night yuanying-alt ;) | 13:52 |
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| apmelton | thanks! have a good evening madhuri__ yuanying-alt | 13:52 |
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