Thursday, 2015-07-30

madhurisuro-patz, Have a look at https://review.openstack.org/20725700:02
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suro-patzmadhuri: sure, will take a look at00:20
madhuriThanks suro-patz00:20
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suro-patzKennan: yt?00:23
Kennansuro-patz: yes00:24
KennanI noticed what you did has some difference with dev-quick guide. I tried you steps first to make sure if it is OK00:24
suro-patzhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/406321/, you noticed the 'nova list' right00:24
suro-patzwhat difference?00:25
KennanDev-quick guide has configure that script local.sh and then run stack.sh00:25
Kennanyou add iptables after stack.sh run00:25
suro-patzThat's what I had understood from your explanation from the review comments00:26
KennanI followed dev-quick guide in magnum00:26
KennanAnyway, I would try two cases today00:27
Kennanfirst one, is your step00:27
Kennansecond one, still the dev-qucik guide00:27
suro-patzsure, that would be great00:27
Kennan(although I tried second several times and I belive it always failed00:27
Kennanso if your frist one case can ok, I think it is a bug should not add in local.sh00:28
suro-patzKennan, I think we should unblock this review of hongbin, and then fill details in the bug with your findings, if there is an issue00:28
suro-patzI can address/triage, as I get exact steps for the bug from you00:28
KennanI would have comments today. I did not mean to block hongbin steps, (as that steps make VM all pass, only for ironic. nobody tried ironic with magnum now)00:29
Kennanso hongbin steps for ironic check is ok for me (from my test)00:30
suro-patzActually I am blocking the review, as I did not want to get some code merged without us understanding the root cause of the problem, if it exists00:30
Kennanyes, that's why I not agree to not check ironic, (if noboday tried that before and think that would work) I would try both cases today00:31
Kennanand if first case is OK, it is another bug,00:31
Kennanif first case not work, I think still need check ironic00:32
suro-patzsounds very logical! I think, we are in agreement00:32
suro-patzI will wait for your response00:32
Kennansure, I am following the first case as your steps ( not add in local.sh first)00:33
suro-patzif the problem happens please add as much details as possible to reproduce the issue00:33
Kennanand I wuold paste details in paste openstack for reference00:33
suro-patzcool! Thanks a lot Kennan!00:33
Kennanwcl suro-patz:00:33
madhurisuro-patz, ping00:40
suro-patzmadhuri: plz shoot00:41
madhurisuro-patz, Do you have magnum env?00:41
suro-patzI do00:41
madhuriCan you test this patch ?00:41
suro-patzI can try out my tomorrow, would that work for you?00:42
madhuriTest passed but I see the node_count still None00:42
madhuriOk I will ask someone else00:43
madhuriThanks suro-patz00:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Remove redundant argument in container_create api  https://review.openstack.org/20697001:12
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openstackgerritvincent proposed openstack/magnum: update comments in k8s template  https://review.openstack.org/20680001:41
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed openstack/magnum: Migrate to Kubernetes 1.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/20729905:24
openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed openstack/magnum: Migrate to Kubernetes 1.0.0 (docs)  https://review.openstack.org/20730005:24
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed openstack/magnum: Instruction for building Fedora Atomic image  https://review.openstack.org/19614505:41
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/magnum: Make Kubernetes API call secure.  https://review.openstack.org/20732407:33
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ashishjainHello08:00
ashishjainNeed some advice.08:00
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ashishjainI have been working on using docker containers on openstack. I have used nova-docker driver & heat plugin for docker. But what I have understood is these two are not so good when compared to murano & magnum08:00
ashishjainCan someone please advice on whether to use murano or magnum. I see both use kubernetes.08:00
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ashishjainSome references on magnum will be really helful.08:06
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Kennan2ashishjain: I would suggest you try magnum and compare with murano if you like. magnum focuse on container management and deploy08:42
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ashishjainKennan2: Thanks for your reply. Can you kindly provide some reference(other than the openstack docs). I also saw one video from otto which he has given in vancouver, but that does not provide any insight on magnum.08:47
Kennan2I am not sure what reference do you want ? as openstack projects have details descriptions for what it focus and can do08:48
Kennan2each openstack projects have details for what they do08:49
ashishjainKennan2: For example a blog written by someone  or a step-by-step reference to use magnum. The openstack docs are mostly developer focussed.08:52
Kennan2https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/doc/source/dev/dev-quickstart.rst08:52
Kennan2check this for dev start guide08:52
Kennan2it also include how to use magnum08:53
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ashishjainKennan2: Thanks for your help and guidance. I will try this out & get back for any questions.08:54
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openstackgerritHua Wang proposed openstack/magnum: Typo fix  https://review.openstack.org/20736309:32
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linevanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/147958017:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479580 in Magnum "when create container fails. That container still has entry in magnum database " [Undecided,New]17:46
linevancontainer name should not be added to database if create fails or time out17:47
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adrian_ottonetwork subteam meeting is scheduled to begin now in #openstack-meeting18:00
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sdaketango pingola18:08
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Tango|2Hi Steve18:09
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openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/magnum: Add a new field 'master_count' to bay in API  https://review.openstack.org/20724621:52
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openstackgerritDaneyon Hansen proposed openstack/magnum: WIP: Magnum Container Networking Spec  https://review.openstack.org/20468622:38
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daneyon_adrian_otto pls see the latest feedback on the net spec. mestery and i had an irc discussion last week and he gave me a +1 if we remove the network_backend abstraction layer and supported a pluggable net model through libnetwork. That is no longer the case. It appears unless we only use Kuryr for container networking, he will -123:03
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adrian_ottodaneyon_: Then we need to have a deeper discussion about community consensus with him23:04
daneyon_Even if Kuryr was a mature libnetwork remote driver, I wouldn't see us supporting any other container networking implementations.23:04
adrian_ottous == who?23:05
daneyon_oops23:05
daneyon_I mean I would see us supporting other container networking implementations.23:05
daneyon_even if kuryr was mature23:05
daneyon_It's like neutron/kuryr is trying to cut out all the existing container networking tech23:06
daneyon_this will not work with me23:06
adrian_ottook, I understand the concern. Let me see if he can join us next week to work through this.23:07
daneyon_container networking tech has already been established. i'm all for supporting a neutron libnetwork remote driver (i.e. kuryr), but we need to support other network drivers too.23:07
daneyon_ok23:07
daneyon_thx23:08
adrian_ottoMagnum is about offering cloud operators and cloud users choice, and to make containers work well with openstack23:08
daneyon_and feel free to chime in on the review comments23:08
adrian_ottoit's expressly *NOT* about re-engineering network technology to suit OpenStack23:08
daneyon_right on23:08
daneyon_right on again23:08
adrian_ottook, I'm going to extend Kyle the courtesy of having a conversation about this before taking it to the ML23:09
adrian_ottoMagnum's contributors have a widely shared vision of what we are doing, and if it's not compatible with Neutron's views then we need to find a way to end that friction23:10
daneyon_adrian_otto If kuryr is done right, it will be the preferred magnum container networking backend. It should rise to the top on its own merit, not by shutting out other container net tech just because it's the openstack iaas network provider.23:10
adrian_ottowe have a cart before the horse23:11
daneyon_right23:11
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adrian_ottook, thanks for flagging this. I'll be sure that we stay true to our community values here, and get adequate transparency while we solve this23:12
adrian_ottoalso, let's not be tempted to knee jerk about this either23:13
adrian_ottolike you said, if kuryr matures into something compelling, of course we would have no objection to using it23:13
adrian_ottobut we do need to be honest and sensible about what our expectations are prior to stating an intent to use23:14
adrian_ottoso while I'm going my work, daneyon_ you might put some thought into the criteria we would use to judge what networking options to surface within Magnum23:15
adrian_ottothat will get us ready for the next step once we clear this hurdle23:15
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daneyon_adrian_otto good point about stating our intentions. IMO, it would be nice to see the kuryr team working with us to address magnum use cases.23:16
adrian_ottoyes, that should be part of their spec writing process23:16
daneyon_adrian_otto I will put some thought into the criteria.23:17
adrian_ottothanks23:17
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madhuriadrian_otto, Hi23:41
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Kennansuro-patz: did you check my findsing as comment>23:50
Kennan?23:50
suro-patzHi Kennan,23:51
suro-patzThanks for the detailed finding23:51
suro-patzI went through it23:51
KennanOK. Let me know your results when available23:51
suro-patzI understand the issue happens for VM with two NICs - right?23:52
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Kennanyes suro-patz:23:53
Kennanespically related with PUBIC_INTERFACE setting23:53
KennanPUBLIC23:54
suro-patzI am going to put that note in the document23:54
suro-patzI had encountered the same, where the Vm looses connectivity23:54
suro-patzdevstack VM23:54
Kennanyes. I think related with add eth0 in br-ex  (for one NIC cases)23:55
Kennanbut I don't know why it works for two NICs(although I set PUBLI_INTERFACE with ssh public ip )23:55
Kennanit should lost network connectivey23:55
Kennanbut seems devstack has magic wasy to make it not lost for two NICs case23:56
suro-patzso to drill this issue in hand further, we can do the following -23:57
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suro-patz1. for case 3, i.e. two NIC, you can give more details of the networking on the devstack host - A. ovs-vsctl show, B. ip netns C. iptables -L POSTROUTING -t nat —line-number23:59

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