Tuesday, 2015-05-26

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sdake_kennan did your update.py change any versions?00:06
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sdake_just went through rabbit hunt on global requirements looks like we should be enabled00:06
openstackgerritSteven Dake proposed openstack/magnum: Reorder requirements into ascii-betical order.  https://review.openstack.org/18546700:14
Kennansdake_ not found any new updates about version00:30
sdake_ya i ran the script00:30
sdake_it made a minor update (added a header)00:30
Kennanyes00:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Backport "kubenode -> kubeminion"  https://review.openstack.org/18515600:44
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openstackgerritKai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack/magnum: Rename bay_k8s_heat to more general name  https://review.openstack.org/18294600:54
sdake_this will be painful: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay01:05
sdake_yay pain :)01:05
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sdake_tcammann around?01:07
sdake_hey adrian_otto01:07
adrian_ottohi sdake_01:09
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sdake_say adrian first order of business with native clients i s https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay01:09
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tobeI have no idea why it said "must be read from the ReST bay endpoint"01:12
sdake_right now its read from the database (the pod/rc/service info)01:12
sdake_it must be read directly from the k8s endpoint in the bay01:13
sdake_then native cleint/magnum client - source doesn't matter01:13
adrian_ottoagreed.01:14
sdake_atm we have two databases01:14
sdake_we need only one01:14
sdake_not sure how we will sort out migrations or if they can be sorted out at all01:15
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adrian_ottowe would just need to drop the local copy of redundant records.01:15
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sdake_perhaps migration is a mapping of the internal object id to the external one01:15
sdake_ya, that hsould be super easy!01:15
* sdake_ dons sarcasm hat :)01:16
tobeYou're great :-)01:17
tobeHi @adrian_otto I have watched your presentation on OpenStack Summit01:18
tobeI know about why docker exec only supports copying files from container into local server but not inverse01:19
tobeBecause it's not implemented yet and it will be released in next version, maybe docker 1.7. Refer to docker#5846 :-)01:20
adrian_ottotobe: I think you mean "docker cp"01:20
adrian_ottothat allows you to copy files out. You can copy files in by using a bind mount, and copying the file from that after a docker exec of a shell inside the container.01:21
tobeOpoos, sorry, you're right01:21
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adrian_ottobut that's usually a bad idea01:21
sdake_ya and that second model is terrible ;)01:21
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adrian_ottoit's a better idea to use a Dockerfile to generate your image.01:21
adrian_ottoso that it can be easily reproduced based on a different base OS version01:22
tobeYou're right. But sometimes we use docker for development and copying file into container is convience01:22
adrian_ottothat will come in handy next time your OS has a new release01:22
sdake_until you forget what file you copied where ;-)01:22
adrian_otto1.7 will not be a long wait01:22
sdake_then repeatability goes out the window01:22
sdake_july for 1.701:22
tobe@adrian_otto @sdake_ All of you are right and that's why we love to use docker :-)01:23
tobeAnd looking forward to magnum as well01:23
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sdake_tobe or not tobe may I point you at http://sdake.io/2015/04/13/preserving-contaner-properties-via-volume-mounts/01:24
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tobeThanks @sdake_ I know about docker volume and we have to admit its limitation01:26
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tobeThe volume should be set when we run the container01:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Correct the wrong parameter pass  https://review.openstack.org/18531901:26
sdake_which limitation01:26
tobeIf we want to copy file into the running containers, we should use `docker exec` to workaround01:27
sdake_i would highly recommend from copying files into containers01:27
sdake_unless you do so via a docker run operation (encode file in the environment)01:27
sdake_did you read my blog post about the 3 properties your giving up ? :)01:28
tobeYes, it's not a good idea to copy files into containers after docker run01:28
tobeJust for development01:28
sdake_docker build to add new files imo - that way you know where they came from and where they are going ;)01:29
sdake_just dont push the container - it should be as fast as any copy operation you can setup01:30
sdake_docker cdn needs more minerals for push01:30
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madhurisdake_, hi01:38
sdake_hey madhuri01:38
madhuriAbout https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay01:38
sdake_yar01:38
madhuriI also have registered a similar blueprint01:39
madhuriWhere the state of the k8s resources are synced to magnum db01:39
sdake_that would mean polling?01:39
madhurihttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/k8s-resource-status01:39
sdake_have a link hadny?01:39
madhuriThis time no polling01:40
madhuriBut just to sync everytime when the HEAD is called01:40
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sdake_which head01:40
jay-lau-513e01:40
madhuriThere are not much detail on the bp01:40
madhuriBut I thought of syncing the state whenever any read is called01:41
sdake_i thought you were working on secure-kube?01:41
madhuriHEAD like readPod, readService etc01:41
madhuriYes I am working on it01:41
madhuriBut I just submitted the bp as I found it missing01:41
sdake_got it01:41
madhuriBut it's ok if you're working01:41
sdake_i'm going to actively work on it01:42
madhuriI just wanted to tell you about it01:42
sdake_thanks01:42
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madhuriOk go ahead01:42
sdake_interesting model01:42
madhuriI had created a patch for it before vancover summit01:42
sdake_did it work?01:42
sdake_I really would rather remove the database entries for pods/rc/services01:43
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madhuriNo, there are some issues with the python-ksclient code01:44
madhuriSome error01:44
madhuriI figured out the issue01:44
sdake_but master is using that code01:44
madhuriYes that is fine01:44
madhuriBut the readPod API is not used01:44
sdake_oh and its busted?01:44
madhuriAnd it has error01:45
madhuriYes01:45
sdake_can you get a review up for that? :)01:45
madhuriSure01:45
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madhuriFor all the read APIs01:45
sdake_bug in k8s?01:45
madhuriNo but swagger-codegen I gues01:46
sdake_fantastic!01:46
madhuriI have to create a new stackforge project also to maintain it01:47
madhuriAnd that will be too difficult for me01:47
sdake_did we decide to do that?01:47
madhuriProbably I will do it after TLS work01:47
madhuriYes we had discuss it in containers meeting01:47
madhuriCumbersome01:48
sdake_i'd say wait until google gets done with their first 6 versions of their version v1 api ;)01:48
sdake_e.g. wait for their codebase to stablize01:48
madhuriYes I also think so01:48
madhuriBut I must say this code is threat for us01:49
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madhuriWhen will they get a stable release?01:49
sdake_adrian_otto any idea?01:49
sdake_I think when their velocity slows down and maturity increases01:49
sdake_when that will be - not clear01:49
sdake_the core team will help maintain the client01:50
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sdake_but it would be nice if we didn't have to redo it every 1 mo on a minor api bump01:50
sdake_stackforge for that seems reasonable when v1 is released01:51
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sdake_creating the project is mechanical01:52
sdake_takes about 2 hours max01:52
sdake_i think when v1 is cut, we just roll our own tls enabled client in python01:52
sdake_without the swagger codegen nonsense01:52
sdake_or start from that and turn it into something a human would write01:53
sdake_in a perfect world the v1 api would be published in the next 3 mo01:56
sdake_which gives us 3 months of bake time on the client01:56
madhuriDo you mean we will write a new client?01:57
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sdake_i mean we will take whatever swagger codegen generates with v1 api, plus the tls work, and use that as a starting point01:59
sdake_and then ignore swagger for v101:59
sdake_and refactor the client not to be written by a machine02:00
sdake_does swagger codegen impose any license?02:02
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sdake_looks like answer is asl2.002:11
sdake_so we ar egood there02:11
sdake_we can make whatever change we like02:11
madhuriYes that sounds better02:13
sdake_dont sweat the stackforge project02:13
sdake_when time is right we will pull that off as a team02:13
madhuriSure. Thanks.02:16
madhuriThat was a pain for me02:16
sdake_which was pain02:16
madhuriBut anyhow I have to make read APIs work02:16
madhuriCreating a new stackforge project now02:16
madhuriwith TLS work02:16
sdake_oh you mean worry02:16
madhuriYes02:16
madhuri:D02:17
sdake_there worry no more ;)02:17
madhuri:)02:18
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sdake_tcammann awake02:25
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/magnum: Improving Unit Test coverage and using these tests to provide a documented example to demonstrate writing unit tests for new contributors for increasing project code coverage.  https://review.openstack.org/18545403:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Reorder requirements into ascii-betical order.  https://review.openstack.org/18546703:14
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fangfenghuamagnum can create a k803:42
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fangfenghuaK8s cluster at gce or aws?03:43
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: introduce policy for magnum  https://review.openstack.org/18443306:02
openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: first policy check for bay  https://review.openstack.org/18550106:02
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openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: remove allow_logical_names check  https://review.openstack.org/18497406:10
openstackgerrityuntongjin proposed openstack/magnum: Add support for API microversions  https://review.openstack.org/18497506:10
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "minor updates to README"  https://review.openstack.org/18527510:25
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "added some output descriptions"  https://review.openstack.org/18527410:25
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Semi-Backport "successfully add new minions via stack-update"  https://review.openstack.org/18527810:25
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "fixup! added script for dynamically registering a minion"  https://review.openstack.org/18527710:25
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "added script for dynamically registering a minion"  https://review.openstack.org/18527610:25
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "Replace CFN resources with heat native"  https://review.openstack.org/18555810:52
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "added required id: top-level key"  https://review.openstack.org/18555910:52
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "Added basic autoscaling support with OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup"  https://review.openstack.org/18556010:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/magnum: Setup for translation  https://review.openstack.org/18283513:09
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "Added basic autoscaling support with OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup"  https://review.openstack.org/18556013:15
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "Added basic autoscaling support with OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup"  https://review.openstack.org/18556013:18
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "added required id: top-level key"  https://review.openstack.org/18555913:18
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Backport "Replace CFN resources with heat native"  https://review.openstack.org/18555813:18
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/magnum: Semi-Backport "successfully add new minions via stack-update"  https://review.openstack.org/18527813:18
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/magnum: Improving Unit Test coverage of k8s_manifest  https://review.openstack.org/18545413:53
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sdakemorning14:11
tcammannhello!14:14
tcammannYou were looking for me yesterday, sdake?14:14
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sdaketrying to figure out devstack14:14
sdakeI think I got it sorted out - i'll ping if I run into qs14:15
sdake(your plugin)14:15
sdakegetting my dev env setup after the chaos that was summit ;-)14:15
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tcammannhah :) Well I'm still on the wrong timezone so I will definitely so I might be asleep soon :/14:16
rbradfortcammann, sdake Having just added magnum to devstack I have a question regarding the neutron configuration, specifically I am unable to reconnect when restarting my VM.  Is this something you may be able to assist with?14:17
sdakebradfor I am having similar troubles getting my networking working with master branch of devstack14:18
tcammannsdake: I'm so tired I don't type in real sentences either14:18
sdakeso I'm the wrong guy to ask ;)14:18
tcammannrbradfor: Haven't run into that issue before I'm afraid14:18
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rbradfortcammann, When creating a virtualbox vm, I am creating two networks. I initially ssh to eth1, but if you restart the VM, while it appears the controller and routing is ok, all connectivity (ssh, horizon, identity) is lost.14:20
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/magnum: Improving Unit Test coverage of k8s_manifest  https://review.openstack.org/18545414:39
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sdakefirst off, run on bare metal ;-)14:45
sdaketcammann oslo.versionedobjects needs to be in global requirements14:46
sdakehave you seen a stack problem with this issue?14:46
rbradforsdake: all my spare bare metal is in my own physical cloud at present :)14:50
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tcammannsdake: meeting now?16:01
sdakeyes16:01
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apuimedoso, as I was saying, adding as many devices to the VM as containers are needed would lead to too many open files on the host and other issues17:01
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hongbineghobo: you mentioned that you may have time to work on registry BP?17:01
tcammannI'm off. +2 my templates patches while I'm alseep :)17:01
jugglergotta catch an appt here...take care everyone17:02
eghobohongbin: yes. but somebody need to guide me, becase I don't know code base at all (planning pickup in two weeks)17:02
brendenblancoapuimedo I think it will have to be some other subinterface mechanism17:02
apuimedobrendenblanco: in the guest?17:03
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hongbineghobo: Sure. I believe the entire team will help you. Just come to here whenever you are blocked17:03
eghoboany good pointers to setup dev environment? should I worry about specific devstack versions, etc?17:03
brendenblancoapuimedo: as in only really a vlan/ipvlan/etc implementation will scale17:04
hongbineghobo: try this one https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/doc/source/dev/dev-quickstart.rst#exercising-the-services-using-devstack17:04
apuimedobrendenblanco: what would you think about having each node (VM or otherwise) have a container were a device that is connected to the compute host uplink is created17:04
brendenblancoapuimedo: so that would require some instrumentation of the libnetwork/etc. driver, which I'm too fresh to understand yet17:04
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apuimedoand then in that container an *agent* runs17:04
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eghobohongbin: thx17:04
apuimedobrendenblanco: well, my idea for libnetwork is to have a remote driver that asks ports to neutron17:05
brendenblancoapuimedo: I think an agent of some sort will have to be the way17:05
apuimedoand then it is pluggable17:05
apuimedofor performing the binding17:05
apuimedoand my crazy idea of the day is to have the binding happen in a container17:05
apuimedoone veth in the target container, one veth in the *networking* container17:06
apuimedoand in the networking container the binding happens17:06
apuimedo(note that the networking container will probably be a requirement of the libnetwork remote driver itself, so I don't think it will mean extra overhead)17:07
apuimedobrendenblanco: ^^17:07
brendenblancoapuimedo: I think the idea makes sense, but can be done with/without a networking container17:08
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apuimedobrendenblanco: well, as I put above, IIRC the docker people told me that the remote driver should be a container with which libnetwork talks via some RPC17:08
apuimedoI'll talk to them this week17:08
apuimedobrendenblanco: what's your timezone?17:09
brendenblancoapuimedo: Pacific17:09
apuimedoEurope/CEST here17:09
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brendenblancoapumedo: If as you say the container requirement is libnetwork's, then thats fine17:09
apuimedoI'll keep you all posted about that part of the equation17:09
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apuimedoand I'd probably look into starting the docker libnetwork neutron driver development next week17:10
brendenblancoapuimedo: sounds good17:10
apuimedohopefully we can use it to prototype the next magnum networking ;-)17:10
apuimedobrendenblanco: have you looked at kubernetes networking?17:11
apuimedoI haven't had the time to see how much they override17:11
apuimedobut it is something we should check17:11
apuimedoI've gotta run now17:11
apuimedomy kid is waiting for me17:11
brendenblancoapuimedo: yes, though other people on our team have tried it in practice, not me personally17:11
apuimedobrendenblanco: good17:11
apuimedotalk to you tomorrow ;-)17:12
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eghoboif you are in bay area there is meetup about kub and networking this week17:12
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apuimedo|awayeghobo: I won't be there till dockercon17:16
eghobo apuimedo|away: see you their ;)17:19
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pavel_Hello17:49
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pavel_I am trying to play with magnum by using it with devstack, I have issues with the network configuration, can anyone send me what is the configuration that he or she is using?17:50
pavel_I am talking about local.conf17:50
dimspavel_: these are the settings used in our devstack CI job - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/devstack/settings17:52
dimsplease see README.rst in the same directory as well17:52
rbradforpavel_: I was able to follow these instructions and successfully install devstack in a VM with magnum — http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum/tree/doc/source/dev/dev-quickstart.rst  I have some improvements to the docs also.17:54
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pavel_rbradfor: were you using fedora or ubuntu? I am using fedora2117:58
rbradforpavel_: This is an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS VM17:59
pavel_can you explain what should I put in:18:00
pavel_# FLOATING_RANGE=192.168.1.224/27 # PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY=192.168.1.225  # FIXED_RANGE=10.0.0.0/2418:00
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pavel_my network at the office is 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.252.018:02
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apuimedo|awayeghobo: looking forward to that18:06
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pavel_can you explain what should I write in: FLOATING_RANGE, PUBLIC_NETWORK_GATEWAY, FIXED_RANGE18:11
rbradforpavel_: for devstack, I used the quickstart instructions which are much simplier then the tree/devstack/settings.  I have not yet finished testing my own VM, but it’s operational and I can for example create a baymodel and bay.18:13
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pavel_rbradfor: after running the ./stack.sh I loose connectivity from the machine outside18:15
rbradforpavel_: did you restart the VM, or just after stack.sh finishes?18:16
pavel_I am running it on a physical machine and didn't restart18:17
rbradforI had a similar problem using VMs yesterday, when restarting, while the interface and route seemed correct, I could not connect to public interface.  It happened 3 times. Today, I am able to connect to the VM, shut it down, and restart and connect and start stack.sh with no problems.18:19
rbradforI was unable to determine the cause of the problem.18:19
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adrian_ottosdake, I am ready to tag 2015.1.1 today.19:56
adrian_ottobased on stable/kilo19:56
adrian_ottothere is also an automatic tarrball of master that gets released each day, if something more recent is desired.19:57
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dimsadrian_otto: +120:29
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sdakeadrian_otto wfm22:22
sdakehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-t69ZTWsAMbind.jpg:large22:23
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Kennansdake apmelton there?23:21
sdakesound me23:21
Kennanhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/configurable-coe-api-port23:21
sdakewound23:22
KennanI just want to assigned it to me23:22
Kennannot sure how to do that23:22
sdakewhat is your gerrit id23:22
Kennangerrit review id ?23:22
Kennanor launchpad id ?23:23
sdakethey should be the same ;-)23:23
Kennanwkqwu23:23
sdakeand you can commit to june 25th deadine?23:24
KennanI think so23:24
sdakethe port is specified in the cnofig files23:25
sdakeit is a configurable option there23:25
sdakethe template will have to be modified to take it as a parameter and cofigure it in the fragments23:25
Kennanyes, seems we have apiserver_port, when created baymodel23:25
Kennanwe can pass to heatb finally23:25
Kennanand for apiserver_port it should not bind to k8s, it also applied for swarm master  I think23:29
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Kennanit should be swarm manager port23:30
Kennanit then can be picked by heat template23:30
Kennanand do heat soft config23:30
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Kennansdake BTW I also checked some bp code merged, but not set bp approve or something, seems we missed :)23:35
sdakelink23:35
Kennanhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-i18n-support23:35
KennanI drafted that before23:36
Kennanadrian_otto forget to check it23:36
sdakethe core team ideally would deal with launchpad rather then 1 person :)23:37
sdakeadrian_otto around?23:38
Kennannot find him23:39
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openstackgerritKai Qiang Wu(Kennan) proposed openstack/magnum: Rename bay_k8s_heat to more general name  https://review.openstack.org/18294623:54
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