Thursday, 2014-06-05

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adrian_ottoharlowja: sorry I missed you r remarks before. We have not yet planned a meetup, but that might be a smart thing to do. Any suggestions on time/location? Might Y! want to host it?16:54
harlowjaadrian_otto i can talk to folks who know folks :-P16:55
harlowjamarcoemorais ^ what do u think16:55
marcoemoraisharlowja: adrian_otto sounds like a great idea, we would be enthusiastic abt hosting it16:56
adrian_ottooh, sweet16:56
adrian_ottook, what do you suggest as potential date ranges?16:56
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: we have plenty of meeting rooms, prolly dont want it to conflict with the other mid-cycle meetups16:57
adrian_ottoso maybe something earlier rather than later16:58
adrian_ottoso any consensus(es) reached can be carried to the other mid-cycles?16:58
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adrian_ottoI will add this as a discussion point for our next meeting17:01
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: no, more that we have ppl here who would prolly attend the meetup if not for committments to other projects17:01
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: revisit at the next tue irc meeting?17:02
adrian_ottomarcoemorais: understood17:02
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adrian_ottoif we can secure a tentative date, and ask for input on that when we meet on Tue, that would be good.17:02
adrian_ottoso that those in the bay area can reserve the time on their calendars, and those (like me) who will travel in can start to make arrangements for budget approval, etc.17:03
adrian_ottohttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup17:05
adrian_ottoit might be nice to coordinate with that in some way?17:05
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: yes: prolly ironic and nova have the most overlap yes; yahoo can provide meeting rooms, wifi, coffee and lunch, I just have to book the rooms when we have dates17:06
adrian_ottook, that's perfect17:07
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adrian_ottowhat do you all think about how many days is sufficient. Should 1 be enough, or maybe meeting for longer?17:07
harlowjahmmmm17:10
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: prolly longer if you have ppl fly here17:10
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: iirc ironic meetup was 1 week17:10
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: but I think that got old by day 4 or 517:10
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: maybe 3 days is a sweet spot17:10
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: would be nice to define some goals too17:11
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: or split teams into parallel tracks17:11
harlowjamarcoemorais is there that many people to do that? :-P17:12
adrian_ottoGood idea17:12
adrian_ottosetting goals17:13
adrian_ottowe will probably have a small group to start with17:13
adrian_ottothe biggest mid-cycle I have hosted was about 30 people plus remotes17:13
adrian_ottoand even running that group in one room seemed better than splitting17:13
harlowjaya, the tripleo/ironic one here was like ~40 and we split across 2 rooms (one for each project)17:13
marcoemoraisharlowja: well the idea of having groups that work on mods in nova and another group working on a new api expressly for containers17:14
adrian_ottoour IRC meetings usually have <=25 so the meetup is likely to be smaller17:14
harlowjamarcoemorais that assumes the above is agreed upon ;)17:14
adrian_ottoyes :-)17:14
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adrian_ottoso even if we only get to that point, I will have considered this team a success17:15
marcoemoraisharlowja: yes I am not saying that is a direction, but I am saying that the problem is big and divide-and-conquer is one way to solve such things17:15
adrian_ottook, that makes sense17:15
adrian_ottoso maybe first day of together, splitting out on a day or two after that to focus17:15
harlowjasure17:15
adrian_ottoand possibly make some hackathon type POC outputs that demonstrate what's possible17:16
harlowjafirst day for consensus agreement stuff17:16
harlowjaya, that'd be cool17:16
adrian_ottoso maybe a nova extension, and an agent, and maybe a standalone api that drives the OS level agents (or whatever we finally settle on as the direction)17:16
adrian_ottosomething quick and dirty that we can iterate from17:17
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: you know sometimes that hackathon stuff isn't the most important if you can push the paper napkins around with enough detail that ppl can go back and do the real work confident that they are spending time well17:17
adrian_ottoagreed17:17
harlowjasoooo lets make it happen :-P17:19
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: harlowja: if we could make as much progress as ironic made post-meetup that would be amazing17:22
marcoemoraistho I have no idea what base they were starting from17:22
harlowjamore of a base i think17:23
harlowja:)17:23
harlowjabut thats the fun of it all :-P17:23
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adrian_ottook, good. I'm glad we had this chat!17:42
marcoemoraisadrian_otto: me too17:43
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zul3 days would be good...4 is a bit much for a meetup20:32
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harlowjazul agreed, 2 seems a little short, 3 seems about right20:41
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ewindisch4 might be longer than Nova’s meetup ;-)21:53
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