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| openstackgerrit | Dhinesh Balasubramaniam proposed openstack/cinder master: Hedvig Cinder driver implementation https://review.openstack.org/433341 | 00:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shunei Shiono proposed openstack/cinder master: NEC driver: Add parameter to change interval of checking clone status. https://review.openstack.org/566775 | 02:44 |
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| pooja_jadhav | jungleboyj, smcginnis, tommylikehu: Kindly help me to merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566530/ | 03:03 |
| tommylikehu | pooja_jadhav: will check it soon:) | 03:07 |
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| pooja_jadhav | tommylikehu: Thanks :) | 03:08 |
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| jungleboyj | pooja_jadhav: Will try to take a look tomorrow. | 03:51 |
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| pooja_jadhav | jungleboyj: Ohk | 04:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | liuyamin proposed openstack/cinder stable/queens: Update auth_url value in install docs https://review.openstack.org/566790 | 06:22 |
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| pooja_jadhav | tommylikehu: Thanks for review :) | 06:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder master: WIP. Create backups via scheduler https://review.openstack.org/519355 | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yu Zhang proposed openstack/cinder master: IBM XIV: Report backend state in service list https://review.openstack.org/566826 | 09:12 |
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| nwonknu | anyone here using the standalone "block-box" setup for cinder that's in the contrib folder of the git repo? | 10:09 |
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| nwonknu | "make base" keeps failing for me on a pip package called "enum-compat" | 10:10 |
| nwonknu | https://pastebin.com/cvyfkcPW is the full output | 10:10 |
| nwonknu | i'm fairly certain i don't even need this package, but it's a pain to figure out where this requirement for this package comes from (from what I've gathered, it's a "wheels" image being built linked to this image https://hub.docker.com/r/loci/requirements/tags/) | 10:12 |
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| swamireddy | hi | 10:30 |
| swamireddy | quick Q: Is cinder support 2 block storages based on Ceph? for ex: block storage-1 with ceph cluster one and block storage-2 with other ceph cluster? | 10:31 |
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| e0ne | swamireddy: hi. yes. you can configure it as multi-backend | 10:36 |
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| swamireddy | e0ne: thanks...is it possible to copy data from one backend volumes to other backend volumes from cinder? | 11:32 |
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| e0ne | swamireddy: sure. you can use cinder retype feature for it | 12:06 |
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| swamireddy | e0ne: ok...if cinder do retype, then the data of vol1 on storage-1 will more to vol2 on storage-2? (retype vol1 to vol2) | 12:16 |
| e0ne | yes | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pooja Jadhav proposed openstack/cinder master: V3 json schema validation: generic volume groups https://review.openstack.org/566876 | 12:49 |
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| andreykurilin | Cinder team, please review quit simple patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562567/ . It is a blocker to remove an old zuul jobs. | 12:54 |
| andreykurilin | e0ne: ^ | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ciara Stacke proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Add VMAX specific metadata to volume https://review.openstack.org/557448 | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ciara Stacke proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver and docs - change san_rest_port to san_api_port https://review.openstack.org/560928 | 13:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Ciara Stacke proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Incorrect service level reporting https://review.openstack.org/565179 | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ciara Stacke proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Deleting snapshot that is source of multiple volumes fails https://review.openstack.org/565241 | 13:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ciara Stacke proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - remove deprecated XML option https://review.openstack.org/565518 | 13:27 |
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| jgriffith | nwonknu: still around? | 13:32 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: why do we keep release notes from prior releases in master? | 13:43 |
| smcginnis | Hmm. History? | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | eharney: That's a good question. | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | eharney: I suppose we wouldn't need to. | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | eharney: That might be one way to address that issue. | 13:44 |
| eharney | yeah, i can't think of why they're useful after the cycle has ended and they've been published with the stable branch | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | eharney: I see dhellmann is in here. Maybe we can ask him if he's aware of a reason. Or need. | 13:44 |
| smcginnis | eharney: In the meantime, I updated https://review.openstack.org/560612 | 13:45 |
| smcginnis | eharney: See if that addresses your concern. I would like to get those moving. | 13:45 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Oh, but I see I didn't update VERSION. I can do that now. | 13:46 |
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| nwonknu | jgriffith: yup | 14:03 |
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| nwonknu | i actually managed to work around it by modifying the docker-compose file to use the loci/cinder:master-debian image, rather than one I build myself | 14:03 |
| nwonknu | i think there is some issue with the loci build of cinder/requirements | 14:04 |
| nwonknu | because i did the steps from the dockerfile manually, and ended up with the same results | 14:05 |
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| jgriffith | nwonknu: Not sure I follow | 14:07 |
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| jgriffith | nwonknu: I guess the bottom line is "is it workign for you now"? | 14:07 |
| nwonknu | sorry i'll take a few steps back :) | 14:08 |
| jgriffith | :) | 14:08 |
| nwonknu | my goal is to get cinder running standalone | 14:08 |
| nwonknu | i've been looking at blockbox mostly | 14:08 |
| nwonknu | which i believe is your work | 14:08 |
| jgriffith | myself and others | 14:08 |
| nwonknu | and so i am unable to build the cinder base image using the instructions here: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/tree/master/contrib/block-box | 14:09 |
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| jgriffith | OH.. hmmm | 14:09 |
| nwonknu | but it doesn't seem to be related to blockbox, rather to LOCI | 14:09 |
| nwonknu | since the instructions here: https://github.com/openstack/loci end up with the same results | 14:09 |
| jgriffith | what version of Docker do you have? | 14:10 |
| nwonknu | and so my "solution" right now is not to use the self-built "debian-cinder" image referred to here https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/contrib/block-box/docker-compose.yml, but rather use a reference to loci/cinder:master-debian which is an image hosted on the dockerhub registry | 14:10 |
| nwonknu | Docker version 18.03.0-ce, build 0520e24302 | 14:10 |
| nwonknu | i don't think its a docker issue though, did you see the pastebin i sent earlier? | 14:11 |
| jgriffith | I'm running make now with the defaults, see what happens | 14:11 |
| nwonknu | it's a problem with a pip install of one of the requirements | 14:11 |
| jgriffith | nwonknu: nah, I couldn't find the scrollback; sorry | 14:11 |
| nwonknu | np | 14:11 |
| nwonknu | https://pastebin.com/cvyfkcPW | 14:11 |
| nwonknu | No matching distribution found for enum-compat (from eventlet===0.20.0->-c /tmp/wheels/upper-constraints.txt (line 135)) | 14:12 |
| nwonknu | and trying to edit these requirements files manually is not exactly an option as they are generated on-the-fly from what i've seen | 14:12 |
| jgriffith | Oh... | 14:12 |
| jgriffith | and there I hit it | 14:12 |
| jgriffith | Ok | 14:13 |
| nwonknu | k, good i'm not doing anything stupid then ;) | 14:13 |
| jgriffith | Nah | 14:13 |
| jgriffith | never, when it comes to anything that I have worked on you're most likely never doing anything stupid :) | 14:13 |
| nwonknu | hehe | 14:14 |
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| jungleboyj | He he he. | 14:16 |
| nwonknu | i'm happy this thing exists at all, or it would be a lot more work for me to get cinder up and running standalone, so i'm grateful for the work you did =) | 14:17 |
| jgriffith | nwonknu: I'm glad to hear it's useful for some | 14:18 |
| jgriffith | I was testing it pretty regularly and it was solid so I got complacent I guess :) | 14:18 |
| nwonknu | the opensds guys are using it too, in case you didn't know | 14:18 |
| jgriffith | Oh yeah! | 14:18 |
| jgriffith | I mean "Yay!" | 14:18 |
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| nwonknu | https://github.com/opensds/opensds/wiki/Local-Cluster-Installation-with-Cinder-Standalone | 14:19 |
| nwonknu | :) | 14:19 |
| jgriffith | Oh Excellent! | 14:19 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Yeah, I have been working with OpenSDS and they are all about the standalone support. | 14:19 |
| jgriffith | I need to check in with portdirect one of these days and see where we're at with helm charts | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | nwonknu: so it looks like our req file might be jacked (as you already discovered) on the loci side | 14:20 |
| jgriffith | I'll poke around and see what I can find there | 14:21 |
| jgriffith | I know wheels are better to use, but they're a PITA sometimes | 14:22 |
| nwonknu | cool | 14:22 |
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| nwonknu | no hurry for me atm, as i'm fine with using the prebuilt image | 14:22 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: You around? | 14:49 |
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| mordred | clarkb, _alastor_ the real problem is that volume_api_version is the wrong variable name ... it should be block_storage_api_version .. however, we need to support volume_ for backwards compat ... I will wokr on a patch to add alias support to config variables | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | jungleboyj: yes | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Hey, need some guidance debugging some weird Qemu locking issue when trying to attach an RBD volume. | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Have any experience there? | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: [ci][rally] make the job inherit the right parent https://review.openstack.org/562567 | 15:03 |
| mriedem | jungleboyj: i know lyarwood does, but he doesn't appear to be around | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: :-( | 15:05 |
| mriedem | is it an encrypted volume? | 15:06 |
| mriedem | oh nvm lee is in -nova | 15:06 |
| mriedem | ping him there | 15:06 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: Not encrypted. | 15:06 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Ok. Just had one other idea I am going to try here and will ping Lee if I don't have any luck. | 15:07 |
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| _alastor_ | jungleboyj: Even openstackclient has no v3 operations | 15:30 |
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| _alastor_ | jungleboyj: Does everyone just use cindeclient directly? | 15:31 |
| _alastor_ | *cinderclient | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luiz Benedito Aidar Gavioli proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix hostname validation regex. https://review.openstack.org/566925 | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix google backup driver https://review.openstack.org/566574 | 15:34 |
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| smcginnis | _alastor_: I think that is the case with v3-only deployments. | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | But I think there are a lot (most?) that still have v2 enabled since we didn't default it to disabled until I think Queens. | 15:36 |
| _alastor_ | smcginnis: I'd definitely like to help rectify this. I'm a heavy user of openstackclient and the SDK and I'd like to have access to the full API with both | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 15:37 |
| _alastor_ | smcginnis: I've just never actually looked closely at the code until now | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | _alastor_: Yeah, we have needed a consumer to push getting this fixed. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | There was a push to get v2 done, but then I think most of the folks working on that moved on. | 15:38 |
| Swanson | There any combo MultiOpt/ListOpt opts? | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | It would be great if someone could spend some time on v3. | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | The base v3 should be super simple. | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: What do you mean? | 15:39 |
| Swanson | Do comma separated and multiple entries? Same opt? | 15:39 |
| Swanson | I thought that was multiOpt. | 15:39 |
| _alastor_ | smcginnis: I was hoping to have the SDK stuff done by the summit, but it looks like I'll be shelling out to cinderclient in demos for most of it again | 15:39 |
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| smcginnis | _alastor_: You've got two weeks yet. ;) | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:41 |
| _alastor_ | smcginnis: at the rate stuff gets pushed through gerrit, that will be enough for half an endpoint :P | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | It's kind of funny how many Summit presentations have driven getting feature work or bug fixes done. | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick stable/queens: Fix FC: Only scan connected HBAs https://review.openstack.org/564724 | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | We follow PDD - presentation driven development | 15:42 |
| _alastor_ | smcginnis: HA. No kidding. It's pretty much the only time I can allocate resources to upstream | 15:42 |
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| jungleboyj | More summits! | 15:44 |
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| _alastor_ | jungleboyj: for folks who aren't familiar: https://service-types.openstack.org/ . A historical mapping of current services to their old identifiers | 15:54 |
| _alastor_ | although I suppose it's mostly useful for clients/sdks rather than end-users | 15:55 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis , eharney : I don't know off the top of my head what might break if we start deleting lots of release notes. It may be fine. What is the motivation for removing them? | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: eharney was the one I mentioned trying to enforce yamllint. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: So we have a bunch of files with issues. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: And easiest would probably be to just get rid of the old ones. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Less files in the directory too. | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | the only thing I could think it would break is the ability to present a full history of the master branch | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | or any later branches, actually | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | although that's not likely a huge concern, given the way we publish them | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Do we do that anywhere? My understanding was the current release note output all gets pulled out of git history. | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | it does, but if the files are deleted in the branch then they're skipped | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | so if you delete the history now, the stable/rocky branch won't have it | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | But if we delete say a Queens release note, then that's fine? | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | which is fine if you only want stable/rocky to be able to report about notes added in that branch, which is basically what we do | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | *in that series | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | so I think it's probably fine, but it isn't designed to work that way so I'm not sure | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Not sure if I really following what you said there about stable/rocky. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: That's only if we delete rocky release notes before creating the stable/rocky branch? | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | if you delete a file that exists in the history of stable/queens from master then reno will see that delete event and skip the file when producing the history of stable/rocky | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: So theoretically, if we do the first thing after RC cut to delete old release notes, we would be fine with how we publish things? | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Oh, OK. Then that's an issue I think. | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | so if you ever wanted to get all of the notes in the history of stable/rocky all the way back to the beginning of time, you wouldn't be able to do that | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: OK, thanks. Sounds like we probably shouldn't go that route then. | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | the file *would* still show up in the history of stable/queens so you would get the note there | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Each time I think I understand I realize I don't. :) | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: So if we deleted a note from queens from master right now, would our published release notes still show that in the queens notes? | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | you're thinking of versions as points in time, but they're smears across the timeline | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | yes | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | OK, then it does behave the way we would want it to. | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | when reno looks at the history of queens, it starts at the end of that branch and works backwards, so it would not see something that happened in master after the branch was created | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | And it would reduce the risk that someone would update a note in master to fix an old note issue. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: OK, that's what I thought. | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | so as long as it's ok for branches starting with stable/rocky to not have that full history, then you're probably safe | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | and the way we publish our release notes, it is probably OK | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | OK, great. Thanks dhellmann | 16:15 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: so i did find a reason that this matters, actually | 16:18 |
| eharney | smcginnis: look at the first line under "Bug fixes" here: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/cinder/queens.html | 16:18 |
| eharney | and compare to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566675/1/releasenotes/notes/bug-1560867-support-nova-specific-image-7yt6fd1173c4e3wd.yaml | 16:18 |
| eharney | in yaml, "#" means comment... so improperly formatted entries get truncated | 16:19 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: Can we add a hacking check that no release notes can start with "Fix the bug that Cinder"? :D | 16:23 |
| eharney | smcginnis: lol, not a bad idea | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder master: Rajini: This. https://review.openstack.org/566943 | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | hah | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | :? | 16:48 |
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| throwsb1 | jungleboyj: hey, wonder if you have a few minutes to maybe shed some light on what looks to be storage timeouts. | 17:53 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | nwonknu: Sam helped with figuring out what's up with the blockbox builds | 17:53 |
| jgriffith | there's a dep on enum-compat that needs to be built and hasn't made it through the process yet | 17:54 |
| jgriffith | and we use no-build in the requirements install | 17:54 |
| throwsb1 | On a fresh deploy with OSA, I was not able to provision storage. Was getting timeout errors in UI. On recommendation, I added the following to nova compute block_device_allocate_retries = 300 block_device_allocate_retries_interval = 120 | 17:54 |
| throwsb1 | I was good on provisioning a total of 6 vm | 17:55 |
| jgriffith | So you can work around this by building a base container `--build-arg PIP_PACKAGES="enum-compat"` and then modifying the build process in the Makefile to build from that base image | 17:55 |
| jgriffith | Or... just keep using the published image for now and wait a bit for the changes to propogate | 17:55 |
| throwsb1 | 6 vms, 3 per storage node. then I would just get the same time out message after that. The storage is LVM with SAN, multipath on the backend. No hardware issues and right now there is no load. I am just bringing it up and validating the environment. | 17:56 |
| jgriffith | throwsb1: so you were trying to do boot-from-volume in Horizon there? | 17:56 |
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| throwsb1 | correct, going through ui to create a new vm instance. | 17:57 |
| jgriffith | That's always been pretty sketchy as far as timing because the image download/conversion/copy process takes way too long | 17:57 |
| jgriffith | The only real options that work reliably: | 17:57 |
| jgriffith | 1. Turn on image caching and pre-populate some images (assuming your backend supports it) | 17:58 |
| jgriffith | 2. Bump the timeout in Nova (like you did) | 17:58 |
| jgriffith | 3. Don't do it that way, instead create a bootable volume in Cinder outside of Nova then use it | 17:58 |
| jgriffith | option `3` works the best, but nobody likes doing the extra step :( | 17:59 |
| throwsb1 | when you say pre-populate, I am assuming I did that by loading os image, e.g. ubuntu than deploy from there. | 17:59 |
| throwsb1 | do you have a good recommendation for storage to use with openstack? I am new and coming from vnmare with SAN, I thought that would be a good fit. | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | throwsb1: So by prepulate I mean creating a cache entry; like `cinder create --image <image-id> xxxx` | 18:02 |
| throwsb1 | ok | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | If you have caching configured and it's supported by your backend that should create a cache copy for future use | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | throwsb1: what backend BTW? | 18:02 |
| throwsb1 | it is old HP SAN 8GB 2path fibre | 18:03 |
| jgriffith | throwsb1: ok, I can't help you there with if it works there or not | 18:03 |
| throwsb1 | this is a prod like POC that will lead into full rollout | 18:03 |
| throwsb1 | jgriffith: I was more or less asking is there a preferred storage option that works well. SAN, NFS, ceph, ... | 18:04 |
| Swanson | Re-stacking after a month is the most fun ever. | 18:05 |
| jgriffith | throwsb1: well... personally I try NOT to make endorsements in here | 18:05 |
| jgriffith | We all have our biases, given most of us work on one or more of the backends supported in Cinder | 18:05 |
| Swanson | Buy dell emc for everything. | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | Any iSCSI is usually a good start IMO, and of course Ceph is an extremely popular choice | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | They ALL have their strengths/weaknesses IMO | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | just depends on what you value | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | and don't EVERY listen to Swanson | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | Unless it's to make sure you do the opposite of what he says :) | 18:07 |
| Swanson | oy! | 18:08 |
| throwsb1 | ok, so it sounds like there really is no biases. Since I am new to OS and this is a new rollout using Pike then Queens, I have always had issues with storage. Given with Pike it was just local storage. | 18:08 |
| throwsb1 | hahaha :) | 18:08 |
| throwsb1 | Swanson: I come from an emc background and it is nice if you can afford it. :( | 18:09 |
| Swanson | Spurge! Treat yourself! | 18:09 |
| Swanson | Splurge. | 18:09 |
| Swanson | I don't know what "spurge" is and,frankly, I don't want to know. | 18:10 |
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| throwsb1 | jgriffith: thanks for the help. With out looking I am guessing the caching is in the cinder.conf? | 18:14 |
| smcginnis | throwsb1: I think this should have all the details you need: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/admin/blockstorage-image-volume-cache.html | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | throwsb1: And in case it's useful, here is a listing of all the currently supported backend drivers: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/drivers.html | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder stable/ocata: 3PAR: Update CHAP on host record when volume is migrated to new compute host https://review.openstack.org/560612 | 18:16 |
| throwsb1 | jgriffith: ok. just trying to get things working. | 18:17 |
| throwsb1 | smcginnis: Thanks! | 18:18 |
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