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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: api-ref cleanup: remove quotas user related calls https://review.openstack.org/406001 | 00:07 |
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| stakeda | hi, we need another +2 on this small patch. NEC Cinder CI successfully rechecked. thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449869/ | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Support get volume metadata summary https://review.openstack.org/466691 | 01:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | qtlu proposed openstack/cinder master: Check the volume metadata value is a string or not https://review.openstack.org/465829 | 01:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder master: Explicit user messages https://review.openstack.org/448384 | 01:50 |
| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Support get volume metadata summary https://review.openstack.org/466691 | 01:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/cinder master: api-ref: add list manageable resource API https://review.openstack.org/465874 | 01:54 |
| tommylikehu | hey hemna , could you take a look at this patch when you free? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448384, thanks in advance | 01:54 |
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| tommylikehu | ping winston-d , winston-d_ | 01:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/cinder master: Ceph: Fix delete backup with non-existent pool https://review.openstack.org/461082 | 01:59 |
| tommylikehu | winston-d: could you take a look at this patch again, when you free. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445440/ thanks in advance :) | 02:00 |
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| winston-d_ | @tommylikehu looking | 02:29 |
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| anticw | i have a situation where i'm trying to attach a ceph backed volume using cinder and nova-compute is invoking iscsi initiator logic | 02:58 |
| anticw | https://pastebin.com/5Uvjk7hR | 02:58 |
| anticw | does anyone know off-hand why this would happen? i'm guessing something about the response from cinder makes nova think it's an iscsi target (vs ceph) | 02:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/python-cinderclient master: Support list_volume for group show https://review.openstack.org/432179 | 03:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/cinder master: api-ref cleanup: required flag for tenants https://review.openstack.org/406056 | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/cinder master: Create volume from VHD format image always failed https://review.openstack.org/467039 | 07:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/cinder master: Create volume from VHD format image always failed https://review.openstack.org/467039 | 07:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuyafei proposed openstack/cinder master: Remove "readonly=True" when creating volume from image cache https://review.openstack.org/466563 | 07:41 |
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| kaisers | FYI: You're CIs DevStack is building no longer because 'babel' is missing? See bugticket https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.i18n/+bug/1692773 | 08:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692773 in oslo.i18n "Removal of Babel in 3.15.2 requirements.txt breaks package" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | yuyafei proposed openstack/cinder master: Remove "readonly=True" when creating volume from image cache https://review.openstack.org/466563 | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Generic backup implementation https://review.openstack.org/379778 | 10:30 |
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| dims | tommylikehu : around? | 10:46 |
| dims | tommylikehu : can you please peek at this cinder failure - http://logs.openstack.org/41/466941/1/check/gate-cross-cinder-python27-ubuntu-xenial/86a663b/testr_results.html.gz | 10:46 |
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| tommylikehu | hey dims , looking | 10:58 |
| dims | tommylikehu : not urgent though :) | 10:58 |
| dims | just weird... since i am updating tooz version number there and that does not seem to be in this code path | 10:59 |
| tommylikehu | dims: this testcase will fail randomly? | 10:59 |
| gerhardqux | arnewiebalck__: see my comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1685818 | 11:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1685818 in Cinder "Parallel deletion triggers DB deadlocks " [Medium,Triaged] | 11:00 |
| gerhardqux | smcginnis: ^ | 11:00 |
| dims | tommylikehu : will recheck again, seems random yes | 11:01 |
| dims | tommylikehu : see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466941/ - 2 failures 2 success, the current run in zuul view is the one i gave you the logs for | 11:03 |
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| tommylikehu | dims: Thanks I will look into it after our internal conference. We had this every Tuesday evening :) | 11:07 |
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| dims | tommylikehu : no rush at all, i know it's very late for you | 11:11 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | gerhardqux: thx! I’ll give that a try and let you know! | 11:15 |
| arnewiebalck__ | gerhardqux: is that documentted somewhere? | 11:16 |
| gerhardqux | arnewiebalck__: it's tucked away at https://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/threading.html#mysql-access-and-eventlet | 11:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gyorgy Szombathelyi proposed openstack/cinder master: Use the deprecated os_privileged_xxx settings https://review.openstack.org/467132 | 11:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | jiamin proposed openstack/cinder master: DS8K: support clone volume asynchroniously https://review.openstack.org/467136 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467141 | 11:48 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | gerhardqux: it works! | 11:52 |
| arnewiebalck__ | gerhardqux: with the change you suggested, I cannot reproduce the problem any longer | 11:53 |
| gerhardqux | arnewiebalck__: nice! | 11:53 |
| arnewiebalck__ | gerhardqux: would you mind explaining this, I’m not sure I understand … | 11:54 |
| gerhardqux | I don't understand the locking fully, but the case is this. | 11:54 |
| gerhardqux | cinder runs in one thread | 11:54 |
| gerhardqux | eventlet mimicks threads by overriding I/O calls | 11:55 |
| gerhardqux | when such a green thread waits for I/O, the overridden call gives CPU time to another green thread | 11:55 |
| gerhardqux | the mysql:// libc implementation prevents overriding these calls | 11:56 |
| gerhardqux | thus the process (the one thread) blocks, waiting for mysql all the time | 11:57 |
| gerhardqux | sqlalchemy creates a loop when a resource is locked, because it wants the lock itself | 11:58 |
| gerhardqux | so you have around 10 green threads blocking the process, just trying to create locks | 11:59 |
| gerhardqux | and the cinder process cannot do anything else | 11:59 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | when decreasing the innodb wait lock timeout, things started to move forward more quickly … how is the db server involved when there is only one thread talking to it at any given moment? | 12:04 |
| arnewiebalck__ | or is that param attached to the session and the client gives up after the timeout? | 12:05 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: ^ | 12:09 |
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| gerhardqux | I don't know this yet | 12:14 |
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| smcginnis | gerhardqux, arnewiebalck__: Wow, nice! | 12:17 |
| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: That might explain why I was never able to repro this - I always just used mysql+pymysql | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467141 | 12:18 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: exactly, I was thinking the same thing! | 12:21 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: ^^ | 12:24 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Didn't you have a patch that fixed something like this before? http://logs.openstack.org/41/466941/1/check/gate-cross-cinder-python27-ubuntu-xenial/86a663b/console.html#_2017-05-23_10_12_14_072514 | 12:29 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: I think I was thinking of this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363008 | 12:37 |
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| bjornar_ | What are the config keys that influences if nova is allowed to Authenticate with X-Service-Token/X-Auth-Token or not? | 12:44 |
| bjornar_ | I get a 401 from cinder when trying to attach a volume.. | 12:44 |
| bjornar_ | X-Service-Token is then nova and X-Auth-Token whoever is trying to attach the volume (admin in this case) | 12:45 |
| bjornar_ | verified that keystone serves back the correct token information to cinder.. | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Backup driver initialization https://review.openstack.org/367439 | 12:49 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: I think I've fixed a couple of issues like that one | 12:57 |
| geguileo | although I don't know where this specific one is comming from | 12:57 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: But I think I know where the problem is | 13:05 |
| geguileo | although it's not probably that since it doesn't seem to be failing all the time, right? | 13:06 |
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| eantyshev | e0ne: Hello! Could you please take look here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462563 ? | 13:22 |
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| e0ne | eantyshev: hi. sure, I'll review it | 13:22 |
| e0ne | eantyshev: I don't see CI results for it | 13:23 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks. Yeah, it seems to fail intermittently. | 13:23 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: tommylikehu said he was going to look in to it, so if you have any advice for him... | 13:24 |
| geguileo | I'll try to debug it, because my initial idea would mean it always fails... | 13:24 |
| geguileo | oh, ok | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Mock qemu calls in sheepdog tests https://review.openstack.org/465626 | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shay Halsband proposed openstack/cinder master: XtremIO: reduce number of backend calls https://review.openstack.org/467245 | 13:57 |
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| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: That is great news. | 14:06 |
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| hemna | guwak | 14:08 |
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| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: gerhardqux smcginnis I just verified that I also had mysql+pymysql set on the environment where I was trying to recreate this. | 14:13 |
| jungleboyj | So, it appears that we found a solution. Thank you so much gerhardqux ! | 14:13 |
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| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: What connection string were you using that failed? | 14:16 |
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| gerhardqux | maybe oslo.db should log warnings when the mysql libc driver is used in combination with eventlets | 14:22 |
| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: mysql://… | 14:23 |
| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: I guess this has been carried forward since we set up Cinder some 4 years ago. | 14:24 |
| gerhardqux | or create something like "cinder-manage doctor" to give warnings for situations that are not recommended (like running without cache) | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder master: Tiramisu: replication group support https://review.openstack.org/352228 | 14:30 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: Ok, so you are thinking that this was an old configuration option that was pulled forward from your older config files? | 14:30 |
| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: FWIU, pymysql would be the default, no? | 14:32 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: That is the default I am seeing. | 14:32 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: Where does your default come from? | 14:34 |
| arnewiebalck__ | The docs do not specify which sql to use, do they? | 14:35 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: Good question. Let me look here. | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: Last time I went through the install guide, it did state to use pymysql. | 14:35 |
| smcginnis | gerhardqux: That might be something good to propose to oslo.db. At least a debug warning or something so there's a chance it could be found. | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: In my case it was being set by lib/database in devstack it appears. | 14:38 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 14:39 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: in our case it’s set by the Puppet module which extracts it from our secret store … I guess it was set once and never looked at again (as it “worked”) :) | 14:43 |
| lpetrut | Hi guys, I have this chain of patches on the SMBFS driver (some on the base RemoteFS one as well), already have +2s (thanks Jay), could use a second one :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424233/ | 14:43 |
| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: the default in the Pupper module is 'sqlite:////var/lib/cinder/cinder.sqlite' | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Wow, they default to sqlite? I wonder why they would do that. | 14:44 |
| * jungleboyj is baffled. :-) | 14:45 | |
| dfisher | it defaults to sqlite likely because it requires literally no additional components to "work" | 14:46 |
| dfisher | mysql/maria requires those packages to be installed, services to be running, etc. not saying that's hard (especially with puppet), but it's additional work | 14:46 |
| smcginnis | dfisher: Yeah, sqlite is great for tests for that reason. But that's the only case I would use it. :) | 14:47 |
| dfisher | oh, absolutely. | 14:47 |
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| hemna | jungleboyj, https://goo.gl/pllr6g | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:48 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: :-) | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/cinder master: api-ref cleanup: required flag for tenants https://review.openstack.org/406056 | 14:49 |
| jungleboyj | I was thinking something more like this: http://gph.is/1jskbwn | 14:49 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: this was mostly to say that users of the Puppet module for Cinder are not misled by the default, they have to actively set a value (which may create sadness down the road like in our case) | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: True. | 14:53 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | anyway, kudos to gerhardqux for having spotted this! | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, good catch! | 14:53 |
| arnewiebalck__ | I’ll deploy this and run some more serious tests with larger Magnum clusters to see how it does in production. | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | Very good catch. | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: So do we have a follow up here? | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gyorgy Szombathelyi proposed openstack/cinder master: Use the deprecated os_privileged_xxx settings https://review.openstack.org/467132 | 14:57 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I don't think there's much we can do from the Cinder side. | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: But I like the idea of seeing if there's something that can be done - at least a warning - on the oslo.db side. | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient master: Tiramisu: replication group support https://review.openstack.org/352229 | 15:00 |
| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: +1 | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: smcginnis ++ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, if it known that this could blow up on you some sort of warning should be produced. | 15:01 |
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| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: or gerhardqux Is that something you could propose to Oslo? | 15:02 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: what about the “SQLAlchemy connection string comment” in https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/block-storage/samples/cinder.conf.html ? | 15:02 |
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| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: Do people read comments? :D | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: Yeah, we could add a note there for sure! | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | arnewiebalck__: You want to do that? | 15:04 |
| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: well, at least you can say “look here” :-D | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 15:05 |
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| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: +1 | 15:06 |
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| jungleboyj | So if you want to propose an update there we can help get that through. | 15:09 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: that potentially affects more projects than just Cinder, no? | 15:11 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, that's why I think it would be good to get something in oslo.db. | 15:14 |
| arnewiebalck__ | smcginnis: agreed, I can give that a try | 15:14 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that is the best way to go. | 15:14 |
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| smcginnis | I wonder if this would be worth a post the the ops ML to spread the word. I can do that. | 15:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: And I can bring it up at the next Oslo meeting. | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: +1 | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Base functionality, replacing SMI-S with REST https://review.openstack.org/455428 | 15:20 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, so we have Arne proposing a warning to Oslo, Sean sending a note to the mailing list and me making the Oslo team aware of it. | 15:23 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Done | 15:26 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. | 15:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Retype, replacing SMI-S with REST https://review.openstack.org/456757 | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix fetching VHD images from Glance https://review.openstack.org/467285 | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - QoS, replacing SMI-S with REST https://review.openstack.org/456759 | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | lpetrut: You are welcome. Thanks for quickly responding to my comments. | 15:39 |
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| arnewiebalck__ | jungleboyj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1692956 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692956 in oslo.db "Warn about potentially misconfigured connection string " [Undecided,New] | 15:41 |
| jungleboyj | arnewiebalck__: Cool. | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/cinder master: Create volume from VHD format image always failed https://review.openstack.org/467039 | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Compression, replacing SMI-S with REST https://review.openstack.org/460191 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467141 | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Add blockbox to Cinder project https://review.openstack.org/467304 | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: woot | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder master: VMAX driver - Replication, replacing SMI-S with REST https://review.openstack.org/466027 | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis worth a shot :) | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ironic. You pushed that up while I was talking to a co-worker about running Cinder in containers. :-) | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder master: Use the list iterator instead of six iterator https://review.openstack.org/449869 | 17:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dhinesh Balasubramaniam proposed openstack/cinder master: Hedvig Cinder driver implementation and unit tests. https://review.openstack.org/433341 | 17:42 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, ok so I just tried out the cinder patch for the block-box | 17:59 |
| hemna | the build worked, but I still can't fire up the devenv container | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467342 | 17:59 |
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| jgriffith | hemna you know it just runs a command and exits right? | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | Unless you launch bash | 18:06 |
| hemna | it just gens the conf | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | If that’s all you tell it to do yes | 18:07 |
| hemna | yah I just figured that out | 18:07 |
| hemna | heh | 18:07 |
| hemna | what was throwing me off was the puking of the oslo warnings | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | If you want to poke at things just change the command to `bash` to interact with it | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | Oh! Yeah, so that happens in normal env too I noticed | 18:07 |
| hemna | yup | 18:08 |
| hemna | I just ran that outside of the container and saw that....so the lightbulb turned on | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | Yeah, it threw me off at first too | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder-specs master: Correct the filter name for changes-since spec https://review.openstack.org/462015 | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | I’m not quite sure why we don’t get the pretty green success message | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | Oh, yeah I know | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | That comes from the top layer | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | tox | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | Stupid auto-correct | 18:09 |
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| hemna | ok the review is in the merge pipeline now :) | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467345 | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | I misspell the right words, it spells the wrong words correctly | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | Don’t know which is better/worse | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | Oh sweet!!! | 18:09 |
| hemna | yah I really despise autocorrect | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | hemna so if you want to tinker, using that devbox as a development environment from a Mac works pretty nice | 18:11 |
| jgriffith | I do have to figure out something with number of threads for unit tests, cuz a single thread for our unit test suite is horrifyingly long | 18:11 |
| ildikov | hemna: autocorrect on smart phones is pretty useful at least to me, no text communication without that... | 18:11 |
| hemna | I find it corrects stuff it shouldn't most of the time. | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Single thread is painfully looon. | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | g | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | Loony too I guess. | 18:12 |
| ildikov | hemna: I'm not saying we don't have our moments, but I wouldn't despise it for sure :) | 18:12 |
| jgriffith | There is an option to allocate more cpus, but I haven’t messed with it | 18:12 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis auto-correct? | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:13 |
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| jungleboyj | I like painfully loooooon | 18:13 |
| smcginnis | Painfully loooong, painfully loony. | 18:13 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: lol :) | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis bottom line “it ain’t good" | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | hemna BTW, what’s kinda neat is using those templates to plug in to a devstack that’s running without Cinder | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | So I have a long running devstack with no cinder that just runs, I swap version of cinder in and out depending on what I’m working on | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | Anyway…. I hope people check it out and find it useful/improve on it | 18:15 |
| hemna | cinder development can't get much better than having all the other services just up and cinder in a container. | 18:15 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Starting to see the value there. | 18:15 |
| smcginnis | Sweet - never thought of doing it that way. | 18:15 |
| hemna | I'll use separate source trees and another container to test out different stuffs, instead of an entire new vagrant. | 18:15 |
| hemna | and, I'd say it's a great way to look at testing out active/active HA cinder | 18:16 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: That is cool. | 18:16 |
| hemna | after you start using docker containers for apps, it's really hard to go back | 18:16 |
| jungleboyj | Some really nice guy was good enough to explain this craze to me yesterday. Now I don't feel like I am out of the loop on Containers. :-) | 18:17 |
| smcginnis | :) | 18:18 |
| mriedem | hemna: smcginnis: jungleboyj: is there no standard format for the keys that go into the device_info dict returned from connect_volume in os-brick? | 18:18 |
| mriedem | because i see some volume drivers in nova are using device_info['path'] | 18:18 |
| mriedem | but veritas is using device_path https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466437/1/os_brick/initiator/connectors/vrtshyperscale.py | 18:18 |
| hemna | some of the connectors are not block types, they are object types | 18:19 |
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| hemna | mriedem, is the libvirt volume driver looking for device_path for vrts ? | 18:20 |
| mriedem | it will be | 18:20 |
| hemna | ok, well it's easy to change that to path :) | 18:20 |
| hemna | would you like me to? | 18:20 |
| mriedem | well, | 18:20 |
| mriedem | that's kind of a break in the api isn't it? | 18:20 |
| mriedem | to os-brick | 18:20 |
| mriedem | i guess right now the libvirt volume driver is not even using it | 18:21 |
| hemna | nobody is using that connector right now | 18:21 |
| hemna | I'd have to look at the cinder driver to see what it's looking for, in the case of copy image <--> volume case | 18:21 |
| hemna | but that's easily changeable too | 18:22 |
| mriedem | i don't see the volume driver in cinder using brick at all | 18:23 |
| hemna | I was just looking at that | 18:24 |
| hemna | looks like all the real work is done in the veritas/utils.py | 18:25 |
| hemna | so I think it's probably safe to change that to 'path' from 'device_path' and then -1 the veritas libvirt review | 18:25 |
| mriedem | i've already -1ed the nova change, | 18:26 |
| mriedem | but because i wanted them to use the 1.13.0 brick version from g-r so they could just do the todo in the nova code now, | 18:26 |
| mriedem | but if we're going to change brick, then we have to wait for another release | 18:26 |
| mriedem | anywho | 18:26 |
| smcginnis | We're going to be at os-brick 1.55.0 by the time this is all straightened out. | 18:27 |
| hemna | the vrts connector isn't in a current os-brick release yet | 18:27 |
| hemna | it's just in github | 18:27 |
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| hemna | I'll push up a patch to change it | 18:28 |
| mriedem | it's in 1.13.0 | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | hemna: And 1.12.0 | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | And maybe even 1.11.0 | 18:28 |
| hemna | bah | 18:28 |
| mriedem | maybe need a test to whitelist the keys in the device_info dict | 18:28 |
| mriedem | or use a versioned object or something | 18:28 |
| hemna | guess nobody caught that in the reviews | 18:28 |
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| hemna | I didn't get a chance to review that one before it landed. | 18:29 |
| mriedem | went into 1.12.0, the connector i mean | 18:29 |
| mriedem | anyway | 18:29 |
| mriedem | we have time to wait on the nova side | 18:29 |
| mriedem | just do a patch release | 18:29 |
| mriedem | 1.13.1 or something | 18:29 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Yeah, this one we should be able to do that. | 18:29 |
| hemna | https://gist.github.com/0307e9d63c24da43fc7843effdc49575 | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | Last one it wasn't until a bunch of other stuff merged that they realized they needed to change something. | 18:30 |
| mriedem | btw, nothing is using it except veritas' k8s product which uses standalone cinder and brick | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Looks simple enough. | 18:30 |
| hemna | are we ok with that? or do you want me to keep device_path in for anyone that might be using it :( | 18:31 |
| mriedem | i was joking about the k8s thing, | 18:31 |
| hemna | ok :) | 18:31 |
| mriedem | but in the future utopia where you guys don't have nova, you might have to care about who is using your code | 18:31 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Might be safe to keep it compatible. Or they can comment on the patch if they need it. | 18:32 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem you’re being a bit unfair don’t you think? | 19:17 |
| mriedem | a bit yes | 19:18 |
| jgriffith | mriedem we might not run as tight a ship as some, but it’s tighter than others… and at least we’re trying to work together and to the right thing | 19:19 |
| mriedem | my point being we can assume things within the openstack arena, but once there are outside consumers, it will be tougher | 19:19 |
| jgriffith | mriedem understood/agreed | 19:20 |
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| jungleboyj | mriedem: Always trying to harsh our mellow. | 19:22 |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 19:22 |
| mriedem | can it hippy | 19:22 |
| jungleboyj | It is what happens when I am left out here looking at the lake all day. | 19:23 |
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| jgriffith | Ha, never thought I’d here jungleboyj described as a *hippy* | 19:33 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 19:34 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis so I wonder what you and others think about the idea of bfs orchestration living “somewhere else" | 19:46 |
| jgriffith | As in OSC or even Cinder | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | bfs? | 19:47 |
| jgriffith | Bahhh!!! Damn auto-correct!!!! | 19:47 |
| jgriffith | I hate you! | 19:47 |
| jgriffith | BFV | 19:47 |
| jungleboyj | Bathroom Fixture Store | 19:47 |
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| jgriffith | Well yeah! We all want nice handles on our faucets | 19:47 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Interesting that you mention that. | 19:47 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 19:48 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think there are a few "orchestration" things that don't fit in Cinder or Nova or X. | 19:48 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis you working on a new project? :) | 19:48 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: And we need some layer/tool/orchestrator/whateveryouwanttocallit that provides a nice simple API and does all the little steps underneath to service it. | 19:48 |
| jgriffith | indeed | 19:49 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Nah, I don't even have time to write Cinder code. :D | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | There was a talk about this in Boston | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | Can’t remember what it was though... | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | But I was thinking, OSC might be an interesting place for such things | 19:49 |
| jgriffith | Assuming that dtroyer and team had any remote interest at al | 19:49 |
| smcginnis | I need to look into it yet, but what avbout oaktree? | 19:50 |
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| jgriffith | I hadn’t thought of that | 19:52 |
| jgriffith | This is what I was thinking of: https://github.com/jaypipes/enamel | 19:52 |
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| smcginnis | Oh yeah, that was the other one I've heard mentioned. | 19:52 |
| jgriffith | Need to ask jay pipes about that | 19:52 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Just doing a quick read through of that, it might be the better fit. | 19:53 |
| jgriffith | Will look at oak tree, maybe that’s the same deal… but there’s that whole sensible layer there | 19:53 |
| smcginnis | Might have to bookmark that one for further reading. | 19:53 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think this is an interesting point: http://inaugust.com/talks/oaktree.html#/11 | 19:58 |
| smcginnis | It might be nice to separate out our inter-service APIs from our client facing APIs through something like this. | 19:58 |
| mriedem | osc isn't an api binding | 19:58 |
| mriedem | the sdk is | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/467345 | 19:58 |
| mriedem | s/the/one of the 50/ | 19:58 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Yeah, I think the idea is looking at what could become a better interface. | 19:59 |
| mriedem | k8s will solve all the problems | 20:00 |
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| jgriffith | mriedem and create a billion new ones! :) | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | I was just thinking it’d be interesting if OSC did more than just wrap up all the existing clients, but I guess that’s crazy | 20:02 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: I think it depends also on the timeline you set for that to happen | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | ildikov next week :) | 20:03 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: what's crazy is you wanting to create servers through cinder when doing bfv | 20:03 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: in that case it's *insane* :) | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | mriedem :) I said it was an awful idea | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | But not much worse than creating volumes from nova when you boot instances :) | 20:04 |
| mriedem | someone is already working on an api extension for it in their private cloud now | 20:04 |
| jgriffith | mriedem surely you jest | 20:04 |
| smcginnis | From the cinder side? | 20:05 |
| mriedem | yes i'm joking, | 20:05 |
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| smcginnis | jaypipes: Hey! | 20:05 |
| mriedem | but someone probably thought, "i can write that" | 20:05 |
| jaypipes | hola smcginnis :) | 20:05 |
| ildikov | mriedem: well, multi-attach is in production, so I can imagine almost anything by now... | 20:05 |
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| smcginnis | jaypipes: We were just talking about some upper layer that can coordinate things like creating cinder volumes that then creates nova instances to boot from them. | 20:06 |
| jgriffith | Wow… he’s kinda like BeetleJuice | 20:06 |
| smcginnis | jaypipes: Is that along the lines of the enamel stuff you've been doing? | 20:06 |
| mriedem | ildikov: multiattach is i'm sure in multiple clouds for multiple years now | 20:06 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Just gotta say his name three times. | 20:06 |
| mriedem | and people are having a ball rebasing it | 20:06 |
| ildikov | oh they do | 20:07 |
| ildikov | at least I don't have those patches up for nothing :) | 20:07 |
| jaypipes | smcginnis: enamel was something me, cdent, tdurakov and rpodolyaka played around with in Feb last year. Didn't go anywhere -- not enough time to work on it -- but the intent was definitely to be the thing that would be a porcelain API, yes. | 20:08 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I asked the guy to upload his version, they're on Mitaka right now with it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466184/ | 20:08 |
| jaypipes | thus the name enamel :) | 20:08 |
| ildikov | mriedem: and here's the Cinder side: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466218/ | 20:08 |
| mriedem | ildikov: that's ibm right? | 20:08 |
| smcginnis | jaypipes: So the idea is basically to have a simplified API layer that has a little business logic to hide the sausage making from the consumer? | 20:08 |
| mriedem | they've had multiattach in powervc for years | 20:08 |
| mriedem | they never helped upstream, but meh | 20:09 |
| ildikov | not sure at this point whether we can reuse anything from it, but worth a look still | 20:09 |
| jaypipes | smcginnis: yes, xactly. | 20:09 |
| ildikov | mriedem: not IBM | 20:09 |
| smcginnis | jaypipes: Cool. I might have to try to play around with what you've got up there. | 20:09 |
| smcginnis | jaypipes: There may be more interest for that now. | 20:09 |
| ildikov | mriedem: would need to look it up, but I'm sure not IBM | 20:10 |
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| smcginnis | jaypipes: Thanks for the info. I might ping you if I actually get anywhere with that and have questions. | 20:10 |
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| mriedem | ildikov: samsung now, | 20:11 |
| mriedem | but used to be ibm | 20:11 |
| mriedem | https://www.linkedin.com/in/abillore/?ppe=1 | 20:11 |
| mriedem | i remember, from when he was on powervc | 20:11 |
| ildikov | mriedem: oh ok, I didn't have that background | 20:12 |
| ildikov | mriedem: I'm trying to be more forward looking usually :) | 20:12 |
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| jaypipes | smcginnis: sure thing, any time :) | 20:20 |
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| dfisher | bummer. | 20:28 |
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