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| anteaya | jgriffith: I understand your position and agree with you, cinder and neutron are very different in how drivers are regarded | 00:06 |
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| anteaya | jgriffith: I don't know how many on the tc recognize how different they are | 00:07 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: yeah, makes it interesting | 00:07 |
| anteaya | very interesting | 00:07 |
| anteaya | I think some folks on the tc are about to get more of an education than they bargain for on this | 00:07 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: frankly I wouldn't expect the TC to help if *we* as a team (cinder) can't figure it out | 00:07 |
| jgriffith | haha | 00:07 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: perhaps | 00:08 |
| anteaya | yeah it will be interesting what shakes out now that out of tree drivers feel they should be in governance | 00:08 |
| anteaya | with the argument they were before when they were in tree | 00:08 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: I still haven't digested all of that, need to look through it some more this evening | 00:08 |
| anteaya | yup | 00:08 |
| anteaya | lots to digest | 00:08 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: it seems they've gone back and forth a couple times at this point | 00:09 |
| anteaya | I believe it | 00:09 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: oh well.. there goes my dream of Cinder drivers being out of tree some day :( | 00:09 |
| jgriffith | RIP good idea | 00:09 |
| anteaya | the thing that gets me is the folks arguing for including them in governance can't seem to get a handle on what open source means | 00:09 |
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| jgriffith | We'll just continue having half the driver in tree and the other half out | 00:09 |
| anteaya | yeah, it might mean the end of that approach | 00:09 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: yeah, I've come to the conclusion that Open Source doesn't really have a well defined meaning here any more | 00:10 |
| anteaya | this may be an opportunity for it to be reasserted | 00:10 |
| anteaya | or not | 00:10 |
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| anteaya | but yeah it is very disappointing that many folks don't seem to be able to grasp the basics | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: "what's wrong with requiring my proprietary lib for Cinder to work"... ME: OpenStack is an Open Source project... Them: "what's wrong with requiring my proprietary lib for cinder to work" | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | round and round and round | 00:11 |
| anteaya | yep | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: nope | 00:11 |
| anteaya | yeah :( | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | oh well.. on that note, I'm going to drive home | 00:11 |
| anteaya | safe drive | 00:11 |
| jgriffith | thanks! catch ya later | 00:11 |
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| anteaya | sounds good | 00:11 |
| anteaya | thanks john | 00:11 |
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| kfox1111 | I think all the rest just use network api's? | 00:35 |
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| thisisdos1984 | can somebody tell me if its possible to use existing raw block devices as cinder volumes ? | 02:51 |
| thisisdos1984 | i saw the block_device.py code but it seems that you need to create volume ! | 02:53 |
| thisisdos1984 | am i correct? | 02:53 |
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| thisisdos1984 | hi Raunak | 02:55 |
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| thisisdos1984 | hi Eric | 02:57 |
| TommyLikeHu | how to specify the microversion in request header? | 03:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | TommyLike proposed openstack/cinder: add volume type filter to API Get-Pools https://review.openstack.org/367096 | 06:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/367133 | 07:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - Won't delete pre-existing initiator groups. https://review.openstack.org/365705 | 14:48 |
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| cFouts | smcginnis: Can you set the milestone set to RC1 for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1596679? | 14:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596679 in Cinder "NetApp - Backing snapshots may not be deleted" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chuck Fouts (fchuck) | 14:55 |
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| smcginnis | cFouts: Done | 14:59 |
| cFouts | thanks! | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | cFouts: No problem. | 14:59 |
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| smcginnis | Wow, just realizing Ocata milestones will only be ~1 month apart. | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | O-2 to O-3 is going to be interesting with the holidays in there too. | 15:00 |
| bswartz | smcginnis: did you see the final release is scheduled for february? | 15:01 |
| Swanson | o-3 will be o-2 with a new label. | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: No, just based on the proposed schedule. Which I assume will end up being the final schedule. | 15:01 |
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| smcginnis | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214/7/doc/source/ocata/schedule.rst | 15:02 |
| bswartz | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ <-- this is what I've been looking at | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Oh, hadn't seen that one yet. | 15:02 |
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| smcginnis | Heard it was going to be Atlanta, but didn't see all the details. | 15:03 |
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| thisisdos1984 | hi Guys | 15:52 |
| thisisdos1984 | is there a way to do Nova quince before taking cinder snapshot ? | 15:53 |
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| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: I don't believe so. That would have to be driven from the nova side to tell Cinder to snap once it's been quiesced. | 15:53 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: we talked in ATL about this... once Nova is ready and comfortable that they will be on a new enough version of libvirt, we could implement a call "to nova" to quiesce, then snap" | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Oh, that's right. You need a recent version of libvirt for that functionality, right? | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | More recent than 14.04's default IIRC. | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | yeah | 15:57 |
| thisisdos1984 | hmm .. so u mean, 1. nova quiesce 2. nova snapshot 3. cinder snapshot 4. nova unquiesce ? | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: IIRC that was the only real hurdle | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: no | 15:57 |
| thisisdos1984 | then ? sorry to trouble you guys ! | 15:58 |
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| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: so cinder snapshot ----> cinder-"is volume attached" if yes: Call nova to quiesce, wait for ok, then snap, tell nova it can have it back" | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: keep it in Cinder | 15:58 |
| scottda | I think nova uses quiesce for live migration...not sure of that, though. | 15:58 |
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| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: Nova shouldn't need to snap. It just needs to quiesce the VM so cinder's snap to be consistent. | 15:58 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: right... everything orchestrated by cinder | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Well, I guess I could see it from either side. It just needs to be coordinated. | 15:59 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: right, but given that the call is going in to Cinder you want it coordinated on that side | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Maybe even by something like smaug. The only issue is being able to do it quick enough not to cause trouble for the guest OS. | 16:00 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: you can have nova coordinate a "cinder snapshot xxxx" call very well :) | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | s/can/can't/ | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: it would end badly :) | 16:00 |
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| thisisdos1984 | ok .. so current cinder snapshot does not have this option to call to nova to quiesce .. am i right? | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: hehe... correct | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Not sure if nova would like something else outside telling it to zombify a VM and maybe not come back though. ;) | 16:01 |
| hemna | I think it also requires an agent in the guest to work correctly too | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: then we never implement the feature | 16:01 |
| thisisdos1984 | :) | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | hemna: nope | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I think you're right - to get it truly consistent. | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that's the beauty of the command | 16:01 |
| thisisdos1984 | nooooooo .. we need consistent snapshots right? | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | hemna: it just freezes the instance so you don't have to worry about it | 16:02 |
| hemna | I believe the fs inside the guest has to be frozen | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: That doesn't always work though. | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that's what the libvirt command does :) | 16:02 |
| hemna | because of the heavy linux ram caching | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: The OS might need to know to flush out cached IO, commit transactions to be application consistent, etc. | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | anyway, it's all kind of irrelevant right now | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: True! :) | 16:02 |
| hemna | smcginnis, that's what I thought as well | 16:03 |
| thisisdos1984 | so John, r u trying to say that its unsafe to call freeze from cinder side ? | 16:03 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: smcginnis the queisce command in libvirt does exactly that IIRC | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Not sure. | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/implemented/quiesced-image-snapshots-with-qemu-guest-agent.html | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | I know from the Windows side, you need something to talk to the VSS service to coordinate everything within the guest. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Oh, there you go, guest agent. :P | 16:04 |
| hemna | http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Qemu_guest_agent | 16:04 |
| * jgriffith doesn't know why he even said anything | 16:05 | |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:05 |
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| jgriffith | the bottom line is we don't have the ability to do it currently | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | we'd need to implement *things* in Cinder and Nova to do it | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Yep, like you said, irrelevant at this point. | 16:06 |
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| xyang | jgriffith: regarding that guest agent, I thought there were several proposals in the past to add an API in Nova so it can be called outside of Nova, but they were all rejected. | 16:10 |
| xyang | jgriffith: I'm trying to find a link | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | xyang: yeah, I don't know current status | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | xyang: like I said, I should've just kept quiet :) | 16:11 |
| xyang | jgriffith: maybe this is the one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/expose-quiesce-unquiesce-api | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | rather than going in the weeds :) | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | xyang: yeah, I saw that one... also saw it's been rejected/abandoned :( | 16:13 |
| xyang | jgriffith: and that was not the first time this idea was rejected either | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | xyang: sadly no it is not | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey Khodos proposed openstack/cinder: NexentaStor5: add extend method to NFS driver https://review.openstack.org/297880 | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | xyang: that's why I've just sort of stopped thinking about it honestly | 16:13 |
| thisisdos1984 | no no, please dont be quiet .. newbies like me need help from u guys | 16:14 |
| xyang | jgriffith: same here:) | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | xyang: those previous proposals were better and more detailed than I could've ever done so if they didn't make it past the bar, no way I am going ot | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | to | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Helen Walsh proposed openstack/cinder: VMAX driver - failed rollback on VMAX3 when MV issue https://review.openstack.org/358026 | 16:16 |
| thisisdos1984 | so there is no way to take consistent snapshots of entire VM | 16:17 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: which driver are you using | 16:17 |
| thisisdos1984 | lvm | 16:17 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: for lvm we do need that quiesce api | 16:18 |
| thisisdos1984 | wouldnt libvirt api in guest do the same ? | 16:18 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: yes | 16:19 |
| thisisdos1984 | sorry for asking basic questions here | 16:19 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: you can call it yourself before taking the snapshot | 16:19 |
| thisisdos1984 | so do i need to invoke the quiesce api before taking nova and cinder snaps ? | 16:19 |
| scottda | thisisdos1984: That was actually a good question. Thanks for asking. | 16:19 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: quiesce before and unquiesce after | 16:20 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: if you are taking a snapshot on nova side, it should be taken care of by nova | 16:20 |
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| xyang | thisisdos1984: for cinder, you'll have to make a call yourself | 16:21 |
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| thisisdos1984 | it its taken care by nova itself then it will make only Nova snapshot consistent, not cinder | 16:21 |
| thisisdos1984 | right ? | 16:21 |
| thisisdos1984 | if* | 16:21 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: yes | 16:22 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: nova does it internally | 16:22 |
| thisisdos1984 | were there ever a requirement of making both nova and cinder consistent together ? | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: If you can script libvirt quiesce, cinder snap, libvirt unquiesce, then the Cinder snapshot(s) theoretically should be consistent. | 16:22 |
| thisisdos1984 | yeah .. but not with the nova snapshot, right? | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: If IO is held off during that period, it should all be consistent. | 16:23 |
| thisisdos1984 | so my backup program is like this, 1. take nova snap 2. take cinder snap 3. back up both | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: That sounds mostly safe. :) | 16:24 |
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| xyang | you quiesce before step 1 and unquiesce after 2 | 16:24 |
| thisisdos1984 | but if nova or cinder quiesce/unquiesce on their own, they wont be consistent with each other | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: Cinder doesn't quiesce. As long as KVM has written out its data, cinder just has to create a snapshot. | 16:25 |
| thisisdos1984 | oh .. but that would cause double quiesce on nova side because nova does it on its own, am i right? | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: Not sure where you'd end up quiescing twice. Can you explain a little more? | 16:26 |
| thisisdos1984 | ok .. does nova snapshot operation quiesce/unquiese the VM ? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: Yes, I believe so. | 16:28 |
| thisisdos1984 | now, as per your suggestion, in my backup program, if I quiesce before step 1 and unquiesce after 2 | 16:29 |
| thisisdos1984 | wouldnt that cause double quiesce while taking nova snapshot ? | 16:29 |
| thisisdos1984 | in step 1 | 16:30 |
| thisisdos1984 | am I missing something ? | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: it kinda depends... there's a difference between ephemeral, boot-from-volume and a seondary attached volume | 16:31 |
| thisisdos1984 | ok | 16:31 |
| thisisdos1984 | so nova snapshot will only quiesce non-cinder volumes ? | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | thisisdos1984: If the nova snap is part of the quiesce then it's once, but I won't claim to know much about the mechanics between KVM and the guest. | 16:31 |
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| thisisdos1984 | jgriffith: so lets take one at a time .. nova snapshot creates is only about ephemeral disks, am I right? | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: actually no | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: it will also deal with boot from volume | 16:34 |
| thisisdos1984 | damn .. i need to go back to basics here .. sorry folks | 16:34 |
| thisisdos1984 | ok | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: maybe the more accurate way to say it is that it cares about the "root disk" | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | thisisdos1984: whether that be ephemeral, cinder-vol etc | 16:35 |
| thisisdos1984 | cool .. thats perfect .. got it ! so i want to make root and non-root disks consistent together | 16:35 |
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| xyang | thisisdos1984: there is an option to disable live snapshot in nova | 16:37 |
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| xyang | thisisdos1984: CONF.workarounds.disable_libvirt_livesnapshot | 16:37 |
| xyang | thisisdos1984: you can try that | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | xyang: this cloud stuff is easy :) | 16:37 |
| xyang | :) | 16:37 |
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| xyang | @smcginnis: question about soft string freeze. If a bug is fixing a translatable message that is wrong, what option do we have? just leave the wrong message there unfixed? | 16:44 |
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| cFouts | fwiw application level consistent snapshots are typically desired over file system consistent snapshots by customers :) | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Stop using mox in unit/volume/drivers/*.py https://review.openstack.org/357652 | 17:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Stop using mox in unit/api/contrib/ tests (1/2) https://review.openstack.org/356856 | 17:03 |
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| nikeshm | xyang hemna smcginnis: hi if you get time please review this multipath issue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366759 in kaminario cinder driver, small changes only | 17:27 |
| nikeshm | and orhphan view issue | 17:27 |
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| mriedem | hemna: do these need to be warnings? http://logs.openstack.org/55/367455/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-cells/1d8af83/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-09-08_16_01_34_353 | 17:30 |
| mriedem | for a retry type thing, it seems INFO is the highest we should go | 17:30 |
| hemna | let me check | 17:31 |
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| hemna | mriedem, https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py#L406 | 17:32 |
| hemna | want me to change that to INFO ? | 17:32 |
| mriedem | i'm opening a bug | 17:33 |
| mriedem | i can change it | 17:33 |
| hemna | ok | 17:33 |
| mriedem | you can +2 | 17:33 |
| mriedem | :P | 17:33 |
| hemna | up to you | 17:33 |
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| hemna | mriedem, https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/os_brick/initiator/connectors/fibre_channel.py#L159 | 17:33 |
| hemna | change that one too | 17:33 |
| hemna | and any others | 17:34 |
| hemna | or I can go through them all and do it | 17:34 |
| mriedem | i'm on it | 17:34 |
| hemna | ok coolio | 17:34 |
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| nikeshm | hemna: hi | 17:35 |
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| hemna | nikeshm, hey | 17:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/os-brick: Change warning to info logging for connected volume rescans https://review.openstack.org/367550 | 17:43 |
| mriedem | hemna: ^ those were the only 2 for rescan that i found | 17:43 |
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| nikeshm | hemna: can you please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366759 in kaminario cinder driver, small changes only | 17:45 |
| nikeshm | CI and jenkins are happy | 17:46 |
| nikeshm | tested with multipath configuration in CI too | 17:46 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: It is soft string freeze, so I wouldn't hold up a bug fix because of it. | 17:46 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: We can still have some string changes. They should just be avoided is possible. | 17:46 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: But if it's between a string change and fixing a valid bug that someones going to run into, better to fix the bug IMO. | 17:47 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Just increases the chance that we will end up with a string that is not getting translated. | 17:47 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: ok, thanks | 17:48 |
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| nikeshm | one doubt: i used filter_function = "capabilities.total_volumes < 10" in cinder.conf under my backend configuration group and then i created 11 volumes concurrently without any delay | 17:53 |
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| nikeshm | it is able to create 11th volume since total_volumes stats was not updated | 17:54 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: sadly thats a side effect of the scheduler caching/polling driver stats | 17:54 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: same kinda thing happens with thin provisioned volumes and the way it keeps track of space between driver stat checks | 17:55 |
| hemna | mriedem, found another one in the AOE connector | 17:55 |
| mriedem | hemna: cool will get it | 17:56 |
| hemna | thanks | 17:56 |
| nikeshm | is there any way to avoid this, or we have to use some delay | 17:56 |
| nikeshm | patrickeast: is there any way to avoid this, or we have to use some delay | 17:56 |
| nikeshm | to wait for stats | 17:57 |
| nikeshm | to update | 17:57 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: well, the only way to make it work correctly would be to either check the driver more often, which adds load (some drivers the update is relatively slow) | 17:57 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: or for something like volume count maybe the scheduler could just keep track better | 17:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/os-brick: Change warning to info logging for connected volume rescans https://review.openstack.org/367550 | 18:00 |
| nikeshm | patrickeast: do any driver implement this? from 'volume count' do you mean 'volume count in cinder list'? | 18:01 |
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| thisisdos1984 | sorry guys .. got disconnected ! | 18:08 |
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| thisisdos1984 | so we were at taking consistent snapshots for root and non-root volumes ! | 18:08 |
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| thisisdos1984 | 1. libvirt quiesce 2. FS freeze 3. Nova snapshot 4. Cinder snapshot 5. FS unfreeze | 18:10 |
| thisisdos1984 | does this sound like a doable task ? | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Error attaching after LV-AFO https://review.openstack.org/361453 | 18:13 |
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| patrickeast | nikeshm: no, its the driver stats update like https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/pure.py#L572 | 18:17 |
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| patrickeast | nikeshm: the problem being the scheduler polls for updates of those every like 30 seconds or whatever, so between updates the scheduler is out of sync with the driver | 18:18 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: what we recommend with our backend is to use the driver weigher method and have it drop weights on backends that get close to the volume limit so the scheduler won't keep pushing volumes onto the backend if there is another (better) option | 18:19 |
| patrickeast | nikeshm: and then have the hard limit on the driver filter_function a little bit before the actual one so there is some buffer | 18:20 |
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| patrickeast | thisisdos1984: from a high level, yea that seems doable, best part being that there is not really anything that needs to be done in cinder | 18:27 |
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| patrickeast | just call the snapshot api | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: Add os-detach to api-ref https://review.openstack.org/363203 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erlon R. Cruz proposed openstack/cinder: NFS snapshots https://review.openstack.org/147186 | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick: Change warning to info logging for connected volume rescans https://review.openstack.org/367550 | 19:52 |
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| cFouts | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358789/ Would appreciate a core review on this patch. Thanks | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: RBD: Implement v2.1 replication https://review.openstack.org/333565 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove sleep mocks in RBD unit tests https://review.openstack.org/367601 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Include OPTIONAL_FIELDS in VolumeType OVO class https://review.openstack.org/367602 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Have a default OPTIONAL_FIELDS for persistent OVOs https://review.openstack.org/367603 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Allow getting qos_specs in db.volume_type_get https://review.openstack.org/367604 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Allow attribute lazy loading in VolumeType OVO https://review.openstack.org/367605 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/cinder: Remove deprecated CONF.use_default_quota_class https://review.openstack.org/351355 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Clean create_snapshots_in_db method https://review.openstack.org/367615 | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: standardize release note page ordering https://review.openstack.org/367569 | 21:05 |
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| gouthamr | smcginnis/cinder bug team: was hoping we can get this bug targeted to RC1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1615451 the fix is currently in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366939/ | 21:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1615451 in Cinder "NetApp cDOT doesn't report replication_enabled as a pool level capability" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yogesh (ykshirsa) | 21:23 |
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| gouthamr | thank you smcginnis scottda :) | 21:30 |
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| scottda | Is our only Critical bug truly Critical? If so, it should at least have someone working on it.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1610395 | 21:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610395 in Cinder "RemoteFS is not working properly with privsep in os_brick 1.5.0" [Critical,New] | 21:33 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: ping ^^ | 21:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Pong | 21:34 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Do you know if that bug is still an issue? Or did you figure out what was going on there? | 21:36 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That is a fun one! | 21:37 |
| smcginnis | :) | 21:37 |
| jungleboyj | I did figure out what is up. The privsep-helper program can fail in the case that there is no default set for os-brick in cinder.conf or nova.conf. | 21:38 |
| jungleboyj | If doesn't normally fail, but will if you are running in a venv where the defaults don't work. | 21:38 |
| hemna | wasn't that due to the older privsep and rootwrap not having the hard coded privsep helper ? | 21:38 |
| jungleboyj | There is not exception handling around the popen they are doing. | 21:39 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Doesn't make a difference. Still fails in the venv. | 21:39 |
| jungleboyj | Regardless, I need to push up a patch that reports with privsep-helper fails. | 21:39 |
| hemna | the default helper is hard coded into rootwrap now though | 21:39 |
| jungleboyj | Right now it just silently fails and we have no idea why commands that os-brick was trying failed. | 21:40 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: So still being worked on, but probably not a Critical bug, right? | 21:40 |
| jungleboyj | Right, we can take critical off it. | 21:40 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Cool, thanks. | 21:40 |
| jungleboyj | I have been firefighting here all week. | 21:40 |
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| jungleboyj | I want to play with it tomorrow and maybe get something out there. | 21:41 |
| * smcginnis images jungleboyj in big boots and a yellow jacket | 21:41 | |
| hemna | jungleboyj, did you try 1.6.x ? | 21:41 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Easy there big guy. | 21:41 |
| smcginnis | :) | 21:41 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: I can give that a try as well. | 21:41 |
| hemna | also what version of rootwrap ? | 21:42 |
| jungleboyj | I think we will still see issues though. | 21:42 |
| jungleboyj | It was with the latest, 5.0.1 I think? | 21:42 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, fwiw https://github.com/openstack/oslo.rootwrap/commit/37c2a041d33f0fdce7ce2832398c1f60f3ee8703 | 21:42 |
| hemna | that should be in 5.1.0 | 21:43 |
| jungleboyj | Sorry, 5.1.0 | 21:43 |
| hemna | which was released on 8/10 | 21:44 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: I think we still have issues because our privsep-helper is in a venv and not at a default path. | 21:45 |
| jungleboyj | We have to set it for os-brick or we fail unable to find the privsep-helper binary. The exception is uncaught so it ends up looking like os-brick puked for no reason. | 21:46 |
| hemna | ok so reading the bug it looks like it was using rootwrap 5.0.0 | 21:46 |
| hemna | I don't think rootwrap had the hard coded helper default then | 21:46 |
| hemna | which would cause privsep-helper to not start | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Eqlx: Ignore missing snapshot on delete https://review.openstack.org/367043 | 21:47 |
| hemna | so the venv bin dir wasn't/isn't in the PATH ? | 21:47 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Ok. No, which is a whole other issue. | 21:47 |
| jungleboyj | I will verify the library levels when I play with this tomorrow. | 21:48 |
| hemna | ok I was wrong 5.0.0 had the privsep-helper default set | 21:48 |
| hemna | hrmm | 21:48 |
| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.rootwrap/commits/5.0.0 | 21:49 |
| hemna | at least according to that tag | 21:49 |
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| hemna | and why is it only nfs failing | 21:50 |
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| hemna | iscsi worked fine | 21:50 |
| jungleboyj | I don't think it is just NFS, unless it is because NFS has to use mount as root. I think it is just NFS failing in the venv we have set up. :-) | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup Newton release notes. https://review.openstack.org/367647 | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Cleanup Newton release notes https://review.openstack.org/367647 | 21:53 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, so is this a tox run? | 21:53 |
| hemna | or you have a venv setup to run c-vol ? | 21:53 |
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| jungleboyj | We have venvs set up for each of our services so that we can reinstall one without it impacting the libraries for another component. | 21:54 |
| jungleboyj | At least, that is how I understand it. One for Nova, one for Cinder, etc. | 21:54 |
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| hemna | damn, nothing like making things hard | 21:57 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. | 21:57 |
| hemna | so I presume the privsep-helper should be in the venv bin path | 21:58 |
| hemna | which when activated should also get included in the PATH | 21:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Return all paths https://review.openstack.org/365129 | 22:01 |
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| hemna | jungleboyj, if you need help testing this I can help | 22:04 |
| hemna | I think I remember setting up a vm with devstack configured for nfs and I didn't run into this | 22:05 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: I will let you know. You don't see it with devstack unfortunately. Devstack is configured properly. | 22:06 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, that gives me an idea for testing this though. | 22:06 |
| hemna | I think that as long as the privsep-bin is in the PATH, then you should be ok due to the hard coded privsep-helper added into rootwrap | 22:06 |
| hemna | err privsep-helper bin | 22:07 |
| jungleboyj | Right. | 22:07 |
| jungleboyj | Anyway, the gym is calling my name at the moment. :-) | 22:08 |
| hemna | ok, ping me tomorrow if you need any help | 22:08 |
| jungleboyj | Will do. Thanks man! | 22:08 |
| patrickeast | anyone seeing issues with c-bak on ubuntu 16.04? i'm getting some ci jobs for xenial running and am seeing somewhat consistent problems with them like http://52.8.17.232/PureISCSIDriver-tempest-dsvm-xenial-aio/3/logs/screen-c-bak.txt.gz?#_2016-09-08_19_49_18_204 | 22:09 |
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| patrickeast | not sure yet if just some config difference between trusty and xenial or actual issue | 22:10 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Haven't seen that one. Yet. | 22:10 |
| hemna | I don't think we are using xenial yet here | 22:10 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Oh yeah, I'm still running Trusty for most things. | 22:10 |
| patrickeast | yea i think for the gate things are on their way to moving to the new one, i'm assuming with N we'll see deployments on it :( | 22:11 |
| * patrickeast grumbles about new things breaking stuff | 22:11 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder: Cleanup Newton release notes https://review.openstack.org/367647 | 23:34 |
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