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| openstackgerrit | Nate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Added more options while uploading volume as image https://review.openstack.org/230617 | 03:21 |
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| swamireddy | is the current Cinder supports to place backups on object storage (like swift)? | 07:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races on extend and volume_upload_image https://review.openstack.org/216378 | 11:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Move get_by_id to CinderObject https://review.openstack.org/218012 | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove API races from migrate and retype https://review.openstack.org/231937 | 11:51 |
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| kevincarr1991 | anyone else having issues attaching volumes to instances in kilo? | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Do not merge: Debugging notification issues in tests https://review.openstack.org/231122 | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add note for broken cinderclient versions 1.2.? https://review.openstack.org/232006 | 13:51 |
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| scottda | Does anyone know if we have to manually update the release notes for the cinderclient in python-cinderclient/doc/source/index.rst? | 14:07 |
| scottda | Or are they automatically generated? | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Good question. | 14:07 |
| scottda | It looks like it only goes up to version 1.3.0 | 14:07 |
| scottda | and we are on 1.4.0 | 14:07 |
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| scottda | jgriffith: thingee Do you know ? ^^^ | 14:08 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: My guess - since it only has 1.3.0 - is it's a manual process. | 14:09 |
| jgriffith | scottda: yes, I always did that in th epast | 14:09 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: smcginnis ie "it's manual" | 14:09 |
| scottda | thanks | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port test_srb to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232002 | 14:10 |
| jgriffith | scottda: smcginnis By the way, you can see where those commits stopped at 1.3.0 here: https://github.com/openstack/python-cinderclient/commits/master/doc/source/index.rst | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | Just July. That's not so bad. | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | Not great, just at least it wasn't over a year ago. ;) | 14:12 |
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| scottda | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1503705 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503705 in python-cinderclient "doc/source/index.rst needs versions past 1.3.0" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
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| scottda | You want to do that ^^ smcginnis ? Else I will. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Are you planning on updating that? I can otherwise. Just don't want us both doing it. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I can get it. | 14:14 |
| scottda | cool | 14:14 |
| perci | hi everyone..my stack.sh stops at "/usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/cinder-volume --config-file /etc/cinder/cinder.conf" with a 401 Unathorized..someone please help why | 14:14 |
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| scottda | I also proposed a bug/patch to tag the 1.2.? versions as broken due to version discovery...It's just above this conversation in the scrollback. | 14:15 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Saw that, I'll take a look. | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: WIP - 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged) https://review.openstack.org/231245 | 14:17 |
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| ntpttr | Hey everyone, I'm working on a patch that will add a few flags ('is_public' and 'protected') to the upload-volume-to-image functionality, and I've been running into some strange results from the tempest-dsvm-full-ceph tests. Basically it seems to be expecting the type of 'is_public' to be a String and the type of 'protected' to be a Boolen, but I can't figure out where in the code these definitions are being made. Here is the error I | 14:22 |
| ntpttr | It's been delayed until after the Liberty release because it involves changes to the cinder client, I'm just trying to make sure it's ready by then. | 14:23 |
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| jbernard | ntpttr: which patch? | 14:34 |
| ntpttr | jbernard: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230617/7 | 14:34 |
| swamireddy | is the current Cinder supports to place backups on object storage (like swift)? | 14:35 |
| jbernard | x | 14:35 |
| ntpttr | jbernard: Patchset 7 passed the test, but only because I took out the lines converting is_public from string to bool - wheras protected has to be converted or it will fail | 14:36 |
| tbarron | swamireddy: swift backup is the default | 14:36 |
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| jbernard | ntpttr: do you have a link to the failures? | 14:37 |
| swamireddy | tbarron: Oh, Thanks...just to clarify - all backups stored in the swfit object storage? if yes, then we can do same if I use the ceph as storage backend, then the backups also stored in the ceph object storaga? | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Congratulations! | 14:38 |
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| tbarron | swamireddy: the type of backend or backends you use for volume service is independent of the storage repository you use for backup | 14:40 |
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| tbarron | swamireddy: so yes, you can use swift backup service for ceph-backed volumes, nfs-backed volumes, whatever. | 14:41 |
| tbarron | swamireddy: there may be optimizations implemented when the volume service backend and backup service are the same | 14:41 |
| ntpttr | jbernard: I don't think so, when I uploaded the new patch the links were updated. http://paste.openstack.org/show/475547/ is a paste of the traceback when it failed | 14:42 |
| scottda | jgriffith: I appreciate your info on the entire cinderclient release branch situation yesterday, but I still think it's a bit confusing... | 14:42 |
| scottda | since we have both versions and a release branch. | 14:42 |
| jgriffith | scottda: I don't disagree with you :) | 14:42 |
| tbarron | swamireddy: but one motivation for backup is DR where one may explicitly want independence of the services for volume and backup | 14:42 |
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| scottda | Is this something that should be revisited? Or is it openstack standard practice? | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | scottda: I think anything can be revisited :) | 14:43 |
| scottda | I guess I'd rather see a version associated with a release than a branch. | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | scottda: not sure I follow what you mean | 14:43 |
| scottda | Is it ok with you if I put it on today's meeting agenda? I think you'd be the best person to give history and details. | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | scottda: sure... would be nice if thingee was around to help out with things | 14:44 |
| scottda | I mean that if we are releasing kilo for cinder, what cinderclient should one use? do we say "use version 1.3.0" or use stable/kilo... | 14:44 |
| jgriffith | scottda: oh... yeah... go tya | 14:44 |
| jgriffith | got ya | 14:44 |
| jbernard | ntpttr: i can debug this at some point, but im not sure i can get to it today | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | scottda: so the only trick IMO on all of this was the way we do pypi and how things work there | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | scottda: so the branch/tag IIRC was to indicate "this is the version I tagged for the release" | 14:45 |
| jgriffith | scottda: even if you go back and update the github repo, the problem is we're in a world of pypi libraries | 14:46 |
| ntpttr | jbernard: No problem, like I said its been delayed until after the L release so there's no rush. Thank you for your help | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | scottda: you can't go back and update that very easily AFAIK | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | scottda: so then you end up with a weird inconsistency... know what i mean? | 14:46 |
| scottda | yeah, there may not be a better way. | 14:46 |
| jgriffith | scottda: I think folks like eharney and zigo would have valuable input here as well as package maintainers | 14:47 |
| scottda | I'm wondering what other deployers do. Ship by version or by release branch | 14:47 |
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| scottda | hehe..my thoughts exactly. | 14:47 |
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| eharney | as far as what versions of the client to release when? | 14:48 |
| jgriffith | eharney: scottda would like to make fixes to the released version | 14:48 |
| jgriffith | eharney: so like fix some things in 1.3.0 | 14:48 |
| jgriffith | scottda: is that at least *kinda* accurate? | 14:49 |
| eharney | well, we only recently (for some value of recently) even added branches to the client right? | 14:49 |
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| jbernard | you'll need to call it 1.3.1, to make it easy for zigo | 14:49 |
| jgriffith | eharney: correct | 14:49 |
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| zigo | jgriffith: Sorry, 1.3.1 for what artifact? | 14:49 |
| jgriffith | lol... zigo no.. that was an example | 14:49 |
| scottda | eharney: I'm also wondering whether you ship a cinder version (i.e. kilo) with a specific cinderclient version (i.e. 1.3.0) or with stable/kilo version of cinderclient? | 14:49 |
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| jgriffith | zigo: but it would be for cinderclient | 14:50 |
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| scottda | I think it's probably because we are doing something weird to package the client, and are confused by the whole stable branch thing. | 14:50 |
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| zigo | jgriffith: 1.3.1 wouldn't work for Kilo, as it depends on fixtures 1.3.1 | 14:51 |
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| eharney | scottda: sitting here thinking about it, i suspect it's not just you | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Update release notes for 1.3.1 and 1.4.0 releases https://review.openstack.org/232048 | 14:52 |
| eharney | because i'm not sure exactly what our plans are for stable branch client updates | 14:52 |
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| scottda | Yeah, and since there were issues during kilo with the client (version discovery broken) there also ended up being kilo server features that are not supported for the client on stable/kilo branch | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Do I remember right that stable branches in the client are only created as a kind of checkpoint? | 14:53 |
| eharney | scottda: in the past the model was more "just add <x> to HEAD and since compatibility is guaranteed, people can update to the new release as needed" | 14:53 |
| scottda | so kilo client doesn't support incremental backup, for instance | 14:53 |
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| eharney | but, the liberty client is supposed to work 100% with kilo server | 14:54 |
| eharney | so backporting functionality seems like it would need some real justification | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: correct, that was my understanding | 14:54 |
| zigo | BTW, any updates on having a correct generator for cinder.conf.sample in Liberty? | 14:54 |
| scottda | yes, but if we ship kilo server with liberty client, the client will have features (I think) that are not supported on the server. | 14:54 |
| zigo | Sorry to insist about it ... | 14:54 |
| eharney | scottda: yeah, i guess that's true | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | zigo: I still think we're missing something there. | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: that's what spurred this conversation, yesterday scottda mentioned he'd like to backport some things to client; which we have never really done anything like that | 14:55 |
| scottda | so it's confusing for the user, and QA is currently bombarding me with bugs. | 14:55 |
| zigo | smcginnis: I thought the plan was to include opts.py in git ... | 14:55 |
| smcginnis | zigo: Because the sample file was never meant to be a working default config, as far as I know. | 14:55 |
| jgriffith | that's always been why back compat in the client is SOOO important | 14:55 |
| zigo | smcginnis: That's one thing, but that, as often, I can figure it out and patch it after generation. | 14:55 |
| jgriffith | zigo: :) | 14:55 |
| eharney | smcginnis: i think the discussion was more around being able to generate a default config at all, not so much having it work for the service | 14:55 |
| scottda | yes, we've documented the workaround "update your client" | 14:55 |
| scottda | But we don't want to ship the newer client. | 14:56 |
| zigo | smcginnis: The important bit for me, is that my resulting config file misses *many* options, and is 800 lines instead of 3000. | 14:56 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith, eharney: Seems to me this branching just causes confusion, and we should move ahead with backward compatible fixes on HEAD. | 14:56 |
| jgriffith | scottda: yeah, I hear ya... was just recapping for those that weren't present yesterday :) | 14:56 |
| scottda | and thanks for that. | 14:56 |
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| zigo | Could someone provides me with a opts.py? | 14:56 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Well, zigo has the expectation that it will just work out of the box for an LVM backend. | 14:56 |
| eharney | well, i assume there was some reason for introducing the stable branches in the first place (which i don't know off the top of my head) | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove duplicate code in functional tests https://review.openstack.org/219772 | 14:56 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: that's what i think but honestly I defer to folks like scottda and eharney and zigo here because theyr'e they ones that have to package and distribute this stuff :) | 14:56 |
| zigo | smcginnis: Not really, that, I can make it so only in Debian. | 14:57 |
| zigo | I just want *all* of the options as per what's done if using tox and venv. | 14:57 |
| zigo | That's currently not the case in Debian. | 14:57 |
| zigo | Even the enabled_backends directive is missing... | 14:57 |
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| zigo | I just went further, and noticed that some of the cinder-backup options are also missing. | 14:58 |
| eharney | right, this is the "i need to be able to generate a sample conf without downloading a bunch of deps from pip at generation time" thing | 14:58 |
| eharney | (unless it's broken for some other reason i don't know about) | 14:58 |
| smcginnis | zigo: So what you really want as a packager is a cinder.conf file that works out of the box for LVM, right? | 14:58 |
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| zigo | s/generate a sample conf/generate a CORRECT sample conf/ | 14:58 |
| smcginnis | zigo: But you also want a reference file included with all of the possible options. | 14:59 |
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| jgriffith | I'm not convinced this whole autogen opts.py isn't just making life harder than we should | 14:59 |
| zigo | smcginnis: Again, no. I can (and already do) add specific options for [lvm] myself in debian/rules, that's not the issue. | 14:59 |
| jgriffith | but I probably shouldn't bring that up again | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: :) | 14:59 |
| zigo | The issue is that my file is 800 lines instead of the normally 3000 ... | 14:59 |
| eharney | jgriffith: i think i haven't wrapped my head around it enough to figure that part out yet | 14:59 |
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| diablo_rojo | zigo: smcginnis eharney Jay and I are working on what we had discussed on Friday and we should have a patch up soon. It will add opts.py to the tree and there will be a check to make sure it is up to date in pep8. | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | zigo: And this isn't enough? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/ | 15:00 |
| jgriffith | eharney: Yeah, I objected and I think it was taken wrong. I did say I would let it go, so I should probably do that and not speak of it again. But i have a number of concerns | 15:00 |
| jgriffith | sighhh | 15:01 |
| jgriffith | diablo_rojo: wait... so after all this you're going back to the original suggestion? | 15:01 |
| diablo_rojo | jgriffith: No. | 15:01 |
| eharney | diablo_rojo: oh yeah, i'm curious about that part | 15:01 |
| jgriffith | diablo_rojo: Ok... you said "It will add opts.py to the tree" | 15:02 |
| jgriffith | diablo_rojo: so which is it? | 15:02 |
| diablo_rojo | jgriffith: eharney. It is still being dynmaically generated. It just won't be removed so that deployers can get at it if they need it. | 15:02 |
| jgriffith | diablo_rojo:sighhhhh | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: The key part being utilizing the auto-gen to enforce that a static file isn't missing any of the options. | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | I guess sort of an uber-checker. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | I think we need to stew on this a little. | 15:03 |
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| smcginnis | My main thing is the drawback with the static file is things get missed. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | The drawback with the generated file is folks want to use it without being able to generate it. | 15:03 |
| eharney | i think the change diablo_rojo is talking about sounds useful, but i'll need to look over it and understand it to make sure it does what i think it does | 15:03 |
| zigo | smcginnis: Do you seriously want me to manually copy/past these options in a .conf, or you do have pitty for me? :D | 15:03 |
| zigo | diablo_rojo: Thanks ! | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | So I think we need to find some happy middle ground to protect us from missing updating things, but not put an extra burden on consumers. | 15:04 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Correct. So it will be added to tree, but still generated dynamically. | 15:04 |
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| eharney | i'm trying to remember what was so bad about forcing the sample to always be correct in-tree | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | zigo: I guess I have no clue what you really need. You said your making a usable [lvm] config to package. The rest of the opts would be for reference then. Why would you need to copy/paste anything? | 15:05 |
| jgriffith | eharney: Infra hated it | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Folks missed updating it, I believe. | 15:05 |
| jgriffith | eharney: gate failures were kinda common | 15:05 |
| zigo | smcginnis: Sorry, just a joke, never mind if you didn't get it... | 15:05 |
| eharney | smcginnis: there was a gate check, so you couldn't miss updating it... | 15:05 |
| diablo_rojo | cause people didn't always remember to update the file | 15:05 |
| thingee | jgriffith, scottda sorry, yes it only goes to 1.3.0 in liberty. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | zigo: :) | 15:05 |
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| zigo | smcginnis: The plan from diablo_rojo to have the opts.py in tree is fine for me. | 15:05 |
| thingee | scottda, jgriffith: post-second-wedding-with-family last weekend :) | 15:06 |
| zigo | I just hope it lands quickly, because I'd like to functional test it with tempest. | 15:06 |
| thingee | scottda, jgriffith: not disappearing | 15:06 |
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| diablo_rojo | thingee: Can has pictures? :) | 15:06 |
| zigo | (I mean... before the final release) | 15:06 |
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| diablo_rojo | zigo: Working on the last few bugs, should have the patch out soon. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | zigo: Well... hate to tell you, but that's not going to be in Liberty. :/ | 15:07 |
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| e0ne | does anybody have issue "RuntimeError: Could not bind to 0.0.0.0:8776 after trying for 30 seconds" with cinder-api & devstack today? | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Have you been testing with the Apache stuff? | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I messed myself up with that before. | 15:10 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 | 15:11 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks! | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: ;) | 15:11 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I'll file a bug to devstack | 15:11 |
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| hemna | doink | 15:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: WIP - 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged) https://review.openstack.org/231245 | 15:14 |
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| e0ne | hemna: "doink"? | 15:16 |
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| e0ne | hemna: nevermind, urbandictionary works:) | 15:17 |
| thingee | jgriffith, scottda: also just woke up :) | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Hah, not sure if the urban dictionary definition is what hemna was meaning. | 15:18 |
| * smcginnis hopes not | 15:18 | |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: ooops | 15:18 |
| hemna | lol | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Maybe it is. ;) | 15:19 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I've found two defenitions (now): from the urbandictionary and the clown's name | 15:19 |
| hemna | http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/files/2015/06/doink1.jpg | 15:19 |
| e0ne | :) | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Evil | 15:19 |
| hemna | :) | 15:19 |
| e0ne | thanks! | 15:19 |
| * jgriffith is certain to have nightmares about clowns tonight | 15:20 | |
| e0ne | hemna: btw, I've got working poc with rbd attachement. | 15:20 |
| hemna | e0ne, coolio | 15:20 |
| e0ne | hemna: I'm going to do cleanup code+tests+some docs this week | 15:21 |
| e0ne | hemna: and I'll could name it not PoC but 'a very feature-limited client' | 15:21 |
| thingee | diablo_rojo: they're on facebook somewhere... | 15:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Going to look now. :-) Yay! | 15:22 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, hemna: now, I feel uncomfortable for thet reference on the urbandictionary:( | 15:23 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: LMAO | 15:24 |
| hemna | hehe | 15:24 |
| e0ne | s/I feel/I'm feeling | 15:24 |
| jgriffith | awkward!!! | 15:24 |
| eharney | has anyone looked at issues with our pylint job recently? | 15:24 |
| diablo_rojo | thingee: I can't see them :/ | 15:24 |
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| e0ne | eharney: nobody cares about non-voting jobs:( | 15:24 |
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| jgriffith | eharney: it's on my list, but I'm still trying to figure out the stupid zone-manager crazy biz | 15:26 |
| eharney | jgriffith: there are some odd failures i've seen a couple of times where it fails because git can't auto-detect an email address | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | *Gasp* jgriffith's talking fibre channel stuff. | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | :P | 15:26 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: LOL | 15:26 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: only because the unit tests fail on my machine every time | 15:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/os-brick: Check RBDConnector.disconnect_volume device_info argument https://review.openstack.org/232062 | 15:35 |
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| hemna | whoa | 15:36 |
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| e0ne | hemna: I will post one more patch to brick. please, put your -2 you you think that they are not needed. | 15:39 |
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| e0ne | hemna: it's just some refactoring to make it more usable outside | 15:40 |
| hemna | ? | 15:40 |
| guitarzan | are you asking for a -2? :) | 15:41 |
| guitarzan | that is unprecedented | 15:41 |
| hemna | :P | 15:41 |
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| e0ne | guitarzan: because I'm try use os-brick and I'm trying to do my life easier. not sure that it's good for other lib users | 15:42 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: DO you know - have we done release notes in os-brick like we do for cinder and python-cinderclient? | 15:43 |
| e0ne | guitarzan: it's a libraty, so we need to be care and don't break anything | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Guess I answered my own question: https://github.com/openstack/os-brick/blob/master/doc/source/index.rst | 15:44 |
| hemna | smcginnis, not that I know of. | 15:44 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Kinda seems like we should? What do you think? | 15:44 |
| hemna | smcginnis, that's all based on the docs that I wrote when it was first built | 15:44 |
| guitarzan | e0ne: I'm just teasing :) | 15:44 |
| hemna | smcginnis, yah might be a good idea | 15:44 |
| e0ne | guitarzan: :) | 15:44 |
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| hemna | at this point it's only been about bug fixes and small features | 15:45 |
| guitarzan | besides, someone using a library might have a pretty good opinion abou tit | 15:45 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, but if this one lands https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199764/ it would be good to get that in some sort of release notes | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Add new Connector APIs for path validation https://review.openstack.org/199764 | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/os-brick: Introduce SupportedProtocols class with constnants https://review.openstack.org/232064 | 15:46 |
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| hemna | e0ne, I think that will break Nova immediately | 15:46 |
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| hemna | that seems unnecessary to me | 15:48 |
| e0ne | hemna: i didn' find that constants usage in nova | 15:48 |
| hemna | smcginnis, for some reason it looks like this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231740/, didn't update the os-brick bug in launchpad | 15:50 |
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| hemna | dunno why | 15:50 |
| hemna | I had to just manually update the bug to in progress and paste the url for the review | 15:50 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, fwiw, I'm trying to update stay on top of https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-brick | 15:51 |
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| hemna | anyone that wants to help w/ os-brick bugs, that'd be cool | 15:52 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: Yeah... I"m going to need to look at that again | 15:53 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: I've noticed that happen a few times. No idea why the linkage breaks. | 15:54 |
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| hemna | maybe a glitch in the gerrit event stream at the time? | 15:57 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: meeting? | 16:00 |
| e0ne | meeting! | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Patience! :) | 16:00 |
| * scottda takes a few deep breaths | 16:00 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove duplicate code in functional tests https://review.openstack.org/219772 | 16:07 |
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| hemna | geguileo, ping | 16:36 |
| geguileo | hemna: pong | 16:36 |
| hemna | geguileo, ok cool, just wanted to make sure you are around. i'm setting up the google hangout | 16:37 |
| geguileo | hemna: Great! | 16:37 |
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| krotscheck | wilson1: Can you please respond to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219489/ ? The recheck you asked for passed. | 16:44 |
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| swamireddy | tbarron: Thanks for clarification --ATM I have not worried about optimizations...if I can backup of cinder volumes (ceph based) in to a object stroage (which is ceph based)? | 16:49 |
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| tbarron | you can use ceph backup service instead of swift, or nfs, or posix, etc. if that is what you are asking? | 16:50 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: yo | 16:53 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, dle | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | haha | 16:53 |
| swamireddy | tbarron: sure, let me try this and confirm... Thank you | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: so what was it that you were getting at? | 16:54 |
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| hemna | ok guys, see if this works. | 16:54 |
| hemna | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcOyio2AXdLlj9bOjTTZjaYSWT_Krygcib-IP3ajEMlAZmp4A?hl=en&authuser=0 | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: or was there something i should walk through on how things work? | 16:54 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, I remember why I made replication_mode and replication_sync_period config values now :p ... currently, the same backend does not support both modes at the same time. I put those options in the config so multiple volumes types against the same backend could not have different modes. I am exploring extra_specs implementations right now, though. | 16:55 |
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| Swanson | jgriffith, I think I need to take a closer look at some things first. Part of this is that we have something that would do some of this magically. Once I know the internal pieces I think I'll have more questions. | 16:55 |
| hemna | smcginnis, so I think this is recording fwiw | 16:55 |
| hemna | we'll see | 16:55 |
| hemna | geguileo, ^^ | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Awesome! | 16:56 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, but a basic question first. Nova can sort out that a failover occurs or is this all hands on? | 16:57 |
| scottda | Here's an etherpad we could use: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-active-active-vol-service-issues | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Doh, I apparently need to do some work to get hangouts re-installed. :-( | 16:58 |
| hemna | doh | 16:58 |
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| hemna | we are still waiting for folks to join | 16:59 |
| hemna | anyone that wants to participate click the above url | 16:59 |
| scottda | dulek: Hangout for locks/HA ^^^ | 17:00 |
| eharney | i'm trying to join | 17:00 |
| eharney | technical difficulties | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Correct subject of clone-image-in-glance-cinder-backend https://review.openstack.org/232111 | 17:00 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: so the idea is... | 17:02 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: in the case of managed first; | 17:02 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: if a fail over takes place, the driver returns an update for the model, that model update will change the host setting for the volume | 17:03 |
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| Swanson | Dear god the blimpie specialsub dressing looks to be palmolive | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: so what happens then is that the cinder requests will then auto-reroute to the secondary backend automatically | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | don't eat it!! | 17:04 |
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| geguileo | hemna: I have added the compare and swap patches to the Etherpad, lines 115 to 127 | 17:05 |
| hemna | geguileo, thanks | 17:05 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, thats cinder requests. I'm confused as to how the overall system knows where things went. | 17:06 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, I update the database to indicate it is on a different backend. | 17:06 |
| hemna | mriedem, if you want to join as well | 17:06 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, What happens at that point is the operators issue or is there more to it? | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | hemna: join what? | 17:09 |
| mriedem | oh | 17:09 |
| mriedem | my face is full of food, so i'll decline | 17:09 |
| hemna | mriedem, our google hangout. we are talking a bit about nova -> cinder w.r.t. cinder HA | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | oh, i'll join after i'm done eating | 17:10 |
| geguileo | dulek: Weren't you going to join the meeting? | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Yuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Remove duplicate code in functional tests https://review.openstack.org/219772 | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Deepti Ramakrishna proposed openstack/cinder: Remove cinder's RequestBodySizeLimiter https://review.openstack.org/231862 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Do not merge: Debugging notification issues in tests https://review.openstack.org/231122 | 17:13 |
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| apoorvad | Can we replicate attached volumes with repl v2? | 17:15 |
| Swanson | apoorvad, I assumed we were replicating volumes regardless of whether they were attached or not. Was this not true in v1? | 17:16 |
| apoorvad | Swanson: I wasn't sure, wanted to check | 17:17 |
| Swanson | apoorvad, I'm only assuming so jgriffith needs to confirm. | 17:18 |
| hogepodge | thingee: I pulled that entire section out. want me to reinstate it with that test? | 17:20 |
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| patrickeast | apoorvad: Swanson: yea iirc you can replicate attached ones (I don't remember any volume status checks, just replication status checks in the api's), but the failover on attached gets kind of funky since it would need to be reattached again to the instance | 17:21 |
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| apoorvad | patrickeast: cool. I was thinking about the failover scenario of attached volume. thanks! | 17:25 |
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| Swanson | patrickeast, apoorvad yeah, that's pretty where all my questions are. | 17:26 |
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| jgriffith | apoorvad: yes | 17:30 |
| thingee | hogepodge: if the negative test would help | 17:30 |
| thingee | sure | 17:31 |
| thingee | hogepodge: perhaps I can propose the non-negative test for you in tempest :) | 17:31 |
| jgriffith | apoorvad: replication is independent of if the volume is attached or not | 17:31 |
| thingee | hogepodge: can probably get to it this week. just preparing some other stuff atm for ttx | 17:31 |
| jgriffith | apoorvad: it doens't make much sense to only only replication on a non-attached volume :) | 17:31 |
| apoorvad | jgriffith: thanks for confirming :) | 17:32 |
| jgriffith | apoorvad: the key is that replication is enabled on the volume via the backend at create time | 17:32 |
| jgriffith | that's all | 17:32 |
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| hemna | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205834/ | 17:40 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Can you add the spec link to the review commit message? | 17:43 |
| hemna | smcginnis, heh, I just asked him to do that. he's on it. | 17:44 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I think we hit him from both directions. ;) | 17:44 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks hemna. | 17:47 |
| hemna | looks like the video did record to my acct. | 17:47 |
| hemna | maybe we could have a Cinder Youtube Account that the PTL 'owns' | 17:48 |
| hemna | for future versions of this? | 17:48 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Not a bad idea to have a general Cinder account. | 17:48 |
| hemna | if folks thinks that kind of thing was useful. | 17:48 |
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| hemna | we could use that account for our meetups as well | 17:49 |
| hemna | and then all the videos would be saved/public fwiw | 17:49 |
| hemna | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_iXpNcWDv8 | 17:49 |
| smcginnis | It would be nice to capture some of the meetups. Especially since a lot of folks can't attend real time. | 17:49 |
| smcginnis | I'll look into it. | 17:49 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, yah I think it'd be cool to have a video record of those | 17:50 |
| scottda | What about summit sessions? They aren't recorded ATM are they? | 17:52 |
| hemna | scottda, we could use the account for that as well | 17:52 |
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| scottda | OK. who's bring the video camera to Tokyo? | 17:53 |
| hemna | I'll bring mine with me | 17:54 |
| hemna | same one I used today | 17:54 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, ok posted the minutes about the meeting on the ML | 18:03 |
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| scottda | geguileo: I'm thinking we need a BP + Spec for the capturing all aspects of making c-vol Active-Active/HA ...do you have any such thing already? | 18:05 |
| geguileo | scottda: I believe there was a BP, let me look | 18:05 |
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| geguileo | scottda: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-volume-active-active-ha | 18:06 |
| scottda | There's one for using a DLM (Tooz), but I'm thinking this is a separate, different implementation using the DB *-ing states | 18:06 |
| scottda | But there might be something I've missed. | 18:06 |
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| geguileo | scottda: The BP is about cinder HA-A/A | 18:06 |
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| geguileo | scottda: So I don't know if we need different BPs | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed) https://review.openstack.org/231201 | 18:07 |
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| scottda | Well, it's coupled with a spec for DLM, which dulek has -1 WIP'ed because we decided to move towards the DB -ing states at the summer mid-cycle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202615/ | 18:09 |
| geguileo | scottda: It'd probably be a good idea to get a new BP then | 18:09 |
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| scottda | OK. I can do that, unless you want to? | 18:10 |
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| geguileo | Whatever you prefer | 18:11 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: ok, so what if I go back to a version of what you mentioned yesterday... | 18:12 |
| geguileo | I'll try to complete the spec I'm working on and try to create a general spec | 18:12 |
| smcginnis | +1 to new BP. Spec too. | 18:12 |
| scottda | OK, great | 18:12 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, such as? | 18:12 |
| geguileo | That will give an overwiew of the different specs that will follow | 18:12 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: in volume.api before issuing any replication cmds, I read the extra-specs and verify that "replication_enabled==True" | 18:12 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Do we put BP in "pending approval" to put them in your queue? | 18:12 |
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| scottda | The amount in Design state of "new" seems overwhelmingly large. | 18:14 |
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| aorourke | jgriffith, ah, that way nothing will be called if it is not True. With this I don't see the default replication_status as 'disabled' being an issue | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: correct | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: it's either that or yet another column on the db object: replication_capable | 18:15 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: seems kinda wasteful | 18:15 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, i don't think there is a need for another column. i think the issue can be solved by checking if the volume type is replication capable | 18:16 |
| ntpttr | eharney: I made the change for the keystone service_name in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228646/9, is there another name that they swift service name should be changed to in that file as well? It was left as just 'swift' currently. | 18:16 |
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| eharney | ntpttr: i'm not sure, but since it's already there, i wouldn't worry about it in that patch | 18:20 |
| ntpttr | eharney: Okay sounds good. Technically I think the only parameter used from the catalog info in this file is 'type', so it probably can't be breaking anything | 18:22 |
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| kevincarr1991 | Does anyone use nfs for their backend in openstack? | 18:23 |
| tbarron | kevincarr1991: I think I've answered this question from you in the affirmative half a dozen times now :-) | 18:24 |
| eharney | kevincarr1991: what kind of issue are you having? | 18:24 |
| kevincarr1991 | tbarron,eharney: sorry to keep bringing it up. I am able to use a nfs share to storage my instances and I am not trying have cinder use my nfs share. I am able to create volumes but when I try to attach them to instances I get permission errors | 18:25 |
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| eharney | kevincarr1991: which Cinder driver are you using? | 18:26 |
| kevincarr1991 | the NFSdriver | 18:26 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: the nfs dirver. volume_driver cinder.volume.drivers.nfs.NfsDriver | 18:27 |
| eharney | kevincarr1991: you get permission errors in the compute log? | 18:27 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: Yes i get the permission error in the compute log | 18:28 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I've been trying to go through them, but yeah, a lot more to get through. | 18:29 |
| smcginnis | scottda: You can assign the Approver to me or ping me with a link to get my attention. | 18:30 |
| eharney | kevincarr1991: can you put the error from the log at http://paste.openstack.org/ | 18:30 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: I only have a small portion of it, but I will replicate it when I get back to my lab | 18:32 |
| kevincarr1991 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/475646/ | 18:32 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney:http://paste.openstack.org/show/475646/ | 18:33 |
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| eharney | kevincarr1991: what platform is this on? | 18:33 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: I am running Kilo on centos 7 | 18:34 |
| hemna | netapp CI looks borked | 18:35 |
| eharney | kevincarr1991: what is the output of "getsebool virt_use_nfs" ? | 18:35 |
| apoorvad | hemna: so is Violin Memory CI | 18:36 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: I will have to check when I get to the lab. I should have an answer soon | 18:36 |
| apoorvad | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=cinder | 18:36 |
| akerr | hemna: ya looks like the FC CI is having issues | 18:36 |
| akerr | hemna: ameade is looking into it | 18:36 |
| hemna | ok coolio | 18:36 |
| akerr | zombie processes from a dead screen session :) | 18:37 |
| hemna | akerr, I just wanted to make sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216376/ wasn't going to break netapp | 18:37 |
| hemna | I did a recheck for netapp and it puked again :( | 18:37 |
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| akerr | hemna: it should be fine, our CI drivers are just a thing FCZM wrapper on the iSCSI logic and the iSCSI passed | 18:38 |
| akerr | er FC not CI | 18:38 |
| akerr | and thin not thing (can't type today) | 18:38 |
| hemna | funny thing is the output in the comment says "Build succeeded." then lists 3 failures | 18:38 |
| hemna | heh | 18:38 |
| akerr | hemna: i'm actually in process of porting the FC tests onto our main test system which is much more stable and works at scale as we speak :) | 18:40 |
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| dulek | geguileo, hemna: I'm sorry, I was unable to join, some urgent support on other project was needed from my side. That's a cool idea to upload the video, I'm listening to it now. :) | 18:49 |
| geguileo | dulek: Glad you are back :-) | 18:50 |
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| tbarron | yes, thanks for the video. I was on a customer call myself, sorting out DNS issues as it turned out :-) Am watching the video now. | 18:52 |
| dulek | geguileo: It would be helpful to be more assertive on assignments at work I guess… | 18:52 |
| geguileo | dulek: But then people would complain on being too assertive ;-) | 18:52 |
| dulek | geguileo: There certainly is a way to handle too much work in a correct way. | 18:55 |
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| geguileo | dulek: If you find it, please, please, please let me know | 18:55 |
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| dulek | geguileo: File locks expire when process dies, you were right. (29 minute of the recording) | 19:25 |
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| geguileo | dulek: That's the theory | 19:26 |
| geguileo | I looked that stuff when looking into Tooz as DLM for cinder | 19:26 |
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| dulek | geguileo: I've researched it down to kernel's fcntl implementation and can confirm that this is true. | 19:27 |
| geguileo | dulek: Yep, that's what I did back then | 19:28 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Oslo is using a library (I don't remember the name) | 19:28 |
| geguileo | And I looked into the code of that library | 19:28 |
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| geguileo | dulek: By the way, do you know how disabled services stop working on jobs in Cinder? | 19:30 |
| dulek | geguileo: ? Can you elaborate? | 19:30 |
| dulek | geguileo: You mean cinder service-disable? | 19:31 |
| geguileo | dulek: Yep | 19:31 |
| geguileo | dulek: I know it sets disabled on the DB | 19:31 |
| dulek | geguileo: Sit down then… ;) | 19:31 |
| geguileo | dulek: But I don't know how it disables the actual work from the host | 19:32 |
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| * dulek is trying to find the file… | 19:33 | |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: I am actually getting a different error this time. When I try to mount the nfs using vers=3 I get a rpc-statd.service error | 19:34 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: Will you be on irc tomorrow? | 19:34 |
| eharney | kevincarr1991: yes | 19:34 |
| dulek | geguileo: Okay, I cannot find it in Cinder. | 19:35 |
| dulek | geguileo: But it should be similar to how Nova's handling it: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/compute_filter.py | 19:35 |
| kevincarr1991 | eharney: OK I will try and get you the error file as soon as possible. | 19:35 |
| dulek | geguileo: So it means that you're only disabling it from scheduling. | 19:35 |
| dulek | geguileo: *And* you cannot disable a service other that c-vol. In Nova's disable works only for n-cpu. | 19:36 |
| geguileo | dulek: That's what I'm worrying about now | 19:36 |
| dulek | geguileo: Why? | 19:36 |
| geguileo | dulek: I don't think we are disabling the c-vols | 19:36 |
| * dulek is looking deeper into the code. | 19:37 | |
| dulek | geguileo: Okay, got it: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/scheduler/host_manager.py#L452 | 19:38 |
| dulek | geguileo: So Nova's passing all the hosts into scheduler. We're passing only enabled ones. | 19:38 |
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| ntpttr | smcginnis, eharney: sorry to bother you guys one more time, but would you mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228646/9 once more when you get a chance? I think I've ironed out the comments you made. Also please let me know if asking this on IRC isn't how we operate, I'm getting used to the open source workflow and don't want to be pushy or anything | 19:39 |
| geguileo | dulek: Yeah, but we don't disable c-vol | 19:39 |
| geguileo | dulek: That's what I'm worried | 19:39 |
| geguileo | dulek: We only disabled scheduled operations | 19:39 |
| geguileo | dulek: Direct operation will still work | 19:39 |
| dulek | geguileo: Oh… | 19:40 |
| geguileo | I don't think that is the meaning of "disabled" service | 19:40 |
| dulek | geguileo: So it's derived from Nova. | 19:40 |
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| dulek | geguileo: And there's the meaning of "disabled" is simply - no more VMs scheduled. | 19:41 |
| dulek | geguileo: But disabled n-cpu is still listening and you can for example live-migrate VMs from it. | 19:41 |
| geguileo | But I don't think it should have the same meaning in Cinder | 19:41 |
| geguileo | At least I wouldn't think that's a disabled service... | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | ntpttr: No problem, I should be able to get to it a little later. | 19:42 |
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| dulek | geguileo: Well, name is confusing… | 19:42 |
| dulek | geguileo: (Like in all the stuff inherited from Nova.) | 19:42 |
| geguileo | dulek: Ok, thanks | 19:43 |
| geguileo | dulek: I'll probably bring this up at some point | 19:43 |
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| geguileo | But not now since this makes my life easier XD | 19:43 |
| dulek | geguileo: There is an use case however. Certainly when running LVM - you disable a node and start migrating volumes from there. | 19:44 |
| geguileo | dulek: Sure, there are cases where it is really useful | 19:44 |
| geguileo | But the name... | 19:44 |
| dulek | geguileo: Now the problem is - should we change it or leave it consistent with Nova? | 19:45 |
| geguileo | dulek: I think we could leave it and just add a new option that is halt | 19:46 |
| geguileo | dulek: That will actually stop accepting requests | 19:46 |
| geguileo | But I'll have to sleep on that | 19:46 |
| dulek | geguileo: Aaaah. That | 19:46 |
| dulek | geguileo: I think this is impossible with current state of oslo.messaging. | 19:46 |
| dulek | geguileo: You cannot decide to stop to listen for requests. | 19:47 |
| geguileo | Service is not killed, but it stops listening/accepting requests | 19:47 |
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| geguileo | dulek: Well, first I have to think if it even makes sense | 19:47 |
| geguileo | Then I'll look if it's possible | 19:47 |
| geguileo | And if it's not and we want it | 19:47 |
| geguileo | I'll see if it can be implemented | 19:47 |
| dulek | geguileo: Seeing if there's a valid and requested use case for that would also help. :) | 19:48 |
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| geguileo | I agree | 19:48 |
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| geguileo | That's why I have to sleep on it and think if it makes sense | 19:48 |
| dulek | geguileo: Okay, I hope I've clarified a bit and not made it harder to understand with all this OpenStack-inheritance-history. | 19:50 |
| geguileo | dulek: You actually made it very clear, thanks :-) | 19:50 |
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| dulek | geguileo: np | 19:51 |
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| aorourke | jgriffith, are you available? | 20:00 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: what's up? | 20:04 |
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| aorourke | jgriffith, so I was just working with extra_spec related replication values...i don't really think that having target replication devices use extra specs will work the more i look at it. | 20:06 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: the target device shouldn't | 20:07 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, the target devices need to have their values in the config | 20:07 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: the config file sets up info like "what the device is" and "how the primary backend" gets to it | 20:07 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: yeah, agreed... not sure what target device info in extra-specs you're referring to? | 20:08 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, I made a comment on managed patch. i was just confused, though. just wanted to clarify | 20:08 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: oh... ok :) | 20:09 |
| jgriffith | I think | 20:09 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:09 |
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| aorourke | jgriffith, the only new config values I added for replication (outside of target device values) are replication_mode and replication_sync_period. Those need to be config values because the same backend does not support multiple modes at the same time. If we used extra_specs for this, an admin could create a sync and async volume type against the same backend, which would not be valid in our case. | 20:12 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: ok, fine | 20:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Move ssh_utils tests to test_ssh_utils https://review.openstack.org/229947 | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed) https://review.openstack.org/231201 | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Do not use disabled as default replication_status https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: WIP - 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged) https://review.openstack.org/231245 | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: jungleboyj Take a look at that and see if you think that works better | 20:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Sonia Ghanekar proposed openstack/cinder: Add multi-initiator extra-spec for Nimble driver https://review.openstack.org/229185 | 20:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Change os-brick to use ostestr https://review.openstack.org/231735 | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Do not use disabled as default replication_status https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Fix silent iSCSI login failures https://review.openstack.org/231740 | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Verify volume is replication capable https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 20:29 |
| jgriffith | Ok.. now I'm really done :) | 20:29 |
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| guitarzan | hemna already caught your pbd shenanigans! | 20:33 |
| hemna | :P | 20:33 |
| diablo_rojo | hemna: Good catch Walt :) | 20:33 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I was just noticing that. | 20:33 |
| jungleboyj | Also a typo in the commit message. Now I don't feel so bad about it. :-) | 20:34 |
| hemna | grammar/spelling nazis! | 20:36 |
| diablo_rojo | hemna: We are just keeping Cinder presentable :) Someone has to ;) | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | That's supposed to be there yes | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | I thought it would be awesome if we paused any time the command was sent | 20:36 |
| jgriffith | and required the admin to continue on | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | :) | 20:37 |
| hemna | help prevent race conditions | 20:37 |
| jgriffith | hemna: EXACTLY! | 20:37 |
| hemna | who needs locks and ing checks anyway. lame | 20:37 |
| jungleboyj | +2/+A Brilliant! | 20:37 |
| * jungleboyj will get a person to sit and watching the system all the time to keep things running. | 20:38 | |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Can you hit continue for me please? | 20:38 |
| tbarron | diablo_rojo: can you hit jungleboyj for me please? | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Verify volume is replication capable https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 20:39 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: She just did about 10 minutes ago, hard enough to leave a bruise which is saying a lot on me. | 20:39 |
| jgriffith | BTW.. you guys missed one :) | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | tbarron: I already did a few minutes ago, but I can do it again if you like.. | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: tbarron :D | 20:40 |
| tbarron | diablo_rojo: yes please, same spot (accuracy and reliability) | 20:40 |
| diablo_rojo | tbarron: Done :) | 20:40 |
| tbarron | diablo_rojo: ty | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: She missed slightly ... Got a nice pressure point though. | 20:40 |
| diablo_rojo | tbarron: I'll do better next time Tom. I promist. | 20:41 |
| diablo_rojo | *promise | 20:41 |
| tbarron | diablo_rojo: sorry, try again. quality control is essential. | 20:41 |
| tbarron | you guys can spell but you can't hit accurately. | 20:41 |
| diablo_rojo | tbarron: Okay okay.. | 20:41 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: That time was better. | 20:42 |
| jungleboyj | And yes, she really is hitting me. | 20:42 |
| tbarron | good to hear that IBM is making progress! | 20:42 |
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| diablo_rojo | tbarron: He likes it though.. been reading to much 50 shades of Grey. | 20:42 |
| * jungleboyj pleads the 5th. | 20:43 | |
| * tbarron thinks it is time to move along now. | 20:43 | |
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| hemna | jgriffith, question for you on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231758 | 20:44 |
| jgriffith | hemna: sure | 20:45 |
| hemna | how does initialize_connection work now that you removed it from the driver? the parent class is a pass | 20:45 |
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| hemna | same w/ create_export, etc | 20:46 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: it picks up the base iscsi class | 20:46 |
| jgriffith | just a sec... on the phone but I'll check with ya in a minute | 20:46 |
| hemna | oh driver.ISCSIDriver ? | 20:47 |
| jgriffith | hemna: yeah | 20:48 |
| hemna | ok I'm just trying to trace down the hierarchy. CI passed, so it must work :P | 20:50 |
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| hemna | oh ok nm | 20:52 |
| hemna | it's the __getattr__ magic | 20:52 |
| hemna | which is only called when the request for the attribute doesn't exist. | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Remove extra register_opts() calls in netapp eseries https://review.openstack.org/231664 | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/cinder: Downstream Fix for Genconfig https://review.openstack.org/232205 | 20:53 |
| jgriffith | hemna: :) | 20:54 |
| hemna | learn something new every day. | 20:55 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: ping | 20:56 |
| aorourke | jgriffith hey | 20:56 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: I can change that, but... I will say this: | 20:56 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: replication_enabled, needs to be either True or False | 20:57 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: not "ish" | 20:57 |
| jgriffith | if you do not use True or False it fails scheduler as well | 20:57 |
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| jgriffith | but certainly is good to be explicit so I'll update that | 20:57 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, yes. You have to make the actual value of '<is> True' for it to work though, is what I am saying | 20:57 |
| jgriffith | just wanted to keep communicating with you on what I have in mind on this | 20:57 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: yeah... fair | 20:58 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, also , test_replication_enable and test_replication_disable are failing. "cinder.exception.InvalidVolume: Invalid volume: Volume is not a replication enabled volume, replication operations can only be performed on volumes that are of type replication_enabled." | 20:58 |
| hemna | The next OpenStack project..... http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/07/amazon-snowball/ | 20:59 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: yeah, I saw that :( | 21:00 |
| smcginnis | Snowball? | 21:00 |
| hemna | smcginnis, yah | 21:00 |
| hemna | when you need to copy 50Tb of data from your public cloud to your private.... | 21:00 |
| smcginnis | Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of drives. | 21:00 |
| hemna | ship it in a box | 21:00 |
| jgriffith | hemna: There's your data migration service for Cinder :) | 21:00 |
| hemna | :) | 21:00 |
| smcginnis | LOL | 21:00 |
| hemna | hehe | 21:00 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, I think it needs the extra_spec value for replication_enable? | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | We always joke around that it's faster to ship the disks than to xfr over the wire :) | 21:01 |
| guitarzan | it's absolutely true | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: yeah, I forgot to update the tests to have the mock type | 21:01 |
| hemna | sneakernet | 21:01 |
| guitarzan | we've never done it for cinder, but the cloud files guys have had people ship us drives full of data | 21:02 |
| guitarzan | also.. it's a huge pain :) | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port WSGI tests to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232214 | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port API to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232215 | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port API types extra specs to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232216 | 21:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port image cache to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232218 | 21:08 |
| smcginnis | haypo: ping | 21:09 |
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| jgriffith | How the *Cloud* saved the USPS | 21:12 |
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| xyang1 | jgriffith: hemna can you take a look of this again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229580/ | 21:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: Port violin driver to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/232227 | 21:25 |
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| hemna | xyang1, yah | 21:55 |
| xyang1 | hemna: thanks, want to make sure we agree on the approach | 21:55 |
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| Swanson | On create volume with replication is failure to create the replication exception land? Or should it try to stagger on so long as it created the volume? | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Fix Python 3 issues in EMC vnx client https://review.openstack.org/232249 | 22:14 |
| haypo | smcginnis: pong | 22:17 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: ? | 22:17 |
| Swanson | If I can create a volume but I can't create the associated replication volume should I throw an exception or should I log the error and continue on? | 22:18 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: You should probably error and raise don't you think? | 22:20 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: if someobdy requests you to create foo and you can't you should tell them | 22:20 |
| jgriffith | not just log and ignore | 22:20 |
| haypo | smcginnis: you should leave a message, not just a ping ;-) it's now late in my timezone | 22:21 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, That's what I thought. | 22:21 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: cool | 22:22 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: your question is a good one; the reason being is that I think V1 did the opposite | 22:23 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: it created the volume, but set the replication-driver status to error | 22:23 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, I can see it both ways. If replication isn't happening when it should be that's a problem. If things stop dead because the second backend is down that's a problem. | 22:26 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: yeah, I'd rather error on the side of "it's not doing what the user expects/requested" so we should tell them so | 22:26 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: but I'm certainly open to ideas from others on that | 22:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed) https://review.openstack.org/231201 | 22:29 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, It makes coding one minor thing way easier if I just raise so I'm good with that. :) | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: WIP - 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged) https://review.openstack.org/231245 | 22:30 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: sounds good to me | 22:31 |
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| haypo | smcginnis: leave me a message, not a ping ;) (usually i leave my irc client running when i'm afk) | 22:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Verify volume is replication capable https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: ^^ | 22:33 |
| jgriffith | That *should* do the trick I think | 22:33 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, will take a look | 22:34 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: you may be interested as well since it sounds like you're implementing as well | 22:34 |
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| hemna | xyang1, | 22:35 |
| jgriffith | hemna: the best thing about that is you can do abstraction of sub-classes without a ton of effort | 22:35 |
| hemna | yah, it took me a bit to wrap my head around it | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | hemna: there are some risks, like with the base driver I would never try something like that because it's kinda convoluted | 22:36 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: anyway, thanks for the review | 22:37 |
| hemna | yah, it's pretty easy to blow it up a bit if you do the wrong thing, but can't hurt to comment to explain a bit, for non jgriffith eyes later :P | 22:37 |
| hemna | np | 22:37 |
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| Swanson | I can never remember if I'm going to beaten for putting a period on the end of a docstring line or not. I prefer to not be -1'd for reasons that induce a blind rage. | 22:38 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: :) | 22:38 |
| hemna | *sigh* | 22:38 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: just put a period | 22:38 |
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| jgriffith | always safest (I think) | 22:39 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: and feel free to slap whomever applies a -1 | 22:39 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, Done! | 22:39 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: hi | 22:51 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Add device identifier to replication device https://review.openstack.org/232261 | 22:52 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: aorourke hemna Swanson ^^ | 22:52 |
| jgriffith | That's to hopefully address what was raised yesterday regarding names/ids for unmanaged devices | 22:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed) https://review.openstack.org/231201 | 23:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: WIP - 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged) https://review.openstack.org/231245 | 23:09 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: how does a user type that in the type xxx set replication_enabled=?? | 23:17 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: so you want users to have to type replication_enabled='<is> True' ? | 23:18 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: I think that really sucks | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | :( | 23:19 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, they already have to | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | but ok | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: they do for the stuff that you implemented | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | nothing else :) | 23:19 |
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| jgriffith | multiattach and I think CG are the only places we use that | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | nowhere else that I'm aware of | 23:19 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, in order for the scheduler to match and find a weighed host, the extra specs value has to be <is> True | 23:19 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: untrue, but it's fine... I can change it | 23:20 |
| aorourke | if I change my replication_enabled value to just True, it failds to find a weighed host | 23:20 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: correct, currently that's correct | 23:20 |
| jgriffith | aorourke: there are plenty of alternatives... | 23:20 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, there are? | 23:20 |
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| jgriffith | anyway, I will change it for you | 23:20 |
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| jgriffith | aorourke: yes, use ints, use strings etc | 23:21 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, in the extra specs? to enable replication, can replication_enabled be anything other than '<is> True'? | 23:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Verify volume is replication capable https://review.openstack.org/231753 | 23:28 |
| aorourke | jgriffith, to be clear, if there is another way other than setting replication_enabled to '<is> True', that would be great to know. I think it is pretty strange you cannot set it as a bool directly. | 23:28 |
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| jgriffith | I'll pick this back up later | 23:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | howdy | 23:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm working on the installation guide for liberty and wondered what the recommended endpoints are for supporting cinder v2... and if i need to keep v1 support for anything | 23:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there was some confusion in prior cycles about use of /v2, sometimes service name differences too | 23:31 |
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