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| wanghao | John: Ping | 06:16 |
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| wanghao | Jon: Would you like to do me a flavor to review this bp: Implement function to manage/unmanage snapshots(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144590/). | 06:17 |
| wanghao | John: We need to decide whether using TaskFlow or not. | 06:17 |
| wanghao | John: Need your and Mike's comment with that. Thanks. | 06:19 |
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| vincent_hou | avishay_: ping. | 06:39 |
| avishay_ | vincent_hou: hi | 06:39 |
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| vincent_hou | avishay_: How are you doing, buddy? | 06:39 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: good, you? | 06:39 |
| vincent_hou | avishay: I am fine. I wish you could be in vancouver. | 06:40 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: yes, couldn't make it unfortunately | 06:40 |
| vincent_hou | There are stuffs going on about migration. | 06:40 |
| vincent_hou | Thank you for your comments on the spec. | 06:40 |
| vincent_hou | I replied with my comments back. | 06:41 |
| vincent_hou | Hope you can take a look. One important thing is that for all the issues related to in-use volume, we need to wait until multi attach lands in nova. Currently I am considering available volumes only. | 06:42 |
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| vincent_hou | the original link is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/volume-migration-improvement | 06:43 |
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| vincent_hou | About the management of the volume status, we reach an solution in the session. | 06:43 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: what does in-use volumes have to do with multi-attach? | 06:44 |
| vincent_hou | We expect volume status tells the actual status of the volume, and we need to know if the last migration fails or succeeds. | 06:44 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: if you want to expose information to all users that was until now admin-only, then i think you'll need to open a security advisory on that | 06:45 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: i'm not sure that's what you want to do, and i think people are confusing 'user' and 'admin' | 06:45 |
| vincent_hou | Sure. | 06:45 |
| vincent_hou | I will make the difference for them | 06:45 |
| vincent_hou | Thank you for pointing out. | 06:45 |
| vincent_hou | How nova instance will get the volume attached will be changed due to the feature of multi attach. We talked about the VM migration with volumes attached in the sessions. Everything needs to wait until the code merged in nova. | 06:47 |
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| vincent_hou | That is why I would like to consider the issues regarding to the in-use(attached) volumes after the multiple attachment support is merged in nova. | 06:56 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: it should still be in the spec. you can mention that work on in-use will start after multi-attach is merged. | 06:58 |
| vincent_hou | Anyway, I will change it to make the scope more clear. | 06:58 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: ok, thanks! | 06:59 |
| vincent_hou | I plan to draft another spec for the attached volume, because the attached volumes will introduce more issues. | 06:59 |
| vincent_hou | Before the summit, I was expecting to discuss the issues for attached volumes. However, since nova is on a change for the volume attachment, we said let' s wait for the multi attach to land. | 07:02 |
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| wanghao | DuncanT: ping | 07:18 |
| wanghao | DuncanT: here? | 07:18 |
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| vincent_hou | avishay: Still there? | 07:24 |
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| vincent_hou | avishay: Still here? | 07:54 |
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| avishay | vincent_hou: yes | 08:09 |
| vincent_hou | I will limit the scope to admin only, not the volume users? Does it sound ok to you? | 08:10 |
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| vincent_hou | but I prefer to change the volume status to "migrating" during migration to avoid the confusion of available volume unable to attach, in-use volume unable to detach. | 08:12 |
| vincent_hou | Anyway, I have to move it forward. | 08:15 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: i wrote that there is no reason to not allow attach/detach - you can abort the migration | 08:21 |
| avishay | vincent_hou: if you want this to be the first instance in the history of cinder to expose backend information to users, go ahead | 08:21 |
| vincent_hou | How to abort the migration if it being processed | 08:22 |
| vincent_hou | And you have no idea what stage you are in a migration. What if the original volume is being deleted? | 08:23 |
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| vincent_hou | I just want to expose some information to the admin | 08:24 |
| avishay | if the original is deleted then you finish, otherwise you stop the copy and delete the source | 08:25 |
| vincent_hou | As i said, I omit the users | 08:25 |
| avishay | you can expose whatever you want to the admin, the more the merrier | 08:25 |
| avishay | you said you want to change the status, which everyone sees | 08:25 |
| vincent_hou | OK. | 08:25 |
| avishay | if the core team wants to expose the information that's fine, but i just raised an objection | 08:26 |
| vincent_hou | The problem is that is there command i can run to stop the migration? | 08:26 |
| avishay | Cinder manages the migration, need to add code to abort it | 08:27 |
| vincent_hou | OK. This is something new to be added? Right? | 08:27 |
| avishay | Yes | 08:28 |
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| vincent_hou | OK. Let's speak step by step. My brain can not go that fast. | 08:29 |
| vincent_hou | There is a case that the old volume is about to delete and the new volume is already there, but the migration is not complete. If user do attach, how to handle? | 08:30 |
| vincent_hou | Roll back to origin? Or try to complete the migration? | 08:31 |
| vincent_hou | It is good idea to stop migration, but it is a bit tricky to control. | 08:32 |
| avishay | in my opinion if the copy finished, complete the operation, otherwise stop the copy and delete the destination | 08:32 |
| avishay | it's not easy, that's why i didn't do it as a first step, but it's necessary IMO | 08:32 |
| avishay | are you moving the code to taskflow? i saw something about taskflow in the etherpad | 08:33 |
| vincent_hou | Well, to be honest, for available volumes, it is ok to do this way. For attached volumes, I am still not quite sure. | 08:33 |
| vincent_hou | To be honest, there is great argument about taskflow in the summit. | 08:33 |
| avishay | there is an argument about taskflow in every summit for the last 2 years :) | 08:34 |
| vincent_hou | Within 4 to 6 weeks, if there is no significant case using it. cinder is gonna abort it | 08:34 |
| vincent_hou | This is the exact quote. | 08:34 |
| vincent_hou | I guess one week already passed. | 08:35 |
| vincent_hou | Well, I think I can leave the status as it is, until I find out the better solution. | 08:37 |
| nikeshm | avisahy: hi | 08:42 |
| nikeshm | avishay: didnot see you in vancouver | 08:42 |
| nikeshm | :) | 08:42 |
| wanghao | vincent_hou: hi~ I'm not sure whether to push new feature that using TaskFlow. I want to do that, but people tell me it may be removed.... | 08:48 |
| vincent_hou | wanghao: I am a bit worried as well. | 08:48 |
| vincent_hou | wanghao: Within 4 to 6 weeks, if there is no significant case using it. cinder is gonna abort it . | 08:49 |
| vincent_hou | I have no idea how strong they can keep this promise. | 08:49 |
| vincent_hou | Without taskflow expert, I can do nothing with taskflow, even I want to. | 08:50 |
| vincent_hou | I am not sure if it deserve my last try with reaching out taskflow guys. | 08:50 |
| wanghao | vincent_hou: Yes, In fact, there is a bp in my hand that using it too, but I'm sure if it is a significant case using it. | 08:52 |
| vincent_hou | What is it? | 08:52 |
| wanghao | here:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144590/ | 08:52 |
| wanghao | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144590/ | 08:52 |
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| vincent_hou | For me, it is just a termination of the migration. But I think it can be solved in another way. | 08:53 |
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| vincent_hou | Significant case using it means getting the code implemented | 08:56 |
| vincent_hou | I guess you can give a try. | 08:57 |
| vincent_hou | Have you contacted taskflow folks? | 08:57 |
| wanghao | Not yet. | 08:58 |
| vincent_hou | If this can be merged, it is a proof . | 08:58 |
| wanghao | Yes, I think so. | 08:58 |
| wanghao | Do we need taskflow folks to review those patch? | 08:59 |
| vincent_hou | Absolutely. | 08:59 |
| vincent_hou | It is good news for them. | 08:59 |
| wanghao | Got it. I will do that. | 09:00 |
| vincent_hou | I got these folks' mails. need them? | 09:00 |
| wanghao | Sure. That is very helpful. Thanks.:) | 09:00 |
| vincent_hou | one minute | 09:00 |
| wanghao | OK | 09:01 |
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| vincent_hou | Joshua Harlow <harlowja@outlook.com>, | 09:08 |
| vincent_hou | This dude is the lead of TaskFlow | 09:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Rick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use new driver model https://review.openstack.org/178992 | 09:08 |
| wanghao | Got it. Thanks | 09:08 |
| vincent_hou | irc://chat.freenode.net/openstack-state-management is the channel. vilobh is there as well for help. | 09:08 |
| vincent_hou | Since we are in a different time zone from they are, could you send to openstack-dev and cc these guys? | 09:09 |
| vincent_hou | Because we need both the taskfow and cinder folks to know it. | 09:10 |
| wanghao | Sure, I will invite Joshua to review this bp. | 09:10 |
| vincent_hou | Have u been to Vancouver? | 09:12 |
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| wanghao | No...unfortunately | 09:13 |
| wanghao | Emmm, I don't see vilobh in this channel.... Is that nick name of Joshua? | 09:16 |
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| wanghao | Or other guy in TaskFlow? | 09:17 |
| vincent_hou | I am afraid they are still asleep | 09:17 |
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| vincent_hou | I know these two only. | 09:17 |
| vincent_hou | I guess you can start from the mail list | 09:17 |
| wanghao | OK, I will send mail soon. | 09:18 |
| vincent_hou | Put tags [Cinder] [Taskflow] | 09:18 |
| vincent_hou | in the title | 09:18 |
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| wanghao | Sure | 09:19 |
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| lpetrut | thingee: Hi | 09:26 |
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| lpetrut | thingee: Could you please reconsider your -1 on the following patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158713/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174291/ | 09:27 |
| lpetrut | thingee: w | 09:27 |
| lpetrut | thingee: We've fixed the CI issues that were causing the false negatives | 09:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Volume migration improvement for L https://review.openstack.org/186327 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Volume migration improvement for L https://review.openstack.org/186327 | 09:30 |
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| wanghao | e0ne: Hi~ there | 09:32 |
| e0ne | wanghao: hi | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Vincent Hou proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Volume migration improvement for L https://review.openstack.org/186327 | 09:32 |
| wanghao | I have updated this patch :Non-admin user to query volume filter by az. For some UT according Duncan's comments. | 09:33 |
| wanghao | Would you help me to review this again? | 09:33 |
| wanghao | I saw you have +2 before. There is review link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156034/ | 09:34 |
| wanghao | Wish we can push this simple patch to merge soon. Thanks:) | 09:35 |
| nikeshm | e0ne: hi | 09:37 |
| e0ne | wanghao: thanks. i'll take a look on it a bit later | 09:38 |
| e0ne | nikeshm: hi | 09:38 |
| nikeshm | i wanted to upload a patch which depends on some other patch.Seeing this document http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html. not getting what is $PARENT_CHANGE_NUMBER and $DEV_TOPIC_BRANCH.This is the patch on which i am dependent | 09:39 |
| wanghao | e0ne: Sure | 09:39 |
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| nikeshm | e0ne: there? | 09:47 |
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| e0ne | nikeshm: you could check out depended patch | 09:48 |
| e0ne | just open it in gerrit | 09:48 |
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| e0ne | and there will be Download URL after author and commit info | 09:49 |
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| ekarlso | you guys dropping Taskflow or ? | 09:59 |
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| nikeshm | e0ne: is it ok http://paste.openstack.org/show/255731/ | 10:03 |
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| e0ne | ekarlso: we don't know right now:( | 10:31 |
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| e0ne | nikeshm: looks good | 10:52 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 11:37 |
| samueldmq | could someone take a look at this bug, in cinder side ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1458945 | 11:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1458945 in murano "Use graduated oslo.policy instead of oslo-incubator code" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova) | 11:38 |
| e0ne | samueldmq: thanks! i'll take a look on it tonight | 11:38 |
| samueldmq | e0ne, great, I'll mark it as confirmed | 11:40 |
| samueldmq | e0ne, thanks | 11:41 |
| e0ne | samueldmq: np. you're welcome | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/cinder: Remove is_valid_boolstr method https://review.openstack.org/187470 | 12:25 |
| liuxg | hello | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | chenzongliang proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor Huawei Volume driver https://review.openstack.org/187551 | 12:30 |
| DuncanT | liuxg: Hi | 12:31 |
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| wanghao | DuncanT: Hi, I have updated the patch Non-admin user to query volume filter by az(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156034/) according your comment. If you have time, please help me to review it. Thanks.:) | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/186112 | 13:21 |
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| DuncanT | wanghao: Done | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: Add missing unit test for goodness weigher https://review.openstack.org/187157 | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor scheduler's create_volume flow https://review.openstack.org/186439 | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use ABCmeta driver model https://review.openstack.org/178992 | 14:26 |
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| scottda | Will patches in-flight that don't have the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1460774 pick this up when they merge? I think Gerrit does the work, but am not positive since it causes a flak8 failure. | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1460774 in python-cinderclient "Gate fails on gate-python-cinderclient-pep8" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Tomoki Sekiyama (tsekiyama) | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rick Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Port ProphetStor driver to use new driver model https://review.openstack.org/178992 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Nova volume-detach --force requires API https://review.openstack.org/187305 | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor API create_volume flow https://review.openstack.org/187624 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Tintri Cinder Volume driver https://review.openstack.org/185148 | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Patrick East proposed openstack/cinder: Refactor PureISCSIDriver into base and iSCSI classes. https://review.openstack.org/182136 | 15:09 |
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| elmiko | thingee: ping | 15:49 |
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| tsekiyama | scottda: It is merged and pep8 seems running now. If you mean failure in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187305/ , it is hitting some errors like "./cinderclient/v2/shell.py:439:1: E302 expected 2 blank lines, found 1" | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/186112 | 16:05 |
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| thingee | lpetrut: done | 16:06 |
| lpetrut | thingee: thanks! | 16:06 |
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| elmiko | hey thingee, could i bend your ear for a minute? | 16:08 |
| scottda | Thanks tsekiyama . I was running tests for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185660/ and they failed due to the pep8 bug that you fixed. It fails locally, but I'm guessing that gerrit will rebase and it will pass upstream CI | 16:08 |
| thingee | elmiko: just ask your question, don't normally respond to pings. | 16:08 |
| thingee | :) | 16:08 |
| elmiko | ok, sorry. my name is michael mccune and i'm doing some outreach for the api working group to all the listed liaisons, | 16:09 |
| elmiko | i wanted to share a few links we are working through with the hope of increasing visibility | 16:09 |
| thingee | ameade: you still interested in the api wg? | 16:09 |
| thingee | ameade: you reached out to me about it in paris, but it never progressed from there | 16:09 |
| elmiko | the first is a proposed responsibilities guide from the nova folks, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/APIWGLiaisons | 16:10 |
| elmiko | the second is a merge workflow guide we are putting together, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186836/ | 16:10 |
| elmiko | we just want to make sure that all the projects with liaisons are aware of the guidelines that are being created and, hopefully, the process we are using. | 16:11 |
| tsekiyama | scottda: yeah, currently you need to 'rebase origin/master' manually after checking out from the git repo to run tests successfully. | 16:11 |
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| elmiko | i imagine over the L cycle we will increase our dialogue with projects to get more feedback when possible | 16:12 |
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| thingee | elmiko: honestly haven't been involved myself. I know I'm listed as liason because it defaults to ptl. Will probably delegate to someone. That's why I was poking ameade about it | 16:12 |
| thingee | ameade: ^ | 16:12 |
| elmiko | thingee: for sure, and that's cool. | 16:12 |
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| elmiko | i think at the minimum we'd like the project liaisons to be aware of the guidelines we are proposing, and express any objections that might arise. | 16:13 |
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| elmiko | we aren't looking to create an api-police or anything like that lol | 16:13 |
| thingee | Yeah I got that. They're guidelines | 16:14 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:14 |
| thingee | it would be great for all projects to be on the same page though | 16:14 |
| elmiko | agreed | 16:14 |
| thingee | how has that been working out so far? | 16:14 |
| elmiko | it's been going well, we've got several guidelines in place and a brisk pace of folks contributing new guides | 16:14 |
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| thingee | but in terms of acceptance? | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Bump SolidFire version number https://review.openstack.org/187651 | 16:15 |
| elmiko | well, that's the next phase =) | 16:15 |
| thingee | so these are moving beyond guidelines | 16:15 |
| e0ne | thingee: hi. what will we do with https://review.openstack.org/146541 (Set default OS_VOLUME_API_VERSION to '2')? | 16:15 |
| elmiko | we've got good engagement from several projects but it would be nice to spread the word a little further. partially why i'm trying to reach out more =) | 16:15 |
| elmiko | thingee: i wouldn't say moving beyond guidelines, but trying to increase the interaction between the wg and the projects | 16:16 |
| thingee | e0ne: have you gathered thoughts on if it's safe to assume everyone is on v2? I guess it should do the fallback still? | 16:16 |
| elmiko | our new merge guidelines are proposing ml announcements and a freeze period before we merge guidelines to help solicit more opinions from the project teans. | 16:16 |
| elmiko | *teams | 16:16 |
| elmiko | thingee: thanks for your time, and if you end up switching liaisons might i ask that you update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#API_Working_Group =) | 16:17 |
| thingee | ameade: ^ | 16:17 |
| thingee | sure | 16:17 |
| elmiko | cool, take care! | 16:18 |
| thingee | you too | 16:18 |
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| nikeshm | hemna smcginnis: addressed your comments and uploaded new patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177665/ | 16:19 |
| e0ne | thingee: imo we should do it in sope of removing v1 | 16:19 |
| thingee | smcginnis with his shiny +2's | 16:19 |
| thingee | sope? | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | thingee: ;) | 16:19 |
| e0ne | i'm sorry, typo. i mean "scope" | 16:20 |
| thingee | e0ne: I agree | 16:20 |
| e0ne | thingee: ok. i'll add comment | 16:20 |
| e0ne | thanks | 16:20 |
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| hemna | nikeshm, nice | 16:21 |
| hemna | I'll check it out | 16:21 |
| nikeshm | thanks | 16:21 |
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| Swanson | thingee: I have a blueprint like this one... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/dell-log-and-comment-update That isn't a bug and doesn't really warrant a blueprint. Do I just submit a review for such things or is the blueprint correct? | 16:21 |
| thingee | Swanson: don't need a bp. make a bug if you like | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Scott DAngelo proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Nova volume-detach --force requires API https://review.openstack.org/187305 | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Tintri Cinder Volume driver https://review.openstack.org/185148 | 16:24 |
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| Swanson | thingee: thx | 16:26 |
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| anuragpalsule | xyang1: I responded to your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180447/, this is about cinder pool capacity monitoring | 16:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuhiro Tanino proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add volume multi attach support https://review.openstack.org/85856 | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Make c-vol appear down if driver is uninitialized https://review.openstack.org/187670 | 16:40 |
| hemna | nikeshm, waiting for the dothill CI to report.... | 16:42 |
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| hemna | nikeshm, lgtm though | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Earle F. Philhower, III proposed openstack/os-brick: Add HGST volume type Connector https://review.openstack.org/186588 | 16:43 |
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| dulek | Hi guys, any chance of getting backup object merged? https://review.openstack.org/157085 - it has a lot of +1 and I think it's ready. | 16:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Earle F. Philhower, III proposed openstack/os-brick: Add HGST volume type Connector https://review.openstack.org/186588 | 16:48 |
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| thingee | dulek: heh I'll take a look :) | 16:49 |
| thingee | and if tbarron is on board :) | 16:50 |
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| dulek | thingee: He had some concerns, but I think I've addressed them. :) | 16:50 |
| tbarron | thingee: dulek: I'll look again, think the concerns were addressed though | 16:50 |
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| tbarron | thingee: dulek: yeah, lgtm | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Dulko proposed openstack/cinder: Fix assertRaisesRegexp deprecation warnings in UT https://review.openstack.org/187682 | 17:06 |
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| earlephilhower | Cinder volumes are specified as "n * 1024^2" bytes, but some backends have alignment rules so they actually return volumes of size > "n*1024^2" bytes. | 17:09 |
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| earlephilhower | Does Cinder enforce the sized it requested on the clients? Or can the client access the entire space the backend returns? | 17:09 |
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| earlephilhower | I'm curious about this beause of things like migrating between two different volume backends, one with, say, a 1000^3 byte granularity to one that works on 1024^3 | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Add missing connectors to factory test https://review.openstack.org/186837 | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikesh proposed openstack/cinder: Adds FC and ISCSI Cinder drivers for HPMSA Storage Arrays. https://review.openstack.org/187707 | 18:03 |
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| nikeshm | hemna smcginnis: hi now FC and iSCSI CI is showing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177665/ | 18:07 |
| nikeshm | hemna smcginnis : so looking forward for merge :) | 18:07 |
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| hemna | nikeshm, jenkins -1 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/cinder: Adds FC and ISCSI Cinder drivers for DotHill Storage Arrays. https://review.openstack.org/177665 | 18:11 |
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| smcginnis | nikeshm: I'm sure the rebase/recheck will clear it. No reason I could see any of your changes should have affected ceph. | 18:13 |
| nikeshm | ok sure | 18:14 |
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| hemna | yup | 18:14 |
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| patrickeast | hemna: hey, just saw your comment on our FC driver about using the lookup service, two questions… why isn’t this something the zone manager does automatically? and if not, when would we not want to do it? | 18:30 |
| hemna | patrickeast, it can't be done automatically | 18:30 |
| hemna | because it's up to the volume driver to decide what to do with mapping | 18:31 |
| hemna | a driver might not want to export a volume to every possible combination | 18:31 |
| hemna | due to a number of factors | 18:31 |
| hemna | 1) multipath might be off/disabled | 18:31 |
| hemna | 2) the backend array might have limitations wrt how many ports a volume can be exported, etc | 18:32 |
| hemna | the fczm doesn't know anything about 1 or 2 | 18:32 |
| patrickeast | hmm alright, that makes sense | 18:32 |
| hemna | and never will | 18:32 |
| patrickeast | yea | 18:32 |
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| patrickeast | i was naively thinking everyone would just do the same thing and always expose it when they could | 18:32 |
| patrickeast | err | 18:32 |
| patrickeast | when they were connected* | 18:33 |
| hemna | it would be nice if every array was the same wrt to this, but not all are created equal | 18:33 |
| patrickeast | so then whats the downside to just giving the map of initiators and targets regardless of if they are connected at the time? | 18:34 |
| * patrickeast is kind of a noob with fc | 18:34 | |
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| hemna | because if nova doesn't have multipath enabled | 18:35 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: That is a good point. Just because the target isn't actually exposed over a given intiator/target path, it wouldn't harm anything to have it zoned so they could. | 18:36 |
| hemna | you will end up with a bunch of orphaned volumes at detach time. | 18:36 |
| hemna | and you'll end up with a bunch of zones on the switch that aren't used | 18:36 |
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| hemna | and will never get removed :( | 18:36 |
| patrickeast | oh yea | 18:36 |
| patrickeast | i forgot about that | 18:36 |
| patrickeast | we’ve run into issues with that when first testing our driver out :( | 18:37 |
| patrickeast | ok that makes sense | 18:37 |
| hemna | it's safest to make sure you really want to create the zones | 18:37 |
| hemna | for the actual exports your driver/array does | 18:37 |
| hemna | orphaned attaches will cause problems later on | 18:37 |
| dannywilson | hemna: thanks | 18:38 |
| hemna | I roughly term those "dangling luns" | 18:38 |
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| hemna | dannywilson, :) yw | 18:38 |
| patrickeast | yea i guess the only think im thinking of is if for whatever reason a port was down temporarily we would still want it in the zone so later it could be picked up… but the problems with having orphans is much worse | 18:38 |
| patrickeast | derp s/think/thing/ | 18:39 |
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| hemna | ideally everyone runs multipath | 18:40 |
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| hemna | and then you export multiple paths to combat the port failures correctly | 18:41 |
| patrickeast | i would hope thats the case for any production environments | 18:41 |
| hemna | yah same here. | 18:41 |
| patrickeast | although i’m sure it happens | 18:42 |
| hemna | probably for private clouds | 18:42 |
| hemna | dunno | 18:42 |
| hemna | it's a guess | 18:42 |
| patrickeast | yea, or like POC kind of things | 18:42 |
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| mtanino | hemna: sorry for my interrupt to your multi attach support patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85856/18 I just updated few unit tests. | 18:46 |
| hemna | am I the only one annoyed with c-vol startup puking out all the conf options, and in the middle of those options being dumped out we see volume manager log output intermixed ? | 18:46 |
| hemna | looks like openstack/common/service.py is responsible for dumping the config options | 18:46 |
| hemna | in a separate thread, while the volume manager's init_host is being run. | 18:47 |
| hemna | bleh | 18:47 |
| hemna | guess we have no control over that | 18:48 |
| e0ne | hemna: openstack/common/service.py is deprecated. it will be moved to oslo.service soon | 18:48 |
| dannywilson | hemna: you are not the only one | 18:48 |
| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/oslo_service/service.py | 18:49 |
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| hemna | looks like that has the same 'problem' | 18:49 |
| hemna | it just pukes out CONF.log_opt_values always | 18:50 |
| hemna | It would be nice to disable that there, and just have our Service.start() dump that prior to calling self.manager.init_host() | 18:50 |
| hemna | then anything inside of init_host() will not get logged until after the CONF.log_opt_values finishes | 18:51 |
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| hemna | so it's readable | 18:51 |
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| e0ne | hemna: we need to file a bug | 18:52 |
| hemna | yah I was just thinking that | 18:52 |
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| hemna | the service startup code is a tangled web | 18:52 |
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| hemna | still trying to understand the sequence of events with it. | 18:52 |
| patrickeast | asselin: hey, you around? | 18:53 |
| hemna | it's just an annoyance more than anything, but it can make the log hard to read failures. | 18:53 |
| hemna | mtanino, thanks! | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add volume multi attach support https://review.openstack.org/85856 | 18:54 |
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| mtanino | hemna: sure :) | 18:56 |
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| asselin_ | patrickeast, hi | 18:57 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: hey, i was curious about how you are scaling your ci system… if i remember correctly you have each physical host as a all-in-one openstack provider for nodepool, right? | 18:58 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: we are adding more hardware and deciding on whether to scale out the existing ‘cloud’ we are using, or to do something similar | 18:58 |
| asselin_ | patrickeast, yes | 18:58 |
| patrickeast | asselin_: any issues or downsides with that approach that you have run into? | 18:58 |
| asselin_ | patrickeast, either way should work. | 18:58 |
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| asselin_ | patrickeast, the main reason for keeping ours an individual was for fc passtrhough | 18:59 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: ah yea, we have ours set up with each compute node in its own availability zone and a separate nodepool provider limited to that zone | 18:59 |
| asselin_ | patrickeast, but that was before you added the 'hypervisor' solution to the fc passthrough scripts | 19:00 |
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| asselin_ | patrickeast, oh I see | 19:00 |
| patrickeast | asselin_: otherwise we don’t have a good way to limit how many get scheduled on that node for FC vm’s | 19:00 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: part of the problem is that we aren’t neutron experts… and adding in additonal compute nodes *and* getting them set up to do iscsi adapters on the vm’s is proving… uh… challenging | 19:01 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: so it sounds like there isn | 19:02 |
| patrickeast | t really any downside either way then* | 19:02 |
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| asselin_ | patrickeast, before having each provider was a pain b/c images were created on the provider | 19:03 |
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| asselin_ | patrickeast, but now with dib, they're all running the same image | 19:03 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: ahh yea, we’re in the process of switching to dib, dannywilson is working on that right now actually | 19:03 |
| asselin_ | of course, the images need to be uploaded to each, but that's not a big deal | 19:04 |
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| patrickeast | asselin_: yea much less work for each provider | 19:04 |
| asselin_ | patrickeast, yeah, you'll definitely want to use dib | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Expanded comments and update var names https://review.openstack.org/187729 | 19:08 |
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| patrickeast | hypothetically speaking, anyone know how hard it is to switch an installation from neutron to nova networking? | 19:09 |
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| patrickeast | like on a scale of 1 to impossible and i should throw it away | 19:09 |
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| winston-d | patrickeast: i know people doing the other way around - from nova networking to neutron and it wasn't easy, we prepared for months to make it happen | 19:10 |
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| winston-d | patrickeast: but most efforts were spent on to make sure running vms not be impacted, if you don't have that issue, i guess the hardness would be half impossible. :) | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/cinder: EMC ScaleIO Cinder Driver https://review.openstack.org/183762 | 19:12 |
| patrickeast | winston-d: haha, nice half impossible is pretty good | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: update_volume_stats could use uninitialized vars https://review.openstack.org/187736 | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Earle F. Philhower, III proposed openstack/os-brick: Add HGST Solutions connector https://review.openstack.org/186588 | 19:34 |
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| winston-d | thangp: ping | 19:35 |
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| thangp | winston-d: hey | 19:36 |
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| winston-d | thangp: want to confirm with you that we haven't switched to volume object yet, right? | 19:42 |
| thangp | correct | 19:42 |
| thangp | working on it right now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177054/ | 19:42 |
| thangp | slow progress because of 300+ unit tests to update | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikesh proposed openstack/cinder: Adds FC and ISCSI Cinder drivers for HPMSA Storage Arrays. https://review.openstack.org/187707 | 19:43 |
| thangp | winston-d: any reason you are concerned? | 19:43 |
| winston-d | thangp: yeah, that's a lot of work. | 19:43 |
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| winston-d | thangp: i am reviewing the backup object change from Michal, and saw volumes are still in non-object style. | 19:44 |
| thangp | ok | 19:44 |
| thangp | winston-d: eventually we will make that change, and i will go into the backup stuff to make the conversion | 19:45 |
| winston-d | since i haven't been following object for quite a while, wanted to make sure I am not making wrong assumptions | 19:45 |
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| thangp | winston-d: right, the only objects working right now are snapshots, and its not complete yet... there are open patches for it waiting for review | 19:46 |
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| winston-d | thangp: so the WIP 1st set of volume object conversion, it has an outdated dependency, is that dependency already merged? | 19:47 |
| thangp | winston-d: not yet | 19:48 |
| thangp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161077/19 is ready | 19:48 |
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| thangp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163910/, dulek had a comment (havent replied to my response yet) | 19:48 |
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| winston-d | got it, i will work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161077/19 | 19:52 |
| thangp | winston-d: great, thx! | 19:52 |
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| hemna | e0ne, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/1461250 | 20:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461250 in oslo.service "Can't disable CONF.log_opt_values" [Undecided,New] | 20:05 |
| hemna | dannywilson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/1461250 | 20:05 |
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| e0ne | hemna: thanks | 20:05 |
| hemna | so....we'll see if anything other than 'deal with it' complaints happen | 20:05 |
| hemna | it's really annoying to me. | 20:05 |
| dannywilson | hemna: sounds good, thanks | 20:07 |
| hemna | I remember several releases ago, that the output used to be serialized | 20:07 |
| hemna | probably a forking/threading change I'm guessing that caused it | 20:07 |
| dannywilson | hemna: I checked the "it affects me" icon | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Chen proposed openstack/cinder: Tintri Cinder Volume driver https://review.openstack.org/185148 | 20:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Disable backup progress notifications for unit tests https://review.openstack.org/187766 | 20:38 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: Nice! ^^ | 20:41 |
| eharney | smcginnis: it's the only plan i can think up at this point :) | 20:41 |
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| eharney | (dunno if it actually avoids the problem, hopefully) | 20:41 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: I had seen some of the failures, but had no idea. This looks like a good possibility. | 20:42 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: well, i think the real bug is that we aren't mocking out something, and losing a thread running some backup code | 20:42 |
| eharney | smcginnis: but i've poked at this off and on for a few months without being able to see what's broken | 20:43 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: I wouldn't be surprised if we have a few things in there like that, but if this makes things at least a little more stable - that's goodness to me. :) | 20:44 |
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| kmartin_ | thingee, any ideas on how to fix the python-cinderclient releases page? the format is all messed up -> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-cinderclient/releases.html | 20:53 |
| thingee | kmartin_: curious, did you try to build it manually? | 20:54 |
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| smcginnis | Ouch | 20:54 |
| smcginnis | kmartin_: Have you tried using IE 6? | 20:55 |
| smcginnis | :P | 20:55 |
| eharney | wow, that's... neat | 20:55 |
| kmartin_ | smcginnis, lol | 20:55 |
| smcginnis | Almost seems like a CSS issue with that wonky layout. | 20:56 |
| kmartin_ | thingee, no | 20:56 |
| smcginnis | Maybe it's just my viewer, but view source shows some odd characters. | 20:57 |
| eharney | well, that page is also talking about 1.0.2 | 20:57 |
| eharney | i'm not sure it's even being built? | 20:57 |
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| kmartin_ | yeah, looks like that is a old html file laying around, the release notes appear correct http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-cinderclient/#release-notes | 21:03 |
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| kmartin_ | you can't get to the bad link from the current client doc links, it's probably just an old html doc from 1.0.2 | 21:05 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, just noticed from here it looks fine: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-cinderclient/index.html | 21:06 |
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| thingee | yeah built the docs and I just see the grey theme page which looks fine | 21:12 |
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| nikeshm | hemna smcginnis: jenkins gave +1 | 21:20 |
| nikeshm | please allow it to merge | 21:21 |
| hemna | ok | 21:25 |
| smcginnis | nikeshm: Eric has a comment and -1 on there. | 21:26 |
| smcginnis | nikeshm: It looks like that's just the way the array works. | 21:26 |
| smcginnis | nikeshm: Is that correct? If so, can you comment in the review. | 21:26 |
| nikeshm | sure | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Swanson proposed openstack/cinder: Dell SC: Expanded comments and update var names https://review.openstack.org/187729 | 21:40 |
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| nikeshm | hemna : hi | 22:10 |
| hemna | hi | 22:11 |
| nikeshm | hemna: jenkins gave +1,also addressed eric comment,can you give +2 | 22:12 |
| nikeshm | :) | 22:12 |
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| hemna | hrmm | 22:12 |
| hemna | so you can't do https ? | 22:12 |
| hemna | common never passes in a different protocol to the client | 22:13 |
| hemna | so it's always stuck at http:// | 22:14 |
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| nikeshm | hemna: hi i am looking into this,if it needs minimal change i will upload new patch | 22:56 |
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