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| rushiagr | thingee: sorry for the late reply. I was away from work for a few days | 06:15 |
| rushiagr | thingee: yes, I'm going to be at the summit | 06:16 |
| * rushiagr sees thingee's comment on the etherpad | 06:16 | |
| rushiagr | thingee: I was going to ask the same, but just didn't find time -- would it make more sense for it to be a fishbowl session | 06:17 |
| rushiagr | thingee: I'll just move it to fishbowl session section | 06:17 |
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| rushiagr | done | 06:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xi Yang proposed openstack/cinder: VNX Cinder driver Over Subscription Support https://review.openstack.org/177301 | 08:40 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: ping | 09:28 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: Ho | 09:30 |
| DuncanT | Hi even | 09:30 |
| geguileo | XD | 09:30 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: Do you remember we discussed some tests regarding the atomic state changes? | 09:30 |
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| DuncanT | Yes | 09:30 |
| geguileo | They are done: https://github.com/Akrog/test-cinder-atomic-states | 09:31 |
| DuncanT | Awesome! Looking now | 09:32 |
| DuncanT | Thanks! | 09:32 |
| geguileo | Should I add it to the Etherpad for easier reference? | 09:32 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: hi. not sure how we could implement proposed changes to REST API for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174823/. could you please take a look on it once more if you have a time? | 09:34 |
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| DuncanT | e0ne: I'll take another look | 09:51 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: Defintiely add a link to the etherpad, please | 09:51 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: thanks | 09:51 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: Ok | 09:51 |
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| DuncanT | geguileo: This is great stuff! | 09:53 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: Thanks, it has been quite enlighting doing the tests :-) | 09:54 |
| DuncanT | Some of these numbers are very informative, though worrying as hell | 09:57 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: Well, I think some of those numbers are for situations that are more than unlikely to happen | 10:08 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: I don't think there will be constant fights over the same resource | 10:08 |
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| DuncanT | geguileo: Even the one worker per row numbers suggest that fine grained state can't really be managed with any of these methods | 10:13 |
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| DuncanT | geguileo: It does give us fairly solid evidence that the db approach is a good place to start | 10:15 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: I agree, it's more like choosing the least bad solution | 10:16 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: Although, update with where is not THAT bad | 10:17 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: It might also be a sign that we should look at ways of changing our API to allow looser coupling where possible (I've not spotted many opportunities for that in cinder) or else look at a different H/A model for cinder-volume and manage more state locally on c-vol | 10:18 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: There are designs for micro-states that require 12 or more state changes for create alone. These numbers make it quote clear we can't do that with any of the solutions you tried | 10:18 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: But why would you need that many micro-states if you know only 1 will be able to change it? | 10:19 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: So that things like delete-while-creating work | 10:20 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: And task resumption using states | 10:20 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: I see. Do we have a spec for those states? | 10:21 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: I'd like to give it a thought | 10:21 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: Basically I mapped all of the individual bits of work that go into create (e.g. sending the message from c-api to c-shed is 3 to cover the lost message case) | 10:21 |
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| DuncanT | No full spec, no | 10:21 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: Or an email/post/IRC log | 10:22 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: Anywhere outside your head ;-) | 10:22 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: You benchmarks make it quite evident that using that fine grained a state with our current design is not possible | 10:24 |
| dulek | geguileo: Is update_with_where.py based on Nova's code? | 10:24 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: I've got a rough draft of the state table somewhere, I'll send it on to you | 10:24 |
| dulek | geguileo: I have an impression that in Nova they just make a transaction, do SELECT, then check states and if state doesn't match the expected one - raise an exception. | 10:24 |
| dulek | geguileo: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L2490 | 10:24 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: There was a whiteboard at the Fort Colins mid-cycle :-) I've got something written down somewhere, I'm looking for it | 10:24 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: I'm trying to understand that code... | 10:30 |
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| geguileo | DuncanT: I just can't see how they are preventing issues related to replication delays | 10:43 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: I believe that code can fail | 10:43 |
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| DuncanT | geguileo: Hop onto the nova channel and ask there I guess? | 10:43 |
| DuncanT | geguileo: git blame should give you an idea who to talk to | 10:44 |
| DuncanT | Popping out for lunch, back in a bit | 10:45 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, jungleboyj, jgriffith, xyang - Updated slide deck for the FC preso https://www.dropbox.com/s/khdc2rn3zp5y61g/FCPastPresentVancouver.pptx?dl=0 | 15:48 |
| hemna | the outline is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Thanks! I'll take a look. | 15:48 |
| hemna | I updated my 2 slides and reworked the deck | 15:48 |
| hemna | smcginnis, imported your slide into it. | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Awesome. Did it import OK without too much fixing up> | 15:49 |
| hemna | had to fix some of the shadows on the fonts in the boxes | 15:49 |
| hemna | kurt is working on his slide | 15:49 |
| hemna | I have one more slide to work on (Future of FC stuffs) | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Oh no, my shadows won't be right. :P | 15:50 |
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| hemna | hehe | 15:50 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Cool, I will take a look. Are you waiting for content from me? | 15:50 |
| rhe00_ | hemna: I will my slide done as well | 15:51 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, yah, need a slide on your FC drivers | 15:51 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: Ok. Will work on getting that to you this week. | 15:51 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: See slide 10 for what I ended up doing. | 15:51 |
| hemna | Kurt is doing 2 slides. FC driver history/requirements, and 3PAR driver slide, then will hand off to the next person in line | 15:51 |
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| hemna | I think we are trying to do 1 slide per vendor for their FC efforts | 15:52 |
| hemna | the os-brick global reqs patch still hasn't gotten reviews | 15:53 |
| hemna | *Sigh* | 15:53 |
| hemna | guess they are busy ? | 15:53 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Which one is that? | 15:53 |
| hemna | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177372/ | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | Plenty of +1's at least. | 15:54 |
| hemna | my cinder and nova patches are blocked waiting for that guy to land | 15:54 |
| hemna | yah +1 | 15:54 |
| hemna | was hoping that'd help get the attention | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | As long as it doesn't take two releases and get pushed in at the very end. :P | 15:55 |
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| hemna | heh yah | 15:56 |
| hemna | smcginnis, thanks for the comment. should be fixed now | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I see a few other small things, but we can iron those out once we have everything in place. | 15:59 |
| hemna | looks like slide 4 is chopped at the top | 15:59 |
| hemna | going to fix that | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Nie dropbox user name. ;) | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yeah, noticed that too. | 16:00 |
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| hemna | ok 4 is fixed | 16:01 |
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| hemna | some of the formatting like that one got nuked when I had to switch to 16:9 | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Oh well, better now than 5 minutes before the presentation. | 16:02 |
| hemna | yup! | 16:02 |
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| e0ne | eharney: hi. according your patch. https://github.com/eharney/cinder/commit/ea63518ea#diff-439c80f9f706c9c6c8fe90266cde5c40R363 - this things could be very slow with a large number of volumes | 16:08 |
| e0ne | eharney: but i didn't find anything more for it in librbdpy api:( | 16:09 |
| eharney | e0ne: yeah, this is a concern of mine too | 16:09 |
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| e0ne | eharney: may be a stupid idea: can we get needed info by exec one cli command? | 16:11 |
| eharney | e0ne: i'm not sure if that exists, but it would be nice | 16:12 |
| e0ne | let me check | 16:12 |
| e0ne | 'rbd ls' provides only names | 16:13 |
| e0ne | eharney: http://paste.openstack.org/show/210418/ | 16:13 |
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| eharney | e0ne: hmm, looks promising if that's quicker | 16:16 |
| avishay__ | hemna: is my pip install brick ready? :) | 16:16 |
| hemna | avishay__, yes | 16:16 |
| hemna | avishay__, it should work :) | 16:16 |
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| avishay | hemna: how do i get it? | 16:17 |
| hemna | pip install os-brick | 16:17 |
| hemna | should work | 16:17 |
| e0ne | eharney: not sure that it provides all needed info. can't check right now - i've got only devstack with 2gb storage | 16:17 |
| avishay | hemna: niiiiiiiiice | 16:17 |
| avishay | hemna: mazal tov, nice work | 16:17 |
| hemna | ! | 16:17 |
| hemna | w00t! | 16:17 |
| hemna | thanks man. | 16:18 |
| eharney | e0ne: well all that's needed is the logical size of the object... i can play with this and see where it ends up | 16:18 |
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| e0ne | eharney: i check it once i'll my env with ceph working | 16:23 |
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| e0ne | eharney: http://paste.openstack.org/show/210444/ - found real used size | 16:39 |
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| eharney | e0ne: but real used size is the opposite of what i want here | 16:39 |
| e0ne | eharney: sure, it isn't needed for our case | 16:40 |
| e0ne | i'm sorry for confusing you | 16:40 |
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| rasoto_ | hello all | 20:15 |
| rasoto_ | is there a list of special characters that cannot be included in the cinder.con file? I am trying to add a password but the '$' apparently is giving us problem | 20:15 |
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| dims | rasoto_: that should be the only one. escape using \$ or you can use $$ | 20:38 |
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| rasoto_ | dims: ty, do you know if the ' " , # are accepted? | 20:46 |
| dims | yes rasoto_ afaik - https://docs.python.org/2/library/string.html#template-strings | 20:47 |
| rasoto_ | great, ty dims :) | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diem Tran proposed openstack/cinder: Re-integrate Oracle iSCSI Cinder driver https://review.openstack.org/178319 | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yucong Feng proposed openstack/cinder: Removing sleep between when a command is sent and 'YES' is sent https://review.openstack.org/177335 | 21:27 |
| jamielennox | thingee: did you do a review with that add_discovery_hack? it should fix all the log spewing | 21:28 |
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| thingee | jamielennox: yeah actually about ready to post a review, thanks | 21:29 |
| jamielennox | thingee: cool, people see keystoneclient messages in logs and they come blaming me :) | 21:29 |
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| thingee | :) | 21:30 |
| thingee | all part of my plan | 21:30 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/178410 | 21:35 |
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| mtreinish | jamielennox: well it is your fault | 21:41 |
| mtreinish | 3.3M warnings in 10days all with keystone middleware in the name, who else are we supposed to blame :) | 21:41 |
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| mtreinish | oh, you meant the other one didn't you? Not the c-api warning messages on every api request | 21:46 |
| jamielennox | mtreinish: right the cinder one is the can't discover endpoint something (i've lost the window) | 21:47 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure what's happening with the c-api | 21:47 |
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| mtreinish | thingee: you might want to be in #openstack-qa | 22:01 |
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| uberjay | can someone explain to me how tox selects what python to use when building a virtual environment? the py27 env is picking up python2.7, but the pep8 env is getting 2.6, which causes the flake8 tests to fail in a number of places. (invalid syntax exceptions) (to see the output for each env setup: http://paste.openstack.org/show/210874/ ) | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add version removal rule to stop discovery warning https://review.openstack.org/178439 | 22:12 |
| thingee | jamielennox: ^ | 22:13 |
| thingee | jgriffith: ^ | 22:13 |
| uberjay | i'm (unfortunately) running this on a centos 6.6 machine, and python2.7 is installed alongside the original system 2.6 installation. (using software collections) | 22:14 |
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| jamielennox | thingee: -1 | 22:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/os-brick: Drop use of 'oslo' namespace package https://review.openstack.org/178444 | 22:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add version removal rule to stop discovery warning https://review.openstack.org/178439 | 22:28 |
| jamielennox | thingee: as it seems pressing, i made the change and re-proposed - hope you don't mind ^ | 22:28 |
| thingee | Of course not. I was just moving things to client.py and testing things to make sure we're ok | 22:29 |
| thingee | thanks | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Test for api replays https://review.openstack.org/178445 | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Test for api replays https://review.openstack.org/178445 | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/cinder: WIP: Test for api replays https://review.openstack.org/178445 | 23:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add version removal rule to stop discovery warning https://review.openstack.org/178439 | 23:29 |
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