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| winston-d | e0ne_: ping | 08:01 |
| winston-d | e0ne_: around? | 08:02 |
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| e0ne | winston-d: hi | 08:08 |
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| winston-d | e0ne: want to do a quick check with you about block device driver :cinder/volume/drivers/block_device.py | 08:11 |
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| e0ne | winston-d: not sure that i could help you but i'll try | 08:13 |
| winston-d | e0ne: it was contributed by one of Mirantis dev. | 08:15 |
| e0ne | :) | 08:15 |
| winston-d | e0ne: i am wondering if any of your customer or even within your lab, have a relatively large scale deployment of this driver. | 08:15 |
| e0ne | winston-d: i'll ask our guys | 08:16 |
| e0ne | winston-d: afaik, we did some performance tests with this driver few months ago | 08:17 |
| winston-d | e0ne: great, thx. | 08:18 |
| winston-d | e0ne: any info you can share is appreciated | 08:18 |
| e0ne | winston-d: np. i ping you once i'll have any update | 08:19 |
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| winston-d | e0ne: need to get away from desk, feel free to leave me message, will check later. | 08:21 |
| winston-d | e0ne: thank you again for the help! | 08:22 |
| e0ne | winston-d: ok. i'll chat you later today | 08:22 |
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| deepakcs | e0ne, is there a way to restore a table (once deleted) in a DB, cinder-manage db sync didn't help | 08:27 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: You're probably going to have to fix it up by hand if db sync doesn't fix it | 08:27 |
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| e0ne | deepakcs: did you try to 'cinder-manage db sync prev_version && cinder-manage db sync'? | 08:28 |
| DuncanT | 'describe table' on a devstack install will give you the necessary create statement I think | 08:29 |
| e0ne | DuncanT, deepakcs: db sync won't help if you change schema manually, you need to downgrade to prev revision first | 08:29 |
| e0ne | after that db sync should work | 08:30 |
| DuncanT | e0ne: That will only fix table(s) added by the last migration, right? | 08:30 |
| DuncanT | e0ne: If it's a different table, you might need to go back lots of revisions, and our downgrades are lossy.... | 08:31 |
| deepakcs | e0ne, i think DuncanT is right, if i remove say encryption table, just going back to prev_revision may not help ? | 08:32 |
| deepakcs | e0ne, so Q being, is there a way to force db sync to start from rev 0 ( i tried passing 0 and other stuff, it didn't work) | 08:32 |
| deepakcs | e0ne, in fact db sync help didn't say prev_revision as a valid arg, is it ? | 08:32 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT, just curious, what u mean by "downgrades are lossy" | 08:33 |
| DuncanT | deepakcs: I mean that if you downgrade, you lose some info about existing volumes, potentially making them unusable | 08:35 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT, desc table only gives the fields of the table (not the create statement) that too if the table is present | 08:35 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: i think you're right. it's sounds reasonable | 08:35 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT, e0ne how do i know which version my DB/tables are at ? (assuming i or someone else did db sync 30, is there a way to know from the DB itself?) | 08:40 |
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| DuncanT | deepakcs: There's a version table | 08:55 |
| deepakcs | DuncanT, got it, migrate_version, thanks | 08:56 |
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| kaisers1 | DuncanT: ping | 09:49 |
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| DuncanT | kaisers1: Hi | 10:18 |
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| kaisers1 | DuncanT: Hi! Can you check / triage a bug ticket?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1438603 | 10:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438603 in Cinder "Priviledged user permissions issue in Quobyte volumes" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Silvan Kaiser (2-silvan) | 10:22 |
| DuncanT | Looking now | 10:22 |
| kaisers1 | DuncanT: thnks | 10:22 |
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| kaisers1 | DuncanT: Fix has one +2 so far | 10:22 |
| DuncanT | kaisers1: I meant to get back to you on this. I'm not sure the bug makes sense | 10:24 |
| kaisers1 | DuncanT: oh, ok? | 10:25 |
| DuncanT | The user used to call nova is a keystone user | 10:25 |
| DuncanT | That shouldn't affect file permissions at all | 10:25 |
| DuncanT | The nova user .v. the cinder process user is the only thing that affects the file permissions | 10:27 |
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| kaisers1 | In that case i did not correctly grasp the issue itself. | 10:31 |
| kaisers1 | Weird thing is the fix does work | 10:31 |
| DuncanT | Yes, but the thing the fix is changing is nothing to do with the privileged user stuff | 10:37 |
| DuncanT | To put it another way, without your fix applied, if you remove the privileged user entry from cinder.conf, does everything work? | 10:38 |
| DuncanT | I don't think it will | 10:38 |
| kaisers1 | hmm, i did use changed policies earlier to access the nova api | 10:38 |
| kaisers1 | afaicr there where no such issues but i'd have to check back on that | 10:39 |
| DuncanT | So I think with an open policy on nova and no priv user setting, I think your driver will be broken for secure mode | 10:39 |
| DuncanT | Your bug is wiht secure mode, not priv user | 10:39 |
| kaisers1 | I'll check into this and update the bug ticket accordingly | 10:40 |
| kaisers1 | Thanks for the feedback! | 10:43 |
| DuncanT | Let me know when I should remove the -2 | 10:43 |
| kaisers1 | will do | 10:43 |
| DuncanT | I think that some config changes (running cinder & nova under the same uid) should enable you to work with secure mode | 10:44 |
| kaisers1 | DuncanT: ok | 10:45 |
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| jbernard | hemna: heay | 13:43 |
| jbernard | hemna: heya, even | 13:43 |
| jbernard | hemna: oh, i think that patch might be just what im looking for | 13:44 |
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| jbernard | hemna: sweet, ill give it a try | 13:44 |
| jbernard | hemna: thanks man | 13:44 |
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| deepakcs | e0ne, ping | 14:35 |
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| deepakcs | As part of creating new table in cinder DB, I also need to implement the _get, _delete etc APIs in cinder/db/api.py and its corresponding functions in cinder/db/sqlalchemy/api.py , is this correct ? | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Cinder Volume replication V2 https://review.openstack.org/155644 | 14:43 |
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| DuncanT | deepakcs: Yes | 14:46 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT, ok, that was missed in the -dev email i sent asking the steps to do when creating a new DB | 14:47 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT, also i don't think i understood your point on the "objects fixup" - can you clarify pls ? | 14:48 |
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| li_zhang | Hi everyone, I saw some projects like nova/ironic have opened specs for liberty, so what's the plan for cinder? thanks | 14:56 |
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| DuncanT | deepakcs: I'm in a meeting now, I'll maybe reply to that on the mailing list later, if that is ok? | 14:59 |
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| deepakcs | DuncanT, sure, np, i may see it today or tomorrow (its dinner time here) | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (scheduler) https://review.openstack.org/173368 | 15:05 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: Any ETA on Cinderclient 1.1.1 ? When were you hoping to spin that? | 15:09 |
| li_zhang | thingee: I saw some projects like nova/ironic have opened specs for liberty, so what's the plan for cinder? thanks~ | 15:12 |
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| eharney | jungleboyj: 1.1.1? | 15:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Kilo Consistency Group CLI update https://review.openstack.org/144567 | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Create Consistency Group from CG Snapshot CLI https://review.openstack.org/148790 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder https://review.openstack.org/112101 | 15:29 |
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| thingee | li_zhang: hasn't been decided yet. maybe tomorrow's meeting | 15:31 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: not sure we can do a release yet? | 15:32 |
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| thingee | li_zhang: here's the last time we spoke about things http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-03-18-16.00.log.html#l-337 | 15:33 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: Still hoping to get version discovery in? | 15:33 |
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| thingee | li_zhang: I think things are starting to slow down to where we can change focus, but I was traveling all yesterday so I need to catch up on the weekend and yesterday | 15:34 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: it's not going to make kilo. too late. I tried bringing it up | 15:34 |
| xyang1 | thingee: jungleboyj , I have a few patches in cinderclient that I'd like to be in the next release | 15:34 |
| thingee | but people can upgrade and won't have problems | 15:34 |
| thingee | we just won't be doing a version bump in kilo | 15:35 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: shouldn't have problems with whatever contains version discovery. not sure what other changes is going to leak in | 15:36 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: Ok. | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: So what else are we hoping to get into 1.1.1? | 15:37 |
| e0ne | thingee: it means, that all openstack distros maintainers won't update python-cinderclient for Kilo because newer version won't be corresponding to Kilo global reqs:( | 15:37 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: not sure if you've been following on the ML from ttx's about doing client/library releases | 15:37 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: I dunno | 15:37 |
| thingee | e0ne: yes | 15:37 |
| thingee | e0ne: out of my control though | 15:38 |
| thingee | e0ne: also I think most people install clients on their laptop via pip. | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: I haven't been following that closely. | 15:38 |
| e0ne | thingee: i hope they do it | 15:39 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: I recommend it before coming to me :) | 15:39 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Ok. | 15:39 |
| jgriffith | thingee: ? | 15:39 |
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| hemna | mornin | 15:39 |
| thingee | jgriffith: hi | 15:39 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: what are you talking about RE clients and ttx? | 15:40 |
| jgriffith | thingee: and the comment "recommend it before coming to me"? | 15:40 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: check the back log? | 15:40 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: ? | 15:41 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: I was recommended to not do a release right now. there's some thread on the ML about it as well. | 15:41 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I'm looking on the ML and asking "why"? | 15:42 |
| jgriffith | thingee: we haven't done a release in quite a while | 15:42 |
| thingee | jgriffith: that is true | 15:42 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: +1 | 15:42 |
| thingee | jgriffith: no aruging against that | 15:42 |
| thingee | not* | 15:42 |
| thingee | :) | 15:42 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I'm just asking you a question? | 15:43 |
| jgriffith | thingee: why is release of a client being "discouraged"? | 15:43 |
| jgriffith | thingee: can you answer that or not? | 15:43 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I don't see the ML post, so I'm in the dark | 15:43 |
| li_zhang | thingee: That's fine, i just want to make sure i don't miss it :) thanks | 15:43 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: because everyone who's released a client during the rc period so far has broken everything | 15:44 |
| thingee | jgriffith: hey you mind not attacking me for a second and calm down so I can get my notes? thanks | 15:44 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: thank you! | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: the most recent example is mestry: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061104.html | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | not only broke the gate but also introduced a breaking cli change | 15:45 |
| jgriffith | Sad... last update to Cinder client was the last September :( | 15:45 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I agree | 15:45 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: got ya.. thanks! | 15:45 |
| thingee | mtreinish: thank you | 15:45 |
| thingee | jgriffith: what exact fixes are you wanting from the client? | 15:46 |
| thingee | or features | 15:46 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith, thingee: once all the kilo branching is done (including g-r) we should be good to push new versions | 15:47 |
| thingee | for critical fixes there's still a period for backports | 15:47 |
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| thingee | mtreinish: I'm aware of this, thanks | 15:47 |
| jgriffith | thingee: was just trying to understand what was up. And going 8 months seems kinda "long" | 15:47 |
| thingee | I was originally searching the the thread link | 15:47 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: unless there is something critical that should be released, not sure what the big deal is | 15:48 |
| jgriffith | thingee: ok | 15:48 |
| thingee | I agree regardless things are missing in talking to some endpoints. | 15:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Update os-brick requirements https://review.openstack.org/173402 | 15:55 |
| thingee | jgriffith, jungleboyj: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061203.html and http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060932.html | 15:55 |
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| thingee | whew that took too long to find for some reason | 15:55 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: sorry wasn't trying to discourage you from asking me questions. was just a lengthy thread on this topic. | 15:57 |
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| li_zhang | thingee: We have a plan to add replication and some other capalibities (eg.thin provision) to our cinder driver, but it seems both driver capabilities and replication will have a change in Liberty, so shall we hold off this after everything has been settled down, or we can propose it at the beginning and then keep catching up with the framwork change? thanks | 16:02 |
| thingee | li_zhang: I recommend working jgriffith and make sure it fits with the replication changes he's proposing. | 16:03 |
| * thingee digs up spec | 16:03 | |
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| thingee | li_zhang: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155644/ | 16:03 |
| thingee | li_zhang: I recommend helping with these current proposals. without them, there is no foundation to start extending them | 16:05 |
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| li_zhang | thingee: yes we have been watching on this. | 16:06 |
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| thingee | hemna, jgriffith: where did we last stand on capabilities? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150511/ | 16:06 |
| thingee | if I remember correctly jgriffith was fine with something much simpler without the documentation | 16:07 |
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| thingee | and by without documentation I mean the backend not pushing up information about certain backend capabilities | 16:07 |
| hemna | thingee, we need to hash it out in Vancouver | 16:07 |
| hemna | I'd like to get closure on it | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | hemna: +1 | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | thingee: hemna not writing a novel in the response json would be a descent start IMO | 16:08 |
| hemna | I also want to reset the approach to fetching the supported driver dictionary for the supported extra specs | 16:08 |
| hemna | I don't think they should be part of the capabilities reported in get_volume_stats | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | hemna: Yayyyy!!!!! | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:09 |
| hemna | I think we should have a new driver api that is called when requested. | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I'm very happy to hear that as you can probably imagine :) | 16:09 |
| hemna | heh | 16:09 |
| hemna | well that was my original design :P | 16:09 |
| thingee | that sounds fine to me, either way something is going to have this information though | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | hemna: that was one of my biggest sticking points if you recall | 16:10 |
| hemna | so I'd like to go back to that. | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I'd still recommend an extension going directly to the driver for extra-specs doc type stuff | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | hemna: but that might be cra/cra | 16:10 |
| thingee | hemna: I don't think that was your original idea. You had a lot of this information in the volume stats | 16:10 |
| thingee | like enum's | 16:11 |
| hemna | capabilities being reported are what the array and driver supports right now, but the dictionary is the list of possible extra specs that it supports, which most likely might be a superset of the reported capabilities right now. | 16:11 |
| hemna | thingee, no it was my original idea | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | hemna: thingee so just a level set.... | 16:11 |
| hemna | thingee, winston said I couldn't do it that way and wanted me to put it in the get_volume_stats | 16:11 |
| thingee | can you show me the spec? I can show you a spec where the original proposal from HP had it in volume stats | 16:11 |
| hemna | it's not what I wanted originally | 16:11 |
| thingee | got it | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | hemna: thingee can we propose standarizing capability reporting | 16:11 |
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| hemna | thingee, our original spec had it this way | 16:11 |
| thingee | jgriffith: yes, my spec will just be the agreement on standards | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | hemna: thingee and treating the supported extra-specs that are NOT handled by scheduler as a seperate topic? | 16:12 |
| thingee | jgriffith: not this extra stuff | 16:12 |
| thingee | jgriffith: +1 | 16:12 |
| hemna | then winston -1'd it and we tried to accommodate, and adjusted the latest spec. | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | hemna: yeah, I remember you mentioning that.. and the objections from winston-d | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | hemna: still need to understand that | 16:12 |
| hemna | yah | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | and what I might be missing there | 16:12 |
| hemna | so that's why I'd like to hash it out between us in Vancouver | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | seems kinda odd, unless the proposal is to push that up into the scheduler | 16:12 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: Yeah, I'd def agree with that | 16:13 |
| hemna | I think he wanted it in the existing scheduler call | 16:13 |
| hemna | anyways, I'd like to get this ironed out and implemented for L | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | hemna: just want to have some outlines/proposals in line prior so we can communicate effectively | 16:13 |
| hemna | perfect | 16:13 |
| winston-d | hemna: I didn't say you can't do it via sepaerate api, what I said is, what you need was already part of scheduler_stats extension | 16:14 |
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| hemna | winston-d, ok anyway, I'd like it as part of a separate API :) | 16:14 |
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| winston-d | by the time everything you need was driver capabilites, which is intended to be consumed by scheduler. | 16:15 |
| hemna | no need to poop a big dictionary into the capabilties being reported. | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | winston-d: so I would agree with your statement about "if it's capabilities" for sure | 16:15 |
| winston-d | so separate driver api or not, scheduler must have a copy of it. | 16:15 |
| hemna | but these aren't capabilities | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | hemna: no need to do it anywhere IMO :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Sorry, was pulled into a meeting. Let me look at the mailing thread and try to understand where things are at. | 16:16 |
| hemna | these are the possible list of supported extra specs that can be put into a volume type. | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | anyway, should be a good topic in Vancouver :) | 16:16 |
| hemna | yah | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | hemna: but you need to clarify | 16:16 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, do you happen to have unit tests for the cinder.utils.retry ? | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | hemna: I think what winston-d is pointing out is what I pointed out in thingee 's spec | 16:16 |
| hemna | jgriffith, I'm pulling it into os-brick | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | there are capability keys, and there are vendor unique scoped keys | 16:16 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: did you look in cinder/tests/* ? | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | hemna: if it isn't there i don't have it :) | 16:17 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: what was that exactly that winston-d pointed out in the spec? | 16:17 |
| hemna | briefly, did a grep | 16:17 |
| winston-d | hemna: yeah, i agreee that for things like patterns/definition of driver only key/values, scheduler has nothing to do with them, and they shouldn't be in volume_stats | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | hemna: and given it's part of an external lib it should be unit tested "there" | 16:17 |
| hemna | jgriffith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168506/9/os_brick/initiator/linuxscsi.py | 16:18 |
| hemna | I was going to replace the loopingCall crap with the retry mechanism | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | hemna: cinder/tests/test_utils.py | 16:18 |
| hemna | it's impossible to not use self.XXX with loopingcall. as it doesn't support local vars | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | test_no_retyr_required and test_wrong_exception_no_retry | 16:18 |
| hemna | jgriffith, ok thanks | 16:18 |
| winston-d | e0ne: yeah, just want to do a quick check with you, see if you have already got something about block device driver. | 16:20 |
| thingee | hemna, jgriffith: I didn't understand the discussion. jgriffith, what was it that winston-d pointed out in the spec that you were pointing out as well? | 16:21 |
| e0ne | winston-d: unfortunatly, i have not update yet:(. we tested it at small test env in autumn and no results are available. i try to reach driver's author for more details | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: the fact that extra-spec keys can be both capabilities as well as vendor-unique | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | thingee: ie scoped keys that are ignored by the scheduler | 16:23 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: vs bare keys which are interpretted as capabilities for filtering | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: So, am I reading this right that we cannot do a python-cinderclient release for Kilo at this point? | 16:23 |
| winston-d | thingee: and capablities (to-be-consumed by scheduler) is already part of volume_stats | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | winston-d: +1 | 16:23 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: right | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | sorry... forgot that part :) | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Wow, that would have been really nice to know before it was too late. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: so the good thing is if we push it to PyPi folks can upgrade | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: in other words since client is decoupled from the release it's not as huge a deal | 16:24 |
| thingee | jgriffith: +1 | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: +1 | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | wreaks havoc with package maintainers though | 16:25 |
| winston-d | however, vendor-specific bits shouldn't be part of volume_stats, and according to hemna, some drivers have much more of that than capabilities. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, it would be version 1.1.2 then. Right? | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | winston-d: yeah.. which I'm kinda "mixed" about that whole thing... but I'm saving my energy for Vancouver :) | 16:25 |
| hemna | well, what I want as a separate API is simply the entire possible list of keys, and metadata (type, possible enum values, etc) for the keys that can be put into a volume type | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | hemna: :) | 16:26 |
| hemna | those most likely will be a superset of whats reported as capabilities at the time get_volume_stats is called. | 16:26 |
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| * jgriffith is still not going to dive deep into this right now ;) | 16:26 | |
| hemna | as some arrays will have licenses that don't allow certain capabilties at that time, but might be changed in the future (calls of get_volume_stats) | 16:26 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I think I might have to leave someone else to do this part. I know you did an explanation in a paste, but I just can't wrap my head around this for some reason :( | 16:26 |
| winston-d | but i thought everything hemna wanted was capabilities (and their explanations), so I suggested using volume_stats and thus scheduler_stats api extension | 16:27 |
| hemna | but I want the admin to be able to see the entire list of possible keys they can put into a volume type. | 16:27 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: This, however, says that we could do 1.1.2 if necessary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061076.html | 16:27 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: yeup | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | thingee: that's cool... we can all work on it together | 16:27 |
| hemna | winston-d, well yes and no. | 16:27 |
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| hemna | except the capabilities being reported in the current call, might and will change over time. | 16:27 |
| hemna | due to changes on the backend (array) | 16:28 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: hmm.. that's an important little detail :) | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: of course it'll really suck if it breaks everyting :) | 16:28 |
| hemna | I think that point was kinda lost in our discussions. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Yeah, so, the question is if we want to do that. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Maybe the answer is 'no' given that concern. | 16:29 |
| thingee | jgriffith: not sure I feel comfortable with the version discovery stuff going in without gate time. | 16:29 |
| winston-d | hemna: yeah, but this time we can do a much better job now that we see things more clearly | 16:29 |
| hemna | :) | 16:29 |
| thingee | jgriffith: a variety of people have tested it, but eh, scary | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I would agree, but maybe that stuff should be reverted out | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: At this point I guess it is a moot point as we only got legal approval for 1.1.1 . :-) | 16:29 |
| thingee | jgriffith: yea | 16:29 |
| thingee | jgriffith: well it hasn't been merged yet | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | thingee: oh.. then no worries :) | 16:30 |
| thingee | jgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145613/ | 16:30 |
| winston-d | e0ne: thx, what I am most interested about block device driver is its performance and how it behaves in real deployment (reliability) | 16:30 |
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| jgriffith | winston-d: check the CI... oh, yeah that's right :) | 16:31 |
| e0ne | winston-d: our performance tests results were similar to lvm backend, but nobody has results data:( | 16:32 |
| winston-d | e0ne:the driver itself hasn't been really updated much, which might imply not that many people actually use it | 16:32 |
| e0ne | winston-d: agree | 16:32 |
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| winston-d | e0ne: which worries me a bit | 16:32 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: https://gist.github.com/j-griffith/fd27297d79e0bb2c3e3d | 16:33 |
| winston-d | e0ne: we have internal Hadoop team looking to use it so I wanted to check with authors (you guys) | 16:33 |
| e0ne | winston-d: i can ping author by e-mail and cc you, if you want | 16:34 |
| winston-d | e0ne: does Sahara use this driver? | 16:34 |
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| e0ne | SergeyLukjanov: ping ^^ | 16:34 |
| winston-d | e0ne: sure, that'll be nice if you can help find the right person to allow me for some questions. | 16:35 |
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| thingee | jgriffith, jungleboyj: so for client release, does it make sense to review things for anything potentially scary to go out? | 16:38 |
| thingee | rather things already merged that would be scary to go out | 16:39 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: maybe | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | although, not sure how you determine that | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | what's scary to some isn't scary to others :) | 16:41 |
| thingee | jgriffith: yeah, I guess git log and just read through :( | 16:41 |
| thingee | yea | 16:41 |
| thingee | jgriffith: it's my job to be a bit paranoid. | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | thingee: yeah... that could be quite the undertaking | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | thingee: honestly we should be able to do local test runs of what's in master as of now | 16:42 |
| thingee | that's why I'm not sure it's a good idea for us to try to push something out anyways..unless there is something specific people wanted. | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | thingee: eliminate a good chunk of doubt right off the top IMO | 16:42 |
| thingee | that we can't live without. So far people just seem to be sad because there hasn't been a push for the sake of an update going out | 16:42 |
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| jgriffith | not a bunhc... help on reset-stae, global req update (could be important) | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | fix volume_transfer | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | haha! | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | pool support | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | that will piss some folks off | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | cg's | 16:44 |
| thingee | better errors messages | 16:44 |
| thingee | instead of http status codes | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | session vs 3'rd party | 16:44 |
| thingee | that might piss people off | 16:45 |
| thingee | re: error messages | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | a lot of "fluff" but a number of solid things as well | 16:45 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I know ttx is planning a stable branch for cinderclient tomorrow, so we'll need to act fast | 16:46 |
| jgriffith | branch for cinderclient? | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | hmm... that's new, I don't know anything about that sort of thing | 16:47 |
| thingee | yes | 16:47 |
| thingee | maybe he meant tag | 16:48 |
| thingee | 1.1.2 | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | ahh... tag | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | but that's release to pypi usually | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | thingee: tag and release | 16:48 |
| thingee | hmm, let me see if I can still get clarification | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | anyway, I haven't been involved in any of the discussions, and not missing anything in the client so I'm "meh" | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/cinder: Logging not using oslo.i18n guidelines (scheduler) https://review.openstack.org/173368 | 16:49 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: winston-d jungleboyj What do you think: | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | 2015-04-14 16:29:24.872 INFO cinder.volume.manager [req-f01dbeec-c71e-4ec3-a42b-77ff978f645b demo] [volume-556c450d-5b47-4cfa-bb98-95a41e7f32be] Some log message: blah blah blah | 16:49 |
| thingee | ooo | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | req-id, tenant/project, volume-name in log messages | 16:49 |
| thingee | blah blah blah isn't help but the rest is :D | 16:50 |
| * thingee ducks | 16:50 | |
| jgriffith | working on the first batch of changes, should have a review up later otday | 16:50 |
| thingee | helpful* | 16:50 |
| jgriffith | thingee: LOL | 16:50 |
| rhe00 | blah blah blah might be as helpful as 409 | 16:50 |
| rhe00 | :) | 16:50 |
| jgriffith | thingee: What... you don't know what "blah blah blah" means here :) | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 16:50 |
| hemna | jgriffith, sorry wasn't following | 16:50 |
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| hemna | pushing cinderclient to pypi ? | 16:51 |
| thingee | jgriffith: might be a log message for replication | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | so I'll get this pushed up later, and add the change to the config in devstack to get it turned on | 16:51 |
| thingee | jgriffith: replication request comes in, stuff happens, blah blah blah | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | thingee: LOL.. that would be about right :) | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | bb in a bit | 16:53 |
| thingee | jgriffith, jungleboyj: so later in the thread sean had disagreements with there being a potential 1.1.2 | 16:53 |
| thingee | so I think we need to limit it to very critical reasons unfortunately | 16:53 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj, jgriffith: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061168.html | 16:54 |
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| winston-d | jgriffith: that's good improvement | 17:00 |
| winston-d | jgriffith: how many times that I hve to dig into tons of log files to corrlate the request id and vol id. | 17:01 |
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| nikesh | thingee: hi,if you get time could you please approve these bps for liberty https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/dothill-iscsi-cinder-driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/dothill-fc-cinder-driver | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device https://review.openstack.org/168506 | 17:33 |
| avishay_ | hemna: much better, thanks! ^^ | 17:38 |
| hemna | avishay_, :) welcome | 17:38 |
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| avishay | hemna: that self stuff just made me gag a bit ;) | 17:38 |
| hemna | anyone that uses the loopingCall code has to use self. | 17:38 |
| hemna | for a counter | 17:38 |
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| hemna | and I didn't want to propose a patch against loopingCall | 17:39 |
| hemna | so.... | 17:39 |
| hemna | retry it is! | 17:39 |
| hemna | :) | 17:39 |
| hemna | ok so once these 3 brick patches land, I think it's good for a pypi push | 17:40 |
| hemna | fwiw | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device https://review.openstack.org/168506 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device https://review.openstack.org/168506 | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device https://review.openstack.org/168506 | 17:54 |
| hemna | review churn city. | 17:54 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Better than them just sitting out there waiting I guess. :) | 17:56 |
| hemna | heh yah | 17:56 |
| hemna | I'm trying to get this stuff in | 17:56 |
| hemna | so I can move on | 17:56 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Thanks for doing the updates. | 17:56 |
| hemna | np | 17:56 |
| hemna | thanks for the reviews and attention | 17:56 |
| smcginnis | +1 for being able to move on! | 17:56 |
| hemna | smcginnis, speaking of moving on, do you happen to still have the etherpad url for the FC preso ? | 17:58 |
| hemna | smcginnis, we need to iron that guy out and get the slides updated. | 17:58 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Yeah, that's going to come up pretty quick. | 17:59 |
| hemna | yup! | 17:59 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Let me see if I can track that down. | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Brick: Fix race in removing iSCSI device https://review.openstack.org/168506 | 18:05 |
| hemna | updated the commit message | 18:05 |
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| uberjay | thingee: hey there -- I was pointed in your direction to get our volume driver bp approved & targeted for Liberty: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/blockbridge-eps-driver | 18:06 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Found this, but etherpad appears to be messed up right now: ttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-cross-company-presos | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | Way too difficult to track down etherpads. Guess I should have book marked it. :D | 18:07 |
| hemna | yah etherpad sux for finding stuff | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Thank you chromium history search: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack | 18:09 |
| hemna | ha! | 18:09 |
| smcginnis | Whichever one I try right now I get a "undefined module" error. :( | 18:10 |
| smcginnis | Hopefully that's resolved soon. | 18:10 |
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| hemna | OK so I put some names next sections. | 18:14 |
| hemna | as a stab at trying to get everyone in on it | 18:14 |
| hemna | I'd like to keep the handoffs to a minimum | 18:14 |
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| patrickeast | speaking of FC, have any of you guys played around with hba’s that support SR-IOV to get more virtual adapters for FC dev/testing? | 18:17 |
| hemna | so... | 18:17 |
| hemna | I've messed around with vHBA stuff a bit | 18:17 |
| hemna | but libvirt has major limitations | 18:17 |
| hemna | from what I've seen. | 18:17 |
| hemna | there is no way to get a vHBA to get passed into a guest | 18:17 |
| hemna | :( | 18:17 |
| patrickeast | oh lame | 18:17 |
| patrickeast | it almost kind of looks like it should work with kvm and sr-iov | 18:18 |
| hemna | it's the entire PCI device or you use the libvirt idea of pools, which completely sucks for CI | 18:18 |
| patrickeast | hmm yea | 18:18 |
| patrickeast | my understanding is you create a virtual pci device and pass that in, but maybe its too good to be true | 18:18 |
| hemna | I've not seen that | 18:19 |
| hemna | :( | 18:19 |
| patrickeast | bummer | 18:19 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Are you able to get in to the etherpad? | 18:19 |
| hemna | yes | 18:19 |
| patrickeast | i’ve got a bunch of big initiators that can host a dozen or so DevStack test nodes, but only 2 FC cards on each… really limits how much I can scale our testing | 18:20 |
| hemna | smcginnis, I was just updating the FC one | 18:20 |
| hemna | patrickeast, yup | 18:20 |
| smcginnis | Hmm. Wonder why I can't. I just get an error. | 18:20 |
| hemna | that's one of the items in our FC preso | 18:20 |
| hemna | :) | 18:20 |
| patrickeast | hah nice | 18:20 |
| hemna | the severe limitation of NPIV support in libvirt | 18:20 |
| hemna | patrickeast, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack | 18:20 |
| hemna | :P | 18:20 |
| hemna | the outline has it | 18:20 |
| smcginnis | I was wondering about npiv. | 18:20 |
| patrickeast | npiv sounds like a dead end without sr-iov | 18:20 |
| smcginnis | That's something that I think had never lived up to its potential. | 18:21 |
| patrickeast | i was reading through https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide/sect-Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide-SR_IOV-How_SR_IOV_Libvirt_Works.html | 18:21 |
| patrickeast | but i still don’t quite understand enough to know how it would work | 18:21 |
| hemna | npiv is great for creating the vHBA wwns | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: If do you try it and get it working I would love to hear about it. | 18:21 |
| hemna | but libvirt needs a create a vPCI based upon the vHBA for it to work in the guest | 18:21 |
| hemna | which it can't from what I've encountered | 18:22 |
| * hemna isn't familiar with SR-IOV | 18:22 | |
| hemna | do HBA's support VT-d ? | 18:22 |
| patrickeast | the only problem with sr-iov is that its only supported on the more expensive 16Gb qlogic cards… we got 8Gb ones on our test nodes :( | 18:23 |
| hemna | from what I've seen VMware can't even do this. | 18:23 |
| hemna | it's pci passthrough of the entire device afaik for vmware as well. | 18:24 |
| patrickeast | yep | 18:24 |
| smcginnis | hemna: That's what I'm doing for our CI. | 18:24 |
| patrickeast | i’ve seen the same thing | 18:24 |
| hemna | yah we are doing PCI passthrough | 18:24 |
| smcginnis | Hmm. chromium no love, firefox is fine. :/ | 18:24 |
| hemna | we get 2 active CI tests per blade | 18:24 |
| hemna | which sucks | 18:24 |
| hemna | simply doesn't scale | 18:25 |
| hemna | especially when we are looking at many different CI configs now per patch | 18:25 |
| hemna | (multipath enabled, disabled) | 18:25 |
| hemna | bleh | 18:25 |
| patrickeast | hehe yea | 18:25 |
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| smcginnis | Until I get more hardware I need to serialize my FC tests. :[ | 18:25 |
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| hemna | I don't think most folks are testing with multipath installed and enabled. | 18:26 |
| smcginnis | On the plus side, they seem to run a lot faster than the iSCSI tests for some reason. | 18:26 |
| hemna | :) | 18:26 |
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| rhe00 | hemna: I think most might at least install multipath. I say this because when I pushed the change to return the encrypted property in the connection_info most CIs failed the encryption test. :) | 18:31 |
| rhe00 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172531/ | 18:31 |
| hemna | yah multipathd running and not enabled causes problems | 18:32 |
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| rhe00 | yes | 18:32 |
| hemna | but that's a user error IMHO, as it should be enabled in nova.conf/cinder.conf | 18:32 |
| hemna | thats bad mmmkay | 18:32 |
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| rhe00 | how far along are you on your fixes btw? | 18:32 |
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| hemna | rhe00, someone else took it over according to the bug | 18:33 |
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| hemna | so I backed off | 18:33 |
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| rhe00 | hemna: ok | 19:02 |
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| vilobhmm1 | tsekiyama : ping | 19:55 |
| thingee | uberjay: check out https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver | 19:55 |
| thingee | uberjay: if you haven't already | 19:56 |
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| uberjay | i have read through all (I think!) of the documentation about submitting a new driver. the 3rd party CI isn't running yet, but we'll be submitting the driver itself for review within the next couple days | 19:57 |
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| thingee | uberjay: ok, I'll take a look at the additonal information link to learn more about this solution. | 19:58 |
| uberjay | I guess I'm not clear on the process around getting the bp approved/targeted. | 19:58 |
| thingee | uberjay: keep in mind the third party ci will be required for code merge. | 19:58 |
| rasoto_ | hello all, I am trying to attach an instance to an iSCSI volume and I am getting the following error | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Command: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf iscsiadm -m node -T iqn.1992-08.com.netapp:sn.b452a178e20e11e4a50500a098569ea1:vs.9 -p 10.2.110.166:3260 --rescan | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Exit code: 21 | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Stdout: u'' | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] Stderr: u'iscsiadm: No session found.\n' | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:27.663 5534 TRACE nova.compute.manager [instance: 798d9ae8-237b-4647-b16d-ea32c2429432] | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | 2015-04-14 19:51:28.116 5534 ERROR oslo.messaging.rpc.dispatcher [req-f4a31db1-ddda-4c22-ae5a-3b8f51164301 ] Exception during message handling: Unexpected error while running command. Command: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf iscsiadm -m node -T iqn.1992-08.com.netapp:sn.b452a178e20e11e4a50500a098569ea1:vs.9 -p 10.2.110.166:3260 --rescan | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | Exit code: 21 | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | Stdout: u'' | 19:59 |
| uberjay | Yep, i'm aware. Duncan mentioned that, but said we could essentially pipeline the review process | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | I was wondering if anyone has seen this and if they found a solution? | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | thingee: but CI can't run unti the code is merged :) | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | rasoto_: poor form!!!! | 19:59 |
| thingee | uberjay: yeah I'll be redefining that soon. we just got done with cinder kilo rc release so please bear with me. | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | rasoto_: don't use past.openstack | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | paste | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | or the pastebin of your choosing | 19:59 |
| thingee | jgriffith: please see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers#How_do_I_run_my_CI_to_test_all_cinder_patches_with_my_driver_not_yet_merged.3F | 19:59 |
| uberjay | yeah, no worries! | 19:59 |
| rasoto_ | jgriffith: will do | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | thingee: well... that should be their own github probabaly don't ya think? | 20:00 |
| vilobhmm1 | jungelboyj : ping | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | thingee: anyway... cool either way, you covered it | 20:01 |
| thingee | jgriffith: it's a wiki, you're welcome to improve | 20:01 |
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| uberjay | thingee: yeah, I totally have the pre-merge CI instruction bookmarked already :) | 20:02 |
| jgriffith | thingee: roger that | 20:02 |
| rasoto_ | jgriffith: here is the link to the log http://paste.openstack.org/show/203917/ | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | rasoto_: so you're not getting an iscsi session | 20:05 |
| jgriffith | rasoto_: could be network connectivity... or chap etc | 20:05 |
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| rasoto_ | ok, I will take a look at that | 20:06 |
| xyang | jgriffith: hi, question for you regarding the incremental backup flag. Are you okay if I just use "--incremental" and not "--incr"? See comments here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112101/8/cinderclient/v2/shell.py | 20:06 |
| jgriffith | xyang: sure | 20:06 |
| jgriffith | xyang: in other words, I'm fine with that | 20:07 |
| xyang | jgriffith: ok, thanks! | 20:07 |
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| rhe00 | thingee: do you have the link to the etherpad covering suggested Cinder topics for Vancouver? | 20:19 |
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| rhe00 | thingee: never mind found it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions | 20:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder https://review.openstack.org/112101 | 20:23 |
| thingee | rhe00: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-proposed-sessions | 20:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/os-brick: os-brick should use oslo_log for logging https://review.openstack.org/173500 | 20:23 |
| smcginnis | Am I the only one seeing issues with chromium and etherpad? | 20:23 |
| patrickeast | smcginnis: its borked for me too | 20:23 |
| hemna | smcginnis, I'm using chromium and it's ok | 20:24 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: Yay, I'm not alone! (Sorry to rejoice in you pain) :) | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | xing-yang proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add support to incremental backups in cinder https://review.openstack.org/112101 | 20:24 |
| hemna | yah you guys are alone | 20:24 |
| hemna | :P | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Vilobh Meshram proposed openstack/os-brick: os-brick should use oslo_log for logging https://review.openstack.org/173500 | 20:24 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: FF works fine for some reason. | 20:24 |
| patrickeast | hmm strange | 20:25 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Any idea what version you're running. I wonder if it's my version or some plugin. | 20:25 |
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| hemna | Version 41.0.2272.76 Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit) | 20:25 |
| patrickeast | Version 41.0.2272.118 (64-bit) | 20:26 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Hm, my version exactly. | 20:26 |
| patrickeast | for me | 20:26 |
| patrickeast | im on osx w/ chrome though | 20:26 |
| hemna | smcginnis, I use incognito full time FWIW | 20:26 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Dang! That did it. | 20:27 |
| smcginnis | Wow | 20:27 |
| patrickeast | haha | 20:27 |
| hemna | nice | 20:27 |
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| smcginnis | It must be the new ant-Google tracking feature of etherpad. :) | 20:27 |
| hemna | I'm creating the first stab at the slide deck | 20:27 |
| smcginnis | *anti | 20:27 |
| hemna | ant-Google ? | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Excellent! | 20:28 |
| hemna | oh | 20:28 |
| hemna | heh | 20:28 |
| hemna | yah | 20:28 |
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| hemna | I'm always incognito 100% of the time | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Ant man?? ;) | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I sold my soul to Google too long ago to care anymore. :) | 20:29 |
| hemna | incognito gives me the illusion that I'm free. | 20:29 |
| patrickeast | but without google tracking me how would i ever find stuff… i’ve become so accustomed to auto-fill everything | 20:29 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 20:29 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: No doubt. | 20:29 |
| patrickeast | cant even remember the last time i’ve typed out a whole url | 20:29 |
| smcginnis | Same | 20:30 |
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| patrickeast | Oh, I had asked last week at some point, but it seemed like no one was around… anyone know what happened with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106084/ ? | 20:34 |
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| smcginnis | Everyone's gone incognito. :) | 20:41 |
| patrickeast | haha yea, i interpret the silence as a ‘no’ | 20:41 |
| smcginnis | Safe bet. | 20:41 |
| hemna | ssshhh be vewwy vewwy quiet | 20:42 |
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| thingee | think this might be backport worthy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155607/ for rc2 | 21:05 |
| thingee | too bad it didn't make it in earlier. | 21:06 |
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| smcginnis | I blame it on jungleboyj. | 21:08 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 21:08 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: What did I do?> | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Everything. It's all your fault. | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Kidding. | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Just looking at the link thingee posted above. | 21:10 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Watch it man, I know where you live and will be in the Cities Thursday! | 21:10 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Nice! In town long? | 21:11 |
| jungleboyj | No, leaving from MSP for a Funeral in Detroit. | 21:11 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Oh, sorry to hear about that. | 21:11 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: If you need somewhere to park other than the airport, I'm < 10 minutes away. | 21:12 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Yeah, that might be good to get into RC2. | 21:12 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Are you on the light rail? | 21:12 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: No, but depending on when in the day I could drop you off. | 21:13 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Wow. You are too kind! | 21:13 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Hey, not a problem at all. | 21:14 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I may take you on that some time. | 21:14 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, just let me know. Unfortunately the path between my house and the airport is very well worn. :) | 21:14 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-) | 21:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Flying spirit out of Terminal 2, so it shouldn't be too hard to get in and out. | 21:16 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, piece of cake. | 21:16 |
| jungleboyj | Anyway, gotta go get Logan from daycare. Back on later. | 21:16 |
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| setmason | Anybody seen a blueprint to compress the data for cinder.backup? | 21:27 |
| setmason | nm | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Update logging to include resource tag https://review.openstack.org/173534 | 21:27 |
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| vilobhmm1 | jgriffith : ping | 21:35 |
| vilobhmm1 | thingee , DuncanT : ping | 21:36 |
| thingee | vilobhmm1: hi | 21:36 |
| vilobhmm1 | whenevr you get time can you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/ | 21:36 |
| vilobhmm1 | thingee : ^^ | 21:36 |
| thingee | vilobhmm1: ok | 21:37 |
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| thingee | vilobhmm1: I'll be likely opening for liberty specs later this week. | 21:40 |
| thingee | I'll definitely have info for tomorrow's meeting. just getting organized right now after a bit of traveling | 21:41 |
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| vilobhmm1 | sure thingee no rush take your time | 21:47 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rc8mk3sbpdhicl/PastPresentFutureFibreChannel.odp?dl=0 | 21:49 |
| hemna | see if that works | 21:50 |
| hemna | been fighting Libre Office Impress | 21:50 |
| hemna | it hates me | 21:50 |
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| jgriffith | vilobhmm1: hey.. what's up? | 22:34 |
| vilobhmm1 | jgriffith : wanted you to have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173141/ whenever you have time | 22:35 |
| jgriffith | vilobhmm1: You dog!!! You beat me to it! :) | 22:35 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, FYI, | 22:36 |
| hemna | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver_fc_in_openstack | 22:36 |
| hemna | started working on the slide deck again for our preso | 22:36 |
| jgriffith | hemna: link no worky | 22:37 |
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| hemna | bah | 22:37 |
| hemna | man wtf is up with folks and etherpad now? | 22:37 |
| hemna | try incognito (if you are using chrome, that fixed it for smcginnis ) | 22:37 |
| jgriffith | hemna: yup, that worked | 22:38 |
| hemna | heh cool | 22:38 |
| hemna | anyway, I posted a dropbox url for a stab at the outline | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: you just need to clear your cache | 22:40 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: yeah... I just need to do it selectively so I don't nuke the stuff I want to keep :) | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | I think on chrome it's shift+ctrl+r | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | assuming you're not a heathen and use a mac | 22:41 |
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| mtreinish | that should clear the cache for the page and refresh | 22:41 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: LOL.. guilty | 22:41 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: sometimes | 22:41 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: little macbook makes a great xterm to my Linux servers | 22:42 |
| patrickeast | cmd+shift+r for mac does it | 22:42 |
| * patrickeast is a heathen (at work) | 22:42 | |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: Good tip.. that did the trick | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | patrickeast: well considering it seems I'm outnumbered here I might be too :) | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: LOL | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: it's funny, I never thought I'd use a mac... but I've grown to kinda like it | 22:44 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: since I get to use both | 22:44 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: if I had to choose one or the other... that would be different | 22:44 |
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| mtreinish | yeah I can respect that, osx is just too shiny for me. I also need my nipple for the mouse, touchpads don't do it for me | 22:45 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: hehe... I get that for sure | 22:45 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: another rev on the Intel side and I'll be going back to ThinkPad's | 22:46 |
| jgriffith | just waiting for the battery life and displays | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: have you looked at the gen 3 x1 carbon? | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | I really wish I didn't buy a gen2 last summer | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | I have... and I'm close to going that route | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: DOH! Yeah, I heard that's kind of a bummer with the function keys thing | 22:47 |
| jgriffith | but that it was pretty solid other than that | 22:48 |
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| jgriffith | I LOVE my T440s, but the display is absolute garbage, and batt life is around 2-3 hours | 22:48 |
| hemna | I was thinking about picking up a new macbook Air | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | yeah, it's kinda weird. The key layout is just weird. Also, no physical buttons for the mouse takes getting used to | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | hemna: don't do it | 22:48 |
| hemna | no ? | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | hemna: go with the 13 inch Retina... | 22:48 |
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| hemna | yah ? | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | hemna: or the new "macbook" | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | non pro | 22:49 |
| patrickeast | yea that new macbook one looks sweet | 22:49 |
| hemna | I played with the new macbook | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | reason being for me is I'm a display biggot | 22:49 |
| hemna | I like the keys, but the cpu is crap | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | I want RESOLUTION :) | 22:49 |
| patrickeast | haha | 22:49 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: yeah, and the CPU on the air is the other deal breaker IMHO | 22:49 |
| hemna | i7 ? | 22:49 |
| patrickeast | i ended up getting one of the lenovo y50’s because of that, turns out 4k on a laptop might have been too much | 22:49 |
| jgriffith | For a little more you can get a real processor on the 13 inch Retina | 22:49 |
| hemna | patrickeast, lol | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: hehe.. NEVER!!! :) | 22:50 |
| patrickeast | i have to scale it up | 22:50 |
| patrickeast | things are too small to read | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | That's funny | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | patrickeast: just buy a magnifying glass | 22:50 |
| patrickeast | lol | 22:50 |
| hemna | 2 angstrom fonts? | 22:50 |
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| thingee | hemna: when I complained to jgriffith that the macbook pro was too heavy and I was considering the air, he told me to lift weights. | 23:10 |
| thingee | so I did | 23:10 |
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| thingee | mtreinish: I ended up keeping my 2nd gen and not getting the 1st gen | 23:12 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: LOL | 23:13 |
| mtreinish | thingee: cool, I think that's probably the right choice. The higher res screen and faster cpu are probably worth the weird keyboard | 23:13 |
| mtreinish | I don't think I'd trade mine in for a 1st gen either | 23:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder: Update logging to include resource tag https://review.openstack.org/173534 | 23:17 |
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| thingee | hemna: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169740/ | 23:31 |
| thingee | hemna: is it fine for me to comment that I spoke to you and kmartin that this isn't being supported by HP anymore? | 23:32 |
| kmartin | thingee, correct the OpenStack driver is not supported by HP | 23:35 |
| kmartin | thingee, sure you can use Walt's or my name in the comment. | 23:37 |
| thingee | kmartin: thanks | 23:38 |
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