Wednesday, 2017-04-12

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sc`any reason not to eol mitaka for the cookbooks?12:42
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jklaresc` no, i think we should do that14:05
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fricklerjklare: looks like if you mail tonyb, he will do that for you14:19
fricklerhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115308.html14:20
sc`that's where i was leading up to :)14:31
sc`the more i keep digging into our chef-provisioning setup, the more it seems to be totally rotten. i'm thinking the pre-provisioning stuff may be able to be coopted out of the juno branch14:49
sc`test-kitchen is nowhere near where we need to be for testing the whole set en masse14:50
sc`chefdk seems to break the provisioning cookbook, and nobody wants to work on the vagrant driver14:53
sc`chefdk 1.3 that is14:54
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sc`i'm open to other suggestions :)15:03
jklaresc` i have not thought about a proper integration testing solution for multi node scenarios and chef for a while, since this seems to be completely unsupported by chef15:10
sc`jklare: their "answer" is habitat, or terraform15:10
jklaresc` these things solve other problems imho15:11
sc`that they do15:11
sc`i don't particularly support any one path, just a path forward15:12
jklaresc` +115:12
sc`chef-provisioning scratched our itch for a while, and it was grand15:12
sc`but now that's becoming a problem, soon to be liability15:12
jklaresc` maybe reducing the integration tests to a very minimal setup is a good option here15:12
sc`indeed15:13
jklaresc` i think if the setup gets small enough, we can try to go with some very simple chef-zero15:13
sc`instead of focusing on multi, focus on the micro aspect to (hopefully) weather things until zuulv315:13
sc`makes sense to me15:13
sc`multi integration feels more like boil the ocean the more i go, and zuulv3 is intended to replace most of that15:14
sc`feels like effort could be spent elsewhere15:14
jklaresc` the other question is if we need to stick with infra testing for now or just go for unit,style,lint on infra and move to a third party ci with integration15:15
sc`not much can be borrowed from other efforts, so i find myself reinventing wheels made out of mud15:15
jklaresc` :D15:16
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sc`it's shaping up like i'm going to be going to boston next month, so maybe some high bandwidth conversations can take place15:42
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Restarting Gerrit for our weekly memory leak cleanup.21:24
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