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| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Add a chart for each metric when viewing a resource in a browser https://review.openstack.org/159077 | 11:04 |
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| swamireddy_ | ildikov: I just seen the an issue with doc patch...and comments on the patch, can you pleast stop workflow and fix it?? | 11:17 |
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| ildikov | swamireddy_: hi. I corrected it, thanks | 11:22 |
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| swamireddy_ | ildikov: Cool...Thanks for quick patch...I have reviewed it.. | 11:33 |
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| ildikov | swamireddy_: cool, thanks :) | 11:34 |
| swamireddy_ | ildikov: Do you have doc.draft..... with the updated patch included? | 11:35 |
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| ildikov | swamireddy_: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/50/158250/7/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/e3d7905//publish-docs/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_telemetry-ceph-object-storage-metrics.html | 11:39 |
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| swamireddy_ | ildikov: Perfect.. Thanks | 11:58 |
| ildikov | swamireddy_: np | 11:59 |
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| linuxhermit | good morning | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: add missing objectstore entry points https://review.openstack.org/158907 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: add an option to disable non-metric meters https://review.openstack.org/156747 | 13:13 |
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| gordc | !!!!! stupid flatten_metadata in api code. | 14:45 |
| openstack | gordc: Error: "!!!!" is not a valid command. | 14:45 |
| cdent | !help | 14:45 |
| openstack | cdent: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 14:45 |
| cdent | I had no idea | 14:45 |
| gordc | hmm.. didn't know ! was a keyword | 14:45 |
| cdent | !help help | 14:46 |
| openstack | cdent: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 14:46 |
| gordc | lol | 14:46 |
| cdent | !refactor everything | 14:46 |
| openstack | cdent: Error: "refactor" is not a valid command. | 14:46 |
| cdent | bummer | 14:46 |
| gordc | too big an ask | 14:46 |
| gordc | anyone remember why we don't return a regular json for metadata? | 14:47 |
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| ildikov | gordc: I think just simply stupid metadata... | 14:48 |
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| gordc | ildikov: :( well it's json up until we return...than it's some random mess (if the json has depth greater than 2) | 14:49 |
| gordc | the keys it generates aren't right: http://paste.openstack.org/show/181915/ | 14:50 |
| ildikov | gordc: it was a big topic when I was just about to join this project | 14:50 |
| ildikov | gordc: nadya had some discussions about it on at least one meeting and there was some backward compatibility issues with it, etc. | 14:51 |
| ildikov | gordc: I'm trying to remember more details, but it was more than a year ago | 14:51 |
| gordc | "backward compatibility" on openstack makes me so angry. | 14:52 |
| * cdent gives gordc a cookie | 14:52 | |
| gordc | "backward compability" == cookie's with raisins | 14:54 |
| ildikov | gordc: there are cases, when it makes sense, even if it is annoying on the dev side :( | 14:54 |
| * gordc goes to get a coffee to go with cookie | 14:54 | |
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| ildikov | gordc: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-02-06-15.00.log.html | 14:56 |
| ildikov | gordc: from 15:37 | 14:56 |
| ildikov | gordc: I'm sorry for making you angry :( | 14:56 |
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| ildikov | gordc: that's where it all started: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17509/3 | 15:02 |
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| gordc | ildikov: what magic googling skills do you have? | 15:12 |
| ildikov | gordc: I'm usually not as lucky as with this one :) | 15:14 |
| ildikov | gordc: you know, it's all about the magic keywords ;) | 15:14 |
| cdent | gordc: of late you are the bug reporting king | 15:22 |
| gordc | ildikov: so i guess the question is how much can i fix the current metadata. | 15:23 |
| gordc | u'target.metadata: container': <--- that is definitely wrong. | 15:23 |
| gordc | cdent: i just started noticing stuff when running through the docs. | 15:23 |
| gordc | too scared to run git blame because i'm pretty sure i know who's fault they are. | 15:24 |
| ildikov | gordc: yeap, I checked the paste link you posted... | 15:24 |
| gordc | ildikov: it only seems to flatten the 1st/2nd level attributes... anything else is messed up. and the lists don't get flattened. | 15:25 |
| ildikov | gordc: git blame on the code you mean? | 15:25 |
| gordc | yeah. the bugs i open... they're usually something i broke.lol | 15:26 |
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| ildikov | gordc: don't worry, my docco baby is now 45 pages long and even with your help I'm sure that it's still full of "bugs" and missing points... | 15:27 |
| ildikov | gordc: as for the flattening mess, I usually tried to keep myself far enough from that part of the code :) | 15:28 |
| ildikov | gordc: the problem with metadata is that it has structure, special character issues, etc. and on the other hand it needs plenty of space to store it | 15:29 |
| gordc | ildikov: i want to break the flattening part... especially because i've no idea what happens once it flattens depth level 4, 5, 6, etc... | 15:29 |
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| ildikov | gordc: as for backward compatibility I wonder if anyone is using the metadata part, therefore maybe we could drop some part of it or smth like | 15:30 |
| gordc | ildikov: the metadata is just regular json up until the api, for some reason it tries to (but doesn't successfully) convert it to key value | 15:31 |
| ildikov | gordc: Ceilo now looks like a "Metrics and all corresponding trash Store as a service" | 15:31 |
| ildikov | gordc: we have now filtering and whatever for metadata IIRC | 15:32 |
| ildikov | gordc: maybe we have group by support too, but I would need to check this part of my memories | 15:33 |
| gordc | ildikov: there is filtering and groupby support | 15:33 |
| gordc | i just don't understand why we modify the output... anyone know what happens on gnocchi side when we return entities? are we flattening there too? | 15:34 |
| ildikov | gordc: yeap, you're right as for the support | 15:35 |
| gordc | so i guess the conclusion is: "write the tempest tests to fit ceilometer metadata madness" | 15:40 |
| cdent | gordc: in gnocchi metadata is strongly typed | 15:42 |
| cdent | you have to write a stevedore extension for each type of resource | 15:42 |
| gordc | cdent: we store values explicitly and toss the rest? | 15:43 |
| cdent | sort of | 15:43 |
| cdent | you register a resource as having a type and having particular attributes | 15:43 |
| cdent | then you supply meters for that resource | 15:43 |
| cdent | if you want to change the metadata you make an explicit request to do so | 15:43 |
| cdent | there's no notion of metadata with every metric | 15:44 |
| gordc | cdent: and if you get more attributes than you defined? | 15:44 |
| gordc | cdent: i think that's a lot better "no notion of metadata per sample" | 15:44 |
| * cdent looks (i'm in that code right now) | 15:44 | |
| cdent | I'm not certain but I think if you try to provide non-standard stuff it barfs. | 15:45 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool | 15:46 |
| cdent | the term "sample" is removed from gnocchi | 15:46 |
| cdent | there are meters for which you provide measures | 15:46 |
| gordc | so angry at myself for not verifying output before i wrote my tempest patch | 15:46 |
| cdent | a meter has an archive policy | 15:46 |
| gordc | and so angry that the output is what it is. | 15:47 |
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| gordc | meters are (name, type, unit)? | 15:48 |
| gordc | and entities ~= resources correct? | 15:48 |
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| cdent | a metric associates a named collection of measures with an archive policy and a resource | 15:51 |
| cdent | once that has been set up (which can be done in one step when creating the resource) you can slam a uri with measures | 15:51 |
| cdent | which are basically just a list of values | 15:51 |
| cdent | sorry, timestampe, value pairs | 15:52 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool. that's what i was thinking. | 15:52 |
| cdent | the info here is somewhat out of date in terms of specifics but conceptually mostly on: http://gnocchi.readthedocs.org/en/latest/rest.html#resources | 15:52 |
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| gordc | cdent: you thnk i should change tempest (https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_swift_telemetry_middleware.py#L79-L94) to look at 'target.metadata: container' key? | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | gordc: fyi gnocchi has dropped the entity terminology completely (replaced with "metric") | 15:56 |
| gordc | eglynn: ah got it. | 15:56 |
| gordc | that's a bit clearer now | 15:56 |
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| cdent | the change in terminology is additionally confusing for me because I never understood the ceilo terms: they are all overloaded in different contexts | 15:57 |
| gordc | cdent: sample == datapoint, meter == definition of datapoint. | 15:58 |
| cdent | gordc: I wasn't really following the metadata stuff (before leaping in about gnocchi). Are you saying the format has changed, or that you can get both? | 15:58 |
| gordc | cdent: basically this is the 'metadata' of ceilometermiddleware generate samples: http://paste.openstack.org/show/181949/ | 16:00 |
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| gordc | cdent: this is the edited 'metadata' (see resource_metadata) that the ceilometer api returns: http://paste.openstack.org/show/181915/ | 16:01 |
| ildikov | gordc: according to he code we use int the api now I guess you will need to if you don't want to change the api output | 16:01 |
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| gordc | in the tempest test i expect the stored version, but i get the latter api version. | 16:02 |
| cdent | yeah, tempest always wants the api data, so I think yeah, you're pretty much stuck | 16:03 |
| gordc | ildikov: i know i have to change tempest. but i just want to take cdents burninator role and destroy it. | 16:03 |
| cdent | I'm sure the tempest people would be _very_happy if your remove that test | 16:03 |
| cdent | they _hate_ that code | 16:03 |
| gordc | cdent: that was actually my other option i was going to propose | 16:04 |
| cdent | (because of call_until_true) | 16:04 |
| cdent | it does mean, however, that there's no much ceilo+swift testing going on anywhere (which was why it went in in the first place) | 16:04 |
| gordc | cdent: that's basically all ceilometer tempest test though. we aren't the source or the transport... just the endpoint. | 16:05 |
| ildikov | gordc: a-ha, got it :) | 16:05 |
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| cdent | there's historically been a lot of grumpiness about any tests that require the notification bus | 16:06 |
| cdent | but it's a pretty bogus concern: the bus matters we can't deny it exists | 16:06 |
| cdent | gordc: I reckon just fix it and walk away for now? | 16:07 |
| cdent | when we get a bit further along on functional testing in tree we can revamp | 16:08 |
| gordc | cdent: i guess... i just don't know how the flatten key ended up as "target.metadata: container" it just seemed to give up on flattening.lol | 16:09 |
| cdent | yeah, that part I have no clue about | 16:10 |
| cdent | you could do down that rabbit hole? | 16:10 |
| gordc | cdent: nah, maybe i'll look at it in the afternoon | 16:12 |
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| gordc | cdent: is this ready to be tested/merged? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153293 | 16:18 |
| cdent | For what it is yes. | 16:18 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool | 16:18 |
| cdent | It doesn't make any claim to being complete coverage of the alarms API, rather a basis to build from. | 16:18 |
| cdent | There's also an unresolved discussion of whether the addition of gabbi tests should mean the removal of other tests that do similar stuff. | 16:19 |
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| gordc | cdent: i was going to ask if we planned on adding it to gate. | 16:19 |
| cdent | the gabbi stuff runs during the standard python27 job | 16:20 |
| cdent | (with the mongo backend) | 16:20 |
| gordc | cdent: oh really? what's tox -egabbi? just the gabbi related stuff. | 16:21 |
| cdent | just a shortcut | 16:21 |
| cdent | for convenience | 16:21 |
| cdent | I'm using a somewhat different approach on writing the gabbi tests for gnocchi, because the api code is (a bit) more straightforward | 16:24 |
| cdent | so it's easier to use coverage data to drive where tests are missing | 16:24 |
| cdent | and the docs are more comprehensible too | 16:24 |
| gordc | cdent: can't wait until we can deprecated v2/samples/resources/meters/ | 16:25 |
| cdent | indeed | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: support time to live on event database for sql backend https://review.openstack.org/153943 | 16:31 |
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| gordc | ildikov: you might want to look at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142592/ i think you had interest in pipeline in db work | 16:48 |
| gordc | fabiog is going to give a slide on the work. | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Remove a redundant existence check in resource PATCH https://review.openstack.org/159186 | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add option to store raw notification https://review.openstack.org/153790 | 16:52 |
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| ildikov | gordc: yeap, I started to look at it earlier, but then got distracted | 16:57 |
| gordc | ildikov: that's me everyday | 16:57 |
| ildikov | gordc: TBH, I'm a huge db expert, so I thought to check back later, when others had a look too... | 16:58 |
| gordc | ildikov: cool cool. just making sure because i have no idea if the current functionality works for you or not | 17:00 |
| ildikov | gordc: I will try to take a look tomorrow | 17:01 |
| gordc | cool cool | 17:02 |
| ildikov | gordc: I do small things this week as I have sooo many other things to do and understanding that patch is not necessarily an easy and small thing :S | 17:03 |
| ildikov | gordc: ok, docco is huge amount, but not a rocket science, I don't have to start from scratch, when I get distratcted... | 17:04 |
| ildikov | gordc: anyway, I just wanted to say that thanks for the heads up :) | 17:04 |
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| gordc | ildikov: my mind is numb from reading docs. | 17:09 |
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| ildikov | gordc: I hear ya | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Cover the basic resource API with gabbi tests https://review.openstack.org/159204 | 17:39 |
| cdent | that one was hairy | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Cover the basic resource API with gabbi tests https://review.openstack.org/159204 | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: fix inline multiple assignment https://review.openstack.org/158425 | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Initial gabbi testing for alarms https://review.openstack.org/153293 | 17:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Myers proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adding Gabbi Tests to Events API https://review.openstack.org/156667 | 18:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Myers proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adding Gabbi Tests to Events API https://review.openstack.org/156667 | 19:41 |
| gordc | linuxhermit: looks fine assuming tests pass. | 19:54 |
| linuxhermit | excellent | 19:55 |
| linuxhermit | I had to fix the thing cdent mentioned | 19:56 |
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| gordc | linuxhermit: the try/except? | 20:00 |
| linuxhermit | yeah | 20:01 |
| gordc | linuxhermit: yeah, that was my only comment but he beat me to it | 20:02 |
| linuxhermit | :) | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: reorganise architecture page https://review.openstack.org/155941 | 20:27 |
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| linuxhermit | gordc did you send the elastic recheckers after me again? | 20:47 |
| gordc | linuxhermit: lol the gate gods hold grudges for a long time | 20:48 |
| linuxhermit | doh | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: create a developer section and refactor https://review.openstack.org/156413 | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: create a developer section and refactor https://review.openstack.org/156413 | 21:01 |
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| linuxhermit | finally the gate gods love me again | 22:31 |
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