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| cdent | jd__: I need to pee. | 10:53 |
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| cdent | Could you get me a bug number please. | 10:54 |
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| eglynn | jd__: another annoying memcache question ... | 13:09 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: Hi - ping | 13:09 |
| eglynn | jd__: my naive understanding was that when you spin up several memcached servers, the client should be aware of them all | 13:09 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... and use consistent hashing to decide which key is written to which server | 13:09 |
| eglynn | jd__: but I can't find any of that logic in the pymemcache client used by tooz | 13:10 |
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| eglynn | swamireddy: hey | 13:10 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: I have seen the swift-ceph-backend...and its useful only if swift + ceph. In my case - I wont be using the swift and just using the ceph as object storage | 13:10 |
| eglynn | jd__: am I looking in the wrong place, or misunderstanding how multi-server memcached should work? | 13:11 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: yeap, the swift-ceph-backend assumes you'll be using the swift API to access the data ... that's its purpose, to sit behind the swift proxy | 13:12 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: so in this case - the ceiloment meterring suing the swift-ceph-backend is not possible, as ceiloment metering should be done using the swift-proxy | 13:12 |
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| eglynn | swamireddy: yes, ceilometer swift metering only works if swift is involved | 13:12 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: we don't support native ceph metering, but it would be an interesting new feature | 13:13 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: Thats correct...But I am using the ceph (instead of swift) and use the SWIFT/S3 APIs using the radosgw | 13:14 |
| cdent | eglynn: for many of the python memcached clients doing hashed access to multiple servers is managed by another library | 13:15 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: does the radosgw expose a full swift API? | 13:15 |
| eglynn | cdent: yeap, pylibmc relies on the C-implemented libmemcached to provide the consistent hashing | 13:16 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... but I thought pymemcache was pure python? | 13:16 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: Yes, pretty much (not tested with completely ALL swift APIs) | 13:16 |
| cdent | eglynn: it is | 13:16 |
| cdent | so you'd have some other tool that you use to which you provide multiple pymemcache Client objects | 13:17 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: if it's usable with the swiftclient, and auth-able via keystone, then the swift pollster from ceilometer should be able to interact with it | 13:17 |
| cdent | basically: as far as I can tell tooz currently only supports one memcached when using memcached | 13:17 |
| eglynn | cdent: yeah, exactly | 13:17 |
| eglynn | cdent: which is potentially a problem ... solve one SPoF by creating another :( | 13:18 |
| cdent | as far as I can tell it makes no promises to the contrary | 13:18 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: however the ceilometer swift middleware (which meters API *usage* as opposed to storage footprint) would not be usable | 13:18 |
| eglynn | cdent: no such promises made by tooz or pymemcache? | 13:19 |
| cdent | tooz | 13:19 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: Auth via keystone only..not sure, swiftclient usable means? | 13:20 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: meaning that the swiftclient can successfully invoke on the radosgw to list containers and objects | 13:20 |
| cdent | s/tooz/tooz+memcache/ | 13:21 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: middleware diff. with ceph and swift, so metadata may differ and ceilometer may not understand | 13:21 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: this would effectively require that the radosgw endpoint be registered in the keystone service catalog as the objectstore endpoint | 13:21 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: that too | 13:22 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: Iam doing that only...radosgw endpoints reg. with keystone services and adding the service catalog... | 13:22 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: for ex: 6b5cb7dbe5204b0a88ba8a3789593831 | swift | object-store | Swift Service | 13:23 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: sounds like this requires some testing of the ceilometer polling | 13:23 |
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| swamireddy | eglynn: In the above line: mapped the radosgw enpoints server named as ¨swift | 13:23 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: I am ready do perform the testing, if this process works (atleast theoritically) | 13:25 |
| eglynn | swamireddy: cool, I'd be interested in hearing the outcome of that testing | 13:30 |
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| cdent | brb | 13:32 |
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| swamireddy | eglynn: Will start the testing...I have already setup the ceph and added it to keystone service list... | 13:45 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: I could able create containers etc...Now what could be done to test this...??? | 13:46 |
| swamireddy | eglynn: And also configured ,ceiloeter | 13:47 |
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| cdent | DinaBelova: from digging around in the logs it's looking like the problem with getting your turn-the-tests-back-on patchset through the gate is widespread | 13:55 |
| jd__ | eglynn: AFAIK there's no such thing of multiple memcached server in memcached itself, it's just a possible client feature | 13:55 |
| jd__ | eglynn: not something we implement in tooz clearly | 13:55 |
| jd__ | eglynn: and that'd be a tricky thing to implement (consistency, etc) | 13:56 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, yeah, it appeared several times in other changes as well | 13:56 |
| DinaBelova | I've seen that when was rechecking | 13:56 |
| cdent | and it is definitely a last 24 hours kind of thing | 13:57 |
| cdent | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwiVW5hYmxlIHRvIHJldHJpZXZlIGJyaWRnZXNcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiMTcyODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQxMjk0OTQwNDc4NH0= | 13:57 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: Hi! We catch the bug that affects CPU pollsters https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1379794, but I think it's bug closer to oslo bug, no ceilometer. | 13:59 |
| cdent | DinaBelova, caused by a backport problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1379201 | 14:00 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: May you take a look on it, when it will be comfortable for you, please ? | 14:01 |
| eglynn | ityaptin: looking | 14:05 |
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| eglynn | ityaptin: bug was caught in py26, does that mean we only see it on the stable branch? | 14:08 |
| eglynn | jd__: yep, that was my understanding also, no cross-talk or synchronization between memcached servers | 14:10 |
| eglynn | jd__: so without that client-side support in the memcache library used by tooz, we can't really describe this as a HA solution for the central agent | 14:11 |
| eglynn | (we'd be simply moving the SPoF around in the stack) | 14:11 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... so my next thought is adding such support on the tooz side, by potentially using a multi-server aware memcache client | 14:13 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yes, this his not HA, this is load balancing for the polling part only, agreed | 14:14 |
| jd__ | the HA part would come if you use ZK | 14:14 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yes, also harlowja is working on a Redis driver for tooz | 14:14 |
| jd__ | which has HA already, and clustering on the way | 14:14 |
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| ityaptin | eglynn: we trying to reproduce it only at juno rc1 + centos yet. | 14:15 |
| eglynn | jd__: a-ha, interesting, thanks for the heads-up on that | 14:15 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: I didn't think it through but from the top of my head, memcached with some HA in client side support is not going to be very solid, it's a potential for a lot of desync | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add oslo.db to config generator https://review.openstack.org/127543 | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add oslo.db to config generator https://review.openstack.org/127543 | 14:28 |
| jd__ | eglynn: dunnow when final is out, but ^ could be included un J | 14:28 |
| jd__ | s/un/in/ | 14:28 |
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| eglynn | jd__: we'd need an RC3 ... the plan was to base final on RC2 unless there was a show-stopper | 14:29 |
| jd__ | your call | 14:29 |
| jd__ | it can probably wait for 2014.2.1 | 14:30 |
| jd__ | but it's something packagers will need I guess | 14:30 |
| jd__ | I just wrote it for zigo :) | 14:30 |
| zigo | Yeah, I'm trying it... | 14:30 |
| zigo | It will be in my Debian package anyway. | 14:30 |
| jd__ | yeah but I want great Red Hat packages too | 14:33 |
| jd__ | *grin* | 14:34 |
| zigo | jd__: It didn't work for me... :( | 14:35 |
| eglynn | jd__: well, the Red Hat packages can carry extra patches | 14:36 |
| zigo | jd__: I still get no connection= in the [database] section. | 14:36 |
| eglynn | jd__: (i.e. in addition to the upstream final tag) | 14:36 |
| jd__ | eglynn: sure :) | 14:37 |
| jd__ | zigo: ah, I've it here, let me double check | 14:38 |
| zigo | jd__: When I try to manually run the configuration generator, I get: http://paste.openstack.org/show/120181/ | 14:38 |
| zigo | Any idea why? | 14:38 |
| zigo | Funny it seems to work when building the package. | 14:38 |
| jd__ | missing dependency I guess | 14:38 |
| jd__ | hum indeed my patch is not enough | 14:39 |
| zigo | When I do: python -c 'import ceilometer.alarm.service' | 14:39 |
| * jd__ tries another approach | 14:39 | |
| zigo | I get: RuntimeError: No ceilometer.alarm.notifier extensions found | 14:40 |
| zigo | Maybe that's fixed in RC2 ? | 14:40 |
| zigo | I'm still using the RC1 ... | 14:40 |
| gordc | zigo: i don't think anything in RC2 fixed that. | 14:40 |
| zigo | k | 14:40 |
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| jd__ | zigo: that's because you didn't run setup.py install | 14:41 |
| zigo | jd__: Ah, probably ... :) | 14:41 |
| zigo | Trying again then. | 14:41 |
| jd__ | zigo: patch updated \o/ | 14:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add oslo.db to config generator https://review.openstack.org/127543 | 14:41 |
| gordc | jd__: i guess i need to update my oslo-generator patch to include oslo.db as well | 14:42 |
| jd__ | gordc: yay | 14:42 |
| zigo | jd__: I like the 1 char fixes ! :) | 14:42 |
| gordc | jd__: ... fun | 14:43 |
| zigo | jd__: | 14:43 |
| zigo | PYTHONPATH=. bash tools/config/generate_sample.sh -b . -p ceilometer -o /home/zigo/sources/openstack/juno/ceilometer/build-area/ceilometer-2014.2~rc1/debian/ceilometer-common/usr/share/ceilometer-common | 14:43 |
| zigo | tools/config/oslo.config.generator.rc: line 1: oslo.db: command not found | 14:43 |
| zigo | jd__: So obviously not working ... | 14:44 |
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| jd__ | gordc: hammer of thor! | 14:44 |
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| zigo | Oh, maybe my bad, hang on. | 14:44 |
| jd__ | zigo: bash ? :) | 14:44 |
| zigo | No, forgot the quotes ... :) | 14:44 |
| gordc | jd__: lol i didn't want to throw it out htere... but if i get a conflict... please refer to that comment. | 14:44 |
| jd__ | shellshock in the config generator ! | 14:44 |
| zigo | (I wrote directly in the debian/patches/*.patch file ...) | 14:45 |
| zigo | jd__: Working this time ! Thanks ! :) | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: switch to oslo-config-generator https://review.openstack.org/126956 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: sync and clean up oslo https://review.openstack.org/126724 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a tool to inspect coordination groups https://review.openstack.org/127271 | 15:11 |
| cdent | jd__: did you have any further comments on my responses to ^ | 15:14 |
| jd__ | cdent: no I get the spirit, I think we need this tool so go ahead and improve would be my comment :) | 15:15 |
| cdent | do you still think it should be a console script? | 15:15 |
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| jd__ | cdent: yeah everything should be a console script :) | 15:18 |
| jd__ | easier for distribution etc | 15:18 |
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| cdent | that's the core of the question then: I hadn't really intended it for distribution, but if it should be, no worries, will make it so | 15:18 |
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| jd__ | cdent: yes I think it's important to provide tools for operator to potentially debug and inspect this | 15:19 |
| cdent | ✔ | 15:19 |
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| * gordc prefers buttons... searches for windows install disk | 15:22 | |
| * cdent thought gordc preferred hammers | 15:23 | |
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| gordc | cdent: i use hammers when the buttons don't work. | 15:24 |
| cdent | gordc: on the skip telemetry test patchset, there is a bug in the kernel on the ubuntu nodes in the nodepool | 15:26 |
| cdent | but they've made a change to the image that ought to fix it | 15:26 |
| cdent | but presumably it will take a while to filter through | 15:26 |
| cdent | openvs something or other is borked | 15:27 |
| cdent | NEEDS HAMMER | 15:27 |
| gordc | cdent: ah i see.. yeah i figured it'd take a while to get fixed in neutron. | 15:27 |
| cdent | that most recent recheck is to see if the filtering through has made it | 15:27 |
| cdent | evidently it will be some time | 15:28 |
| gordc | we'll see if it passed. i just don't want the qa folks to say 'stop rechecking!' although i guess you're our link now :) | 15:28 |
| cdent | i'll endeavor to keep tabs on it | 15:28 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool. would be great to get that in | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a console-script to inspect coordination groups https://review.openstack.org/127271 | 15:36 |
| cdent | ^ now in console-script form | 15:36 |
| nealph | cdent: are you by chance referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1379201 | 15:36 |
| nealph | cdent: or something else :( | 15:37 |
| cdent | nealph: yes, that | 15:37 |
| nealph | cdent: you know it's a *real* bug when you can hardly understand the title. :\ | 15:38 |
| cdent | ha! | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: allow to use timespan to define archive policy https://review.openstack.org/126140 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: rest: granularity is also a Timespan https://review.openstack.org/126269 | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor hbase storage code https://review.openstack.org/127591 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add support for selectable granularity https://review.openstack.org/103435 | 16:29 |
| gordc | random q: is there a test script to generate events and not meters or did i just dream this up? | 16:33 |
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| jd__ | gordc: there is/was in tools | 16:41 |
| gordc | jd__: i see make_test_data.. but that seems to explicitly call record_metering_data | 16:42 |
| jd__ | it does indeed | 16:42 |
| jd__ | that's all we got | 16:42 |
| jd__ | oh there's also ceilometer-send-sample or the like | 16:42 |
| gordc | i could've sworn i used one in the past... or maybe i just sat around and let devstack generate a few thousand evnts | 16:42 |
| gordc | jd__: where's send-sample? | 16:43 |
| jd__ | grep for it, it's a console script | 16:43 |
| jd__ | you could hack a ceilometer-send-event too | 16:43 |
| gordc | jd__: yeah... i was probably just going to modify existing thing to point to events. wanted to check before i started. | 16:44 |
| gordc | jd__: screw it... lunchtime. | 16:45 |
| jd__ | gordc: bon app | 16:45 |
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| cdent | it looks like the openvswitch fix has made it through so I've done a recheck on the test-skip revert | 17:52 |
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| cdent | hmm, that may have been premature, we shall see | 18:18 |
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| cdent | progress | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | nellysmitt proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Edit documentation for docs.opentack.org/developer/ceilometer. Add missed steps in installation for running tests (contributing/source.rst) https://review.openstack.org/127634 | 19:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor hbase storage code https://review.openstack.org/127591 | 20:27 |
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| amalagon | hey sileht, you around? I'me having some trouble with tox and gnocchii, and wanted to ask if you'd ever encountered a " 'run_subunit_content' referenced before assignment" error when using tox in gnocchi | 21:11 |
| gordc | amalagon: he's on holiday i believe (and he's based in Paris). you might need to wait until tuesday to reach him. | 21:13 |
| amalagon | gordc: ah thanks for letting me know | 21:14 |
| gordc | np | 21:14 |
| gordc | i should say France (because he's not actually in paris).. but you get the idea :) | 21:14 |
| amalagon | gordc: yeah, I forgot he was based in France; timezones... | 21:17 |
| gordc | :) | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor hbase storage code https://review.openstack.org/127591 | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add support for selectable granularity https://review.openstack.org/103435 | 21:59 |
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