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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add metadata query validation limitation https://review.openstack.org/61847 | 03:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/62808 | 06:04 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Ensure that the user/project exist on alarm update https://review.openstack.org/62021 | 07:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add resource loader support https://review.openstack.org/58747 | 08:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Sync config generator from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/62821 | 08:19 |
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nprivalova | hi guys! Ceilometer+Horizon expert, I really need your help. I want to know why there is only one tab in latest Havana vs 3 tabs in stable Havana. Is it because something worked incorrect or just because of refactoring? Please advice | 09:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Ala Rezmerita proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Change endpoint_type parameter https://review.openstack.org/59669 | 10:51 |
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Alexei_987 | jd__: ping | 11:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Reuse BaseManager from oslo https://review.openstack.org/62856 | 11:47 |
openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix work of udp publisher https://review.openstack.org/62656 | 12:04 |
eglynn | ick ... this one is nasty https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1262190 :( | 12:33 |
eglynn | methinks should follow across the board the approach to user metadata in the compute pollsters | 12:34 |
eglynn | (not sure though about the impact on existing datastores ...) | 12:34 |
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nprivalova | eglynn, such a pretty bug. One more origin is direct post() from users | 13:42 |
nprivalova | eglynn, besides the stories you described, there is a flattening mechanism for metadata, just to remind you. And my fix for HBase shows that there is no common decision about the question 'how metadata should be flattened'. In current impl lists and sets just skipped | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Use Resource() class from common Oslo code https://review.openstack.org/62883 | 13:54 |
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nprivalova | thomasem, hi! do you still need my second :)? I was afk when you ping me yesterday | 14:11 |
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nprivalova | eglynn, such a pretty bug. One more origin is direct post() from users. Besides the stories you've described, there is a flattening mechanism for metadata, just to remind you. And my fix for HBase shows that there is no common decision about the question 'how metadata should be flattened'. In current impl lists and sets just skipped | 14:38 |
eglynn | nprivalova: yep, metadata handling is extremely inconsistent currently, definitely needs a serious re-visit | 14:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a wadl target to the documentation https://review.openstack.org/57574 | 14:47 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: ping again | 14:49 |
Alexei_987 | eglynn: Hi, do you know what's happening with this blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/central-agent-improvement ? | 14:53 |
Alexei_987 | eglynn: I would like to stole it from jd__ :) | 14:53 |
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jd__ | Alexei_987: I don't think you can :) | 14:55 |
jd__ | what do you want to do? this depends mainly on tooz | 14:55 |
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eglynn | Alexei_987: wot he said :) | 15:02 |
eglynn | jd__: BTW what's the rough time horizon for Tooz? | 15:02 |
jd__ | eglynn: there's a first patch under review almost done | 15:03 |
jd__ | if you missed it | 15:03 |
jd__ | and yassine's working on it almost fulltime | 15:03 |
eglynn | jd__: excellent! | 15:03 |
jd__ | so I'm waiting a bit for it to have at least 2 backends and to stop having, how do you say, teething trouble you know | 15:05 |
jd__ | and I'll probably start digging into Taskflow and tooz at some point | 15:05 |
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openstackgerrit | John Herndon proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Support the Event API https://review.openstack.org/54582 | 15:26 |
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herndon | nprivalova, did thomasem get back to you? we wanted to ask what you know about get vs. get_all in the event api branch | 15:27 |
nprivalova | herndon, ah I see | 15:27 |
herndon | did you see my comment on that patch? | 15:27 |
herndon | get_all breaks the subcontroller for some reason. | 15:28 |
nprivalova | herndon, sorry, I missed that. Will check now, 1 sec | 15:28 |
herndon | ok, cool. | 15:28 |
thomasem | Hey herndon, nprivalova: sorry I'm in a meeting right now. | 15:30 |
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nprivalova | thomasem, herndon, I asked to rename just because in all other controllers there is no methods get(), only get_all. But if there are so much problems I think I can forget about my comment :) But anyway, it's interesting why it fails now. I see only one difference: @requires_admin annotation | 15:38 |
nprivalova | SergeyLukjanov, ping | 15:39 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, I'm here | 15:39 |
SergeyLukjanov | what's up? | 15:39 |
nprivalova | SergeyLukjanov, I know you've started to work with pecan, could you please take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40248/23/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py | 15:40 |
nprivalova | SergeyLukjanov, line 1771 | 15:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, not yet really | 15:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, but I'll take a look on it sure | 15:42 |
nprivalova | SergeyLukjanov, ah, ok, sorry | 15:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, you can ask NikitaKonovalov to take a look too | 15:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, he's already started investigating it to use in storyboard | 15:42 |
nprivalova | SergeyLukjanov, ok, I will. thanks! | 15:43 |
SergeyLukjanov | nprivalova, np | 15:43 |
nprivalova | thomasem, herndon, it's interesting that 'get' and 'get_all' are processed by the same code in pecan/rest.py: controller = self._find_controller('get_all', 'get') | 15:47 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: sorry I was busy | 15:49 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: can we chat now? | 15:49 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: let's try that | 15:49 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I would like to know more about this blueprint and take part in implementation | 15:50 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: can we have a call in hangout? | 15:50 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: cause I would like to create a design draft to make it more clear where I can help | 15:51 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: sorry got interrupted | 15:55 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: so what about a short hangout call? | 15:56 |
jd__ | yeah sorry, I can't hangout today unfortunately | 15:56 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: ok :) text only mode enabled | 15:56 |
jd__ | I don't think there's a lot on that blueprint as it's basically porting Ceilometer agents to taskflow and tooz | 15:57 |
jd__ | so it's a bit soon to draft anything | 15:57 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: hm.. maybe I didn't understand it completely | 15:57 |
jd__ | I don't blame you for that :) | 15:57 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: 1st question do we need to add HA functionality? or scalability? | 15:57 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: cause it's not clear from etherpad | 15:58 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: yeah that's the point of the blueprint, we're going to leverage tooz and Taskflow to do that | 15:58 |
Alexei_987 | do what? | 15:58 |
Alexei_987 | it's a different things HA is not scalability | 15:59 |
jd__ | do do task distribution and HA | 15:59 |
Alexei_987 | hm.. | 15:59 |
Alexei_987 | not sure that we can achieve both goals at the same time with some 3rd party tool | 15:59 |
jd__ | well we'll see, we know that Taskflow is not going to solve all the issues, and tooz neither, we need both | 16:00 |
jd__ | for now tooz's not ready for prime time, so wait'n see | 16:00 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: if we mean HA it means that ceilometer should not have a Single Point of Failure. It means that all services should be HA. Am I right? | 16:00 |
sayali | can somebody look into this please http://paste.openstack.org/show/55327/ | 16:00 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: yes that's the plan | 16:00 |
sayali | I get that error when i try to run Devstack on my machine | 16:00 |
sayali | I think it is a ceilometer issue. | 16:01 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: so are we going to implement HA functionality for every service one by one? or for all of them together? | 16:01 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I think that it would be usefull to have/create a doc/diagram describing existing services and data flow. What do you think? | 16:04 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: we have a general flow description on wiki | 16:05 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: and we could use it as base and add some implementation details (service classes, etc.) | 16:05 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: we're going to leverage tooz for HA basically | 16:05 |
herndon | nprivalova: (sorry, stepped away) - yeah, wsme doesn't play nice with other decorators, that could have something to do with it. | 16:06 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: I don't think I'll have time to write more documentation about that for now, but if you feel like it deserves more, go ahead | 16:06 |
Alexei_987 | and what is tooz actually? | 16:07 |
sayali | eglynn: hey | 16:08 |
eglynn | Alexei_987: group co-ord framework, see https://review.openstack.org/60499 | 16:09 |
eglynn | sayali: hi | 16:09 |
sayali | eglynn: I was running Devstack on my machine.It was working fine but now when i do stack.sh i get this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/55327/ | 16:11 |
sayali | eglynn: have any fix for it? | 16:11 |
sayali | eglynn: I am able to access my dashboard but the volumes are unavailable on it and ceilometer doesnt work | 16:11 |
Alexei_987 | eglynn: thanks I'll take a look | 16:11 |
sayali | eglynn: not sure if this is the same thing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22530/ | 16:12 |
eglynn | sayali: yeah it certainly looks like it | 16:13 |
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eglynn | sayali: I try to treat my devstack like cattle | 16:13 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: why don't we use the same approach that oslo uses? | 16:13 |
eglynn | sayali: ... as opposed to beloved pets | 16:14 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: e.g. implement HA in ceilometer and extract common code to tooz | 16:14 |
sayali | eglynn: so u dont like treating it well?:D | 16:14 |
eglynn | sayali: ... so any probs such as this I take as a signal that my devstack has gone too stale, out-lived it's usefulness, time to shoot it in the head ;) | 16:15 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: tooz is a group membership library | 16:15 |
eglynn | sayali: ... basically what I'm saying is, don't bother buring time trying to keep an old devstack limping along | 16:15 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: we don't go for Oslo because we are doing right engineering, we build libraries and we leverage them | 16:15 |
eglynn | sayali: ... as the goalposts shift with changing dependencies etc. | 16:15 |
eglynn | sayali: ... easier to just get into the habit of spining up a completely fresh devstack regularly | 16:16 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: :-D ok | 16:16 |
jd__ | :-) | 16:16 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: check tooz on stackforge :) | 16:16 |
sayali | eglynn: I am not working on a VM anymore :( | 16:16 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I'm reading it now but it seems quite empty :) | 16:17 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: check on Gerrit | 16:17 |
eglynn | sayali: keeping things encapsulated in a VM really is the way to go | 16:17 |
eglynn | sayali: ... but in any case, you could try running unstack.sh to tear down the old, then re-run stack.sh | 16:17 |
sayali | eglynn: I did try that several times. .dint work out. | 16:18 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: heartbeat service is missing :) | 16:19 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: and it should have lifecycle events system of some sort | 16:20 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: that's what group membership is about actually | 16:22 |
eglynn | sayali: anything strange or old in your requirements.txt ? | 16:22 |
eglynn | sayali: ... curently we require >=1.2.0 | 16:22 |
eglynn | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/requirements.txt#L15 | 16:22 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: and do we have a doc somewhere describing what we'll have in tooz? | 16:23 |
eglynn | sayali: ... whereas 1.2.1 has been around on pypi since 2013-09-26: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.config/1.2.1 | 16:23 |
eglynn | sayali: ... that is to say, has been around for ages | 16:23 |
eglynn | sayali: ... the Heat scenario is different as they're pulling down a literal tarball IIUC | 16:24 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I've found it https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/blueprints/service-sync thanks | 16:24 |
eglynn | sayali: ... advice going forward though, shift back to working with VMs | 16:25 |
eglynn | sayali: ... much more productive to have a completely disposable dev env I find | 16:25 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: sorry I somehow thought you found it earlier :) | 16:25 |
sayali | eglynn: requirement.txt looks fine | 16:26 |
eglynn | sayali: ... is oslo.config pip install'd? | 16:28 |
sayali | eglynn: alright will shift to VMs again! | 16:28 |
eglynn | sayali: ... pip freeze | grep oslo.config | 16:28 |
sayali | eglynn: yes i did | 16:28 |
sayali | eglynn: its there | 16:28 |
eglynn | sayali: that would be wise | 16:28 |
eglynn | sayali: ... save yourself a lot of bother in the long run | 16:28 |
sayali | eglynn: cool. i thought it would help if i keep debugging these issues but i think i should focus on the other work right now :D | 16:29 |
herndon | question - why is the py33 test running for the python-ceilometer client repo, and do I need to make it pass? jenkins +1'd my review even though py33 failed. | 16:29 |
thomasem | herndon, nprivalova okay, done with my meeting. | 16:31 |
eglynn | sayali: ... yep, openstack is full of rabbit holes that will burn all your time if descend into them ;) | 16:33 |
eglynn | sayali: ... best to keep focussed on your main goal | 16:33 |
sayali | eglynn: hahaha ok:D | 16:34 |
sayali | eglynn: yes i have already wasted quite some time on this:/ | 16:34 |
herndon | thomasem: basically, what we decided yesterday still stands. I think we're ok using get, maybe should file a bug against pecan for get_all breaking sub controllers, I'll look into doing that | 16:36 |
thomasem | herndon, Okey dokey. Yeah, I don't see it obstructing functionality, maybe warranting a comment about it or something. | 16:36 |
thomasem | :) | 16:36 |
herndon | you mean update my patch again??? | 16:37 |
herndon | patchset #23? | 16:37 |
thomasem | Nah | 16:37 |
thomasem | not unless you have some other update | 16:37 |
thomasem | No reason to go through gate again over that. :) | 16:38 |
thomasem | Or jenkins | 16:38 |
thomasem | guess it hasn't gone through gate yet | 16:38 |
thomasem | :P | 16:38 |
herndon | hm, I have to rebase anyway | 16:45 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Convert event timestamp to PrecisionTimestamp https://review.openstack.org/62435 | 17:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: storage: factorize not implemented methods https://review.openstack.org/62636 | 18:24 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Sync config generator from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/62821 | 18:26 |
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Alexei_987 | jd__: sorry for bother you again. can you help me out a little? | 18:48 |
jd__ | Alexei_987: shoot | 18:49 |
Alexei_987 | http://www.plantuml.com:80/plantuml/img/ZP71RiCW38RlF8MLEoymLNc97giUNEArbW0pXqIhfhtxJDjDwzPKuS01ll-pCK5IaKovGXU8eoIgf7uuZESSEjXing1SQj-xy12azy9AkeB4Y9eypHWdhABTKonBvLSshtDP1Z92OgJGSl3XmDRZz2_C6YATEP1rr0ANRS2A1nnDk3K8ZzI1-_ofOJR5wEqur-TrBeY_1UvhcIv4cGReiipeMtwgj4htZVxHNRjBc0rB3Motf6kKrpa6h2nvmOk5rmaB_pFibaQo1wzyF5NVmsxfdNjuWMB_TMyfRDaMktrGezucqhFx0W00 | 18:49 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: Could you help me out to layout this properly? | 18:49 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-uml | 18:49 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I can't find out how many separate server's we actually need :) and how services should be grouped together | 18:50 |
jd__ | well there's no hard coded rules anyway | 18:50 |
jd__ | you can link dbsync to storage | 18:50 |
jd__ | and expirer too | 18:51 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: noted | 18:51 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: and what about alarm-* where do they usually live? | 18:51 |
jd__ | alarm-evaluator is going to talk to ceilometer-api | 18:53 |
jd__ | and evaluator is going to talk to alarm notifier | 18:53 |
jd__ | (hint: put arrows there :) | 18:53 |
jd__ | agent-central talks to collector through RPC | 18:53 |
jd__ | same thing for agent-notification | 18:53 |
jd__ | and collector stores things into DB | 18:54 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: great.. thanks :) | 18:54 |
Alexei_987 | jd__: I'll show you the final version tommorrow :) | 18:54 |
jd__ | cool | 18:54 |
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herndon | is there a standard diagramming tool I should use to draw block diagrams for blueprints? | 19:40 |
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jd__ | herndon: not really, whatever fits for you? | 19:49 |
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