Wednesday, 2016-07-20

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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Fix my name in assets file  https://review.openstack.org/34479712:27
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Update k8s pod app due to new FQN  https://review.openstack.org/34483013:18
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Update Docker Intarface Library due to new fqn  https://review.openstack.org/34483713:29
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Update kubernetes cluster app  https://review.openstack.org/34486514:23
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Update kubernetes cluster app  https://review.openstack.org/34486514:25
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/app-catalog: Update Docker Interfaces library due to new fqn  https://review.openstack.org/34483714:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/app-catalog: Fix my name in assets file  https://review.openstack.org/34479718:52
openstackgerritSergey Skripnick proposed openstack/app-catalog: [wip] Switch UI to glare 1.0 API  https://review.openstack.org/34443619:39
openstackgerritSergey Skripnick proposed openstack/app-catalog: [wip] Glare v1.0 artifact types and service proxy  https://review.openstack.org/33763319:39
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kfox1111wow... the what is an app email...23:36
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docaedo:) one consistent thing in the word of OpenStack is that nobody agrees on what an app is23:39
kfox1111I'm getting burned out in having hard conversations this week. :/23:39
kfox1111honestly, I'm probably less then 2 weeks from chucking ~150 openstack nova nodes out the door and replacing them with k8s.23:40
kfox1111its still got some growing to do, but it is so much easier to do useful stuff with. :/23:41
kfox1111secrets, instance users, works out of the box.23:41
docaedokfox1111: well I have definitely seen other people doing what you propose - for some use cases, it's *great*23:41
kfox1111automatic rolling upgrades, works. self healing, there. has a majority of the features of barbican,nova,lbaas,cinder,heat, plus some, in about the same effort as standing up just nova. :/23:42
kfox1111once it gains multitenanancy (1 to 2 years out I think), then openstack's in real trouble outside of telco's and folks wanting to replace vmware. :/23:43
docaedobut but but there's no Horizon! beat THAT!23:43
kfox1111oh. that comes out of the box.23:43
kfox1111oh, and so does designate.23:43
docaedo:P23:43
kfox1111seriosuly, all the stuff I'd talked about with using openstack to progresively enhance openstack so its easier to expand?23:44
kfox1111they do that.23:44
kfox1111their dashboard is just a regular k8s service that uses service users to talk back to itself.23:44
kfox1111same with dns. scaled out by kubernetes. progressive enhancement.23:44
kfox1111you can even use the eqiv of just nova-compute to deploy the api servers by just droping a heat like template in /etc/kubernetes/manifests and it takes care of the care and feeding.23:45
docaedowow pretty nice - is multi-tenancy that far out?23:46
kfox1111and openstack's so mired in politics and governence issues. :/23:46
kfox1111I'm guessing it will be sooner in prototypes of multitenancy.23:46
kfox1111I know sites like ebay have prototypes of multitenancy running today.23:46
kfox1111but havent' shared too much code yet.23:46
kfox1111and this... https://github.com/kubernetes/helm23:47
kfox1111they are fairly far along with a distributed app catalog for cloud scaled apps, similar in design to yum/apt.23:47
docaedonice - what's the contribution model like for helm charts?23:49
kfox1111you stand up a webserver, you throw your charts there, and you ask folks to add your repo, ala apt-repo add23:50
kfox1111or you contribute to a more specific currated pool, like github.com/kubernetes/charts (just starting up)23:50
docaedogot it, cool23:51
kfox1111the cognative dissonence here is hard to deal with. I'm really excided for k8s and I'm really depressed over how stalled openstack has become.23:52
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kfox1111I'm working on getting k8s talking to keystone, and adding some very basic tenancy stuff so it can be used soon in that role.23:54
docaedonice, are people receptive to that at least?23:55
kfox1111yeah. pretty much. still debating a bit if its in tree or out of tree as a web hook.23:56
kfox1111I just got this through: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311189/23:57
kfox1111to be able to do a simple horizon plugin that can interact with k8s.23:57
kfox1111once it has keystone token support.23:57
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kfox1111and I've been working with the kolla-kubernetes team to make an operator friendly openstack distro.23:58
kfox1111It would be really nice to use k8s to deploy/manage openstack. as its so painful without it. :/23:58

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