Thursday, 2016-05-05

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kfox1111I really dislike the definition of app the app ecosystem is throwing about. :/00:22
docaedoit's the app that exists right now though - anything else is basically a vision right now :)00:23
kfox1111no, the issue is, no one but a developer of core openstack services will see "openstack application" and think "program that talks to openstack via its api".00:25
kfox1111people will see "openstack application" and think "mobile application" something I install and run on my mobile/openstack.00:26
kfox1111heck, that's the exact definition the community app catalog has been using for over a year....00:28
kfox1111we don't store programs that talk to the openstack api, we store stuff that runs in openstack.00:28
kfox1111its kind of in the same vain as several projects using "app catalog" to mean different things. now we have all of those using one definition, and a workgroup using a totally different definition.00:29
kfox1111thats really hard on users. :/00:29
kfox1111the community app catalog is something that stores non "openstack applications"... that just doesn't work.00:31
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docaedoto be fair, the community app catalog started from day one intending to host "things that run on openstack" and that was never limited to things that talks to openstack APIs00:33
docaedoto limit it to things that talk to APIs would severely limit what it would contain - I'm all for pushing in this space and getting more people to develop the things that fit that definition though00:34
docaedo(afk for a bit, but would love to continue the conversation :) )00:34
kfox1111I'm too. but I'm very frustrated that people keep sqautting on the same terms over and over with different meanings making for a terrible user experience.00:35
kfox1111we finally got one thing streightened out, and now there's yet another one.00:35
kfox1111gota head out. talk to you later. :)00:36
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docaedoMeeting time (though I can imagine might be low attendance today...)17:02
docaedo#openstack-meeting-3 if you're interested17:02
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* kfox1111 is getting more and more frustrated at openstack's dysfunctional bureaucracy/politics.17:28
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