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| openstackgerrit | Paul Van Eck proposed openstack/python-appcatalogclient: Import code for basic functionality https://review.openstack.org/303884 | 03:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Van Eck proposed openstack/python-appcatalogclient: Import code for basic functionality https://review.openstack.org/303884 | 03:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-appcatalogclient: Import code for basic functionality https://review.openstack.org/303884 | 03:18 |
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| kfox1111 | docaedo: see what I mean baout the naming confustion? Its bad when the user-committee can't even get it right. :/ | 16:12 |
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| kfox1111 | docaedo: tosca looks good. want me to workflow it too? | 19:13 |
| docaedo | kfox1111: that's be great, thank! | 19:13 |
| kfox1111 | done. :) | 19:14 |
| docaedo | re: naming confusion, I don't think that's even the issue here with that thread - I think it's a total disconnect between target audience. I'm thinking "apps are good for end-users of openstack public clouds" | 19:14 |
| docaedo | the product team is (as far as I can tell) very focused on enterprise stuff, and building clouds for specific workloads | 19:14 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. but still, folks are confusing murano and us all the time. :/ | 19:15 |
| kfox1111 | unrelated, have you been following the "One Platform - Containers/Bare Metal" thread? kind of interesting. | 19:16 |
| docaedo | Actually I think in the context of that email, he's just thinking "how can this workload specific app be packaged" | 19:16 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. could be. | 19:16 |
| docaedo | Yeah, been following and it's interesting alright | 19:16 |
| kfox1111 | I think that thread does have app catalog ramifications. | 19:16 |
| kfox1111 | specifically the most recent response I sent out. | 19:16 |
| kfox1111 | The advanced services are once again going to hit the same issues the app catalog is having. we want an api to talk to the orchestration system generically the same way as heat. | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/app-catalog: TOSCA web changes https://review.openstack.org/295376 | 19:17 |
| docaedo | haven't got to that yet, just about to step away and grab some lunch before a 1pm meeting, but I'll read it as soon as I get back with some food :) | 19:17 |
| kfox1111 | kk. | 19:17 |
| kfox1111 | tosca changes are live. :) | 19:27 |
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| docaedo | I'm happy to see the TOSCA stuff up there, hopefully we'll get a few templates added before the summit | 20:32 |
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| kfox1111 | docaedo: https://robhirschfeld.com/2016/04/11/one-openstack-many-providers/ | 20:35 |
| docaedo | apparently the first interop challenge is spelling interop... | 20:36 |
| * kfox1111 chuckles | 20:36 | |
| kfox1111 | "That creates a difficult conundrum: without common standards, there’s no market and OpenStack will simply become vertical vendor islands with limited reach. Success requires putting shared interests ahead of product. " | 20:38 |
| kfox1111 | that. | 20:38 |
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| docaedo | yeah that's one of there reasons I'm getting involved with defcore and refstack now (and user committee, and harassing foundation folk more often too) | 20:41 |
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| docaedo | in hopes of helping interop effort, and countering some of the influence we see from .. cloud vendors who have their business interests at heart way over openstack | 20:42 |
| kfox1111 | +1. I need to get more involved there too. | 20:42 |
| docaedo | good idea! | 20:45 |
| docaedo | I'm also going to try hard to be involved in more working groups, and start connecting things that seem to be disconnected | 20:45 |
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| docaedo | at least around apps, and users - we DEFINITELY as a community lack common definitions of our audience/users but good work happening on the user stories front at least | 20:49 |
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| kfox1111 | +1. | 22:27 |
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| kfox1111 | docaedo: https://github.com/kubespray/kpm | 23:58 |
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