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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack/app-catalog: Add link and info for app-catalog-ui horizon plugin https://review.openstack.org/237343 | 01:08 |
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| kfox1111 | arg.... css makes some things that should be easy, really hard. :/ | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | AAARGGG CSSSS!!! KAAAHHHNNNN!!!! :) | 17:26 |
| docaedo | haha | 17:29 |
| docaedo | Every now and then I edge into CSS and try to do something, and then get really frustrated and usually give up | 17:29 |
| kfox1111 | some days,, I wish we could go back to tables. :/ | 17:30 |
| kfox1111 | I could make them look right consistently. :/ | 17:30 |
| kfox1111 | I got the website to look like this: http://efox.cc/temp/app-catalog-tab.png | 17:30 |
| kfox1111 | but it fails really badly if you resize. :/ | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | and seems to only render in firefox. :/ | 17:31 |
| docaedo | oh wow that looks really great! just imagine if it rendered in chrome and you could resize :D | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | and, out of time to work on it. :/ | 17:31 |
| kfox1111 | I'll +2 your patch as is. :/ | 17:32 |
| kfox1111 | maybe you could make one of those gray boxes around it at least, so it stands out a little? | 17:32 |
| docaedo | we'll consider my patch purely temporary | 17:32 |
| docaedo | I'll see if I can mess around with it too today, maybe can so something like that to make it stand out more | 17:33 |
| kfox1111 | ok. cool. thanks. | 17:35 |
| kfox1111 | looking at the image, maybe we just slide the tab streight down to the left of the text? | 17:36 |
| kfox1111 | then it would leave the icons across the top alone. | 17:36 |
| docaedo | Yeah I like the plugin icon - if you moved that down and just had a gray rectangle with that icon all the way on the left, and the text to the right of it, I think it would look good | 17:38 |
| docaedo | but somehow I'm sure CSS will thwart your attempts :D | 17:39 |
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| kfox1111 | yup. css still making me grumpy... | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Fox proposed openstack/app-catalog: Add link and info for app-catalog-ui horizon plugin https://review.openstack.org/237343 | 19:33 |
| kfox1111 | close enough for now.... | 19:33 |
| kfox1111 | valigning is still stupid. :/ | 19:34 |
| docaedo | looks good in ff and chrome for me, though the text is swimming in all that space in the grey box - maybe make it a smidge bigger (I'm playing around with it right now) .. much better than the original PR! | 19:42 |
| docaedo | BTW I'm updating the wiki today as well, with stuff about app-catalog-ui | 19:43 |
| kfox1111 | cool. thanks. | 19:43 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: kfox1111: I'd love to schedule a meeting with you guys on the summit — I've got a couple of ideas I'd like to discuss =) Not sure how to do that in a correct way (my 1st OS summit =)) | 19:48 |
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| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: for informal stuff, best to just try to catch up over lunch or something, and then also plan to talk about it in the work session on Thursday, that would be my suggestion | 19:50 |
| kzaitsev_mb | 1) about updating assets in the catalog. I mean that right now we have no way to update stored assets and it would be great to try and figure out how to properly do that now and how to do that later | 19:51 |
| kzaitsev_mb | 2) more murano related — would that be a good idea to make Openstack Proposal Bot or some similar bot automatically import some packages (say listed in a file or similar) from murano-apps to app-catalog? Say, per tag commit for example. | 19:54 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I'm not sure how much formal that is =) | 19:54 |
| kfox1111 | I think we should discuss further too, whether we should be in the content hosting buisness... | 19:56 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: I think they'd both be good topics to discuss in the work group session | 19:56 |
| kfox1111 | we're doing it for some things and not others. | 19:56 |
| docaedo | as for 1, by stored assets I assume you mean the stuff that's in the rackspace files object store - I completely agree that's got to be fixed | 19:56 |
| docaedo | my thinking on how to fix that is: | 19:56 |
| docaedo | implement relatively simple API that includes ownership of an asset (i.e. user x can always change things later in that asset) | 19:57 |
| docaedo | and include the ability to trigger a replacement of an asset - which would be stored in swift or rackspace files (but not manually managed - would be automated) | 19:58 |
| docaedo | BUT | 19:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: would that mean, that to upload an asset one would need to, say, create an account? sounds reasonable. | 19:58 |
| docaedo | that assumes we're still in the content hosting business, which is something worth discussing - I personally think it's a good thing to do that, as it's the expected behavior for things like this | 19:58 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: yes, account would be required to add any assets (and the account would just be the openstack ID) | 19:59 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's schedule that for a talk too, then =) | 19:59 |
| kfox1111 | so... who's paying the bill? | 19:59 |
| docaedo | these are the kind of things we can/should have on the weekly agenda to discuss too :) | 19:59 |
| kfox1111 | the foundation? | 19:59 |
| docaedo | OpenStack Foundation | 19:59 |
| docaedo | yeah | 20:00 |
| docaedo | well - TBH I think it's donated for this stuff, by rackspace now, could be other donors down the road | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 20:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so, do I mark these ideas for discussion somewhere etherpad or something or just make mental notes? | 20:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sorry, if asking dumb questions ) | 20:02 |
| kfox1111 | +1 for a summit etherpad. | 20:03 |
| docaedo | Adding that now, was meaning to do it before EOD but glad this came up - will have it on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Etherpads shortly | 20:04 |
| docaedo | and will paste etherpad link here as well momentarily | 20:05 |
| kfox1111 | cool. thx. | 20:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | thanx =) | 20:10 |
| docaedo | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-app-catalog | 20:15 |
| kfox1111 | do they only have one app for the summit this time? | 20:35 |
| docaedo | yes I believe it's all in one thing this time | 20:38 |
| kfox1111 | nice. it being split last time was kind of a pain. :) | 20:38 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | one more question — do you guys already have plans for expanding the number types of assets app catalog has? =) | 23:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Who should we target, ping, bug as potential targets for additional asstes? | 23:18 |
| docaedo | Yes, that was part of the work behind putting all asset types into one yaml (allowing any other type of asset) | 23:19 |
| docaedo | Not sure who else to ping really (will type more when I'm back at computer in a bit) | 23:20 |
| kfox1111 | solum expressed interest. I think thats possible now. | 23:36 |
| kfox1111 | One of the one's I'd really like to see is magnum. | 23:37 |
| kfox1111 | I'm sure in the next couple of months, I'll get enough time to test deploy magnum... :) | 23:37 |
| kfox1111 | I'm not sure how many other projects really need assets loaded into them through their own types. | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | sahara and trove just use glance images. | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | maybe monasca, if you can load custom plugins? | 23:38 |
| kfox1111 | designate/barbican shouldn't need any... | 23:40 |
| kfox1111 | hmm.... maybe ironic? | 23:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ironic? ) | 23:47 |
| kfox1111 | if they ship some assets (um... "The python agent" boot images", or something) that may want to be able to quickly find the newest of, and load it in? reaching a bit on that one. not sure. | 23:49 |
| kfox1111 | I went through all the current official project teams. really probably just solum at this point and maybe ironic. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | we'll see about the big tent stuff once it all floods in. | 23:50 |
| kfox1111 | I guess there's another catagory though... trove/sahara/magnum/manila, etc probably all have glance images that would be nice to have pulled into the catalog, if not there already. | 23:51 |
| docaedo | Ironic AFAIK uses glance images | 23:51 |
| kfox1111 | they use glance images for launching vm's. but I know they use a custom boot image they made to copy the image from glance to the node. | 23:52 |
| kzaitsev_mb | about magnum — wasn't the whole idea of docker images to use docker hub? | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | I'm wondering if there are other artifacts like that, that they may need help sharing. | 23:52 |
| kfox1111 | kind of? | 23:53 |
| docaedo | yeah regarding magnum I think at least for the things in dockerhub, makes no sense to duplicate them. | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | here's what I'm thinking there.... | 23:53 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, encouraging people to share images with pre-built agents sounds like a good idea | 23:53 |
| kfox1111 | docker containers can work well as "cloud apps", or not. its just a technology. | 23:53 |
| docaedo | I've been thinking a lot about how we could make the catalog useful in front of other registries (like docker), there's where I was heading when I talked about playing around with a template building wizard (i.e. a template that preps a VM for then running a cloud foundry app or docker image or something) | 23:54 |
| kfox1111 | also, we provide an interesting feature, a single interface to go look for things that will work in your cloud. | 23:54 |
| docaedo | but that approach is not useful for anything other than playing around/test drive | 23:54 |
| docaedo | agreed on it being a single interface | 23:54 |
| docaedo | that's why I am trying to figure out if there's a way that makes it easier for people to find the things in other registries as well | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. so, | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | say the repo we have now, is the repo for glance,nova,etc. | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | and docker hub is the repo for docker bits. | 23:55 |
| kfox1111 | if you did a search, and you didn't care about how the app is built, it should be able to search both repos, show you the appropriate command to run in your cloud to get it working, | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | or provide you the ui to click to just launch it in horizon. | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | if magnum is installed, it can launch the selected docker container there. | 23:56 |
| kfox1111 | if murano has a docker instance up, it can let the user run it there instead. | 23:57 |
| kfox1111 | or if none of the above, a simple heat template that just takes the docker container, and laucnhes it in a single vm. | 23:57 |
| kfox1111 | this will allow us to build up the ratings/comments on particular docker containers and other things also, that are good/not so good, so other users benifit from that too. | 23:58 |
| kfox1111 | and ideally, once we start tagging resources, maybe we can fill in (or have users fill in) some of the missing data that the docker hub doesn't provide. | 23:58 |
| kfox1111 | (Is a docker container statful or stateless, what happens when you delete the container). | 23:59 |
| kfox1111 | also, something else to consider. | 23:59 |
| kfox1111 | docker itself is just kind of a low level plumbing thing. by itself its not terribly useful. | 23:59 |
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