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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: that's just how unittest wants the arguments | 01:14 |
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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: testr just uses that to appropriately print the results. unittest.TestCase.assertEqual should always be passed as expected, actual | 01:15 |
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| elmiko | sigmavirus24: thanks for the response, i ended up looking at the testtools.TestCase.assertEqual source | 13:03 |
| elmiko | it calls out the variables as (expected, observed) | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/api-wg: Metadata guidelines document https://review.openstack.org/141229 | 15:28 |
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| etoews | looks like there's support across the board for json in the api wg repo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167869/ | 16:45 |
| etoews | considering it's not a guideline i think it's good to merge. | 16:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | agreed etoews | 16:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | who are our cores again? | 16:49 |
| etoews | me, jaypipes, and cyeoh | 16:49 |
| etoews | this is a rare case where i'm okay with a self merge | 16:50 |
| etoews | i gotta ping those 2 and get them in here. | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | heh fair | 16:50 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I just sent cyeoh an invite via IR | 16:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | *IRC but he might miss it | 16:51 |
| etoews | i see him on #openstack-dev | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-wg: Allow JSON files for JSON Schemas and JSON examples https://review.openstack.org/167869 | 16:59 |
| cdent | etoews, sigmavirus24: is there any ongoing conversation about getting the various project apis all under the same http host and port? | 17:04 |
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| etoews | cdent: do you mean in devstack | 17:04 |
| etoews | ? | 17:04 |
| etoews | or the world? | 17:05 |
| cdent | I was thinking more general. | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | cdent: that's come up on the ML | 17:05 |
| cdent | Obviously there are ways to do it if you tweak a bunch of knobs | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | I believe ayoung was working on that a lot | 17:05 |
| cdent | but it is not something that is easy | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | I believe ayoung's idea was to have stuff like | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | host.com/image/images/detail/{image-id} | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | or host.com/horizon{/horizon's/paths/here} | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | host.com/compute{/nova's/stuff/here} | 17:06 |
| * cdent nods | 17:06 | |
| sigmavirus24 | So each service's paths would be underneath one other path | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | but yeah, I prefer subdomains personally for that | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Even though people were complaining about SSL certificates being harder with sub-domains) | 17:07 |
| cdent | subdomains would be another reasonable way to do it, I guess | 17:07 |
| cdent | less painful in terms of dealing with already-known paths | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yep | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | Very clear separation of concerns: images.mycloud.com and compute.mycloud.com | 17:08 |
| cdent | the proliferation of ports bothers me for some reason that I can't quite explain | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | cdent: I get that | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think that, however, isn't much of an API concern but more of a deployer/operator concern | 17:08 |
| * cdent nods | 17:09 | |
| sigmavirus24 | That's my opinion though | 17:09 |
| cdent | certainly in theory it should be an api concern (it's all just uris) but in practice that may not be true :( | 17:09 |
| * sigmavirus24 thinks subdomains map better to services than other methods but that's also probably just my opinion | 17:09 | |
| sigmavirus24 | ayoung's other thing has also always been about being able to build a better horizon | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | And making the APIs work better with a pure js horizon | 17:10 |
| cdent | can't full-flight CORS help with that? | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 17:11 |
| cdent | sigh, that should above should be shouldn't | 17:12 |
| cdent | I think I'm getting rather tired. Long week. | 17:12 |
| cdent | meh | 17:12 |
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| etoews | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design/Errors | 19:27 |
| elmiko | etoews: hey, thinking about the guidelines template | 19:45 |
| elmiko | i'm not quite sure the best format for this, as people tend to freestyle | 19:45 |
| elmiko | and i don't think it would be efficient to have a template that rides alongside the actual guideline proposal | 19:46 |
| etoews | elmiko: when i did my guideline for errors i actually started by looking at a nova spec | 19:48 |
| etoews | this goes back to an irc meeting we had a while ago where i suggested a spec-like format for guidelines. | 19:48 |
| etoews | people were hesitant to change it mid-cycle | 19:49 |
| etoews | i think we could still benefit from a more spec-like format | 19:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | etoews: I agree | 19:49 |
| elmiko | etoews: ok, i like the idea of spec-like guideline but i was hesitant to create something that people might view as too heavyweight | 19:50 |
| etoews | basically just a handful of suggested sections with a small amount of verbiage describing what's expected in each section | 19:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | the date time format guideline would have benefited from more guideance | 19:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 19:50 |
| elmiko | awesome, thanks guys =) | 19:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | also prevents the way we were moving towards clustering topics that a handful of people saw as related | 19:50 |
| etoews | elmiko: =) | 19:51 |
| elmiko | my main concern is that if we create a template that has, for lack of better term, meta-data about the guideline then we might need to strip that when presenting all the guidelines | 19:51 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure if that's a big concern though | 19:52 |
| etoews | i'm not sure either. i was tempted to add the current design stuff to the guideline but --forward looking-- it just becomes noise. | 19:58 |
| etoews | same goes for guidance on how to adopt the guide line | 19:59 |
| etoews | currently i just have it in a comment | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Everett Toews proposed openstack/api-wg: A guideline for errors https://review.openstack.org/167793 | 21:26 |
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