Tuesday, 2023-05-16

opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible stable/xena: Add internal_lb_vip_address to no_proxy  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/88301000:30
jrossergood morning07:45
jrossernoonedeadpunk: do we have tracking (etherpad?) of what we need to get done for release?07:45
opendevreviewDamian Dąbrowski proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum master: Ensure service is restarted on unit file changes  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum/+/87997015:04
opendevreviewDamian Dąbrowski proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum master: Add TLS support to magnum backends  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum/+/87991815:04
damiandabrowski#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting15:06
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jrossero/ hello15:08
damiandabrowskinoonedeadpunk: had some emergency today and he probably won't join so i spontaneously decided to take care of the meeting15:08
damiandabrowski(however i'm completely not prepared :|)15:08
damiandabrowski#rollcall 15:08
jrosserhello15:09
damiandabrowski#topic rollcall15:09
NeilHanlonheyo15:09
jrosserfeels like it will be quiet today :)15:10
damiandabrowski#topic office hours15:10
NeilHanlonyeah i'm busy this morning with releasing rocky 9.215:10
damiandabrowskijrosser: your question about a list of things that need to be done before release is super valid, however I can't answer it :D 15:11
damiandabrowskifor sure we need to fix gating for magnum and zun15:11
jrossershould we start an etherpad?15:11
jrosseri think we need to be all over reviews/recheck etc this week and time is slipping by15:11
damiandabrowskigood idea15:12
damiandabrowski#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-ansible-antelope15:12
NeilHanlonnot sure if useful but15:13
NeilHanlon#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/osa-bobcat-ptg15:13
NeilHanlonif we want, we should be able to upgrade rocky to ovn3.1 now. i will introduce a patch for that soon, once dib builds us a new image15:14
damiandabrowskithanks Neil!15:14
jrosserso apart from the ehterpad there is a ton of stuff to review15:18
damiandabrowskiyeah, i'll spend some time on reviews this week15:20
damiandabrowskiI also need to work on your suggestions related to tls backend in ironic15:20
jrossersome of that might just be documentation i think15:21
damiandabrowskithat's right, like this ipa-insecure=1 parameter15:22
noonedeadpunkSry, I'm in the middle of nowhere now(15:23
NeilHanlonnoonedeadpunk: hope all is okay! 15:52
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spatelDoes cinder support incremental backup?16:14
spatelcurrently if i take backup of any volume for example 150G then its creating backup of 150G 16:14
spatelLook like by default cinder use default 16:19
spatelfull backup16:19
damiandabrowskispatel: according to the documentation you're right, you need to explicitly specify `--incremental` flag16:29
damiandabrowskihttps://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/admin/volume-backups.html#:~:text=Without%20the%20incremental%20flag%2C%20a%20full%20backup%20is%20created%20by%20default.%20With%20the%20incremental%20flag%2C%20an%20incremental%20backup%20is%20created.16:29
spatelDo i need to add backup_incremental = True in cinder.conf?16:30
damiandabrowskihmm, where did you find backup_incremental option? I don't see it anywhere16:38
spateldamiandabrowski hmm! i found that option in my google. try to find same link again 16:41
spatelYou are saying just pass --incremental flag should be enough correct? does Horizon support that flag?16:42
damiandabrowskiso: I'm not using cinder backup :D I just went through docs and code16:45
damiandabrowskiso as long as your driver supports incremental backups, then it should be just a matter of passing --incremental flag16:46
spatelwhat do you use for backup of volume?16:46
damiandabrowskihorizon should support incremental backups but it's a fairly new feature: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/commit/61df006f4ab41aed23e614ac11874a92b1d1025616:46
damiandabrowskisome important docs w.r.t cinder backup:16:46
damiandabrowskihttps://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/configuration/block-storage/backup/ceph-backup-driver.html16:46
damiandabrowskihttps://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/latest/configure-cinder.html#using-ceph-for-cinder-backups16:46
spatelwhen i pass --incremental flag then it endup in error state 16:47
spatelmay be need to play with backup_ceph_chunk_size = 134217728 16:47
damiandabrowskiwe have a custom "disaster recovery" service: https://docs.cleura.cloud/background/disaster-recovery/16:48
spateldamiandabrowski so it do volume snapshot ?16:49
damiandabrowskiyeah16:50
jrossercinder backup is manual isnt it, which is really not very compatible with human behaviours16:51
spatelHmm! so i should use cinder volume snapshot in that case if backup is not great. 16:52
jrosserperhaps? depends why you want to do it16:53
jrosserif you want an autonomous thing creating backups of your instances continually then cinder backup has a feature gap there which i don't really understand16:53
jrosserand maybe you do/dont want those backups to be on the same storage backend16:54
jrossercinder backup snapshotting inside the same ceph cluster might cover some use cases of backups, but not really one where the ceph fails16:55
spatelThanks jrosser But what is the big difference between cinder backup and cinder snapshot of volume? 16:56
jrosserwell, cinder backup can have a different storage backend, if you want16:57
spatelI am trying to find backup solution and not sure what i should use and why. I would like to implement some kind of scheduler who do it for me.16:57
jrosserlime ceph -> NFS16:57
spateljrosser ah!! 16:57
jrosser*like16:57
spatelSo snapshot only for single backend like ceph only16:57
jrosserso really depends on what/why you want to do it, and what you are trrying to protext against16:57
spatelI have only ceph storage 16:57
jrosserwell i mnaser has already shared this with us before https://github.com/vexxhost/staffeln16:58
spatelYes, I remembered it now. I need to play and understand how I can integrate it with but I need to find out what I should use cinder-backup or volume snapshot 17:02
noonedeadpunkjrosser: what we wanted t oland for the release was stated in ptg etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/osa-bobcat-ptg17:17
noonedeadpunkNeilHanlon: Yeah, was sorting out visa stuff, now I'm 1 step closer, despite that required another travel abroad...17:18
NeilHanlonouch17:18
noonedeadpunkNow if post service won't fail delivery, I have some chance to get it in time17:20
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Replace etcd usage with zookeeper for zun  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/88319417:21
jrossernoonedeadpunk: yeah, I meant actually what we need to concentrate on this week because a bunch of ptg stuff won’t get done17:34
jrossermainly just to track the in flight patches to help review17:34
noonedeadpunkyeah, but we kinda got all done I think17:34
noonedeadpunkI will create one though17:34
noonedeadpunkbtw, magnum seems happy now https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum/+/88048417:38
noonedeadpunkoh.... do we have neutron issue now?17:40
noonedeadpunk`nothing provides openvswitch2.17 needed by rdo-openvswitch-2:2.17-4.el9s.noarch`17:40
noonedeadpunkNeilHanlon: was you discussing that already? I guess we should just revert workaround as new ovs is ready?17:41
NeilHanlonthat's my fault.. i did not tag 2.17 into the release repo fast enough17:42
NeilHanlonwe can revert, yes, but also 2.17 will be available from NFV sig in like 1 day17:42
NeilHanlonlet me just unpatch that17:42
noonedeadpunkWell, I think for master we wanna it to be 3.1 17:42
noonedeadpunkrest can wait for couple of days for sure17:43
noonedeadpunkbtw, the link with patches - just started working on that - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/osa-antelope-leftover-patches17:43
noonedeadpunkbut I think it's pretty much it17:45
opendevreviewNeil Hanlon proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Revert pinning rdo-deps for openvswitch 2.17 for rocky  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/88329417:50
NeilHanlonthis was my weekend https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220391917:56
NeilHanlononly affects powerpc, thankfully17:56
* noonedeadpunk wonders who cares abot powerpc18:07
spateldamiandabrowski jrosser what is wrong here? Am i missing something - https://paste.opendev.org/show/bu7koZzXApDyKlTcLU08/18:09
spatelDo i need to take first default backup and then incremental ? 18:10
noonedeadpunkyes, furst must be full18:10
NeilHanlonnoonedeadpunk: me too....18:10
noonedeadpunkincremental arfe created out of full and should be merged with nearest full on recovery18:10
spatelnoonedeadpunk thanks!!! it works but why incremental also has same size 10G ?18:15
spatelhttps://paste.opendev.org/show/bJ5pUbctqJ2nRRgfWMiD/18:15
spatelAm i missing anything in command?18:15
noonedeadpunkspatel: there's a bug in some mariadb version, maybe damiandabrowski does recall version18:16
noonedeadpunkbut idea is that they broke incremental ones18:16
noonedeadpunkhttps://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server/commit/d65197c8696ca8dc1cbfd6af376494df56fea8ee18:16
noonedeadpunkspatel:  ^18:16
spatelnoonedeadpunk oh wait... This is cinder backup and you are saying related to mariaDB?18:17
noonedeadpunkoh....18:19
noonedeadpunkok, then I don't know :)18:20
spatel:)18:20
noonedeadpunkyeah, I was reffering to galera, sorry18:20
spatelno problem 18:20
spatelI am trying to take cinder-backup of volume and trying to test how incremental backup work.. but look like I am going something stupid https://paste.opendev.org/show/bJ5pUbctqJ2nRRgfWMiD/18:21
spatelEven for incremental backup its showing same size. Is that normal?18:21
spatelFeels like ceph doesn't support incremental back 18:38
spatelFeels like ceph doesn't support incremental backup18:38
spatelhttps://opendev.org/openstack/cinder/commit/5018727f8e18992e64c55b84f0d5b39ae7c70b3218:40
noonedeadpunkI depends on the backend I think18:43
noonedeadpunkas if you store backups in S3 (rgw) - it should be supported I think18:44
noonedeadpunkbut not if it's ceph native18:44
noonedeadpunkthough I don't have really much experience with that18:44
spatelFeels like ceph isn't supported option for incremental 18:45
spatelI will ask in mailing list and see 18:45
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Don't install zlibc, it was removed from Debian  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila/+/88306719:49

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