Thursday, 2022-10-20

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noonedeadpunkmornings07:43
noonedeadpunkI'd say to address that we can try add some condition to ca's as well as we add to certs07:44
noonedeadpunkah, we already do that07:45
noonedeadpunkhttps://opendev.org/openstack/ansible-role-pki/src/branch/master/vars/main.yml#L3207:45
jrosser_morning07:54
noonedeadpunktbh I think run_once is correct there. It would be really too much overhead without it imo07:57
noonedeadpunklike all computes/containers/net nodes will fetch exact same file for quite small reason 07:57
jrosser_right - thats what i was thinking here that the collection of the CA from the pki setup node was consistent across all the hosts08:02
jrosser_but i can also see how normal ansible expectations would want vars in group_vars to do the right thing08:02
noonedeadpunkwell... yes hard to disagree. But I don't know how to tick both boxes here08:23
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opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184911:12
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184911:13
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/train: Disable upgrade jobs on EM branch  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86185811:14
anskiyI have a question about updates. As far as I've understood, I would not be able to update to Zed if I'm running Focal, and I would have to wait until Antiloper release, when I'll need to upgrade to Jammy along with OpenStack upgrade, right?11:17
jrosser_anskiy: https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/admin/upgrades/compatibility-matrix.html11:18
anskiyjrosser_: I see, thank you :)11:19
jrosser_Zed will be a release with support for focal and Jammy so thats a pretty good place to do your OS upgrade11:20
noonedeadpunkI think even on antelope both should be still supported...11:21
anskiyjrosser_: got it11:22
anskiynoonedeadpunk: isn't there some problem with minimal python version for antelope?11:22
anskiyI mean, on focal, you have 3.911:22
noonedeadpunkanskiy: so there should be Y->A direct updates. While they're not "officially supported" all project should have CI jobs to test this path11:23
noonedeadpunkAnd A->A+2 will be first officially supported upgrade path11:24
noonedeadpunkso Y->A is kind of "training" but this also means that projects will still need to support that somehow11:24
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anskiyand 3.9 is supported, but OSA uses 3.8 on focal right now11:27
noonedeadpunkyou actually can't use 3.9 for nova at least iirc?11:28
noonedeadpunkas there're no python3-libvirt bindings for 3.9?11:28
noonedeadpunkalso it will be problematic for ceph as well11:29
jrosser_imho this needs to be better documented in the PTI (looking at the tc :) )11:30
jrosser_the current approach considers each release in isolation, but with the adding of A->A+2 type upgrades then the lifecycle of the distros and pythons (becasue of the bindings) needs to be understood11:31
anskiynoonedeadpunk: yeah, true.11:32
anskiyso it looks like I would have to run mixed Ubuntu versions on Z, as I would still prefer to do direct upgrades, without skipping anything in between11:35
anskiythanks for the info!11:35
noonedeadpunkjrosser_: oh yes, I was going to raise that today on PTG11:36
noonedeadpunkanskiy: let us know how mixed versions working as of today11:36
jrosser_noonedeadpunk: it would be great if there was some graphical view11:37
noonedeadpunkas we aimed to fix that support in Y but never ran production env with that11:37
jrosser_like this sort of thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history#Version_timeline11:38
anskiynoonedeadpunk: I think, I would be able to start this only at the very end of a year, but sure!11:38
noonedeadpunkyeah, and eventually confusing part is that for A it's currently obviously stated only 22.04 and python310 which is very confusing11:38
jrosser_i don't believe there is much (any?) consideration for overlap and upgrades when the PTI is defined, it's too simplistic11:39
jrosser_also the cadence of python releases is getting much quicker11:40
jrosser_it's no longer like the past with a decade of python2.7 so some of the previous approaches to setting target distros/pythons are maybe not as valid as in the far far past11:41
noonedeadpunkwell, some subset of python versions still need to be tested supported. And because of bindings it's still tighten to distros. IMO nowadays I'd say it's more distros that should adjust their midset in terms of building python bindings, as indeed lifetime of ubuntu lts is way longer then python it provides11:43
jrosser_perhaps things can be added to UCA and the like there11:45
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server stable/stein: Use cloudsmith repo for rabbit and erlang  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server/+/86210412:07
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mgariepygood morning12:15
noonedeadpunk\o/12:15
mgariepyhow are you guys doing this morning ?12:16
noonedeadpunkmeh.... continue digging in old crap...12:20
noonedeadpunkalso had weird thing wrt cinder on beginning of xena (like 24.0.1 tag of osa)12:21
noonedeadpunkthere's obviously some bug with clustering or dunno12:21
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/ussuri: Do not user urljoin for deprecated script  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86214313:25
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/ussuri: Switch to tracking stable/ussuri for EM release  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/85302913:25
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184913:27
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opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/ussuri: Return CentOS 7 jobs to voting  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86178914:57
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opendevreviewDamian Dąbrowski proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not enable glance_show_multiple_locations  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86216717:01
opendevreviewDamian Dąbrowski proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance master: Add external_lb_vip_address to glance_cors_allowed_origin by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance/+/86217117:06
opendevreviewDamian Dąbrowski proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance master: Add external_lb_vip_address to glance_cors_allowed_origin by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance/+/86217117:08
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/train: Bump pluggy back to support py27  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-tests/+/86217317:10
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184917:11
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184917:21
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/train: Bump pluggy back to support py27  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-tests/+/86217317:48
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184918:03
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86169718:20
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts stable/train: Use legacy image retrieval for CentOS 7  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/86184918:34
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