Thursday, 2022-06-02

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opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Use PKI role for certificate generation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia/+/83906808:31
noonedeadpunkso, seems all yammy fail quite early on repo stuff08:44
noonedeadpunkI believe on glusterfs actually08:44
noonedeadpunk`Failed to find required executable "gluster" in paths`08:45
noonedeadpunkhttps://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_c85/843711/6/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_lxc-ubuntu-jammy/c859f0a/logs/ara-report/results/1704.html08:45
noonedeadpunkwe need glusterfs-cli for 22.0408:47
mgariepyi don't have time today but i think to reproduce locally we need to add the disable-recommends file in apt.09:49
jrosser_also i don't have time today, but didnt we already do something with disable-recommends for ceph?09:53
jrosser_https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/commit/c4405603be81e66515fcff3a9528d15a286b1b0009:59
opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Add default apt config for ubuntu 22.04  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/84441010:03
mgariepythe CI does disable recommends and suggest. 10:04
mgariepybut it still works on focal.10:04
mgariepytomorrow i'll try to reproduce locally just to confirm it's the issue.10:05
mgariepyit's kinda crazy how the image is so big but does contains so little.10:05
jrosser_we landed our own support for disabling recommended patches kind of in parallel with adding 22.04 support, so we missed that for jammy10:05
opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins master: Ensure that glusterfs-cli is installed for ubuntu 22.04  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins/+/84441310:07
jrosser_noonedeadpunk: two fixes there ^^ but i don't know if its sufficient10:08
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server master: Fix systemd and centos9.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server/+/84428810:17
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opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins master: Ensure that glusterfs-cli is installed for ubuntu 22.04  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins/+/84441311:49
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noonedeadpunkoh, ok, good :)13:36
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic master: Remove [keystone] configuration block  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic/+/83154413:39
MouaaHi guys. It seems that we have side effects on our nested DEV platform (Vxlan in Vxlan with mtu tunned) -> Keepalived hearbeats currently configured in vxlan Multicast are flapping VRRP routers state. Do you know if it is possible and supported (via openstack-ansible) to configure keepalive in Unicast? In the meantime, we will try to tunne on the values of fall and rise in the vrrp_script... Thanks for your reply14:15
jrosser_Mouaa: the configuration for keepalived is set here https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-ansible/src/branch/master/inventory/group_vars/haproxy/keepalived.yml#L5614:18
jrosser_if you want to change any of that, copy that whole variable definition to your user_variables.yml and make whatever adjustments you need14:19
jrosser_that variable is used by this ansible role https://github.com/evrardjp/ansible-keepalived14:19
jrosser_yout can see in the template that generates the keepalived config file that there is the possibility for unicast https://github.com/evrardjp/ansible-keepalived/blob/master/templates/keepalived.conf.j2#L117-L12214:20
jrosser_in openstack-ansible we leave all these hooks open for you to adjust the config however you need, but you won't find a specific example for keepalived+unicast14:21
jrosser_it would be up to you to find what is needed in keepalived.conf and create the right contents for that in user_variables.yml14:22
Mouaathx Jonathan14:22
jrosser_Mouaa: i am describing here keepalived for the openstack-ansible H/A API endpoints14:26
jrosser_do you mean for neutron HA routers?14:26
MouaaYou're right, our problem it's for H/A API endpoints14:28
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jrosser_ok, cool14:29
spatelFolk any good RAID controller to build Ceph storage?14:40
spatelAny recommendation?  14:40
supamattdont use a raid controller ;S14:52
spatelhmm14:53
spatelI read RAID controller increase performance like write cach etc.. (RAID-0 or JBOD)14:54
spatelI meant passthrough RAID14:54
jrosser_spatel: how many disks do you want?15:02
spatel2x18TB disk 15:03
spatelon each server15:03
spatelwe have total 15 servers for Ceph15:04
jrosser_sounds like you would have enough onboard sata ports15:06
spatelhmm so i don't need any external RAID controller correct?15:07
spatelsomeone proposed to buy this one - https://arecadirect.com/areca-arc-1886-16i-16-port-pcie-gen-4-0-tri-mode-raid-adapters/15:07
jrosser_for what reason? :)15:07
spatelthat is what i am researching.. :)15:07
spatelwhy do i need $1200 RAID controller? 15:08
spateldoes on-board RAID controller provide speed and write cache ? 15:08
jrosser_first really decide if you are building..... highest possible capacity / best iops / best throughput / lowest cost / some other definition of "best"15:09
spatelI am using 18TB disk which has 12G/s speed so atleast need enough speed on RAID controller15:09
spatelThis storage is for HPC openstack workload 15:09
jrosser_the interface may well be 12Gbit/sec but the sequential write rate of an HDD is way way way less than that15:10
spatelWe need massive filestorage ( more space to storage research data, i don't think IOPS matter here)15:10
jrosser_then when you get non-sequental access the throughput will be much lower again15:11
spatelI am going to put WAL+DB on NvME 15:11
jrosser_imho you should look at the cost / benefit of doing the whole thing on nvme15:11
spatelNVME is very costly :(15:11
jrosser_right - this is why i say you have to decide what you are optimising for15:11
spatelwe need more TB space then IOPS15:11
spatelwe need more TB space than IOPS15:11
jrosser_you can optimise for low cost and large storage but that will come at the price of io/sec and throughput15:12
spatelYou are saying buying Areca RAID controller with HDD won't do better compare to onboard one15:13
jrosser_there are some advantages to having a SAS interface over SATA, like command queuing is better and so on15:14
jrosser_but really you don't need anything raid or complicated, it's just more money and more to go wrong15:14
jrosser_you say nvme is expensive but that card would cost more than your 2x 18T disks?15:14
spatelAgreed 15:15
jrosser_get a "sensible" server with onboard LSI sas chip and it's job done15:16
spatelwhat is the difference of keeping WAL+DB on NvME + HDD  Vs all NvME  ? 15:16
spateljrosser_ +1 15:16
jrosser_depending on what you are doing some db operations on ceph can be quite intensive15:17
spatelhmm15:17
jrosser_so if you have HDD those might be unacceptably slow, which is why there is a lot of advice to put the DB on nvme15:17
spatelThis is for HPC workload and i am still debating what storage software i should use? Ceph/Gluster/Luster ?15:18
jrosser_without knowing what the workload is, it's not possible to say15:18
jrosser_and if you want RBD, or filesystemd mounts, cinder volumes, or object storage.......15:18
jrosser_anyway, for ceph i'd not get a fancy raid card15:19
spatelIts University and they do all kind of research to finding answer is difficult (its general purpose HPC cluster for students) 15:19
spatelI am going to propose same to not buy RAID controller :)15:19
spatelPlan is to have storage and use Manila to mount filesystem on VM so they have shared filesystem for MPI jobs 15:20
jrosser_remember that the performance can never be better than the underlying performance of the drives, really15:21
jrosser_there is no magic or free lunch here15:21
spatelcan't disagree with you :) 15:21
jrosser_and the marketing performance figures for HDD will be for sequential15:22
jrosser_everything else will be terrible15:22
spatel16TB NvME cost $399915:23
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Add default apt config for ubuntu 22.04  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/84441015:35
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