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| leo8a | Hi there guys, good morning! I have installed Train in Ubuntu 18 (bionic) using openstack-ansible (AIO) and all ok. I have ping to VMs attached to public network (flat) created by tempest (172.29.248.0/22), but the problem is when i try to create a VLAN network and then try to ping VMs attached to that new VLAN network (pls bear in mind this is not a VXLAN network). Any help here is highly appreciated! I can also provide more details if needed... | 08:11 |
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| leo8a | Hello! Anyones to ask (the specifics) of how br-vlan is conected inside an AIO node? | 09:04 |
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| jrosser | leo8a: you should read this about how the host networking is set up for the AIO https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/tests/roles/bootstrap-host/tasks/prepare_networking.yml | 09:26 |
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| jrosser | leo8a: br-vlan is defined here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/tests/roles/bootstrap-host/tasks/prepare_networking.yml#L143-L154 | 09:29 |
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| jrosser | so it has an IP on it so that the neutron flat network eth12 can NAT out of the host (br-vlan -> eth12 veth pair) | 09:30 |
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| leo8a | Hi jrosser, that's correct. The server has an IP | 09:31 |
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| jrosser | bear in mind that the AIO networking is designed as a test setup so might not be representative of a useful setup spanning more than one node | 09:32 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: should we talk about the upgrade jobs? | 11:31 |
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| noonedeadpunk | yeah | 11:32 |
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| jrosser | is this the problem - that we mess with the state of the zuul provided repos so that the actual change we are testing isnt present in the 'upgraded' part of the job? | 11:34 |
| noonedeadpunk | I think yes. This is what happens now... | 11:34 |
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| noonedeadpunk | but I think that it's smth we can workaround | 11:34 |
| jrosser | yes, perhaps in upgrade jobs the installation of release N-1 needs to happen differently | 11:35 |
| noonedeadpunk | or maybe this jobs should be used only for integrated repo, but then they will be broken too often... | 11:35 |
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| noonedeadpunk | actually N-1 is ok, but after that N bootstrap is wrong | 11:36 |
| jrosser | we could copy the repos from where zuul puts them into /etc/ansible/roles and checkout stable/<blah> | 11:36 |
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| jrosser | then when we do the upgrade we delete all that and use the existing process to symlink to the zuul checked out repos | 11:36 |
| noonedeadpunk | as we kinda do changes to N but not N-1 | 11:37 |
| jrosser | so that the patches applied by zuul remain untouched | 11:37 |
| jrosser | remeber we symlink though in N-1? that then messes with the state of the zuul repos? | 11:37 |
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| noonedeadpunk | oh, maybe... I can recall some copying from zuul but don't remember if it's linking or copying... | 11:38 |
| noonedeadpunk | anyway it's smth we can probably fix. | 11:38 |
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| noonedeadpunk | but I'm pretty bothered by 2 things except it - why in train CI we again have problems with placement migrations and why they broke for master as well | 11:39 |
| jrosser | just on upgrades i think we should do something different here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/scripts/get-ansible-role-requirements.yml#L50-L57 | 11:39 |
| noonedeadpunk | yeah, agree | 11:40 |
| jrosser | some kind of copy/checkout for N-1 and then that symlink for N | 11:40 |
| jrosser | do you have an example of the train placement migration error | 11:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | But I'd say we should fix their current state at the first place? And after that fix overall logic for other than integrated repo | 11:41 |
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| noonedeadpunk | sure | 11:41 |
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| noonedeadpunk | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/e35a42f4e739453ea293fc0bc717c231/log/job-output.txt#17185 | 11:42 |
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| noonedeadpunk | I've seen that before. But wasn't able to reproduce in spawned aio... | 11:42 |
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| noonedeadpunk | iirc it happens with wrong mysql-migrate-db.sh | 11:43 |
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| noonedeadpunk | (or missing env vars with db creds) | 11:43 |
| noonedeadpunk | but yes, I think youve pointed to the right reason and place we should change logic | 11:44 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: just talking about the placement migration error with gshippey - we saw the exact same thing too | 11:51 |
| noonedeadpunk | but I guess you've fixed it? | 11:51 |
| jrosser | sequence of problems - lack of mysqldump, galera client etc we've patched all that | 11:51 |
| jrosser | but it was reproducible in a 'clean' db | 11:52 |
| jrosser | *wasnt | 11:52 |
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| noonedeadpunk | actully I wasn't able to reproduce with gate-check-commit.sh either... | 11:52 |
| noonedeadpunk | so maybe smth ci-specific again.... | 11:53 |
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| jrosser | we were also never able to reporoduce, becasue in the lab we "fixed" it by ensuring the root user was used for the db connection | 11:54 |
| jrosser | messing with the my.cnf by hand | 11:54 |
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| jrosser | and from memory there was something to do with db permissions when that "Table 'placement.resource_providers' doesn't exist\" error came up | 11:55 |
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| noonedeadpunk | wondring if I would be able to catch that without asking for autohold | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Add image download for manila https://review.opendev.org/704972 | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Add image download for manila https://review.opendev.org/704972 | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Add Manila key generation and distribution https://review.opendev.org/705019 | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts stable/train: Install gpg and sudo binary for Debian based systems https://review.opendev.org/708659 | 14:33 |
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| noonedeadpunk | mnaser: we kinda need https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705222/3 as after https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704942/ fixes things - this part actually breaks... | 15:17 |
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| noonedeadpunk | So I was placing patches on top of 705222 with reason | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Fix _manila_backends fact https://review.opendev.org/705222 | 15:23 |
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| cjloader | hi all | 15:41 |
| cjloader | any update on upgrade jobs | 15:41 |
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| noonedeadpunk | cjloader: not really | 16:06 |
| cjloader | ok | 16:06 |
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| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: I wasn't able to reproduce placement failure even with resources in nova... | 16:21 |
| noonedeadpunk | neither without them.... | 16:21 |
| noonedeadpunk | probably worth asking for autohold unless you have ideas about how to reproduce | 16:22 |
| cjloader | noonedeadpunk: might try rechecking to see if maybe an intermittent error | 16:26 |
| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: i think that a hold would be good | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_manila master: Start using uWSGI role https://review.opendev.org/704935 | 17:05 |
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| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: but, I'd reproduced "{"msg": "'ansible.vars.hostvars.HostVarsVars object' has no attribute 'ansible_distribution'"}" | 18:03 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: is that what’s breaking upgrades? | 18:07 |
| noonedeadpunk | yeah, on master | 18:08 |
| noonedeadpunk | but... kinda once I've launched openstack-hosts-setup.yml again after failure it passed normally | 18:08 |
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| noonedeadpunk | I think this can be related https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-ansible/src/branch/master/scripts/gate-check-commit.sh#L174 | 18:14 |
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| noonedeadpunk | (wondering why did we need it) | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible stable/train: Fix idempotency for os-lxc-container-setup.yml https://review.opendev.org/708493 | 18:31 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: facts are cached, but if placement is introduced new.....? | 18:37 |
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| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: it's not about placement now... Placement fails on S->T and I can't reproduce that | 18:45 |
| noonedeadpunk | But on T->U it fails on openstack hosts after merge of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705849/7 | 18:45 |
| noonedeadpunk | and it's reproducable | 18:46 |
| noonedeadpunk | ( https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/ccea376864f843f8bce7d517b0d1a78e/log/job-output.txt#16203) | 18:47 |
| noonedeadpunk | so I think we can kinda clean facts and don't collect them again until that point... | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: DNM Gather facts for the setup-hosts.yml https://review.opendev.org/708949 | 18:49 |
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| noonedeadpunk | would be great to get reviews for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705222/4 | 18:58 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: interesting https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/51727 | 20:46 |
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| noonedeadpunk | indeed | 20:50 |
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| noonedeadpunk | btw https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708949/1/scripts/gate-check-commit.sh also fails upgrade... | 20:52 |
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| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: i wonder if we gather facts for aio1 but never for localhost | 21:17 |
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| jrosser | and then the whole task is delegated to localhost (deploy host) so i'm wondering if this is all just wrong | 21:20 |
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| strattao | @jamesdenton are you in by chance? | 21:36 |
| jamesdenton | yes? | 21:37 |
| jamesdenton | tied up at the moment, but can try to help. what's up? | 21:37 |
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| strattao | I am losing my mind and could use a tip or pointer to something that we may have overlooked.... we're losing connectivity between the dhcp agents and the snat gateway on and off, the connection will stop working and then come back. Nothing in the logs sticks out. | 21:38 |
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| strattao | When the connection is not working `ip neighbor` in the qdhcp namespace shows the entry for the snat gateway as FAILED | 21:40 |
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| strattao | When are in the snat namespace and we ping the qdhcp ip address, the connectivity will start working again, but only for a minute or two. Eventually it will start working on its own without the ping, but only for a period of time before dropping again. | 21:41 |
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| strattao | We've tried deleting and recreating the dhcp and l3 agents, deleting and recreating the network and router, and restarting all neutron services on the network hosts and hypervisors... and yet this issue still persists! | 21:43 |
| strattao | Any other details I can give? Thoughts? | 21:46 |
| jrosser | so thats arp failure? | 21:46 |
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| strattao | It has to be arp related, but it's intermittent... | 21:47 |
| jrosser | i was just today having to fix arp related trouble on a l3 agent node | 21:47 |
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| jrosser | which was related to multicast as we are using vxlan project networks | 21:48 |
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| jamesdenton | strattao this is OVS, right? | 21:49 |
| strattao | yessir | 21:49 |
| strattao | we are also using vxlan | 21:49 |
| jamesdenton | stein? rocky? | 21:49 |
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| strattao | where's my embarrassment emoji?... queens | 21:50 |
| jamesdenton | naw, thats ok | 21:50 |
| jamesdenton | i'm battling some OVS demons myself right now | 21:50 |
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| jamesdenton | i am seeing similar behavior... things work OK, arp goes STALE->FAILED. In our case, pings stop working. a restart of the agent gets things going, only to start dropping again within minutes | 21:53 |
| strattao | very similar to what we're seeing... | 21:53 |
| jamesdenton | a pcap on the VM tap shows ARP replies, but they get dropped by OVS on the way out. we're seeing weird ovs flow cookie behavior | 21:53 |
| jamesdenton | this is Stein w/ OVS 2.11.0 | 21:53 |
| jamesdenton | are you able to test with a VM? Or only between snat and qdhcp? | 22:02 |
| strattao | we can test with a VM | 22:02 |
| strattao | the problem is finding a project where this is happening | 22:02 |
| jamesdenton | ahh ok, so it's not all? | 22:02 |
| strattao | (while it is happening) | 22:02 |
| jamesdenton | gotcha | 22:03 |
| strattao | it seems to be rolling | 22:03 |
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| strattao | one thing that is interesting is that we have similar regions that were installed with queens and do not exhibit this issue... however, we run into this issue on the regions that were upgraded from Pike | 22:06 |
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| strattao | but on those regions it is really frustrating because it only affects some interfaces, in some projects, some of the time... | 22:07 |
| jamesdenton | i understand | 22:08 |
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| jamesdenton | well, if i get anywhere with this i will share what the fix is, could apply to you. | 22:13 |
| strattao | thank you for any help! Is there a launchpad bug you're tracking or do you think this is primarily an OVS issue? | 22:14 |
| strattao | jrosser, what did you ultimately have to do to fix your multicast issue for the l3 agent? Maybe it's another thing we can poke around and look into as well... | 22:17 |
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| jrosser | strattao: ours is linuxbridge so i don't know if it's relevant for OVS but we had a misconfigured multicast RP on one switch | 22:19 |
| jamesdenton | havent gotten that far, yet | 22:19 |
| jrosser | which meant some but not all arp went awol | 22:19 |
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| jrosser | and you could 'make it work' by going in the router namespace and manually pinging the right thing, which was ok till the arp cache timed out the entry | 22:20 |
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| strattao | jrosser, that really does sound exactly like what we're seeing... | 22:22 |
| jrosser | i have no idea if OVS is using mutlicast for mac learning or unicast replication | 22:24 |
| strattao | Yeah, how OVS handles the ARP and multicast traffic is still a bit of a black box for me... | 22:26 |
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| strattao | jrosser This info is a few years old, but according to this blog: https://networkop.co.uk/blog/2016/05/06/neutron-l2pop/ Default OpenvSwitch implementation does not support VXLAN multicast flooding and uses unicast source replication instead. | 22:34 |
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| jrosser | strattao: yes it feels like things are different here between OVS<>linuxbridge | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Use ansible-runtime python to drop hosts file https://review.opendev.org/708989 | 22:45 |
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