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| jrosser | it's another sitation where we don't want to end up with a split pattern across the roles | 13:14 |
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| evrardjp | I dropped the hammer | 13:16 |
| evrardjp | This is indeed not a direction I would like this project to go to. | 13:17 |
| evrardjp | I would be fine with having a rhel file, and changing the order the same way everywhere. | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic master: Add integrated coverage https://review.opendev.org/660083 | 13:22 |
| mnaser | i don't get what the big issue is with that change | 13:25 |
| mnaser | a -2 means you are hard blocking that patch | 13:25 |
| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: Is there a way to copy CA certificates inside containers (I'm regarding https://review.opendev.org/#/c/641445/)? I feel like there should be separate patch for copying isnide containers? | 13:26 |
| mnaser | we did all sorts of workarounds to get opensuse 42 to work only to eventually drop it | 13:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Updated from OpenStack Ansible Tests https://review.opendev.org/667873 | 13:26 |
| mnaser | is the issue here that we're "doing things for rhel 8 specifically" | 13:27 |
| jrosser | noonedeadpunk: it does that already, becasue openstack_hosts also targets the contaimers | 13:28 |
| mnaser | and the layered stuff is neat too tbh because it takes a common base and puts things on top of it | 13:28 |
| mnaser | it allows us to maintain a common base + overrides per specific os | 13:28 |
| evrardjp | mnaser: I am not against thel 8, I am all for it. | 13:29 |
| mnaser | i actually like the layering approach | 13:29 |
| evrardjp | the layering is a bad idea as it's hard to track | 13:29 |
| mnaser | and given that it's taken a month to land a single patch for this, i think that reflects poorly from us to throw a -2 after working 2 months to work on it. | 13:29 |
| mnaser | it' | 13:29 |
| mnaser | it'll just be easier for them to just maintain their own role and call it a day | 13:29 |
| evrardjp | I am opposed as this being a snowflake where ppl can do what they want | 13:30 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with it if we define it's the new standard | 13:30 |
| mnaser | i like this approach. i think it's useful for a few scenarios (and it's not as confusing as you mention imho). i don't think it's fair for me to tell someone 'if you want to change this, go and fix 30 other roles' | 13:31 |
| evrardjp | so you think it's the way to go for the project to have all the roles as snowflakes? | 13:31 |
| mnaser | they already are | 13:31 |
| mnaser | we're slowly but surely trying to add more automation like the mq_setup and db_setup to un-snowflake them | 13:31 |
| evrardjp | this doesn't explain WHY we need this, why we need the ordering change | 13:31 |
| evrardjp | this looks by far more complex than just adding a var file | 13:32 |
| mnaser | "Variables are loaded based on granularity, the more specific ones overriding the more generic ones. This allowing us to declare overrides in a minimal number of places." | 13:32 |
| evrardjp | it also now silently allow breakages | 13:32 |
| mnaser | i.e. redhat.yml contains tempest_distro_packages and redhat-8.yml doesn't | 13:32 |
| mnaser | which means less work when redhat-9 comes if tempest_distro_packages stays the same for example | 13:32 |
| mnaser | im not sure how it silently allows breakages if we're testing the entire set of supported operating systems | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | I don't see why you can't have that with redhat | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | .yml | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | that's what we always did | 13:33 |
| mnaser | if we're testing rh7/rh8/ubuntu16/ubuntu18 | 13:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ansible-role-python_venv_build master: Updated from OpenStack Ansible Tests https://review.opendev.org/667886 | 13:33 |
| noonedeadpunk | I don't think that it's good idea to devide for redhat and redhat-8 | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | and if some specific package was different, we used a conditional inside the var file | 13:33 |
| noonedeadpunk | As it's not explicit | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | anyway | 13:33 |
| evrardjp | let's discuss it first | 13:34 |
| evrardjp | before defining a new standard | 13:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_zun master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/667074 | 13:34 |
| mnaser | i think throwing a -2 after a few people have been working on a patch for 1 month without us doing enough reviews reflects poorly of us. we either speak early instead of having someone iterate on things for a month before telling them you're wrong | 13:34 |
| mnaser | anyways. | 13:34 |
| mnaser | i don't think this is fair so i'm actually going to change this up to work for rhel-8 based on that change | 13:35 |
| mnaser | and i hope we can land that, then we can discuss the change | 13:35 |
| martinkennelly | Hi all, is DPDK integration into neutron available in OSA? I see this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/590810 but its not merged. | 13:35 |
| mnaser | and i hope we can review it quickly | 13:35 |
| evrardjp | I can remove my vote if you feel it's better for the project. | 13:35 |
| mnaser | i just think it's pretty crappy when someone is trying to land something for a month and then they're told "nope" after 11 patchsets | 13:35 |
| evrardjp | I haven't seen this in the ML or in the meetings | 13:36 |
| mnaser | we should either speak earlier, or accept that we'd "stayed silent" for too long and if its not terrible .. its ok | 13:36 |
| jrosser | so the reason i asked evrardjp to look at this was we had a wierd blow-up this week to to vars inclusion | 13:37 |
| evrardjp | jrosser: this will just get amplified | 13:37 |
| jrosser | where if role A includes role B, and B tries to include vars/foo.yml, that can actually come from A/vars/foo.yml | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | we'll now have no failures, it's gonna be silently loading wrong vars. | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | that will be amazing. | 13:38 |
| noonedeadpunk | +1 with that | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | But hey, let's not make a wrong message to ppl | 13:38 |
| mnaser | does anyone wanna volunteer helping the tripleo team in landing this by making it something we 'accept' | 13:39 |
| evrardjp | I proposed solutions in my review! | 13:39 |
| evrardjp | I don't -2 without reasons! | 13:39 |
| evrardjp | I think we need to discuss this all together, and understand the risks | 13:39 |
| jrosser | so a very practical example here is that redhat-8.yml will get included from the parent role if it doesnt exist in an included role | 13:40 |
| evrardjp | if we do this, we can kiss goodbye the assert for checking the vars are properly loaded | 13:40 |
| evrardjp | oh wait, maybe we can | 13:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | Anyway I'm not sure that such implicit things are great.... | 13:42 |
| jrosser | martinkennelly: you are right the DPDK stuff is not merged, jamesdenton may be able to advise on that | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_trove master: Updated from OpenStack Ansible Tests https://review.opendev.org/658042 | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | also there is a way different than this patchset (which I proposed as an alternative), to do the same behaviour | 13:42 |
| noonedeadpunk | It also may result in decreasing redability | 13:42 |
| martinkennelly | Thanks jrosser! | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | make the loop a var, and from that, make our lookup first found the default | 13:42 |
| jrosser | martinkennelly: as i remember it is exceedinly difficult to automate this and correcly deal with NUMA setup | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | ppl can then adapt to what they want | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Update the list of python3 packages https://review.opendev.org/661994 | 13:43 |
| jamesdenton | hi martinkennelly - those patches need to be rebased, at a minimum, and probably restructured. Unfortunately, I'm short on time. | 13:44 |
| martinkennelly | jrosser: I see. Ill have a read through the discussions surrounding this now. Thanks. | 13:44 |
| martinkennelly | jamesdenton: thanks for the update! | 13:45 |
| mnaser | evrardjp: jrosser noonedeadpunk please check 661994 | 13:45 |
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| jrosser | martinkennelly: perhaps take a look at this https://www.openstack.org/videos/summits/denver-2019/pushing-packets-how-do-the-ml2-drivers-stack-up | 13:46 |
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| martinkennelly | jrosser: Cheeers, will take a look:) | 13:47 |
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| evrardjp | mnaser: better to isolate that into smaller chunks. Now we can tackle the package installation and the purpose of this patch. | 14:00 |
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| guilhermesp | mornings | 14:02 |
| ohwhyosa | morning! | 14:02 |
| guilhermesp | thanks for the eyes on db-refactor stuff! we are almost there, just a few things to fix and we have our db stuff refactored! | 14:02 |
| spatel | morning folks | 14:03 |
| spatel | i need help here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1834394 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1834394 in openstack-ansible "os_octavia : Setup the service project quota endpoint for block-storage service in RegionOne region not found" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Jonathan Rosser (jrosser) | 14:04 |
| ohwhyosa | hey guys, I tried with an openstack-ansible stein stable with pretty much everything default except for novnc instead of spice, and the console still throws an invalid token and does not work | 14:04 |
| ohwhyosa | https://pastebin.com/qq5GkxSJ | 14:04 |
| ohwhyosa | ^--> That error | 14:04 |
| jrosser | spatel: see this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664551/ | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_trove master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/665741 | 14:05 |
| jrosser | spatel: i put tons of effort currently into fixing the octavia CI job, there are lots of fixes need merging | 14:05 |
| spatel | jrosser: I did that but if you look at bug its something else going on | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/665737 | 14:05 |
| spatel | os_quota module looking for block-storage which i don't have | 14:06 |
| ohwhyosa | hi jrosser! forgot to tell you, thanks for the review on gerrit! | 14:06 |
| guilhermesp | jrosser: do you have a topic for those fixed so we can be reviewing ? | 14:07 |
| guilhermesp | fixes** | 14:07 |
| jrosser | spatel: i don't see that in an AIO here? | 14:07 |
| jrosser | guilhermesp: let me just do that | 14:08 |
| spatel | jrosser: I am not building AIO, i am building it on production 3 node controller. i did testing in AIO and it works because AIO build Cinder. | 14:08 |
| jrosser | spatel: ok - and do you have cinder in you prod deployment? | 14:09 |
| spatel | NO | 14:10 |
| spatel | I don't use cinder. | 14:10 |
| spatel | jrosser: i found this one during googling.. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/41240 | 14:14 |
| spatel | They are saying this bug has been fixed but look like not. | 14:14 |
| spatel | I did compare patch files and look like i do have all these patches in place - https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/45775/files | 14:15 |
| jrosser | spatel: out of interest how is your storage working? | 14:15 |
| spatel | I have ceph storage for nova so my vms use for disk, i don't need block-storage. | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_placement master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/665733 | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible stable/stein: Revert "Set CentOS 7 distro job to non-voting" https://review.opendev.org/665192 | 14:16 |
| jrosser | we'd normally be using ceph rbd via cinder - sounds like you have a configuration i'm not familiar with | 14:17 |
| spatel | my current cloud running without cinder, and ceph storage for my vms disk, last 1 year my cloud is running like that | 14:20 |
| mgariepy | you are running ephemeral vms on ceph. | 14:20 |
| spatel | Cinder is just to add extra piece of storage and i don't use it because we don't need disk, all we need CPU / memory for out business | 14:21 |
| spatel | mgariepy: Yes we can say that | 14:21 |
| mgariepy | cinder is for more ""persistant"" disk. | 14:21 |
| spatel | Yes cinder is for presistant | 14:21 |
| spatel | we don't care about data truly speaking.. we are streaming company and just stream data using CPU and memory | 14:22 |
| spatel | that is why i didn't deploy cinder to reduce complexity and make it more simple. | 14:23 |
| jrosser | guilhermesp: i'm just running an aio_metal_octavia here to see where all the RAM gets chewed up | 14:23 |
| guilhermesp | nice jrosser I haven't had time to test it locally, but I have added a depends-on here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664888/ but seems to be breaking on debian too | 14:25 |
| jrosser | guilhermesp: ah we don't wind down the octavia threads/processes on any octavia tests it seems | 14:25 |
| jrosser | let me patch that | 14:25 |
| guilhermesp | cool jrosser | 14:25 |
| jrosser | was the same for placement | 14:25 |
| guilhermesp | that one right ? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/667898/ | 14:27 |
| guilhermesp | maybe this patech is in a wrong topic? | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_placement master: Fix aio_distro_metal jobs for openSUSE https://review.opendev.org/666298 | 14:32 |
| jrosser | guilhermesp: yes thats it, well i just put in the same topic everything i have on the go for reducing the AIO memory footprint | 14:33 |
| guilhermesp | fair enough jrosser | 14:33 |
| guilhermesp | i did my review on those that are +1 | 14:33 |
| guilhermesp | reviews* | 14:33 |
| * guilhermesp typing crazy always | 14:34 | |
| jrosser | thankyou - i've still not found a combination of all of those that make octavia pass yet so theres still some more fiddling to do | 14:34 |
| guilhermesp | feels like we are in the right path to make it work | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Restrict the number of octavia processes and threads in AIO https://review.opendev.org/667941 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova master: Install netcat on compute hosts https://review.opendev.org/666759 | 14:59 |
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| jrosser | oh wow introducing placement service and not capping the processes/threads cost us 1.1GB of ram | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic master: Use ironic credentials when connecting to other APIs. https://review.opendev.org/667957 | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | jrosser: if there is ram, let's use it! :p | 15:16 |
| jrosser | yeah, till the tests fail :) | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | :D | 15:16 |
| mnaser | evrardjp: you're nitpicking now. | 15:16 |
| mnaser | all the change does is make things work for rhel 8 at this point | 15:16 |
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| mnaser | and the rescue doesnt hurt anyone except make it useful because clearly | 15:17 |
| mnaser | there is a note that says | 15:17 |
| evrardjp | Did I miss something? It's possible... I am just human | 15:17 |
| mnaser | "workaround for cryptic ansible dnf error: MarkingError: no package matched which may hide the packages names." | 15:17 |
| mnaser | which makes it impossible to know which ones were attempted to be installed. | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Install user supplied CA certificates into system trust store https://review.opendev.org/641445 | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Update the list of python3 packages https://review.opendev.org/661994 | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Update the list of python3 packages https://review.opendev.org/661994 | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Update the list of python3 packages https://review.opendev.org/661994 | 15:23 |
| jrosser | and a further 1.4G saved by turning down the octavia threads/processes | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Update the list of python3 packages https://review.opendev.org/661994 | 15:24 |
| mnaser | ^ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/661994/16 | 15:24 |
| mnaser | can we please land this now? | 15:24 |
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| jrosser | right this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/667898/ and this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/667941/ together knock 2.5G off the memory footprint on octavia tests - that should hopefully unwedge that role | 15:29 |
| mnaser | jrosser thanks for your efforts | 15:30 |
| jrosser | mnaser: no worries - whilst i have a test env up i'll see if theres anything else chewing up a bunch of ram | 15:30 |
| mnaser | jrosser: this is probably a good thing to look into generalizing across roles | 15:31 |
| mnaser | jrosser: i wonder if defaults/workers.yml could be a thing we sync across roles | 15:31 |
| jrosser | could be - right now there is a huge user_variables.yml.j2 that this all ends up in | 15:31 |
| mnaser | yeah, and then we can have some sort of default in the integrated | 15:31 |
| mnaser | so all roles can use the same 'base' setting | 15:31 |
| mnaser | cause right now we have to override it in every single one which is a bit..... eh | 15:32 |
| jrosser | though the settings we have in the role defaults are for prod rather than CI | 15:32 |
| jrosser | we could reverse that | 15:32 |
| mnaser | yea but even then, we don't even have them in a way where you can configure it everywhere at once | 15:32 |
| mnaser | i.e. you have to configure # of workers for every single role | 15:32 |
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| spatel | reboot | 15:41 |
| spatel | sorry wrong window | 15:41 |
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| evrardjp | mnaser: I wasn't sure if you had a planning for OSA in shanghai, so I copy pasted the last convos/todo into that: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-shanghai-summit-planning | 15:51 |
| noonedeadpunk | evrardjp: do you have plans to visit it? | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server master: Replace opensuse 42.3 functional testing with opensuse-15 https://review.opendev.org/667683 | 16:16 |
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| guilhermesp | jrosser: maybe sahara is also running into the same issue as octavia... https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-ansible-os_sahara | 16:46 |
| jrosser | You can see it easily in th nova compute log, failure to allocate memory | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Switch to openSUSE Leap 15.1 https://review.opendev.org/667302 | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Switch to openSUSE Leap 15.1 https://review.opendev.org/667303 | 18:04 |
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| guilhermesp | yep jrosser http://logs.openstack.org/38/665738/1/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_metal_sahara-debian-stable/69a0c6a/logs/openstack/aio1-nova/nova-conductor.log.txt.gz#_2019-06-22_06_01_24_112 | 18:30 |
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| mgariepy | jrosser, endpoint group filter aren't really great for now ;) | 18:30 |
| mgariepy | lots of broken bits here and there | 18:31 |
| guilhermesp | so jrosser I assume we'd do the same here for sahara https://review.opendev.org/#/c/667898/1/tests/roles/bootstrap-host/templates/user_variables.aio.yml.j2 | 18:35 |
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| spatel | Any idea - http://paste.openstack.org/show/753522/ | 18:41 |
| spatel | I did try to upgrade module but same error - pip install --upgrade decorate | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Guilherme Steinmuller Pimentel proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Restrict the number of sahara processes and threads in AIO https://review.opendev.org/668019 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Guilherme Steinmuller Pimentel proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_sahara master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/665738 | 18:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Guilherme Steinmuller Pimentel proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: db_setup: refactor database setup to a common file https://review.opendev.org/664888 | 18:47 |
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| spatel | crap openstack document need to update, i did pip install --ignore-installed python-openstackclient and that works | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Use the admin endpoint to upload glance images https://review.opendev.org/667791 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_heat master: Switch to openSUSE Leap 15.1 https://review.opendev.org/668055 | 21:23 |
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