Tuesday, 2018-04-03

cloudnullthrowsb1 I've seen that behavior on test clouds using flat networks when there was an upstream DHCP server.00:13
cloudnullosnaya: yes, if your network node is the same as the infra node you'll need an IP on the br-vxlan interface, which will act as a tunnel endpoint.00:14
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osnaya@cloudnull got it. thanks.00:16
cloudnullanytime00:17
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osnaya@cloudnull @odyssey4me another quick clarification - I have created br-mgmt and vxlan related bridges already. Please clarify if VLAN (untagged) is mandatory or optional? (Docs don't spell it as optional unlike br-storage config. But I am guessing br-VLAN (tenant vlan) should be optional. Right?01:11
cloudnullits optional and depends on your openstack_user_config.yml01:13
cloudnulltypically tagged traffic is on that bridge01:13
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osnaya@cloudnull Just want to make sure my interpretation is right. In my /etc/network/interfaces on both infra1 (controller+network) and compute1 - I have created br-mgmt:tagged traffic (VLAN10) and br-vxlan:tagged traffic (VLAN 20 for tunnel overlay). Considering br-vlan (untagged) and br-storage to be optional. That should be OK (please confirm and will double check on openstack_user_config.yml accordingly.01:19
cloudnullthat'll be ok, your instances may not have the ability to route out traffic however without doing something further upstream for your vxlan networks but that's perfectly functional as-is01:21
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cloudnullgenerally vlan or flat networks are used as provider networks, and vxlan or gre is used for tenant networks and they're connected using a router.01:23
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osnaya@cloudnull thanks. For the first attempt of deployment, I will go with this. Then build up from there.01:28
cloudnullcool01:32
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harryhuang_evrardjp: hi, the workaround of creating user_fixpip.yml did work with pip_packages set to only pip==9.0.106:15
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_searchlight master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837206:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_watcher master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837306:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_trove master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837406:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837506:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837606:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_heat master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837906:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_designate master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837706:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_sahara master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837806:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838006:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838106:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838306:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_barbican master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838206:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838406:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cloudkitty master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838506:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_zaqar master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838606:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838806:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838906:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55839006:17
openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838706:17
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_gnocchi master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55839106:20
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evrardjpharryhuang_: yes but it's a bad idea06:56
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evrardjpguys please let's stop being trigger happy with the rechecks.06:59
evrardjpwhen I see that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558229/1 I see 3 useless rechecks, and NO reason explaining the reason of the recheck.07:00
evrardjpd34dh0r53: cjloader cloudnull ^07:00
openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [WIP] Use dstat freespace plugin  https://review.openstack.org/55796507:01
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evrardjpd34dh0r53: if you want to help on the releases there are a few things to do, ping me when available.07:52
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archjunhello - I'm having a problem with installing pip packages in OSA07:54
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archjunthink it has to do with requirements being ignored07:55
archjunlots of pkg's ignored with: "python_version == \"3.5\"' don't match your environment"07:55
archjunany tips would be most appreciated ;)07:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ansible-config_template master: Add support for --diff  https://review.openstack.org/55496808:05
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Install plugins for standard services  https://review.openstack.org/55461108:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_trove master: Updated from OpenStack Ansible Tests  https://review.openstack.org/55694008:29
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder master: Revert "Convert role to use a common systemd service role"  https://review.openstack.org/55842708:34
evrardjpcloudnull: ^ could you have a look, in order to revert the revert ?08:35
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evrardjphwoarang: are you there? I am looking for the reason why we are not using priority in https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_client/blob/master/tasks/galera_client_install_yum.yml#L74 for https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_client/blob/master/tasks/galera_client_install_yum.yml#L9808:51
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone master: Use the venv contents instead of a git source for templates  https://review.openstack.org/55824008:53
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hwoarangevrardjp: hello. sorry i am confused. I dont know why we are not using priorities in yum09:00
evrardjpI am building a local machine09:00
hwoarangbut yum is redhat so i wouldn't know ;p09:00
evrardjpyes but it's your patch09:00
evrardjp"NOTE(hwoarang):"09:00
evrardjp"NOTE(hwoarang):";)09:00
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evrardjpsorry for the repeat there09:00
hwoarangah sorry i was looking at line 7409:00
evrardjpyeah no worries I am cleaning this up after local test, and adding tests in the role09:01
hwoarangyes you should be able to merge these two tasks09:01
evrardjpYes I think, I am trying locally, as I said :)09:05
evrardjpalso that would fix idempotency and we can bring a pending patch that's been rechecked a few times for no reason09:05
evrardjphaha09:05
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David__Hello, in a new environmet with ubuntu 16.04 OSA 17.0.0, i'm getting following error in the repo-build.yml  Playbook, can anyone assist me?09:06
David__fatal: [rgb-infra1_repo_container-d268688e]: FAILED! => {"attempts": 5, "changed": false, "cmd": "/usr/local/bin/pip2 install -U --isolated --constraint /opt/global-requirement-pins.txt -- constraint https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/plain/upper-constraints.txt?id=207ac2e166f0874b7ff891535bdb78ecf36cabc6  ", "msg": "stdout: Ignoring jsbeautifier: markers 'python_version == \"3.4\"' don't match your env09:06
evrardjpDavid__: I will issue a queens release today that has the fix included09:06
evrardjpyou could either run from head of the queens branch09:07
evrardjpor wait a little09:07
evrardjpfor the next tag09:07
evrardjpdamn my laptop battery is dead -- jumps from 10% to 90% randomly09:07
David__thanks a lot!09:07
evrardjpit's annoying09:07
evrardjpDavid__: sorry for that !09:08
evrardjpFYI it's a new pip version that doesn't accept an empty package list anymore09:08
evrardjpbut also other stuff09:08
evrardjpgit checkout stable/queens and re-deploy if you want to have it now :)09:09
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David__thanks, we tried to figure out the problem for some hours, but don't get a solution. Next time i will ask sooner in this channel. Answer in less a minute, to fix  my problem, amazing! ;)09:13
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evrardjphwoarang: demystified: It doesn't work :p09:16
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hwoarang:(09:19
hwoarangwhat doesnt work? priority is still 99 on repo addition? that sounds like a bug in the module i suppose no?09:19
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evrardjpso that's very interesting09:24
evrardjpI think it's yum-config-manager that sucks09:24
evrardjpso09:24
hwoarangwhy yum-config-manager? is that what the yum_repository module is using?09:24
evrardjpyum-config-manager --enable MariaDB --setopt="MariaDB.priority=25" outputs something with priority 2509:24
evrardjpbut you run it again09:24
evrardjpwith09:25
evrardjpyum-config-manager09:25
evrardjpand you see the priority option not appearing09:25
evrardjpthe mariaDB file doesn't get updated at all09:26
hwoarangbut i was talking about dropping this task altogether and using priority: 25 in yum_repository module in the previous task09:26
hwoarangwouldn't that work?09:26
evrardjpchanging and using the ansible yum_repository09:26
evrardjpfor setting the priority09:26
evrardjpchanges the file09:26
evrardjpbut it doesn't behave like yum-config-manager09:27
evrardjpthat's my point09:27
evrardjpso I was wondering what's the difference09:27
evrardjpand basically I see tht you have to ENABLE the plugin for it to be handled09:27
evrardjpwhich is basically dropping a file09:27
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hwoarangok09:31
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evrardjpso basically we have a lot of work there to do the right thing09:32
hwoarangi dont understand the problem 100% to be honest :)09:32
evrardjpme neither -- but I can tell you that after running galera_client we are not respecting ANY priority that was set in the role09:33
evrardjpnot sure how it's done for suse09:33
hwoarangso you say, that in the current situation, priority is still 99 at the end?09:34
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odyssey4meevrardjp great work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557650/5 - I've noted a few small changes needed, but like the stuff that's been done there09:39
odyssey4meDavid__ you'll find that it's well worth monitoring the chatter in this channel and the patches in the review queue09:40
odyssey4meDavid__ it may be useful to know about the IRC logs that are stored at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/ :)09:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create master: Remove veth wiring check for machine-id  https://review.openstack.org/55815809:41
evrardjpodyssey4me: I think it's a start indeed :)09:45
evrardjpwe have the specs to bring and the top help wanted09:45
evrardjpbut at least it gives an idea of the restructure09:45
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_client master: Make galera_client role idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/55100109:54
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Rename haproxy conf.d directory to templates  https://review.openstack.org/44523110:20
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admin0i was also facing the same issue as David__  .. in my case, the initail deploy worked .. then i noticed 2nd rabbitmq broken .. tried to delete and recreate and faced that issue10:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Fix lxc-system-manage ipv6 setup  https://review.openstack.org/55815610:41
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca-ui master: Initial OSA zuul v3 role jobs  https://review.openstack.org/51692211:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837611:15
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David__odyssey4me: tahnks for the hint!11:20
David__evrardjp: after updatding my repository with stable/queens i still get following error: markers 'python_version == \"3.4\"' don't match your environment\nIgnoring watchdog: markers 'python_version == \"3.5\"' don't match your environment\nIgnoring pathtools:  markers 'python_version == \"3.4\"' don't match your environment\nIgnoring pathtools: markers 'python_version == \"3.5\"' don't match your environment\nIgnoring sort11:22
David__evrardjp: maybe the fix is not included or another issue?11:22
odyssey4meDavid__ please make use of paste.openstack.org or similar services for log outputs11:22
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odyssey4meDavid__ also, after checkout stable/queens out did you bootstrap-ansible again to pull in the updated roles?11:23
odyssey4meat that point you're effectively doing a minor upgrade, so you should be doing https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/queens/admin/upgrades/minor-updates.html11:23
David__http://paste.openstack.org/show/718272/11:24
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David__odyssey4me: i did not bootstrap i will have a look to the documentation, thanks a lot!11:24
odyssey4meDavid__ the error is there, showing that you didn't re-run the botstrap: ERROR: You must give at le|11:25
odyssey4meast one requirement to install11:25
odyssey4me*bootstrap11:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cloudkitty master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838511:30
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archjuni think the issue I experienced is the same as David__ describes11:34
archjunI filed a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/176057411:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1760574 in openstack-ansible "pip2 fails to install pkgs requiring python3 (dnspython3, mypy, etc)" [Undecided,New]11:34
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archjunbut I am on stable/pike; re-ran .../scripts/bootstrap-ansible.sh but still same issue11:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838411:36
archjunevrardjp applied a fix for the pip bug to stable/queens... will it be backported to stable/pike?11:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_watcher master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837311:38
evrardjparchjun: yes11:40
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evrardjpI will submit a release today for pike too11:40
archjunthank you thank you!11:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_zaqar master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838611:42
evrardjparchjun: which version of pip are you running?11:42
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_gnocchi master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55839111:43
archjunoriginally 9.0.1 but after running bootstrap it bumped up to pip 10.X11:43
odyssey4mearchjun the fix is on it's way to merging now: https://review.openstack.org/55822911:43
archjunhooray! thank you evrardjp11:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838111:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_designate master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837711:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838711:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ironic master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55838811:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55839012:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_sahara master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837812:09
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evrardjplogan-: thanks for the recheck -- sad we need it though.12:18
evrardjpI have changed the tempest timeouts in a patch12:19
evrardjpit works okayish12:19
evrardjpeither timeouts of builds, or successes for now12:19
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evrardjpI am retrying a few times12:19
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openstackgerritManuel Buil proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Provide support for ODL Oxygen  https://review.openstack.org/55333312:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: ARA: Prepare the ARA plugin for all the tests  https://review.openstack.org/55647512:29
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dmsimardodyssey4me: replied on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557921/12:38
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Developer docs refactor  https://review.openstack.org/55765012:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder master: Revert "Convert role to use a common systemd service role"  https://review.openstack.org/55842713:00
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55792113:18
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55792113:22
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evrardjpoh interesting, we didn't release any queens thing since the rc2 which was tagged .013:38
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55792113:40
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cloudnullmornings14:05
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cloudnullso what all needs working on today ?14:07
evrardjpcloudnull: I pushed a revert of your patch14:11
evrardjp(let me show you that)14:11
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evrardjphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/558427/14:12
evrardjpthat unblocked the master gates14:12
evrardjpso if you could revert the revert by fixing the initial problem, that would be nice14:12
evrardjpexcept that, we should be almost good, Pike sha bump needs to pass gates, but pike is slow, so we have to pray a little14:13
evrardjpthe rest is up to you.14:13
evrardjpcloudnull: we have meeting in 45 minutes, and after the meeting we have a demo from KeithMnemonic14:14
evrardjpso you know :)14:15
evrardjpDear cloudnull, DimGR, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, erikmwilson, mancdaz, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner, ayoung, prometheanfire, evrardjp, arbrandes, mhayden, scarlisle, luckyinva, ntt, javeriak, spotz, vdo, jmccrory, alextricity25, jasondotstar, admin0, michaelgugino, ametts, bgmccollum, darrenc, JRobinson__, asettle,14:15
evrardjpcolinmcnamara, thorst, adreznec, eil397, qwang,nishpatwa_, cathrichardson, drifterza, hwoarang, cshen, ullbeking, Tahvok -- meeting in 45 minutes!14:15
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spotzdear evrardjp, what if I want it in 44 minutes instad?:)14:18
evrardjpdear spotz that's fine for me :)14:19
spotzevrardjp: hehe14:20
openstackgerritShannon Mitchell proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Allow users to skip services to cut down on conflicts  https://review.openstack.org/55799914:20
evrardjpspotz: I think it's quite obvious that my meeting reminder was lost in the timezone changes, and is obviously of lesser quality!14:21
evrardjp:D14:21
evrardjpWill fetch it back from the logs14:21
matttevrardjp: are you suggesting in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557988/ that we should merge that in conjunction https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557711/, or that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557711/ should go in instead?14:21
mattt*with14:21
spotzevrardjp: Any update on the EOL tag?14:21
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evrardjpspotz: I will issue a series of releases today14:25
evrardjpin fact I am doing the first one right now14:26
evrardjpbut the roles have been EOLed now14:26
odyssey4meevrardjp mind if I tweak https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557711/1 briefly?14:26
evrardjpso you can pretty much say today14:26
evrardjpodyssey4me: go ahead14:26
evrardjpodyssey4me: I think this patch was shortly up before the discussion to disable the developer mode14:26
evrardjpbut I think it makes sense to remove the sha there14:27
evrardjpto avoid confusions14:27
TahvokWas it moved or some timezone changed?14:27
openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/queens: Update all SHAs for 17.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/55852314:28
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evrardjpTahvok: we decided at the PTG to move it to 5 UTC until daylight saving applies again14:28
evrardjpwhich was last week or the week before14:29
evrardjpso we are moving back to the 4 UTC time14:29
evrardjpand it will be 4PM utc until daylight saving I guess14:29
TahvokWell that's good. Now I'll be able join for the first 30 minutes :)14:30
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Remove unused tempest variables  https://review.openstack.org/55852414:31
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odyssey4meodd, it created a new patch - anyway, evrardjp ^14:33
odyssey4memattt ^14:33
evrardjpodyssey4me: that was also different branch14:33
odyssey4meheh, ok, now it makes sense14:33
evrardjpI can restore it for queens and update it to your standards14:34
evrardjpI don't recall why it wasn't necessary in master14:34
odyssey4meevrardjp I'll do that once it merges14:34
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evrardjpmaybe because it was already testing14:34
evrardjpthink about merging the other patch of mattt with it14:34
evrardjp:)14:34
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odyssey4meevrardjp yes, that's the intent14:35
odyssey4meI'll combine them14:35
evrardjpthanks14:35
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fghaasI'm gonna cry. I just finished up my latest OSA course update for stable/queens, and *now* evrardjp fixes up 17.0.2. :)14:44
evrardjpfghaas: I am sorry that should have been done on friday but...14:44
evrardjppbr/pip changes!14:45
evrardjpalso it's the first bump14:45
fghaasI was being facetious. I love the fact that y'all release so consistently that my courses are always a point release late. :)14:45
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evrardjphaha14:45
fghaass/late/behind/ actually14:45
evrardjpfghaas: do you auto generate parts of it?14:47
KeithMnemonicevrardip is the meeting in 13 minutes or 1 hour and 13 minutes? the link on the meeting page shows 2:47 PM UTC ATM14:47
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evrardjpKeithMnemonic: the OSA meeting is at 4PM UTC. Your presentation is at 5PM UTC.14:48
evrardjplet me double check if I did something wrong14:48
KeithMnemonicrgiht but earlier you mentioned 45 minutes14:48
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fghaasevrardjp what do you mean? Like, what would we autogenerate?14:49
evrardjpKeithMnemonic: OMG14:49
evrardjpUTC and gmt14:49
evrardjpsorry14:49
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KeithMnemonicnp, just making sure i had it right on my end14:49
evrardjphahah14:49
evrardjpI am terribad14:49
evrardjpTahvok: that's why you were surprised I guess14:50
evrardjpUTC vs GMT14:50
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evrardjpmy bad.14:50
evrardjpso everyone, sorry about the wrong call!14:51
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/ocata: Update all SHAs for 15.1.19  https://review.openstack.org/55853214:53
fghaasalso, if I may suggest one thing, always use a 24-hour format when scheduling in UTC, for the following reason: which of 12PM and 12AM is noon and which is midnight is not normally obvious to people outside UK/US/CA/AU. (also, it makes no sense whatsoever in principle, because 12 hours post meridiem is clearly midnight, as is 12 hours ante meridiem)14:54
evrardjpfghaas: good point.14:54
cjloadero/14:54
evrardjpfghaas: I was simply asking how we can help you to be not lagging behind :)14:55
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fghaasOh. You can't, really. Because the only thing that would "help" is not making any functional changes, ever. :) Also, we don't track every point release. We just do monthly course refreshes and run with whatever is available at the time.14:56
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fghaasIt's just that the April refresh for us is the Pike→Queens major release switch, so it's a little more work than usual.14:56
evrardjpok14:57
evrardjpfghaas: when does the monthly course refresh land? Because if you land it on the first week of the month, you'd get the end release and be on time14:58
evrardjpend of month*14:58
spotzfghaas: Your courses are much more up to date then mine, but then I'm mainly doing cert courses14:58
evrardjpat least for the beginning of month14:59
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evrardjpI am wondering if we should continue to do 2 releases per month14:59
fghaasWell we aim for new course runs to land on the first of the month. I'm a couple of days late because of the holiday, so they'll land in about 3 hours. :)14:59
fghaasBut really, unless there is something that actually breaks (like that Glance issue in 16.0.9), we're totally cool with trailing behind by a point release.15:01
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evrardjpok15:04
spotzfghaas: It's not actually a bad idea to run slightly behind if you're doing points only because most admin aren't going to jump on the latest unless there's a must have in it15:04
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evrardjpI'd like to ask the general question of who is using a tag, vs who is at the head of each branch15:08
evrardjpI will send something on the ML15:08
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spotzevrardjp: Well our instructions say to look for the latest tag FYI. When I install devstack/packstack I go for stable/pike currently15:09
d34dh0r53is it meeting times?15:09
spotzd34dh0r53: maybe....15:10
d34dh0r53or has it moved to 16:00?15:10
fghaasspotz: correct, which is why our current course installs Pike, and then does a rolling upgrade to Queens. Admins tend to care about this upgrade thing. :)15:12
TahvokSo was it moved by 1 hour?15:12
TahvokI'm confused now15:12
spotzYo SAT folks going to summit, taking a late flight back on Firday if you want to sight see:)15:12
spotzfghaas: I have yet to try an upgrade, may need to play a bit and see how it's working. If for no other reason than to verify our docs15:13
fghaasspotz: want me to shoot you a course invite so we can swap notes?15:13
d34dh0r53evrardjp: sorry, my IRC client didn't notify me of your message, just saw it in scrollback15:13
spotzfghaas: Sure, I should be able to play some next week in the evenings. Need to update my lunch and learn this weekend and include Storyboard as it sounds like a bunch of folks are making the move15:14
fghaasspotz, can do! (summoning mhayden for a proper "can do" gif)15:15
spotzfghaas: hehehe, he might answer:)15:16
evrardjpd34dh0r53: it wasn't moved, I just did the reminder wrong15:17
evrardjpspotz: you're right15:17
evrardjpI don't plan to get rid of tags no15:17
evrardjpjust taking more time15:17
evrardjpwondering who is using them, and at which frequency15:17
evrardjpif it's consume by ppl on a bi-weekly basis, then we won't change15:18
spotzevrardjp: My guess is Yes tags due to our docs, but frequency will be new info for us15:18
evrardjpbut worst case here is that fghaas could be lagging 2 releases behind, which is inconsistent to his one week goal.15:18
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evrardjpone release*15:18
d34dh0r53evrardjp: also re: the release process ;) but since we're doing the meeting it can wait15:18
evrardjpthe meeting is in 42 minutes, because I hate my outlook.15:19
evrardjp:p15:19
d34dh0r53haha15:19
evrardjpTahvok: I pinged you15:19
evrardjpI am sorry15:19
openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Downloads amphora images from artifact storage  https://review.openstack.org/55508415:19
evrardjpI confused outlook's UTC "London" with UTC "Universal Time Coordinated"15:19
spotzevrardjp: Slacker!15:20
evrardjpwhy would they call the first one UTC!15:20
evrardjpthat's insane15:20
d34dh0r53wow, Outlook has that?15:20
d34dh0r53that's crazy15:20
fghaaswelcome to BST, which as we all know stands for "bullsh*t time" :)15:20
fghaasBut yeah, calling it "UTC (London)" is ultra-evil.15:21
evrardjpfghaas: hahah15:21
cjloaderlets meet at 27:0015:21
fghaason the thirty-twelfth of Septober?15:21
evrardjpfghaas: hahahahahaha15:21
cjloaderyeah15:22
evrardjpcjloader: d34dh0r53 I think xgerman_ would love seeing your reviews on a few os_octavia patches :D15:22
xgerman_+115:22
cjloaderhaha15:23
evrardjpd34dh0r53: I am fine discussing the release process with you or with anyone interested15:23
Tahvokevrardjp: yeah, saw it15:23
evrardjpTahvok: so sorry for the mess up15:23
evrardjpthe wiki is still accurate15:23
TahvokAnyway, Tennis time for me now. Maybe I'll make for next week :)15:23
evrardjpit's my agenda which was wrong15:23
evrardjpahah ok!15:23
evrardjpEnjoy!15:23
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RandomTechhello everyone15:24
RandomTechhey idlemind are you busy?15:25
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foutatoroHi all, I would like to deploy openstack using ceph as ceinder backend.15:25
foutatoroI wonder if we need to install ceph (mons and osd) before deploying openstack or does the OSAD install ceph in storage target hosts ?15:25
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spotzfoutatoro: It should do it for you but I have not looked at the role15:30
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RandomTechfoutatoro: you are able to install ceph using osa by defining ceph-ansible specifics in openstack_user_config and user_variables15:38
RandomTechthats what im doing, but i havnt got a working setup yet to walk you through it15:39
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/newton: Update all SHAs for newton-eol  https://review.openstack.org/55853915:42
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foutatorospotz RandomTech: Thanks15:42
RandomTechno problem15:42
foutatorospotz RandomTech: which wiki/link did you use for the install with OSA15:43
RandomTechi used this foutatoro : https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/openstack-ansible/pike/deploymenthost.html#15:43
RandomTechof course i havnt got it working yet15:43
evrardjpcores, I've added you to the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558539/15:43
evrardjpplease vote I'll +W :)15:44
spotzfoutatoro: You can reach all our docs at https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/15:44
evrardjpso that we kill this one together as a team!15:44
spotzWoot and then I can fix the date on my patch!:)15:44
evrardjpyes15:46
spotzYou have a happily and a woot so far:)15:47
evrardjpanyone welcome to review it btw, not just cores :)15:47
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evrardjpwe have already the quorum for merging this, but I'd like to see more ppl voting on this :)15:49
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evrardjpok15:55
evrardjpthe meeting is in 5 minutes now!15:55
evrardjpthis time I am not wrong I think15:55
evrardjp:p15:55
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odyssey4mecores, can we get some reviews for https://review.openstack.org/557921 and https://review.openstack.org/558524 please15:57
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evrardjpDear cloudnull, DimGR, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, erikmwilson, mancdaz, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner, ayoung, prometheanfire, evrardjp, arbrandes, mhayden, scarlisle, luckyinva, ntt, javeriak, spotz, vdo, jmccrory, alextricity25, jasondotstar, admin0, michaelgugino, ametts, bgmccollum, darrenc, JRobinson__, asettle,16:00
evrardjpcolinmcnamara, thorst, adreznec, eil397, qwang,nishpatwa_, cathrichardson, drifterza, hwoarang, cshen, ullbeking, Tahvok16:00
evrardjpHere is our agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible16:00
evrardjp#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  3 16:00:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is evrardjp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting'16:00
d34dh0r53o/16:00
evrardjp#topic What happened since last meeting16:01
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evrardjpprometheanfire has a new spec that needs some eyes: https://review.openstack.org/55658616:01
evrardjpother ppl have open specs too16:01
evrardjptonyb has EOLed newton roles. The newton release will be EOL soon.16:01
mattto/16:01
evrardjpplease review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558539/ for that16:02
hwoarango/16:02
evrardjpevrardjp reminded on the ML the etherpad for vancouver forum: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-openstack-ansible-brainstorming16:02
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evrardjpevrardjp said he will do the usual release at the end of the week for all branches, including newton, and bump master. But due to pbr/pip unconstrained, the release has been delayed to this Tuesday.16:02
evrardjp(Some are gone already, pike pending)16:02
evrardjpand last but not least16:02
evrardjpKeithMnemonic will do a demo of SUSE config processor and Ardana after the meeting of April, 3rd (5PM utc). https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/86894102116:02
evrardjp#topic bug triage16:03
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spotzevrardjp: Hey might have just found a bug, should https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-ansible/plain/doc/source/user/aio/scenario-table-gen.html be empty?16:03
evrardjpI guess a few bugs will be linked to the new version of pbr/pip16:03
evrardjpspotz: yes it's fine16:03
spotzok:)16:03
evrardjpbuilding the docs would generate it16:03
evrardjplet's head to our first bug16:04
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/176057416:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1760574 in openstack-ansible "pip2 fails to install pkgs requiring python3 (dnspython3, mypy, etc)" [Undecided,New]16:04
evrardjpdid we have a bug for the pip thing odyssey4me ?16:05
odyssey4meevrardjp not to my knowledge16:05
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evrardjpyeah so we can't mark this as duplicate16:05
evrardjpI'll mark this manually as fix commited16:06
evrardjpok for everyone? Critical + Fix commited16:06
odyssey4meja16:06
evrardjpnext16:06
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/176021916:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1760219 in openstack-ansible "Issues with osa-ops mnaio service config with existing entries" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Shannon Mitchell (shannon-mitchell)16:06
openstackgerritAmy Marrich (spotz) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [DOC] Update for Newton EOL  https://review.openstack.org/55131616:07
evrardjpI saw a patch for that16:07
evrardjpI will just remind the user to mark this in the bug16:07
evrardjpto mark the bug in the patch*16:07
* cloudnull is late, o/16:07
openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Allow users to skip services to cut down on conflicts  https://review.openstack.org/55799916:08
evrardjpok typo corrected.16:08
evrardjpok next16:08
odyssey4melooks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557999/ is looking to solve that bug16:08
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175989616:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759896 in openstack-ansible "Placing certificate on keystone containers does not work" [Undecided,New]16:08
evrardjpodyssey4me: yes there was a typo in the bug I just fixed it16:09
evrardjpyou can review :)16:09
evrardjplet's go to next one16:09
evrardjpThere is documentation16:10
evrardjppointed to it in the bug16:11
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evrardjpmaybe the bug is asking for more documentation, or pointing to an issue16:11
evrardjpbut I am not sure to understand the problem16:11
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matttmaybe link to the docs and see if that sorts it out?  :)  i'm not familiar enough w/ what he's doing to understand where it's going wrong.16:12
evrardjpok16:13
evrardjpyeah16:13
evrardjplet's see16:13
evrardjpmoving on then!16:13
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175987316:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759873 in openstack-ansible "[osa 16.0.9] gnocchi does not build anymore" [Undecided,New]16:13
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evrardjpI guess that one is the PBR issue16:14
evrardjpodyssey4me: am I wrong?16:14
logan-agree16:14
evrardjpok16:14
evrardjpMarked it as fix commited and critical16:15
evrardjpnext16:15
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175978416:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759784 in openstack-ansible "Gate jobs don't cover Glance image upload to non-NFS file store" [Undecided,New]16:15
RossSchulman[m]Given a server that only has 2 NICs, is it better to bond them for redundancy or separate them for isolation?16:16
logan-when we were discussing the other day, odyssey4me said the basic computekit test uses glance w/ file store, so this should have coverage in branches that have the computekit test16:16
evrardjpyes16:17
odyssey4methis will be easier to implement with https://review.openstack.org/55179116:17
evrardjpthe others have the integrated with swift but computekit could be with file16:17
evrardjpagreed with what odyssey4me said there16:18
evrardjpif anyone has extra cycles for it, we can work on this16:18
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evrardjplet's classify this bug, shall we?16:19
evrardjpofc it's confirmed16:19
evrardjpbut now... is that a wishlist, or is that an issue16:19
evrardjpfor me code without test is a bug16:19
evrardjp:p16:19
logan-considering we learned computekit has coverage for this i dont think there is a bug at all16:20
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/ansible-role-systemd_service master: Add a documentation list default  https://review.openstack.org/55855316:20
logan-the computekit test was implemented after the commit that broke file backend16:20
logan-iirc16:20
evrardjpbut because it would be hard to backport to coverage I'd say it's maybe wiser to mark it as wishlist16:20
evrardjpdo we have computekit in P?16:20
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odyssey4mewell, right now we use compute kit for opensuse/centos... so it is gate tested16:21
evrardjpwe do not16:21
logan-not in pike correct16:21
evrardjpyeah but not in the branch asked there16:21
odyssey4meoh yeah, not in p16:21
evrardjpI'd classify this as confirmed and wishlist16:21
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evrardjpit's not urgent because we have coverage in upper branches16:22
evrardjpanyone willing to backport the test suite is welcomed16:22
logan-wfm16:22
evrardjpgood16:22
evrardjpnext16:23
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175972116:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759721 in openstack-ansible "Prepare the deployment host in OpenStack-Ansible" [Undecided,New]16:23
evrardjpoh I see16:24
odyssey4meah https://rdoproject.org/repos/openstack-pike/rdo-release-pike.rpm16:24
evrardjpyeah16:24
evrardjpsame for suse16:24
odyssey4mew're going to have to add a substitution there16:24
evrardjpvery hidden thing16:24
odyssey4meI can pick that up if you like16:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Allow users to skip services to cut down on conflicts  https://review.openstack.org/55799916:24
evrardjplooks valid , low hanging fruit and medium?16:24
evrardjpodyssey4me: I'd rather see other contributors fixing it but fine for me :)16:24
odyssey4meyep16:25
evrardjpok next then16:25
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175932316:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759323 in openstack-ansible "Script to check for requirements" [Undecided,New]16:25
evrardjpmmm16:26
evrardjpthat seem hard16:26
evrardjphow can we assume what will be installed?16:26
evrardjpthe only way I can see is if we build some kind of wizard tool16:26
evrardjp(which could leverage the bootstrap-hosts role)16:27
evrardjpwhat would you think?16:27
mattti don't understand the ask, personally16:27
evrardjpit seems outside the scope to build the openstack architecture for the deployer16:27
odyssey4meah yes, I remember this16:28
evrardjpI guess the deployer forgot a group16:28
odyssey4mebasically it's an inventory check16:28
odyssey4meif you're deploying nova, you need glance right? but we allow you to deploy an environment without it16:28
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odyssey4mesimilar that if you have compute, but no nova control plane hosts... we allow that, but it won't work16:29
dmsimardodyssey4me: so you'll have ara reports for all jobs now ? :D16:29
odyssey4methis guy was missing glance and the nova control plane stuff16:29
RandomTechIt was me, when i was checking over i didnt notice they were missing, niether did other people i had look at it16:30
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evrardjpok16:30
RandomTechit would be useful to have something that can tell you if something you listed is missing required parts16:30
evrardjpnot sure how we can help there though16:30
evrardjphow can we say you need glance?16:31
evrardjpwhat if you had it with something else16:31
admin0maybe a pre-check like    we have detected the followign componetns for install  - keystone, haproxy, bla bla bla .. press Y to proceed16:31
admin0just 1 time in the start16:31
evrardjpyeah so building some kind of wizard16:31
admin0or something like install-summary.py that will just show what components/env is detected16:31
RandomTechi was thinking either a precheck or a seperate script for troubleshooting/checking configs16:31
odyssey4meevrardjp sure, but it'd be nice to have some way of checking the config and outputting some warnings16:32
admin0just to check if the install script/inventory sees all16:32
RandomTechsimilar to " openstack-ansible setup-infrastructure.yml --syntax-check "16:32
admin0 --setup-check16:32
admin0all it needs to do is output the projects it sees16:32
evrardjpodyssey4me: let's think about an actual deployer example which has things running in multiple dcs..16:32
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evrardjp(you know who)16:32
persiaDon't forget the case where someone set up some component a different way, so it isn't in the o-a yaml.16:32
odyssey4meevrardjp this is to help the newbies, not to prevent complex configs16:33
evrardjppersia: exactly!16:33
odyssey4meit helps people who're trying to get to grips with the basics16:33
RandomTechyes us newbies need help16:33
evrardjpok so I think with this conversation we have a wishlist item16:33
odyssey4meyes, absolutely16:33
evrardjpRandomTech: :)16:33
evrardjpwizard like16:33
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evrardjpgot it16:34
odyssey4meI don't think it needs a wizard, but we will need to add some checks which validate known dependencies for services that have multiple groups, and then also for inter-service deps.16:34
matttcould this be documented better in sample user configs, etc. ?16:35
odyssey4mePerhaps that, to you, is a wizard. :)16:35
matttperhaps sample configs aren't optimal16:35
evrardjpmattt: we have sample configs16:35
matttlast i looked they were super detailed though, kind of hard to read16:35
evrardjpmattt: the user stories should be easy to follow16:36
mattti'm just wondering if there's another way to help avoid this situation16:36
evrardjpmore than the same config16:36
odyssey4mewe could probably edit the samples to use anchors like the ceph example does - that'd make it a bit easier to read16:36
RandomTechmattt: i agree that they can be hard to read, the problem was that multiple people missed the fact that i only had part of the compute services defined16:36
evrardjpodyssey4me: I've seen so many ppl confused by that16:36
odyssey4mewell, short of saying - you need to understand openstack before you can put your config together (which is not friendly), I'm not sure that docs can really solve it unless we try to document our group deps and the openstack deps16:37
evrardjpRandomTech: I think if we clarify the groups in the future, it should help16:37
RandomTechi believe so16:37
evrardjpok so that will be part of a spec I am writing for now16:37
evrardjplet's move on16:37
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175814416:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758144 in openstack-ansible "resolv.conf in containers set too late" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Logan V (loganv)16:38
logan-have not had time to work on that yet sadly16:38
logan-hopefully this week16:38
evrardjplogan-: I guess with the latest pip things you couldn't work on it?16:38
evrardjpok16:38
evrardjpthanks16:38
evrardjpnext16:39
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175582116:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1755821 in openstack-ansible "config_template fails to parse template if it contains a comment with leading spaces" [High,New] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter)16:39
evrardjpcloudnull: ?16:39
* RossSchulman[m] didn't realize there was a bug triage meeting going on, apologies, will ask question again later.16:39
evrardjpRossSchulman[m]: no worries16:40
evrardjpcloudnull: doesn't seem here, so let's move on16:41
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/175207316:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1752073 in openstack-ansible "Neutron firewall_v2 driver missing" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Markos Chandras (hwoarang)16:41
hwoarangevrardjp: maybe this can be re-assigned to mbuil to work on it with peri16:42
evrardjpok16:42
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evrardjpnext16:44
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/174303216:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1743032 in openstack-ansible "Galera cluster maintenance in OpenStack-Ansible" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter)16:44
mbuilhwoarang, evrardjp: fine with me :)16:45
evrardjpmbuil: thanks!16:45
evrardjpI've updated the bug on LP, added it to you16:45
evrardjplet's move to next bug16:46
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/173782716:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1737827 in openstack-ansible "(ceph-client): setting 'nova_ceph_client' results in deployment where volumes can't be attached to VMs" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Andy McCrae (andrew-mccrae)16:46
evrardjpandymccr: ?16:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55792116:46
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evrardjpshould we mark this as incomplete?16:46
evrardjpok let's move on16:47
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/172926316:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1729263 in openstack-ansible "Swift (master) transient tempest failures under centos " [Undecided,New]16:47
evrardjpI haven't seen that for a while, but I haven't worked on swift role testing for a certain time16:48
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Ensure that RDO/SuSE series repo instructions stay up to date  https://review.openstack.org/55855816:49
evrardjpswift is also a very heavy memory consumer16:49
evrardjpso this might be hidden16:49
evrardjp(the memory consumption is also why I think we have so many issues in the integrated gates, we start to spike in memory usage after the swift playbook, to what I have noticed)16:50
matttare we still using 8 GB instances?16:50
evrardjpyes16:51
evrardjpdo you think it's possible to have bigger instances in os infra?16:51
odyssey4meit is not16:51
evrardjpok16:52
odyssey4mewe could make swift use a multi-node deployment if we like, but that makes testing outside the gates harder16:52
evrardjplet's continue the tests refactor then16:52
evrardjpodyssey4me: not really if we justify the use of vagrant16:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Remove unused tempest variables  https://review.openstack.org/55852416:52
odyssey4mewell, not everyone has a laptop with enough ram to do multiple nodes16:53
evrardjpand only for some scenarios16:53
evrardjpthat's true16:53
odyssey4meI would rather we see if we could reduce that memory footprint a bit16:53
evrardjpmaybe it's worth discussing with swift ppl16:53
evrardjpIn the meantime let's move on to next bug16:54
evrardjpwe have no more details for the bug in itself16:54
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evrardjpI'll mark it as incomplete16:54
evrardjpthe last one is the everlasting ceilometer one16:54
evrardjp#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/171951716:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1719517 in openstack-ansible "Ceilometer policy.json includes python unicode encoding" [Undecided,New]16:54
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evrardjpoh I guess it can be moved to fix released16:55
evrardjpwooot16:55
evrardjpFOLKS, it's been a while we got the chance to finish the triage!16:55
evrardjpcongratulations!16:55
evrardjp /insert party gif here.16:55
evrardjp#topic open discussion16:56
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evrardjpwe have a few minutes for an open discussion if you want16:56
evrardjpso keep in mind we have a demo in 4 minutes16:56
evrardjpthanks KeithMnemonic16:57
KeithMnemonicnp16:57
evrardjpI will paste the url once again (even if that was on the first links of the meeting)16:57
evrardjp https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/86894102116:57
evrardjpanything else?16:57
RandomTechwhats the demo about?16:58
KeithMnemonicdemoing the SUSE project Ardanda16:58
KeithMnemonicwhich is the rebranded HPE ansible stuff16:59
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evrardjpit's a way to learn of each other -- trying ways to collaborate16:59
KeithMnemonicthat was never collborated with you guys16:59
evrardjpanyway16:59
RandomTechof ya something i just noticed while using OSA for ceph16:59
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evrardjpRandomTech: ?16:59
evrardjp10 sec16:59
RandomTechit only added osd from 3/5 hosts i listed16:59
KeithMnemonicit is now opensource16:59
RandomTechnot sure if this is isolated to me or if multiple people have ran into this17:00
evrardjpRandomTech: I guess it can be discussed outside the meeting17:00
evrardjpor file a bug :)17:00
evrardjpOk wrapping up17:00
evrardjpthanks for your time everyone!17:00
evrardjp#endmeeting17:00
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KeithMnemonichttps://github.com/ArdanaCLM17:01
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Ensure that RDO/SuSE series repo instructions stay up to date  https://review.openstack.org/55855817:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Deprecate auth_uri option  https://review.openstack.org/55837517:11
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Ensure that RDO/SuSE series repo instructions stay up to date  https://review.openstack.org/55855817:12
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matttwhy do console logs show on builds sometimes and not others ?17:19
odyssey4memattt for a build that's in progress?17:24
odyssey4meor a build that's complete?17:24
matttodyssey4me: in progress17:25
matttseems like sometimes you get output and other times you don't17:25
mattt(http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=b601082cc24c46089a0f4fb993f0299d&logfile=console.log as an example)17:26
logan-works for me17:26
mattthuh, weird ... all i see is '--- END OF STREAM ---'17:27
odyssey4memattt if you're behind a vpn/firewall then it won't work17:29
odyssey4meit uses websockets and finger, and I don't think finger is normally allowed through vpn's/firewalls17:29
matttthat may explain why i was seeing it last night ... thanks @od17:30
matttodyssey4me :P17:31
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d34dh0r53mattt: take your @'s back to slack :)17:44
matttd34dh0r53: ugh, seriously!17:46
cjloader@d34dh0r53 =)17:47
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/queens: Disable developer mode for tempest role tests  https://review.openstack.org/55798817:50
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: Disable developer mode for tempest role tests  https://review.openstack.org/55798917:51
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/ocata: Disable developer mode for tempest role tests  https://review.openstack.org/55799017:53
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KeithMnemonicevrardjp: so Dan will start looking at the opensource plan in detail next week.  i told him you would like to chat with him17:55
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evrardjpKeithMnemonic: great.18:00
ansmithjmccrory: have a question for you if you are free18:02
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/queens: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55858618:02
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55858718:03
evrardjpit's late -- I am leaving for today18:04
evrardjpif you have anything to ask, just ping as usual18:04
evrardjptomorrow I will be working on an inventory alternative spec18:05
evrardjpand releasing pike18:05
evrardjpso you know18:05
jmccroryansmith hey, sure18:05
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ansmithgreat thanks, I am scoping out changes for the hybrid messaging support, which will introduce oslo.messaging rpc and notify vars in place of rabbitmq server18:06
ansmithjmccrory: in looking at ceilometer_all.yml it is setting up messaging_urls in anticipation of dedicated messaging nodes per service18:07
ansmithjmccrory: but it seems like all the urls will still be the single rabbitmq backend18:07
ansmithjmccrory: does that sound right?18:07
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jmccroryyeah, i think they all make use of the same backend by default, different virtual hosts18:08
ansmithjmccrory: ok, thanks, so messaging_urls in the ceilometer.conf may not be needed18:09
ansmithjmccrory: if that is the case...simplifies a bit18:10
ansmithjmccrory: actually, take that back, if they are different vhosts then messaging_urls will need to remain18:10
ansmithjmccrory: e.g. vhost per service18:11
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not generate the html ARA report any more  https://review.openstack.org/55858918:13
jmccroryansmith yeah, vhost per service is current way OSA services are deployed. enabling ceilometer turns on notifications for each service, but by default they will still make use of the same rabbit cluster and service vhost18:14
jmccroryhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova/blob/master/defaults/main.yml#L108-L11818:14
odyssey4meansmith jmccrory perhaps cloudnull can discuss whether individual vhosts would still be necessary given the separation of rpc messaging and of notifications18:15
odyssey4meI think they were added to help with scale in the cluster, but if a different architecture is used where scale is done differently, then the use of vhosts may not be necessary18:15
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odyssey4meI don't know if there's also a security benefit... that needs to be considered.18:16
ansmithseparating rpc from notify will certainly help with scale as the notify nodes will see a lot less messages18:17
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: bootstrap-host: Correct SuSE repo name  https://review.openstack.org/55859318:17
ansmiththe rabbitmq server is the only backend that has native vhost support, kafka for example would use the vhost as a topic extension18:17
ansmithe.g. no security benefit18:18
openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Downloads amphora images from artifact storage  https://review.openstack.org/55508418:19
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robertomlshi. i'm implementing something on keystone that uses subprocess to execute a script. i assume everything inside the keystone container is executed by the keystone user and not root, right? this script creates folder and files in the home of the user executing it. my question is: does subprocess inherits the privileges of the keystone process? and are those privileges very limited (idk what the keystone user can do by d18:21
robertomlsi'm having some problems that i think are related to permissions and such18:21
RossSchulman[m]I know the OSA default is to bond four network ports into two bonded pairs and split the bridges between them. In a server with only two ports is the redundancy of bonding more or less useful than the isolation of separating them?18:23
odyssey4meRossSchulman[m] OSA has no default, how you use your NICs is entirely up to you and we provide various examples18:24
odyssey4methe decision of whether to bond or to separate is really up to hwat you feel is more important for your use-case18:24
RossSchulman[m]odyssey4me: Fair enough, I guess I should say the examples show that configuration.18:26
RossSchulman[m]Ok, that's fine. I was just wondering if folks thought one was substantially better than the other.18:26
odyssey4meit's totally up to your priorities - people may have opinions, of course :)18:27
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odyssey4mecores, I'd like more reviews for https://review.openstack.org/558240 - it's a pattern I'd like to replicate across all roles so that we no longer need to carry templates for a bunch of things18:34
RossSchulman[m]People?? With opinions?!! On the internet?????18:35
RossSchulman[m]:)18:35
odyssey4me:)18:35
odyssey4mealright, I'm out for the night - cheerio all18:35
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RandomTechRossSchulman[m]: of course none of us have opinions. where did you get that silly idea?18:40
RandomTechnight odyssey4me18:41
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matttlogan-: can i ask you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558127/18:47
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RossSchulman[m]RandomTech: 🙂 Right? I don't know what I was thinking.18:52
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-pip_install master: Specify defaults for pip_install_upper_constraints  https://review.openstack.org/55859919:00
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logan-sure mattt whats up19:21
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spotzthanks cloudnull:)19:35
matttlogan-: n/m, created https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558599/ so review if/when you get a free moment :)19:36
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openstackgerritGerman Eichberger proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_octavia master: Downloads amphora images from artifact storage  https://review.openstack.org/55508419:41
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Add mount options for better machinectl performance  https://review.openstack.org/55796919:50
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openstackgerritAndy Smith proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: (WIP) Support oslo.messaging services for separate RPC and Notification  https://review.openstack.org/55861219:53
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RossSchulman[m]If I've come across a bug in the documentation, is launchpad the right place to report it?20:13
openstackgerritAndy Smith proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova master: (WIP) Update to use oslo.messaging services for RPC and Notify  https://review.openstack.org/55862020:15
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mattthwoarang: hey there, see http://paste.openstack.org/show/718323/20:19
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spotzRossSchulman[m]: Yes please with as much detail as possible. You should be able to open the bug directly from that page20:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone master: Use the venv contents instead of a git source for templates  https://review.openstack.org/55824020:30
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RossSchulman[m]spotz: Done!20:41
spotzpsst RossSchulman[m] can I have the link?:)20:41
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Add mount options for better machinectl performance  https://review.openstack.org/55796920:42
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RossSchulman[m]spotz: Sure thing! https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/176098520:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1760985 in openstack-ansible "Test Example rst file include failing on github" [Undecided,New]20:44
RossSchulman[m]Ok, at least 20 minutes have passed since my last basic question, time for another one!20:44
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RossSchulman[m]In the example configurations, the br-mgmt bridge is connected to a gateway at .1 which is supposed to route to the internet.20:44
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RossSchulman[m]Is that an openstack gateway or is it just whatever router you have in your datacenter that leads to the big fluffy cloud clipart?20:45
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spotzlooking through, added a link to the actual page in the bug20:48
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spotzRossSchulman[m]: So... that is the management network between the host and the containers20:49
spotzSo that is all internal networking20:52
RossSchulman[m]spotz: I may have been misunderstanding the point of the rst file... if it generates the HTML and isn't meant to be read on github, then that's not a bug.20:53
RossSchulman[m]But yes, that's the management hub.20:53
spotzRossSchulman[m]: Ahh the rst becomes the html on openstack.org20:53
RossSchulman[m]Hm, ok, but then look at the last bullet in the introduction of this page: https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/user/prod/example.html20:54
RossSchulman[m]spotz: Yeah, I got it. That's my mistake.20:54
spotzNP, so mark invalid?20:55
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RossSchulman[m]Yeah, that's fine20:57
RossSchulman[m]I just did20:58
spotzBut yeah if you find something that isn't rendered correctly, is incorrect or confusing please let us know20:59
RossSchulman[m]Always. :)21:00
RossSchulman[m]I'm a complete cloud deployment novice, so I probably won't file a bug for ANYTHING that's confusing...21:01
spotzWe try our best, but just cause something is clear for one person doesn't mean it's clear for everyone:)21:03
RossSchulman[m]:)21:04
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RossSchulman[m]My biggest questions come around how to integrate a small openstack test environment in our existing server setup with an eye toward it taking over from those other servers if it works out.21:05
RossSchulman[m]So the networking is "fun". :)21:05
RossSchulman[m]I think it might be useful to have some more detail in the "Overview" section of the docs regarding what sort of surrounding network structure OSA is either expecting or can work within.21:07
RossSchulman[m]But like I said, that could just be because I'm not experienced enough to see what is painfully obvious to others. 🙂21:08
spotzRossSchulman[m]: Well you might also want to check out Neutron's docs to understand how that works as well21:08
RossSchulman[m]Yeah, I've definitely been digging through the architecture guides for networking as well.21:11
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openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Update Ansible to 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/50181421:20
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