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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: [WIP] example playbook to build container images https://review.openstack.org/409490 | 02:25 |
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| winggundamth_ | wow so you cloudnull works on weekend too? | 02:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jirayut Nimsaeng proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: In Xenial. The main public interface name not always be eth0. So role bootstrap-host have to change from eth0 to ansible_default_ipv4.interface to get the correct default public interface name https://review.openstack.org/409494 | 02:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Jirayut Nimsaeng proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Fix main public interface name not always be eth0. https://review.openstack.org/409494 | 02:55 |
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| cloudnull | winggundamth_: ha | 03:03 |
| cloudnull | sometimes | 03:03 |
| cloudnull | just messing about sitting on the couch | 03:03 |
| cloudnull | how are you doing winggundamth_? | 03:04 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: great time. I'm going to leave my full time job by the end of this year and going to do full time on my own company Opsta starting next year :) | 03:05 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: and I already got my first client that I will use OSA for them! | 03:05 |
| cloudnull | that's awesome! | 03:06 |
| cloudnull | congradulations | 03:06 |
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| winggundamth_ | thanks :D | 03:06 |
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| cloudnull | opsta is the company ? | 03:07 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/opsta <- is this you? | 03:07 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: oh yes. that is my company name :) | 03:07 |
| cloudnull | good name | 03:07 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: yes. that github is mine. thanks | 03:08 |
| cloudnull | cool! | 03:08 |
| cloudnull | exciting times :) | 03:08 |
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| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: yes. I just hired my first employee. you can expected him to be active in here for sure. | 03:09 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 03:09 |
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| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: I'm sure that I'll help you more on contribute. especially testing a lot of stuffs. as I found few bugs right now lol | 03:10 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: btw can you help me on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1612412 | 03:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612412 in openstack-ansible "Xenial: neutron agents container unable to resolve names" [Low,Confirmed] | 03:11 |
| cloudnull | that's great, we always need more testing . | 03:11 |
| * cloudnull looking | 03:11 | |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: I know that bug is related to apparmors profile. but since I don't know anything about apparmors so I just need a guide to fix this. | 03:12 |
| cloudnull | winggundamth_: are you using overlayfs ? | 03:12 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: yes | 03:12 |
| cloudnull | I believe that was only an issue when overlayfs was being used. | 03:13 |
| cloudnull | it would seem there were some kinds of conflicts. | 03:13 |
| cloudnull | though I've not really had a tun of time to look into why | 03:13 |
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| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: I don't knwo but I can do workaround this his comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1612412/comments/14 | 03:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612412 in openstack-ansible "Xenial: neutron agents container unable to resolve names" [Low,Confirmed] | 03:13 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: so that's why I think it's related to apparmor | 03:13 |
| cloudnull | hum | 03:14 |
| cloudnull | ill have to dig into it and see what's causing that. | 03:14 |
| cloudnull | that said, do you "need" overlayfs ? | 03:14 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: this bug really block me when I'm investigating network problem. | 03:15 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: I don't think so. I think the only benefit of overlayfs is it's faster right? | 03:15 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: and I can see from Docker that there is overlayfs2 too | 03:16 |
| cloudnull | yes. its faster. but there are issues with potential data coruption under load w/ overlayfs | 03:16 |
| cloudnull | we were using it in test but have since reverted back to dir as the default | 03:16 |
| cloudnull | at Rackspace we use LVM backed containers | 03:17 |
| winggundamth_ | is this overlayfs is the same as it used it Docker? | 03:17 |
| cloudnull | yes. | 03:17 |
| winggundamth_ | I saw overlayfs2 but I'm not sure that is kernel feature or not. | 03:17 |
| cloudnull | I have no idea. | 03:17 |
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| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: so I will try to set back to dir and see how this going. | 03:18 |
| cloudnull | ++ That'd be my recommendation for now. | 03:18 |
| winggundamth_ | but is it means that we should patch to revert back to dir? | 03:18 |
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| cloudnull | that's the default. | 03:19 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: in the code I see that it depends on kernel version | 03:19 |
| winggundamth_ | so maybe I missed something | 03:19 |
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| cloudnull | lxc_container_backing_store | 03:19 |
| cloudnull | if that variable is not set https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create/blob/dc7b943bebd0b5921f71eb316fffe89b8fb3b349/tasks/container_create.yml#L16-L31 | 03:20 |
| cloudnull | will test to see if an lvm volume for lxc is available and if not fall back to dir | 03:21 |
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| winggundamth_ | what is the benefit of lvm over dir? | 03:21 |
| winggundamth_ | only faster? | 03:22 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: so I found it here in aio https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/tests/roles/bootstrap-host/templates/user_variables.aio.yml.j2#L86 | 03:23 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: do you think we should change this back to dir? | 03:25 |
| cloudnull | for the aio its not bad. its faster which is better for testing | 03:25 |
| cloudnull | lvm creates a logical volume for each container | 03:26 |
| winggundamth_ | so overlayfs2 is a Docker driver. and actually it named overlay2 but still use overlayfs kernel feature | 03:26 |
| cloudnull | which means each container has a filesystem barrier | 03:26 |
| winggundamth_ | so it's more secure? | 03:27 |
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| cloudnull | yes. there have been a few exploits that did not effect an OSA deployment if the container had an LVM backend | 03:28 |
| cloudnull | those were container escape exploits | 03:28 |
| winggundamth_ | ic. that's great to know before I putting for my customer | 03:28 |
| cloudnull | dir is more flexible | 03:29 |
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| cloudnull | lvm is more secure | 03:29 |
| cloudnull | overlayfs is faster | 03:29 |
| cloudnull | in the osic we're using all LVM backed containers. | 03:30 |
| winggundamth_ | but what happen if the lvm partition is full? | 03:30 |
| cloudnull | that can be a problem | 03:30 |
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| cloudnull | you have to watch container storage consumption. | 03:30 |
| cloudnull | the biggest issue can be logging | 03:31 |
| winggundamth_ | yes. when the error comes it fills fast | 03:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Logan V proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: WIP: ceph-ansible integration https://review.openstack.org/409407 | 03:31 |
| winggundamth_ | and will cause you another problem when it full | 03:31 |
| cloudnull | it can cause a service interuption for things running on that container | 03:32 |
| winggundamth_ | so logan works on weekend too lol | 03:32 |
| cloudnull | ha | 03:32 |
| cloudnull | https://cloudnull.io/2016/08/checking-for-a-full-ish-disks-with-ansible/ | 03:32 |
| cloudnull | that's one way to query the cluster and see if hosts are getting full . | 03:32 |
| cloudnull | hosts and containers that is | 03:32 |
| winggundamth_ | nice | 03:33 |
| cloudnull | also the telegraf bits are able to report if containers and hosts are getting full | 03:33 |
| cloudnull | and its possible to setup kapaciter to alert | 03:33 |
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| logan- | o/ winggundamth_ | 03:34 |
| logan- | i used to get bit by that overlayfs stuff with the neutron agents in my ci quite a bit. haven't seen it in quite a while | 03:34 |
| winggundamth_ | hi logan- | 03:34 |
| cloudnull | winggundamth_: rackspace private clouds monitors environments with the following https://github.com/rcbops/rpc-openstack/tree/master/maas/plugins | 03:35 |
| cloudnull | I'd like to port a lot of that into telegraf and influxdb | 03:35 |
| logan- | some of those plugins are pretty nice. i found them pretty reusable for my zabbix agents | 03:35 |
| cloudnull | ncie! | 03:36 |
| cloudnull | **nice | 03:36 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- is that means don't see ping problem on your neutron agent with overlayfs? | 03:36 |
| cloudnull | gotta run. bbl. | 03:37 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: maas? is that for Ubuntu maas plugin? | 03:37 |
| logan- | winggundamth_: my problem wasn't ping, but dnsmasq would occasionally fail to start. i think ive got a few comments in that bug | 03:37 |
| winggundamth_ | cloudnull: ok ttyl | 03:37 |
| winggundamth_ | logan-: I see. because when I'm trying to use traceroute or mtr. I found the same problem as ping too | 03:38 |
| logan- | :/ | 03:38 |
| logan- | on xenial? | 03:38 |
| cloudnull | winggundamth_: that's rackspace monitoring as a service https://www.rackspace.com/en-us/cloud/monitoring | 03:39 |
| winggundamth_ | logan-: but I still can do work around by remove apparmor profile :( | 03:39 |
| cloudnull | ok gotta run . ttyal | 03:39 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- yes. on xenial | 03:39 |
| logan- | is it something you see every single build? or what % of the time? and which branch is this on? | 03:41 |
| logan- | would be good if you could post that all to the bug, I'll try to repro it next time I have some builds going | 03:41 |
| winggundamth_ | 100% | 03:41 |
| logan- | ah I see you said stable/newton in the bug | 03:42 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- ok. I found this problem every time when I doing xenial osa aio newton on virtualbox | 03:42 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409407/ what is your plan/goal? I'm really interesting in this. I always use ceph-ansible with osa. just send pull request about improving their aio script last day :) | 03:44 |
| logan- | working on upstreaming the functionality i've got here https://github.com/logan2211/openstack-ansible-overlay/tree/ceph | 03:45 |
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| logan- | the first goal is to get the gate testing working for it and the long term will be to make it a supported deployment method in OSA | 03:48 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- nice. let me know if I can help with sth. now I'm doing ceph-ansible on deploy node before osa with separate ansible virtualenv and group_vars config. | 03:51 |
| winggundamth_ | it would be great if we can install both ceph and osa at the same env and config. | 03:52 |
| logan- | i do that currently | 03:53 |
| logan- | https://logan.protiumit.com/2016/08/02/openstack-ansible-ceph.html explains how | 03:53 |
| winggundamth_ | ic. that's your overlay technique :D | 03:54 |
| winggundamth_ | logan- so back to the overlayfs problem again. do you think should I separate another issue for ping, traceroute problem? | 03:58 |
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| logan- | unless you think it is unrelated to what prompted that bug report then it is probably best to keep it all in the same thread | 03:58 |
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| logan- | any updated info you can add will help though. id think we could get some eyes on it if its that easy to reproduce it | 04:03 |
| logan- | plenty of people testing newton builds right now | 04:03 |
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| logan- | do you work with radosgw much winggundamth_ | 04:09 |
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| winggundamth_ | logan- sorry. I don't use radosgw. I use swift :) | 04:22 |
| logan- | ah ok | 04:26 |
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| u__ | Hi all here | 08:59 |
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| u__ | I need your help | 08:59 |
| u__ | I tried to upgrade openstack ansible AIO from Mitaka to Newton | 08:59 |
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| u__ | but when it did os-cinder-install.yml | 09:01 |
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| u__ | I got error : server unavailable when it did the task "Add in cinder devices types" | 09:02 |
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| rsjethani | Hi all, I am relatively new to openstack deployment and i am confused between kolla and openstack-ansible | 12:43 |
| rsjethani | can anyone guide me | 12:46 |
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| stevelle | rsjethani: what are you confused about? | 13:24 |
| rsjethani | which one to use for deployment | 13:25 |
| rsjethani | differences? | 13:25 |
| rsjethani | do they both do the same thing? | 13:26 |
| stevelle | I'm not sure you're going to find individuals in either channel that are highly knowledgable about both at the same time so differences is likely going to be a surface comparison | 13:26 |
| stevelle | they both do the same thing: deploy openstack | 13:26 |
| rsjethani | ok stevelle | 13:27 |
| rsjethani | right now I am looking for simple lab environments where I should also be able to make changes easily, add remove services..and I should able to reboot my deployment without thinking too much. Can kolla give me what I want. Thank a lot | 13:27 |
| rsjethani | I am actually looking for some replacement of devstack because many a time I have to shutdown devstack vm then upon restart I have to run stack.sh agin which takes quite sometime | 13:27 |
| stevelle | I don't know if kolla reboots cleanly. | 13:29 |
| stevelle | or rather, how cleanly | 13:29 |
| rsjethani | ok | 13:29 |
| rsjethani | what about OSA? | 13:30 |
| rsjethani | for the same use case | 13:31 |
| stevelle | OSA uses a galera cluster for the RDBMS. If you shutdown or reboot the host(s) you will need to recover the cluster, even if it is a single node. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/newton/developer-docs/ops-galera-recovery.html | 13:32 |
| rsjethani | ok. is it possible to have a very simple deployment with just core services no cluster no high availability...etc.etc. | 13:35 |
| stevelle | you can choose which services you want to deploy, and we have a predefined "All-in-one" single-node deploy configuration you can customize as needed. | 13:37 |
| stevelle | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/developer-docs/quickstart-aio.html | 13:37 |
| stevelle | it still deploys messaging and database services configured as if it was a clustered deploy, the cluster is just 1 node though. | 13:38 |
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| mrda | Morning OSA | 20:40 |
| u__ | hello all | 20:55 |
| u__ | anyone can tell me why I got this error : ERROR: The server is currently unavailable in the task [os_cinder : Add in cinder devices types] please ? | 20:56 |
| u__ | I have all cinder services started | 20:57 |
| u__ | and running | 20:57 |
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| whiteveil | hey guys, im looking to clean up some files from the ubuntu sec role, 8gb instance on aws full within like 30 mins | 23:59 |
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