Tuesday, 2016-11-01

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openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory management data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39132307:41
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactor inventory management filesystem  https://review.openstack.org/39205607:41
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory generation data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39205707:41
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openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory generation data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39205707:48
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactor inventory management filesystem  https://review.openstack.org/39205607:48
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory management data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39132307:48
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory generation data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39205707:51
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openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Clean up warnings for BaseException.message  https://review.openstack.org/39134708:34
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Added lxd password to the secrets file  https://review.openstack.org/39207908:58
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evrardjphey everyone09:17
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bsvhey you :)09:19
odyssey4meo/09:29
* odyssey4me wonders off to get a toastie and coffee09:30
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evrardjpodyssey4me: could you replace me for today's bugtriage?09:40
odyssey4meevrardjp sure, I can do that - shall I just work through the open bug list or do you have an etherpad prepped?09:40
evrardjpI will prep the etherpad09:41
odyssey4methanks evrardjp09:50
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add supported Operating System check  https://review.openstack.org/39208910:00
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add supported Operating System check  https://review.openstack.org/39208910:06
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add supported Operating System check  https://review.openstack.org/39209110:07
odyssey4meevrardjp oh dear, I just realised that I won't be able to take your place for the triage as I need to collect my car during that time period10:08
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add supported Operating System check  https://review.openstack.org/39208910:12
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add supported Operating System check  https://review.openstack.org/39209110:12
evrardjpodyssey4me: you have a problem with your car?10:13
odyssey4meevrardjp nope - it's just in for a service today10:14
evrardjpok10:14
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evrardjpI'll ask cloudnull, jmccrory, mattt, or automagically if they can help on this one10:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: typo fix Appendix H -> C  https://review.openstack.org/39172610:16
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: typo fix Appendix H -> C  https://review.openstack.org/39209610:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: typo fix Appendix H -> C  https://review.openstack.org/39209610:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-pip_install: Fix same-host offline install race  https://review.openstack.org/39142710:30
admin0morning all \o10:33
evrardjppalendae: could you have a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/163601810:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1636018 in openstack-ansible "cinder ceph not working if documentation followed " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Praveen N (praveenn)10:38
evrardjpgood morning admin010:38
admin0hey.10:39
evrardjppalendae: thanks in advance! :D10:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_barbican: Use global openstack service protocols by default  https://review.openstack.org/39192610:44
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Add object-reconstructor for swift EC  https://review.openstack.org/39210410:45
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum: Remove 'ignore_errors: true' in favor of 'failed_when: false'  https://review.openstack.org/39210510:46
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: [TEST] Update to Ansible v2.2.0.0-1  https://review.openstack.org/38929210:48
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: [TEST] Update to Ansible v2.2.0.0-1  https://review.openstack.org/38929210:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer: Make ceilometer sample interval configurable  https://review.openstack.org/39179710:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Change protocol of novalink url.  https://review.openstack.org/39114810:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Swift proxy performance fixes  https://review.openstack.org/39180910:54
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openstackgerritChhavi Agarwal proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Disable SMT for ppc64 hypervisor and set VNC  https://review.openstack.org/39153211:22
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openstackgerritSamuel Matzek proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Swift proxy performance fixes  https://review.openstack.org/39211211:31
smatzekok, I promise this is the last cherry pick for that Swift proxy performance fix. I just need it back to Mitaka so I don't have to carry patches for it.11:33
evrardjp:D11:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: Updated envd configs for mixed virt and baremetal (ironic)  https://review.openstack.org/39103811:38
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openstackgerritSamuel Matzek proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Add object-reconstructor for swift EC  https://review.openstack.org/39210411:48
smatzekandymccr, others, above I'm proposing cherry picking the Swift EC support back to Newton.  Swift EC doesn't work without this fix.  What are your thoughts on backporting that fix to Mitaka.  It's a bit of a rewrite, not a cherry pick due to the service structure differences of the role.  If we don't do this Swift EC won't work in Mitaka.11:50
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openstackgerritDonovan Francesco proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca: Refactoring Monasca role to align more with OSA.  - This patch is to provide monasca backend services and monasca api,log-api  - Adding the use of dictionary for service group mappings.  - Switching to use tested external roles for backend services.  https://review.openstack.org/37565511:52
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odyssey4mesmatzek I already proposed a backport of the EC fix to Newton. I guess for Mitaka it should be OK - perhaps propose and let the decision be made in review?11:54
smatzekodyssey4me, sorry, I didn't see that, jetlag and not enough coffee this morning.  I have to do the Mitaka backport regardless and either carry as patches or get it in stream, so I'll do as you suggest and let the review discussion handle it. thanks.11:56
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odyssey4mesmatzek absolutely no problem - happy to see someone else doing proactive backports :)11:57
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matttodyssey4me: hey there, did you deliberately remove the upgrade testing from tox.ini here?  https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server/commit/3b75be345edf391d86f79e0673737b4d1b1daa1f13:01
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odyssey4memattt looking13:03
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odyssey4memattt that tox environment was never exercised13:04
matttodyssey4me: that's what i thought, i'm just a bit confused about the upgrade testing in this role as changes are going in thinking it is exercises13:04
mattt*exercised13:04
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odyssey4memattt yeah, I thought that it was exercised as part of the funtional test play13:05
matttodyssey4me: ok, i'll see if i can put the upgrade testing in test.yml itself13:05
odyssey4memattt yeah, it looks to me like test-upgrade can pretty much replace test.yml mostly13:06
mattt+113:06
matttbrb13:06
odyssey4meif we're not keen on that, the alternative is to create the tox env again with the alternative playbook but I kinda like the inline test13:07
evrardjpit seems a good idea to me for now, but should we think about having a scenario for upgrade different than a scenario for deploy? the upgrade should be longer right?13:07
oansonevrardjp, hi13:07
evrardjphello oanson13:07
oansonAre you available?13:07
evrardjpoanson: let me have a look at the latest patchset13:07
evrardjpyes I am13:08
evrardjpI mean, relatively :p13:08
odyssey4meevrardjp I think the run time for the test for rabbitmq is short enough to pipeline it so that should be fine for now - it's easy enough to change if need be13:08
oanson:P13:08
oansonI made a couple of changes per your review comments. Give me a second to upload it.13:08
evrardjpodyssey4me: yes, but IIRC it could be good to have each role implement standard deploy and standard upgrade?13:08
openstackgerritOmer Anson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: [WIP] Dragonflow  https://review.openstack.org/39152413:08
evrardjpthanks oanson13:09
openstackgerritKyle L. Henderson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Disable SMT for ppc64 hypervisor and set VNC  https://review.openstack.org/39153213:09
evrardjpmattt cloudnull jmccrory mhayden automagically could one of you handle the bug triage today? I'm not really available to hold it13:09
odyssey4meevrardjp perhaps - I'll leave that call to andymccr when he returns from his holiday... it probably is best to exercise both code paths independently13:09
mgariepygood morning everyone13:09
evrardjpodyssey4me: +1 on what you said13:10
openstackgerritOmer Anson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: [WIP] Dragonflow  https://review.openstack.org/39152413:10
evrardjpgood morning mgariepy13:10
evrardjptoday's bug triage list is generated here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-bugtriage (as usual)13:10
evrardjplbragstad: are you there?13:11
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odyssey4memhayden have you seen this? https://github.com/ansible/ansible-lockdown13:14
evrardjpoanson: so what does neutron_dragonflow_controller_agent represents to you?13:14
oansonThe dragonflow controller. This service connects to OVS and installs the relevant flows13:15
evrardjpok so it's an agent on the compute node, and at the same time a distributed controller13:16
oansonYes.13:16
oansonIt also does not run on the neutron server unless it is also a compute node13:16
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evrardjpoanson: ok13:17
evrardjpnext question then, the pip packages have to be installed on every single node, including the neutron server nodes, right?13:17
evrardjpwould /etc/dragonflow only be used for agents?13:18
oansonyes13:18
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oansonyes for the pip, that is13:18
oansonabout configuration, let me verify.13:19
evrardjpand for the /etc/dragonflow ?13:19
evrardjpok13:19
evrardjpDo you mind if I edit the patchset?13:19
oansonSure. Technically it's yours :)13:19
evrardjpWell we have to change that too13:20
oansonThe mechanism driver shares some of the agent's configuration. So /etc/dragonflow is also needed on both types of hosts.13:20
evrardjpok13:20
evrardjphow is this config generated?13:20
evrardjpin /etc/dragonflow ?13:20
oansonIt will either be supplied by the user with healthy defaults, or using oslo config generator.13:21
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: [WIP] Dragonflow  https://review.openstack.org/39152413:32
odyssey4meheh, interesting - Ansible 2.2's include_role module allows you to choose which file your defaults, tasks and vars come from: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/include_role_module.html13:33
lbragstadevrardjp o/13:35
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evrardjplbragstad: do you know how can we configure the dogpile.cache with multiple servers? Should be keystone_cache_backend_argument set to something like "url: [ 'host1:port1' , 'host2:port1' ]"13:54
lbragstadevrardjp checking something quick13:55
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evrardjpthanks lbragstad13:56
evrardjpodyssey4me: this module is highly experimental13:58
evrardjpI asked if that was ready, and someone answered "excepted bugs, it's usable"13:58
evrardjpso ansibley13:59
evrardjpit's cool that ansible 2.2 was released 'though14:00
evrardjplet's rewrite everything14:00
odyssey4meevrardjp yep, noticed that14:02
lbragstadevrardjp i'm looking through keystone's configuration now.14:04
lbragstadevrardjp if you supply a list of memcache servers in the same order for every keystone config - the cluster will automatically shard data across all the memcache servers provided.14:04
evrardjpI'm not sure it's written in the keystone doc quite now14:05
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openstackgerritDonovan Francesco proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca: Refactoring Monasca role to align more with OSA.  https://review.openstack.org/37565514:05
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evrardjpyes, but how do I supply the list of memcache servers :p14:05
evrardjplbragstad: agreed, the order is important14:05
lbragstadevrardjp it looks like we have two different configuration values for it - https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/9c2a48829d49eb1f59bada735c15280138470b96/keystone/conf/memcache.py#L18-L3014:05
lbragstadwhich is the keystone native one - but we also use one from oslo.cache... I'm asking stevemar about that now14:06
evrardjpok thanks14:06
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mhaydenodyssey4me: i have seen that14:10
drifterzahello folks14:10
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mhaydenodyssey4me: only downside there is that it doesn't do ubuntu, nor centos14:10
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server: [WIP] RabbitMQ Upgrade Testing  https://review.openstack.org/39189914:11
evrardjphello drifterza14:11
odyssey4memhayden sadly it looks like a duplication of effort14:11
drifterzahow are we today evrardjp ?14:11
mhaydenodyssey4me: quite true14:12
mhaydenbut it's rather forceful on a system, much more forceful than i'm comfortable with14:12
mhaydenand less configurable14:12
evrardjpmhayden: could you use this as base for the stig7 ?14:12
evrardjpor the stig 7 is already well advanced?14:13
mhaydenpossibly, but i'd need to give it a closer look14:13
mhaydeneven then, i'd still have to figure out Ubuntu + CentOS support14:13
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drifterzawho here is using Windows 10 and linux subsystem ?14:17
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drifterzano one ? wow.14:21
admin0win 10 via kvm ?14:23
admin0sorry14:23
admin0got it wrong14:23
admin0not me :D14:23
drifterzano windows 10 with bash14:23
drifterzanative14:23
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drifterzai heard it was out of technical preview14:24
* odyssey4me has a mac14:24
admin0i was asking myself “why would i ever” .. but after the new macs that they cannot have more than 16gb .. not sure what my new one will be14:24
admin0i want at least 32-64 in laptop now :)14:24
drifterzaodyssey4me, mac is to expensive here.14:26
drifterzasadly14:26
cloudnullmornings14:26
drifterzahi Kevin14:28
drifterza!14:28
cloudnulldrifterza: still working through that review14:28
drifterzaoh :) I uploaded a new PR just now.14:29
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drifterzaWorking on the systemd failure14:29
odyssey4mecloudnull now that https://review.openstack.org/391038 has merged I was wondering if you wanted to pull that set of patches back to newton?14:32
drifterzawhen using systemd do you have to source the virtual env ?14:32
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updated envd configs for mixed virt and baremetal (ironic)  https://review.openstack.org/39217814:33
drifterzathe activate thing14:33
cloudnullodyssey4me: for sure.14:33
odyssey4mecloudnull wasn't there a nova and ironic patch too?14:33
cloudnullno.14:33
cloudnulljust that one14:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server: Stop all but one RabbitMQ node prior to upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/39186314:38
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drifterzacloudnull, anything that stands out in that review ?14:54
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cloudnulldrifterza: nothing yet.14:58
cloudnullthere's things that we can tune up , but that can be iterative.14:58
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drifterzaYeah I decided just getting the api and the log api working is a start14:59
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drifterzait works on trusty but systemd loads the service but doesn't start it15:00
drifterzafor some bizarre reason15:00
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: [WIP] Execute tempest using updated method  https://review.openstack.org/37175315:09
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-specs: Add Ocata branch to specs repo  https://review.openstack.org/39219515:14
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dxirihello guys, need some help here, I added a logging host to my OS cloud, I see the rsyslog container created15:31
dxiribut there is nothing in /var/log/log-storage15:31
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admin0dxiri: reboot the container and it will pop-up15:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: Check for configured groups in the environment  https://review.openstack.org/38392015:34
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admin0dxiri: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1636017.  — i have a bug report open for it, but no one has checked on it so far15:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1636017 in openstack-ansible "no logging for nova* containers unless container is restarted" [Undecided,New]15:35
dxiriadmin0: lol, that worked15:35
admin0if you can also mark that you are also affected by it, it will help the devs to pick that up15:35
dxirisure, doing it now15:36
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dxiridone15:37
dxiriand this restart thing, do I have to keep doing it everytime I want to inspect new logs?15:37
dxiriof is it just this one time?15:37
dxiriadmin0: also I noticed a difference, I restarted the rsyslog container only, I didn't restart any nova containers15:39
dxirion the bug description you mention one needs to restart the nova containers15:39
dxiriand I see nova_api-metadata, nova_api-os-compute and nova_scheduler already there15:42
openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-specs: Spec: Octavia  https://review.openstack.org/39220515:42
evrardjpdxiri: if you're affected by the bug, don't hesitate to tell your experience in the bug15:43
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admin0the hangover from barcelona is gone… so might be able to add more bugs today :)15:44
admin0will try to add a 2nd osa to an existing ceph15:44
mgariepyadmin0, was it your first summit ?15:45
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admin0yep15:45
admin0running around with 1 minute gap between workshops was tiring15:46
admin0but it was great to meet a lot of people in this chatroom15:46
mgariepycool15:47
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mgariepywill you be in boston in 6month ?15:47
admin0not sure right now15:47
mgariepypl15:47
mgariepyok**15:47
admin0i have like 200+ hours of holidays that i still need to plan :)15:48
admin0carried over from last year ..15:48
admin0and now under pressure to spend/plan it all15:48
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest: Pin designate-tempest-plugin SHA  https://review.openstack.org/39220915:48
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spotzadmin0 I always joke about needing a clone at summit but it's true. The thing that saves you is the fact talks are videoed15:51
admin0yeah15:52
admin0so i skipped most of the presentations and went only to the workshops15:52
spotzadmin0: good call15:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server: [DOCS] Added release-name as a watermark to Docs.  https://review.openstack.org/38750915:52
admin0the ceph+ansible from rackspace did not went well though … we played openstack trivia :)15:52
spotzThat's the risk of the workshops if they can't be done in like vagrant15:53
admin0pjm6 and I attended in high hopes :D15:53
admin0at the end, i have already done it .. was hoping to learn something advance15:54
admin0which did not happen15:54
odyssey4meI have the impression that the hands-on labs are more tailored for beginner audiences in the subjetc matter.15:54
odyssey4me*subject15:55
spotzodyssey4me: admin0 - yeah they tend to be more entry level based, but I bet if someone said the session was advanced it could get voted in15:55
spotzlike propose a basics and an advanced for voting15:56
odyssey4mesure, but advanced topics are hard to do with a mixed and large audience15:56
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odyssey4meyou're better off attending the ops sessions to share experiences and learn from other operators15:56
spotzodyssey4me: Yeah we have an advanced section for the git and gerrit stuff but don't usually get to it15:57
spotzbut slides are available for ever for folks to read later15:57
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spotzWe doing the triage thing?16:01
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server: Stop all but one RabbitMQ node prior to upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/39187416:02
spotzmattt - you mind if I fix your commit message for that patch?:)16:03
palendaeWasn't there a review that removed the deterministic sort?16:04
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palendaecloudnull, I thought the deterministic sort mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1632831 was for upgrades, not anything to do with oslo16:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632831 in openstack-ansible "The rabbitmq deterministic sort is now pointless" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Carter (kevin-carter)16:06
cloudnullthe deterministic sort ran on every play call16:07
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cloudnulland due to changes in oslo which randomizes that list we no longer needed that plugin16:08
palendaeGotcha16:08
palendaeDifferent sort then16:08
matttspotz: which one is this?16:08
stevellenice, that finally made it into oslo16:08
dxirihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4H6NqmwCrA <<< watching that :)16:08
matttspotz: https://review.openstack.org/391874 is a cherry-pick, so probably best to not update it16:08
spotzmattt The one you just put up but to be honest it's a U vs US spelling thing:(16:09
dxiriprobably at least one of you are on this chat I assume?16:09
spotzUk vs US16:09
matttspotz: yeah, let's not do that, the original author is from the UK :)16:09
spotzhehehe16:09
palendaedxiri, Actually not. andymccr is on holiday and mrda is asleep :)16:09
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palendaeOh wait, different one16:10
palendaeThat's andymccr and cloudnull16:10
dxiricool16:11
dxirihopefully this will clear up my 98908789 questions :)16:12
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openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add command to remove IPs from inventory  https://review.openstack.org/39037516:15
openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_barbican: Use public endpoint as service reference URL  https://review.openstack.org/39222416:21
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openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Include barbican role in integrated release  https://review.openstack.org/39121916:22
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openstackgerritMichael Gugino proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Backport nova user ssh key distribution  https://review.openstack.org/39193616:28
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evrardjpI'm off for today16:32
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evrardjpthere is still no-one that can organize today's bug triage?16:32
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evrardjpthe etherpad is there: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-bugtriage have fun, see you tomorrow16:34
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openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactor inventory management filesystem  https://review.openstack.org/39205616:35
openstackgerritSteve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Refactoring inventory generation data manipulation  https://review.openstack.org/39205716:36
openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Implement zero downtime upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/38426916:40
odyssey4mestevelle palendae I've been thinking that in preparation for the ability to consume craton or some other inventory tooling that we should perhaps move all inventory writing to the inventory-manage tool and make the dynamic inventory read only. Thoughts?16:40
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palendaeodyssey4me, I'm not sure we gain anything that way. Ansible will still need a place to create that kind of thing if someone's not using Craton16:41
odyssey4meideally make the inventory source pluggable with read and write interfaces16:41
palendaeTrue, but we can do that without moving creation to a different entry point16:41
stevelleodyssey4me: that is exactly what my changes are moving toward16:41
stevellejust not putting it into manage16:42
palendaeMy goal was to slowly morph manage.py's internals16:42
odyssey4mestevelle ok, where will the writing be if the pluggable back-end doesn't support writing?16:42
palendaeEr, sorry, slowly morph generate.py's internals16:42
stevellemanage and generate can be morphed to use a store. the initial store is filesystem16:43
stevelleonce a store is in place, changes to manage/generate structure should be independent16:43
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odyssey4memy thinking was along the line that the write actions (container name/IP generation AFAIK) should be a conscious action - with the inventory-manage tool having the command options to do those things16:44
odyssey4meie generate names and IP's, or add them yourself if you like16:44
palendaeAt this point, neither inventory-manage.py nor dynamic_inventory.py do anything16:44
palendaeSo current deploy would be modified to running inventory-manage, then running ansible?16:45
stevellewith a store concept in place, the store can disallow changes however it likes, possibly based on back-end support16:45
odyssey4meI do like the idea of an inventory store concept.16:46
palendaeThat's the goal :)16:46
stevelleI may end up with the concept being labeled "source" instead of "store"16:46
odyssey4mepalendae yeah, slightly less convenient but more control16:46
stevelleas it represents a source of truth16:46
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stevelleor likely a proxy for a source of truth16:47
palendaeodyssey4me, True. Most Ansible dyanmic inventory sources act like that16:47
palendaei.e. AWS doesn't have auto creation, it's just a query16:47
odyssey4meI was thinking that some of the writing we do (container settings and such) is more of a cache than persistant data.16:47
palendaeYeah16:47
palendaeLike I mention in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390375/, clearing the IPs still needs to have the lxc container playbooks run16:48
palendaeRunning the clear without running the playbooks will result in a broken install16:48
odyssey4methe potential situation down the line would be to be able to use something like etcd as the cache, the files simply being a bootstrapping mechanism16:48
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palendaeYeah16:49
palendaeThat's something I wanted to advance with Craton - that something like our current env.d/conf.d would bootstrap it16:49
* stevelle likes16:49
odyssey4meyeah, I'm not entirely sure whether all that stuff should go into craton or any other inventory mechanism16:50
palendaeHow similar it looks is up to debate16:50
palendaeMe neither16:50
palendaeBut craton does need to know about the structure in some sense16:50
odyssey4mesure - part of the inventory should, but we have a lot of stuff which is our internals which doesn't need ot be in there16:50
palendaeI'm torn between creating a ton more libs/tools vs blaoting existing ones16:50
odyssey4meall we need from the inventory source is a set of hosts and their groups - and the groups only need to be the host groups, not container groups16:51
palendaeodyssey4me, What kind of internals are you thinking?16:51
palendaeI think the craton vision is different16:51
palendaeBut I agree with you16:51
odyssey4mewell, we have a host of groups for keystone, for instance - keystone, keystone_all, keystone_containers, identity_hosts16:51
odyssey4meonly one of those needs to actually be in the inventory source16:52
palendaeGothca16:52
palendaeI think Craton people want to track all of it16:52
palendaeBut that doesn't make a ton of sense as we get closer to containers being disposable16:53
odyssey4mewell, that's an option of course - but it's a lot of bloat for no gain - and it'll require our dynamic inventory internals to be replicated into craton16:53
palendaeRight16:53
odyssey4meideally the inventory source should minimally provide host groups with hosts in them - then optionally provide overrides to our default env.d settings16:54
odyssey4meie the inventory source provides the conf.d bits only16:54
palendaeYeah, the vars16:54
odyssey4mebut can be used to override is_metal as an example16:54
odyssey4me(unless we can find a better way to do that)16:55
palendaeYeah =\16:55
odyssey4meputting everything in craton regresses our control over adding new groups - in mitaka/liberty that required user space config changes... I'd rather not go back there16:55
palendaeYeah16:56
palendaeI agree with that16:56
palendaeI'd personally like to treat it as a dumb store16:56
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odyssey4meI'd also like to treat the host groups as a sort of API for the inventory, while having the freedom to muck with all the other groups we create to facilitate the container bits16:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests: Only force apt backports for Trusty  https://review.openstack.org/38704116:58
odyssey4mepalendae as a point of interest, see slides 11-14 http://www.slideshare.net/bcoca/more-tips-n-tricks16:58
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests: Only force apt backports for Trusty  https://review.openstack.org/39223816:58
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palendaeAh16:59
palendaeSo they're skipping over the dynamic inventory entirely16:59
odyssey4meI started thinking that it might be possible to actually reverse engineer config from an existing inventory.17:00
palendaeInstead of the json, dumping an INI17:00
palendaeodyssey4me, Should be, for the most part.17:00
palendaeMetadata like the subnets17:00
palendaeused_ips is dumped into its own file17:01
odyssey4mebut that's just for record-keeping, right?17:02
odyssey4mebasically when a new IP must be generated it uses that as a lookup of sorts17:02
palendaeYeah17:02
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palendaeI'm thinking like https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L20-L71 isn't written explicitly17:03
stevelleseems like a good idea to bring up the question of why.  Why not calculate once instead of all the time?17:04
palendaestevelle, Calculate....?17:04
palendaeThe IPs?17:04
stevellethe config, yes17:04
odyssey4mestevelle yeah, exactly - it seems like a once-off thing to do for the control plane... or at least a limited set of inventory changes17:04
palendaeNot sure I understand17:04
palendaeWhat's recalculated now, provided there's nothing changed?17:05
stevelleI don't want us to muddle the ideas of cache vs store, but in practice most of what goes into our dynamic inventory isn't very dynamic17:05
palendaeTrue17:06
palendaeAnsible's definition of "dynamic" is "not an ini file"17:06
palendaeBut really, the dynamic part is making new IPs and the container names17:06
stevelleit's also how we assign groups, but we covered that a bit17:07
odyssey4mewell, yes and also the convenience in the env.d files for setting up a group hierarchy17:07
stevelle^17:07
agrebennikovhey odyssey4me can you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391303/ and remove -2 please?17:07
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palendaeYeah, though that's not really dynamic; it's just coalescing some yaml17:07
palendaeAnd the `lxc_hosts` group17:08
odyssey4meagrebennikov not until we release the next tag which should be later this week17:08
palendaeMmm, I guess it is dynamic17:08
agrebennikovem tag for what?17:08
palendaeMost of what happens in the inventory file after the JSON is loaded is mostly checking for any updates17:08
agrebennikovodyssey4me, it is for mitaka...17:09
palendaeAnd overrides17:09
odyssey4meagrebennikov we'll be issuing a mitaka stable tag later this week, once that's done I'll release that patch and bump other SHA's too for a full two weeks of testing17:09
agrebennikovI see, ok. tnx17:09
openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Remove old secrets from user_secrets  https://review.openstack.org/39224117:10
odyssey4mesorry agrebennikov - with the summit week there aren't too many people actively testing things and doing that change warrants as many eyes as possible17:10
agrebennikovyeah, sure, I definitely understand that17:11
stevelleso palendae odyssey4me, the source concept still going the direction we want?17:11
stevellewe can possibly partition that into the dynamic vs mostly-static parts instead17:11
stevelleor other ideas17:12
palendaestevelle, I think that's not a bad idea. I still haven't sat down to make the "schema" for what's necessary17:12
palendaeThat may or may not inform this, I'm not sure17:12
odyssey4mestevelle I think it's a good direction. I do think that a further break down would need to be for a pluggable source for IP's and container names... unless we get to a point where that stuff's no longer needed17:13
palendaeYeah17:14
palendaeWe'd need to be able to specify those plugins as one of the low level tasks17:14
odyssey4meI just thought I'd socialise some of the thoughts that coalesced during the summit week.17:14
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palendaeAppreciated17:14
stevelleIP and container names are not moving around in this refactor, so that can easily be shaped still17:14
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stevellean == palendae17:15
stevellethanks17:15
odyssey4mepalendae it may even make sense to move the name/IP things for containers into a module17:15
odyssey4meor a lookup17:15
palendaeodyssey4me, We can probably distance them, yes17:16
odyssey4mefor a lookup the workflow would be something like - execute container-create play, if there's no container name/IP then look one up in your favourite back-end17:16
odyssey4mebah, gotta run - chat again tomorrow17:17
palendaeI don't think ansible could create that way17:18
palendaeUnless they were implemented as ansible modules, which I think is a poor choice17:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: Updated envd configs for mixed virt and baremetal (ironic)  https://review.openstack.org/39217817:35
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-specs: Spec: Octavia  https://review.openstack.org/39220517:44
openstackgerritJimmy McCrory proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Remove old secrets from user_secrets  https://review.openstack.org/39224117:48
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openstackgerritDonovan Francesco proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_monasca: Refactoring Monasca role to align more with OSA.  https://review.openstack.org/37565518:03
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: Add RHEL-07-010430 and RHEL-07-010431  https://review.openstack.org/39193018:06
openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: Add RHEL-07-010430 and RHEL-07-010431  https://review.openstack.org/39193018:07
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: Remove packages according to STIG  https://review.openstack.org/39197218:10
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drifterzacloudnull,18:29
drifterzayou there ?18:29
cloudnulli am18:30
drifterzaSo my latest PR is Verified +118:31
drifterzahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/375655/https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375655/18:31
drifterzahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/375655/18:31
drifterzaI mean18:31
* cloudnull refreshing.18:32
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drifterzaI think perhaps the functional test should be better18:33
drifterzaI mean long term I'll use tempest18:34
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: [WIP] GPG verification for packages  https://review.openstack.org/39226918:51
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests: [WIP] Bump ansible version  https://review.openstack.org/39227018:52
openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Sketch: Move IP logic into separate module  https://review.openstack.org/39227718:57
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openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Fix BaseException.message deprecation messages  https://review.openstack.org/39227919:03
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stevellepalendae: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391347/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392279/ .. happy to abandon mine19:07
palendaeOh, missed yours19:07
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stevelleI don't love my solution19:07
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stevellesuppose I could str(ex) instead of args[0]19:08
palendaeI wouldn't mind dropping the custom __str__ methods19:08
palendaestr was the supported method I saw from the PEP19:08
palendaehttps://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0352/19:08
stevelleyeah, having a base class with __repr__ and __str__ helps some, but you still run into issues w/ the raise SystemExit19:11
palendaeWe use that a bit much19:12
stevelleanyway, my feeling is that I abandon mine and you can decide if you want to take something from it to fold into yours.19:13
palendaeOk19:13
palendaeWhat issues did you see with SystemExit?19:13
openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add test for Horizon group membership  https://review.openstack.org/37114019:14
stevellejust that you won't be overriding the impl of those methods there to support a message property19:14
palendaeAh19:15
openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: [WIP] GPG verification for packages  https://review.openstack.org/39226919:15
palendaeDunno if it's good practice to override systemexit, but maybe we should make our own generic one19:15
stevellejust str(systemExit) -- that works19:15
palendaeYeah, it does19:16
palendaeHence how I completely missed that when testing :p19:16
palendaeThough the custom __str__s may have to stay in mine19:16
sigmavirusSystemExit is rather useful ime19:16
palendaeNot a fane of them19:16
palendaesigmavirus, Yeah, I just don't like that we raise it all over the place19:17
stevelleI looked at making a mixin type with a message property but then discovered the many uses of system exit, so backed off the mixin19:17
sigmavirusYeah custom __str__'s are tricky, especially with py2/py3 compat19:17
stevelleand I like our use of system exit tbh19:17
palendaestevelle, Oh? I feel like it should die because of moving ot a lib19:17
palendaeBut haven't undertaken removing it19:17
stevellefair to consider refactoring to catch other exceptions and replace with a system exit19:18
stevellebut the manage script should systemexit for sure19:18
palendaeYes19:18
palendaeLet me clarify - stuff in lib/ with SystemExit19:18
palendaePlaying with Rust has me wanting more data encoded in types, but not sure I wanna fight for that too hard :)19:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: Added lxd password to the secrets file  https://review.openstack.org/39207919:19
openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Fix BaseException.message deprecation messages  https://review.openstack.org/39227919:20
stevelle:)19:21
stevelleonce we have some structure I think it will be easier to pick the right types, if things go that way19:22
palendaeYeah19:22
palendaeAnd group them into modules19:22
stevelleif we pump out more experiments and ideas we can see what works best19:22
palendaee.g. I didn't move any IP stuff with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392277/19:22
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palendaeIP exceptions, I should say19:23
palendaeAlso unsure about instantiating classes for stuff as the pluggable solution, but that doesn't have to be debated or solved right away19:24
stevelleagreed19:24
palendaeHm, did the plugin reviews from neillc get abandoned/closed?19:25
palendaeBleh, they did19:25
palendaehttps://review.openstack.org/28758619:25
palendaehttps://review.openstack.org/26923619:25
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drifterzaautomagically, you there dude?19:30
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stevellepalendae: noting them down. gonna have to put together a doc to collect notes19:38
palendaestevelle, Yeah, it's from way early this year19:38
palendaeBut one possible envisioning19:38
palendaeGranted, it would have been a bunch of work to get those updated now19:39
stevelleI'm not afraid of the labor cost19:41
stevelleI want to go through and really understand the vision though19:42
palendaeYeah19:42
palendaeGonna be a lot of work no matter what19:42
stevelleI'm doing nearly all this labor in the evenings or when I should be asleep anyway so labor cost isn't the hangup19:42
stevelledeadlines are, but that's another concern19:42
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: GPG verification for packages  https://review.openstack.org/39226920:11
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Stop all but one RabbitMQ node prior to upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/39229520:13
openstackgerritLogan V proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts: Implement LXC cache timeout  https://review.openstack.org/39145920:14
neillcstevelle: I'm willing to revisit those reviews if it will help.  There didn't seem to be much interest though.20:15
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stevelleneillc: I'll take a look at them tonight and let you know where things stand?  You were probably just ahead of your time, before. Fitting since you live in the tomorrowland.20:16
neillcheh20:17
mhaydenlogan-: thanks for reading the spec! :)20:17
dxirifor some reason...my br-mgmt bridge doesn't not want to ifup/ifdown20:19
dxirihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23413131/20:19
dxirido you guys see any misconfiguration there?20:19
dxirithe other bridges work fine20:19
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logan-mhayden: no prob! looking forward to that role.20:20
openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: Remove packages according to STIG  https://review.openstack.org/39197220:20
openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-security: GPG verification for packages  https://review.openstack.org/39226920:21
mhaydenlogan-: woot!20:21
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Stop all but one RabbitMQ node prior to upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/39139820:24
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openstackgerritNolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add command to create consolidated AIO config  https://review.openstack.org/39230020:35
palendaestevelle, ^ is a POC for a 'gen-config' command, not fully wired up yet though20:35
stevellemarked20:37
openstackgerritFrédéric Guillot proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_almanach: Make config files compatible with Almanach 3.3.x  https://review.openstack.org/39230320:40
openstackgerritLogan V proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-pip_install: Fix linting issues for ansible-lint 3.4.1  https://review.openstack.org/39230420:42
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Stop all but one RabbitMQ node prior to upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/39139820:43
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dxiriwhat's the deal with this? fatal: [infra1_nova_console_container-aa9ccff1]: FAILED! => {"failed": true, "msg": "No file was found when using with_first_found. Use the 'skip: true' option to allow this task to be skipped if no files are found"}20:53
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admin0dxiri: looks familiar .. faced it before .. just cannot figure out where it came from21:01
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dxiriadmin0: I am trying to recreate my nova console container21:02
dxiriopenstack-ansible lxc-containers-destroy.yml lxc-containers-create.yml --limit nova_console21:02
dxirithat's what I did21:02
dxiriI destroyed it ok, but its having trouble creating it21:02
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jmccrorydxiri : you might be missing cached facts. try running this first: ansible compute-infra_hosts -m setup21:08
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dxirijmccrory: that spit a bunch of stuff out, then I tried again...and that did it :)21:10
jmccrorycool21:10
dxirithank you!21:10
openstackgerritLogan V proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_client: Fix linting issues for ansible-lint 3.4.1  https://review.openstack.org/39230821:10
jmccroryno prob21:11
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openstackgerritLogan V proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-galera_server: Fix linting issues for ansible-lint 3.4.1  https://review.openstack.org/39231121:18
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openstackgerritMajor Hayden proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: [WIP] Testing Xenial speedups  https://review.openstack.org/39231621:38
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openstackgerritNish Patwa(nishpatwa_) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server: Added ACL module in service.conf.j2  https://review.openstack.org/39232822:40
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dxiriguys, is there a way to reconfigure haproxy? is it just running openstack-ansible haproxy-install.yml?23:15
stevelledxiri: that's about all there is to it.23:16
dxiricool23:17
dxiriand how can I target all containers only? is there a way?23:20
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