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| thetrav | cloudnull: thanks for your help, the guy fixed the routing for me today and I can indeed confirm that dropping nohup has solved my issue | 03:12 |
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| thetrav | it looks like you already updated the launchpad bug? | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Remove the AIO metadata checksum fix from run-playbooks https://review.openstack.org/330389 | 06:33 |
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| odyssey4me | winggundamth o/ yeah, back in the rain after being in the sun for a week... it's mercifully cool here :) | 09:42 |
| winggundamth | odyssey4me: sound cool | 09:44 |
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| winggundamth | odyssey4me: do you have time to review this for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330961/ | 09:48 |
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| odyssey4me | winggundamth it's in my very large queue :/ | 10:46 |
| odyssey4me | will look when I can | 10:46 |
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| winggundamth | odyssey4me: sure. no worries :) | 10:47 |
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| mgariepy | good morning everyone | 11:40 |
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| mgariepy | I get some error in neutron : http://paste.openstack.org/show/524250/ | 11:42 |
| mgariepy | this is after the upgrade to mitaka : http://paste.openstack.org/show/524252/ i have both liberty and mitaka process running. | 11:44 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull There's a variety of feedback in https://review.openstack.org/312274 which needs some addressing. mhayden You may wish to remove your vote to expose the downvotes from others. | 11:52 |
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| cloudnull | mgariepy: thats an odd one. | 12:52 |
| cloudnull | morning btw | 12:52 |
| cloudnull | mgariepy: It looks like the general filters are up-to-date. | 12:56 |
| cloudnull | is that error causing neutron to crash ? | 12:56 |
| cloudnull | is it an error you're seeing a lot of? | 12:56 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: ohai. | 12:56 |
| cloudnull | you back from Holiday ? | 12:57 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull Buenas tardes | 12:57 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I'm back | 12:57 |
| cloudnull | welcome, and sorry | 12:57 |
| odyssey4me | busy working my way through the fire hose :p | 12:57 |
| cloudnull | that'll teach you to go on holidy | 12:58 |
| cloudnull | :P | 12:58 |
| odyssey4me | hahaha | 12:58 |
| ioni | hello, what's the sintax for overwriting interval for cpu for /etc/ceilometer/pipeline.yaml ? | 12:58 |
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| ioni | https://paste.xinu.at/3Sfw9O/ | 12:59 |
| cloudnull | ioni: from the sources list ? | 13:00 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer/blob/master/templates/pipeline.yaml.j2#L2 | 13:00 |
| odyssey4me | ioni http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/mitaka/install-guide/configure-openstack.html | 13:00 |
| ioni | i've added the entire section of sources there because if i only leave the interval, the final file, is missing almost everything apart of sinks and whatever i have added in overwrites | 13:00 |
| cloudnull | yes. | 13:00 |
| cloudnull | sadly its a list | 13:00 |
| ioni | ok, so my configuration is fine this way no? | 13:01 |
| ioni | https://paste.xinu.at/3Sfw9O/ | 13:01 |
| cloudnull | yes. | 13:01 |
| ioni | cool | 13:01 |
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| ioni | i was thinking i do something wrong :D | 13:01 |
| ioni | thank you | 13:01 |
| cloudnull | recursing into a list to find a hash with more lists to container more hashes, etc... would be slow and hard to validate especially for a single key change. | 13:02 |
| ioni | i understand | 13:02 |
| mgariepy | cloudnull, might be an issue with the L > M upgrade | 13:03 |
| mgariepy | it doesn't make neutron crash. | 13:03 |
| cloudnull | is it something you see a lot of in the logs? | 13:04 |
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| mgariepy | if the process isn't killed, yes | 13:05 |
| mgariepy | it tries to kill it and fail.. | 13:05 |
| automagically | morning all | 13:06 |
| cloudnull | mornings | 13:07 |
| evrardjp | weird I didn't remember seeing that in my L-> M upgrade | 13:08 |
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| mgariepy | i started from a (fuel)icehouse DB (ovs + gre) > (osad)kilo (linux bridge + vxlan) | 13:09 |
| mgariepy | I'll keep an eye to see if it does happen again after the reboot. | 13:09 |
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| evrardjp | I may I missed that too if neutron behaved correctly | 13:10 |
| Andrew_jedi | Hello folks | 13:11 |
| mgariepy | yeah | 13:11 |
| evrardjp | hey Andrew_jedi | 13:12 |
| mgariepy | i guess so, I wouldn't probably seen it if I had not had issue with my network haha | 13:12 |
| Andrew_jedi | Can i create 3 new containers and install rabbitmq there? I want to completely destroy the old containers. | 13:12 |
| cloudnull | hey Andrew_jedi how goes the network partitioning/hardware saga? | 13:12 |
| Andrew_jedi | evrardjp: Hello :) | 13:12 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: yes | 13:12 |
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| cloudnull | however you're going to need to rerun the OS roles due to vhost and user creates . | 13:13 |
| cloudnull | you can do that with a tag though | 13:13 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: hello, removed bonding, changed some hardware, but still no cigars | 13:13 |
| mgariepy | the kill error was only for the liberty process.. | 13:13 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Ok, and is it possible to create two rabbit containers on one node? | 13:14 |
| cloudnull | yup | 13:15 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: like i want to recreate the controller1 container on container3 | 13:15 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Like this, openstack-ansible setup-hosts.yml --limit controller1 \ | 13:15 |
| Andrew_jedi | --limit controller1_rabbit_mq_container-2d645e7f | 13:15 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: on shared infra under your host where you want >1 you'd add the following | 13:15 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L76-L78 | 13:16 |
| cloudnull | aio1 == hostname, rabbit_mq_container: 2 | 13:16 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Okay, done | 13:17 |
| cloudnull | alextricity25: you around ? | 13:18 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: And then simply run the rabbit play ? | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | alextricity25: this was the rsync error you were talking about w/ master the other day, right? http://cdn.pasteraw.com/cas8ql17ju5spds2jepcslbxt2ppjdj | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: yup | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | well. no. sorry | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | you have to run the lxc-container-create play too | 13:18 |
| cloudnull | openstack-ansible lxc-container-create.yml --limit rabbitmq_all | 13:19 |
| cloudnull | then run the rabbitmq play | 13:19 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: ahhh, thx :) | 13:19 |
| alextricity25 | cloudnull: yup | 13:20 |
| alextricity25 | cloudnull: How were you able to reproduce it this time around? | 13:21 |
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| cloudnull | I deployed swift. | 13:23 |
| cloudnull | the last go i hadn't | 13:24 |
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| cloudnull | but thought i had | 13:24 |
| alextricity25 | cloudnull: oh XD | 13:24 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Any idea how tricky is to do the same thing with galera? | 13:24 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L77 | 13:24 |
| cloudnull | just add that line | 13:24 |
| cloudnull | openstack-ansible lxc-container-create.yml --limit galera_all | 13:24 |
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| cloudnull | then run the galera-install.yml play | 13:25 |
| Andrew_jedi | Awesome | 13:25 |
| Andrew_jedi | My galera cluster is down, if i run galera install.yml play, is there any chance that i may loose my db? | 13:26 |
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| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: nope. | 13:29 |
| cloudnull | and the play itself will attempt to bring the cluster back up | 13:30 |
| Andrew_jedi | Awesome! | 13:30 |
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| Andrew_jedi | And if i remove controller1 from infra nodes in openstack_user_config.yml then the containers on controller1 will be ignored. | 13:31 |
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| cloudnull | no they're part of inventory . | 13:32 |
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| cloudnull | alextricity25: do you have the ansible bug handy? | 13:33 |
| cloudnull | for the rsync things? | 13:33 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Okay, any idea how can i remove an infra node completely from the openstack setup? | 13:34 |
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| cloudnull | yes. ./scripts/inventory-manage.py --file /etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_inventory.json --remove $HOSTNAME_OR_CONTAINERNAME | 13:35 |
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| Andrew_jedi | The thing is that rabbit and galera still thinks that there is a network partition which is making them to fail miserably. | 13:36 |
| Andrew_jedi | Ahhhh, you are a life saver, | 13:36 |
| Andrew_jedi | thanks! | 13:36 |
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| mrhillsman | g'morning | 13:36 |
| TheIntern | morning | 13:36 |
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| cloudnull | mornings | 13:36 |
| cloudnull | TheIntern: in da' House! | 13:37 |
| TheIntern | yea he his | 13:37 |
| TheIntern | but he still can't type | 13:37 |
| TheIntern | ... | 13:37 |
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| asettle | o/ | 13:37 |
| TheIntern | \o | 13:38 |
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| TheIntern | hey now, let's keep it clean. There are children present. | 13:39 |
| messy | asettle: that kind of looks like an angry bird also | 13:39 |
| asettle | I was going for a high 5 guys, jeeeez | 13:39 |
| TheIntern | ol | 13:40 |
| asettle | Okay, I can only see the angry bird. How is that dirty!? | 13:40 |
| TheIntern | idk | 13:40 |
| asettle | Oh. Lies! | 13:40 |
| TheIntern | Triangles are just dirty shapes | 13:40 |
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| alextricity25 | cloudnull: Yeah. | 13:47 |
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| alextricity25 | cloudnull: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/15405 | 13:47 |
| alextricity25 | cloudnull: Also https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/13825 | 13:48 |
| alextricity25 | but the latter one is marked as closed | 13:49 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: After removing a container from inventory, http://paste.openstack.org/show/524270/ | 13:49 |
| Andrew_jedi | ./scripts/inventory-manage.py --file /etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_inventory.json --remove-item controller1_rabbit_mq_container-2d645e7f | 13:50 |
| Andrew_jedi | openstack-ansible rabbitmq-install.yml | 13:50 |
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| Andrew_jedi | Also gets this, | 13:51 |
| Andrew_jedi | GATHERING FACTS *************************************************************** | 13:51 |
| Andrew_jedi | fatal: [controller1_rabbit_mq_container-d14f8be7] => SSH Error: data could not be sent to the remote host. Make sure this host can be reached over ssh | 13:51 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323504/ need a backport or is it only applicable to newton? | 13:51 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: IMO yes. | 13:52 |
| cloudnull | backport to stable/mitaka | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerry Cai proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Filter libvirt in nova.conf. Add nova_powervm module in nova.virt https://review.openstack.org/332697 | 13:53 |
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| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: did you remove all of the controller1 containers and hosts and then pull that host out of your openstack_user_cnfig.yml ? | 13:53 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Only removed one container. | 13:54 |
| Andrew_jedi | ./scripts/inventory-manage.py --file /etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_inventory.json --remove-item controller1_rabbit_mq_container-2d645e7f | 13:54 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull ugh, it's a rather nasty refactor :/ | 13:54 |
| cloudnull | yea it'll need to be manually picked. | 13:54 |
| cloudnull | I can do that if you like | 13:54 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: if you just dont want rabbit on that host you can set an affinity of 0 | 13:55 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull I'd rather avoid pulling it back unless it's really necessary | 13:55 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull or perhaps pull just the necessary part back to make the upgrade process succeed... leave out the new feature bits | 13:55 |
| cloudnull | I dont believe its "really" necessary. | 13:56 |
| cloudnull | I think we have the needed things in place for an upgrade | 13:56 |
| odyssey4me | in that case, we leave it alone | 13:56 |
| cloudnull | ok | 13:56 |
| odyssey4me | no backports to the stable branch unless they're necessary - from the looks of things we have enough people with implementations now to need to very carefully respect that | 13:57 |
| cloudnull | that change change provides the correct hostnames everywhere and aliases for legacy support. | 13:57 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I think we already have aliases in mitaka - that will have to do | 13:57 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 13:58 |
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| odyssey4me | unless there's demand from cores across multiple stakeholders to bring that in - d34dh0r53 / evrardjp / git-harry / automagically / jmccrory ? | 13:58 |
| automagically | I don’t have a screaming need for a backport of that to mitaka | 14:00 |
| automagically | Maybe add to the agenda for later today tho? | 14:00 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Changed the affinity to 0 and it failed again with the same message. :( http://paste.openstack.org/show/524270/ | 14:00 |
| odyssey4me | FYI for those I pinged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323504/ | 14:00 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: you running with a retry or limit? | 14:01 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Nope | 14:01 |
| Andrew_jedi | openstack-ansible rabbitmq-install.yml | 14:01 |
| Andrew_jedi | deleted ansible facts as well | 14:02 |
| cloudnull | if you list out your inventory do you see a rabbitmq container on controller1 ? | 14:03 |
| cloudnull | or the one you've deleted? | 14:03 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Yes, it is there. | 14:06 |
| Andrew_jedi | wait | 14:06 |
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| Andrew_jedi | The container name is different | 14:06 |
| Andrew_jedi | but yes there is a container on controller1 | 14:07 |
| cloudnull | you'll need to remove it | 14:07 |
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| cloudnull | set the affinity to 0 | 14:08 |
| cloudnull | then rerun | 14:08 |
| Andrew_jedi | affinity is set, removing conatiner ... | 14:08 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Rabbit fixed, now trying the same trick for galera | 14:22 |
| odyssey4me | palendae jwagner- d34dh0r53 do you guys have a link to something which describes how to do an upgrade test including checking uptime and other markers to observe? I think it'd be great if we could collaborate on a test method that perhaps can be better gated | 14:23 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Since my galera cluster is broken, should i use this "openstack-ansible -e galera_ignore_cluster_state=true galera-install.yml" ?http://paste.openstack.org/show/524273/ | 14:24 |
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| mkrish | @mhayden, | 14:32 |
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| mkrish | in your IPv6 openstack configuration, what was the DHCP server you used, SLAAC or DHCPv6 ? | 14:33 |
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| cloudnull | -cc mrhillsman -- RE: <odyssey4me> ... do you guys have a link to something which describes how to do an upgrade test including checking uptime and other markers to observe? I think it'd be great if we could collaborate on a test method that perhaps can be better gated | 14:56 |
| cloudnull | Andrew_jedi: sorry was in meetings. | 14:57 |
| cloudnull | yes that flag will likely be needed | 14:57 |
| mrhillsman | cloudnull i would say no but we can definitely collaborate on figuring that out | 14:58 |
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| cloudnull | if you could that'd be great. | 14:59 |
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| mrhillsman | the only "test" we ran was to ensure resources that were created pre upgrade were still around post upgrade | 14:59 |
| mrhillsman | and functioning | 14:59 |
| cloudnull | I know you all are working on similar things and if we can bridge some of that work we may be able to reduce work duplication . | 15:00 |
| mrhillsman | i am spending the day pretty much going back through the upgrade and testing each service individually and observing logs | 15:00 |
| mrhillsman | for sure | 15:00 |
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| cloudnull | mgariepy: was talking about mitaka upgrades just this morning regarding potentially broken filters. | 15:01 |
| cloudnull | [07:50] <mgariepy> [11:45:39] I get some error in neutron : http://paste.openstack.org/show/524250/ | 15:03 |
| cloudnull | [07:50] <mgariepy> [11:47:09] this is after the upgrade to mitaka : http://paste.openstack.org/show/524252/ i have both liberty and mitaka process running. | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates Neutron-FWaaS/Swift SHAs for 11.2.17 (kilo-eol SHA's) https://review.openstack.org/336075 | 15:04 |
| cloudnull | note the 12.0.14 and 13.1.3 both running. seems like a service restart didnt happen, or we missed it | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Finalise Neutron-FWaaS/Swift SHAs for 11.2.17 (kilo-eol) https://review.openstack.org/336075 | 15:05 |
| cloudnull | mrhillsman: but if you can confirm in your tests we should be able to get something fixed sooner rather than later. | 15:05 |
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| mrhillsman | sure thing | 15:06 |
| odyssey4me | mrhillsman please make notes of all the things that you do to verify the upgrade - ideally I'd like us to document it and formalise it into the repo as the upgrade test process, probably for the Mitaka->Newton upgrade spec | 15:06 |
| odyssey4me | mrhillsman we may want to rather have it in our upgrade docs, but reference it in the spec | 15:07 |
| mrhillsman | odyssey4me do you already have an etherpad | 15:07 |
| odyssey4me | mrhillsman but for now, just putting together an etherpad would be a good start | 15:07 |
| mrhillsman | sec | 15:07 |
| mrhillsman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-liberty-mitaka-upgrade | 15:07 |
| mrhillsman | add your thoughts there please | 15:08 |
| mrhillsman | if you know of anything we may want to test but may not think of - cause we do not know all the things - please add | 15:08 |
| cloudnull | mgariepy: you still around ? | 15:08 |
| mgariepy | yep | 15:08 |
| mrhillsman | mgariepy cloudnull | 15:08 |
| cloudnull | do you still have that node up with the 12.0.14 and 13.1.3 services running ? | 15:09 |
| mgariepy | I rebooted the container. | 15:09 |
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| cloudnull | and that fixed it ? | 15:10 |
| mgariepy | well the 12.0.14 is not running for sure ;) | 15:10 |
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| cloudnull | good point | 15:10 |
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| cloudnull | hum i'm trying to figure out how/why the old process was not respawned on upgrade | 15:11 |
| mgariepy | the error i got was only for the 12.0.14 process .. so i'm not too sure about what was wrong there. | 15:11 |
| odyssey4me | palendae d34dh0r53 sigmavirus24 I'm pretty sure that we had an etherpad with test details for kilo->liberty testing - any idea where that is? | 15:11 |
| odyssey4me | the only one I found was https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-kilo-liberty-upgrade-test1 | 15:11 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, I don't believe I made another, others might have | 15:12 |
| odyssey4me | palendae could you do a brain dump of things you remember were good to test in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-liberty-mitaka-upgrade ? | 15:12 |
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| palendae | You're looking for post-upgrade tests? Or tests during? | 15:13 |
| odyssey4me | palendae all the things | 15:14 |
| odyssey4me | palendae as I recall one of the tests was to build an instance and ping it, then measure down-time in the process? | 15:14 |
| palendae | That was manual, but yeah | 15:15 |
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| mrhillsman | i'm asking who from rpc helped - if anyone - so they can add to the pot | 15:15 |
| mrhillsman | willing to bet BjoernT did | 15:15 |
| odyssey4me | palendae yeah, understood | 15:16 |
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| odyssey4me | the path to doing this better is to document it in the first place | 15:17 |
| palendae | Yeah | 15:17 |
| odyssey4me | and the path to automating it is to document it too | 15:17 |
| palendae | Most of our testing was focused around specific areas that had bitten us | 15:17 |
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| odyssey4me | mgariepy please add your name to the participant list so that when etherpad.o.o drops your session we know who it was :) | 15:17 |
| cloudnull | mgariepy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1570958 looks related. | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570958 in neutron "Need neutron-ns-metadata-proxy child ProcessMonitor for dhcp agent" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:19 |
| cloudnull | or similar to the issue you had seen. | 15:19 |
| cloudnull | we might want to kill the metadata-proxy from an old series on upgrade. | 15:20 |
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| cloudnull | it looks like that process is spawned by the neutron-metadata-agent and will be respawned if it dies. | 15:23 |
| cloudnull | otherwise its left alone. | 15:24 |
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| odyssey4me | mhayden ping? | 15:57 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, I think he's in San Francisco at the Red Hat Summit | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | palendae ah, good call | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 cloudnull, mattt, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, Sam-I-Am, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, erikmwilson, mancdaz, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner, ayoung, prometheanfire, evrardjp, arbrandes, mhayden, scarlisle, luckyinva, ntt, javeriak, automagically, spotz, vdo, jmccrory, alextricity25, jasondotstar, KLevenstein, admin0, michaelgugino, | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | ametts, v1k0d3n, severion, bgmccollum, darrenc, JRobinson__, asettle, colinmcnamara, thorst, adreznec, eil397 | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nolan Brubaker proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Use in-tree env.d files, provide override support https://review.openstack.org/332595 | 16:06 |
| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Fixed it finally :D | 16:07 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Deleted the controller1 container, Created a new one on controller3, installed galera on it. Then started one of the mysql node with the highest seq no with --wsrep-new-cluster to make it the primary node. And then started mysql process on other two nodes. | 16:10 |
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| Andrew_jedi | cloudnull: Appreciate all the help. I will say it again. This is the best Openstack irc channel. :) | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Implement Xenial Support https://review.openstack.org/334543 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Cleanup metadata-proxy when old versions are present https://review.openstack.org/336122 | 17:00 |
| cloudnull | mgariepy: ^ | 17:00 |
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| logan- | evrardjp: yeah i'm not proposing any change regarding what services use dns vs ip.. that's for a separate convo.. but I'm just curious if new containers in newton are now being generated with rfc complaint hostnames? is there a migration path for containers with old hostnames? why are we keeping them around--just lack of time to write the upgrade plays? etc | 17:02 |
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| cloudnull | logan-: the containers are generated the same way as before. | 17:03 |
| cloudnull | they will have a non-rfc name by default. | 17:03 |
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| cloudnull | we're just making sure the file /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname have an RFC compliant name and an alias to the original inventory name | 17:04 |
| logan- | gotcha | 17:04 |
| cloudnull | that way it works for the future but is compatible with what we had done before. | 17:04 |
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| logan- | that makes sense now. cross container references (ie nova services etc) will use the new hostname format then due to the /etc/hostname change, so I'll definitely have to make sure the rfc complaint hosts are resolvable across the infra | 17:05 |
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| cloudnull | logan-: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create/blob/master/tasks/container_create.yml#L218-L233 -- that is the container change | 17:08 |
| logan- | thanks | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | sorry . https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create/blob/master/tasks/container_create.yml#L194-L233 | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | those 4 tasks | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | do your images need to have the old container name within the hosts file ? | 17:10 |
| cloudnull | IE we could change https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create/blob/master/tasks/container_create.yml#L210 to \ | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | "127.0.1.1 {{ inventory_hostname | replace('_', '-') }}.{{ lxc_container_domain }} {{ inventory_hostname | replace('_', '-') }} {{ inventory_hostname }}" | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull evrardjp logan- I do wonder why we need everything to have the DNS names of every other thing? | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | in the container ? | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | or on the hosts ? | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | I suppose it's possible that some services may need it - but perhaps we can adjust configs and stuff to negate the need for it? | 17:12 |
| cloudnull | we have all the names of all the things on host machines. not in the container | 17:12 |
| odyssey4me | ok, then why do we need it at all? | 17:12 |
| pabelanger | odyssey4me: have you had a chance to tryout the UCA mirrors? | 17:12 |
| logan- | cloudnull: because the containers are using the lxcbr0 dnsmasq for resolution? | 17:13 |
| odyssey4me | pabelanger not just yet - busy prepping a patch to make them used in our gate commits | 17:13 |
| odyssey4me | pabelanger I should have that going today/tomorrow - just got back from a week's holiday :) | 17:13 |
| pabelanger | odyssey4me: great! I haven't actually tested them either so feel free to ping when once that is online. I'm expecting them to work, but until something actually has | 17:14 |
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| cloudnull | logan-: i dont think we need the hosts file for the lxcbr0 name resolution to work. | 17:14 |
| odyssey4me | pabelanger yep, I'll ping you with the review for tracking | 17:14 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: i think its one of the things we had that way, so it is still that way. | 17:14 |
| logan- | yeah just trying to understand why the hosts file is synced on the hosts but not the containers | 17:14 |
| cloudnull | I know its easier to move around the env using the host name | 17:15 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull logan- as I recall lxcbr0 is setup with a dnsmasq service by default, which will consume the hosts file - thus allowing all containers to resolve all hosts and other containers | 17:15 |
| cloudnull | which the /ets/hosts file makes possible | 17:15 |
| logan- | yeah thats what Im guessing odyssey4me | 17:15 |
| logan- | The dns names are used for sure by some services. nova uses the agent's dns name for live migration. so the stuff has to be resolvable mostly globally for certain things | 17:16 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull if it's simply a convenience then I'd say let's only build it on the control hosts, or perhaps the utility container... and perhaps also make it optional to have it done... with the default to off | 17:16 |
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| odyssey4me | logan- hmm, is there no way to turn the dns name usage off and instead to use the IP? | 17:17 |
| logan- | yes that is customizable | 17:17 |
| odyssey4me | it strikes me as something worth switching to remove another external reliance | 17:17 |
| odyssey4me | ie we should do that by default | 17:18 |
| logan- | however you would have all of your nova services named after the agent's IP instead of name I think? | 17:18 |
| odyssey4me | oh dear, no that wouldn't be fun | 17:18 |
| logan- | nova-compute services* | 17:18 |
| pabelanger | odyssey4me: great, thanks | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Cleanup metadata-proxy when old versions are present https://review.openstack.org/336122 | 18:03 |
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| mgariepy | cloudnull, thanks for that. | 18:18 |
| mgariepy | cloudnull, i'll test it on monday probably if I don't forget. | 18:18 |
| cloudnull | awesome | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | i hope it helps | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | in my local tests it seems to be doing the trip | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | **trick | 18:19 |
| mgariepy | did you reproduce the issue ? | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | yes | 18:19 |
| mgariepy | ha cool | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | so when you go from 12 > 13 its a problem because filters change ect | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | however its still an issue going from 12.x > 12.y | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | or 13.x > 13.y | 18:20 |
| mgariepy | ok | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | the old code for the metadata-ns-proxy does not restart until killed | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | the matadata agent monitors the process but does not restart it, it will only create it if its missing/needed | 18:21 |
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| cloudnull | so it was a simple fix but kinda a pain to figure it. | 18:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins: Add the Ansible human_log call back plugin https://review.openstack.org/321331 | 18:58 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: still around ? | 18:59 |
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| cloudnull | if you can have a look at that last PR i think that should solve our human_log issues w/ 2.9 | 18:59 |
| cloudnull | **ansible 2.0 | 18:59 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull: evrardjp and I were just chatting about how to do a pod-type deployment, and were thinking that this might just work: https://gist.github.com/odyssey4me/09d963776f8872f2562e477c5158a3e0 | 19:06 |
| odyssey4me | your thoughts? | 19:06 |
| odyssey4me | palendae ^ I expect you may also be interested | 19:07 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: I think we need to re-do inventory storage for AZ specific deployments. along the lines of what we were talking about at the OPS midcycle (using soming like console or etcd) | 19:10 |
| cloudnull | rackertom: ping'd me about that the other day | 19:10 |
| cloudnull | he may have some thoughts on it too | 19:10 |
| cloudnull | Once we have something that can actually manage inventory intellegently, IE not the json file, I think multi-region type deployments get a lot simpler. | 19:11 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, So the only differentiation of AZs for the nodes is the network? | 19:11 |
| palendae | cloudnull, yeah. I was thinking of something like using LDAP which already has region attributes | 19:12 |
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| cloudnull | palendae: that'd work too | 19:12 |
| palendae | I need to track down someone working on https://github.com/rackerlabs/craton | 19:12 |
| cloudnull | jimbaker: ^ | 19:12 |
| palendae | My thoughts, which I need to blueprint - work to make a base class for importing host data, then redo the current stuff as a YAMl subclass | 19:13 |
| palendae | Then we use a standard /etc/ansible/inventory/inv.ini file to specify other classes for other backends | 19:13 |
| palendae | The tricky part is network specification, which I suppose could just live on | 19:13 |
| palendae | in YAML | 19:14 |
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| palendae | Also, right now we don't have a good way to keep track of the containers themselves besides that JSON file | 19:14 |
| palendae | If we import host data from LDAP, that's all well and good, but I'm not sure about writing container data there | 19:14 |
| cloudnull | yea writing potentially transient daat to LDAP is fugly | 19:15 |
| cloudnull | *data | 19:15 |
| palendae | Right | 19:15 |
| palendae | This is where I wonder if LXD would be useful, but I haven't put meaningful time into that | 19:15 |
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| palendae | Also, mapping variables becomes a little harder, because presumably not everyone will want or be able to attach AZ/group membership to variables within their current host inventory | 19:16 |
| cloudnull | I'm a fan of the console, etcd, redis backend idea for a distributed system to store inventory. however I too haven't put time into prototyping | 19:16 |
| palendae | Though group vars might help, and that would "simply" require mapping from the LDAP/AD/whatever inventory's group memberships to OSA's Ansible groups | 19:17 |
| cloudnull | thats a good point | 19:17 |
| palendae | Are you thinking of importing the data from e.g. LDAP once then writing to etcd? | 19:18 |
| cloudnull | and group vars in 2.x have been greatly improved | 19:18 |
| cloudnull | palendae: yea. | 19:18 |
| palendae | I'd think people would want to continue mananging hosts with their current solution. Adding a host to LDAP then maybe running a refresh query should add it | 19:18 |
| cloudnull | maybe a tool ot periodically re-import | 19:18 |
| palendae | Especiall yfor compute | 19:18 |
| palendae | Yeah, just re-run | 19:18 |
| palendae | With a flag | 19:18 |
| palendae | But I think making that pluggable is important | 19:19 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 19:19 |
| palendae | Because a lot of places have their own source of truth | 19:19 |
| palendae | And if you really want it to be a YAML file...good luck | 19:19 |
| cloudnull | neillc: had some work started on that front. | 19:19 |
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| palendae | Yeah, I need to revisit it and draft my spec | 19:19 |
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| palendae | I also think the ability to override variables per host will have to go, in order to simplify this | 19:20 |
| palendae | Make the levels be per AZ, per group | 19:20 |
| palendae | Maybe 1-2 levels of subgroup if you have something like mixed backend cinder storage | 19:20 |
| cloudnull | ++ was just writing that | 19:21 |
| odyssey4me | palendae cloudnull yeah, in my view the pluggable inventory should simply trust the inventory source for the truth for everything... in terms of craton that would mean that we should simply read the inventory from there, we don't write anything to it... in other words the container must already be there will all its data | 19:21 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, Hm. That would mean we get out of provisioning containers entirely? | 19:21 |
| odyssey4me | *with | 19:21 |
| odyssey4me | we still provision containers - but the properties for them must come from the inventory system | 19:22 |
| palendae | Gotcha | 19:22 |
| odyssey4me | ie we do not generate a single thing | 19:22 |
| stevelle | palendae: variables per host is a core Ansible feature. I understand why you want to simplify but that may cause friction | 19:22 |
| odyssey4me | so the only place to generate things would be in the case of us using a file-based configuration | 19:22 |
| palendae | So basically the configuration is networking information and a query/lookup to the inventory system | 19:22 |
| cloudnull | also worth noting that group vars have a longer load time that host vars. | 19:22 |
| odyssey4me | in general I think if we're using an inventory source, all overrides and environment data must come from that source | 19:23 |
| palendae | stevelle, True; perhaps a better way to put that is to move the host vars into host var files, not in the same place | 19:23 |
| cloudnull | 1000s of hosts all using group vars may cause runtime issues. | 19:23 |
| stevelle | palendae: how about moving them into the Source Of Truth :P | 19:23 |
| palendae | cloudnull, That seems....backwards | 19:23 |
| odyssey4me | ie we no longer require overrides, we no longer require /etc/openstack_deploy | 19:23 |
| palendae | stevelle, I'd be willing if someone told me what source of truth they want :) | 19:23 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, What about the environment? | 19:23 |
| stevelle | palendae: /me waves hands in Craton's direction | 19:24 |
| palendae | My frustration with this so far is that the source of truth is always ambiguous | 19:24 |
| odyssey4me | palendae it must all come from the inventory source | 19:24 |
| palendae | Mmmm | 19:24 |
| palendae | I think we're just moving the problem into a bigger working part | 19:24 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: has a point, /etc/openstack_deploy was created to facilitate inventory | 19:25 |
| stevelle | I think of it as separation of concerns | 19:25 |
| cloudnull | though we store secrets there too | 19:25 |
| odyssey4me | our inventory implementation via files should then mirror that model - so if we execute ansible then it all executes from a flat inventory | 19:25 |
| palendae | It seems like hosts would still have to be imported into this thing - for example, rackspace will be using CORE no matter what we build | 19:25 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, so I think the environment and secrets should possibly be individually pluggable | 19:25 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: also worth noting large flat inventory files are slow too. | 19:25 |
| odyssey4me | thus allowing secrets to come from one place, and the environment to come from another | 19:25 |
| palendae | I don't think anyone wants large flat inv files | 19:25 |
| palendae | Because they're painful to manage as a human | 19:26 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull sure, but the file-based configuration should only be used for testing in small environments | 19:26 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 19:26 |
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| odyssey4me | ansible reads a flat result that comes from the whatever the dynamic inventory spits out... whether the dynamic inventory source is a system with a db back-end, or a file system is irrelevant | 19:27 |
| cloudnull | on flat files it re-assembles it | 19:28 |
| cloudnull | when you load inventory from a dynamic source it simply reads it and runs | 19:28 |
| odyssey4me | all we should be providing in our own group_vars are the bits of glue we need to stitch things together - much like we do now | 19:28 |
| odyssey4me | ie 'sensible defaults' | 19:28 |
| palendae | cloudnull, Well, depending on whatever your dynamic source reader is | 19:29 |
| cloudnull | palendae: true | 19:29 |
| palendae | I assume by 'flat files' you mean Ansible's default ini support, not our dynamic_inventory.py script | 19:29 |
| cloudnull | palendae: yes. | 19:29 |
| palendae | I'm not aware of OSA deploys that use that | 19:29 |
| cloudnull | the end of the script is simply print(content) | 19:29 |
| palendae | Right | 19:29 |
| palendae | Maybe doing some mapping, but really it's just connect, query, output | 19:30 |
| palendae | For most of the included stuff | 19:30 |
| cloudnull | ansible dynamic inventory is simply a fancy way of saying stdin | 19:30 |
| palendae | We kind of wedged ourselves cause we needed to specify container networking info for ansible to take and use | 19:30 |
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| cloudnull | yup and those networking bits are stored in "hostvars" within the inventory. | 19:31 |
| palendae | Reading http://craton.readthedocs.io/en/latest/high-level-design.html, they don't appear to have a place where the equivalent of env.d would live | 19:31 |
| palendae | cloudnull, Right, it's generating and populating host vars | 19:31 |
| cloudnull | but it'd be nice to decouple | 19:31 |
| palendae | env.d is kind of separate | 19:32 |
| palendae | Because you need that to define how containers relate to hosts...and how many to make | 19:32 |
| palendae | In some form | 19:32 |
| cloudnull | maybe the container get an IP / network info from some actual authoritative IP source. | 19:33 |
| cloudnull | and our inventory things simply broker API transaction instead of managing it internally. | 19:33 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull if we expect the inventory system to specify all inventory info, then that's where that belongs | 19:34 |
| palendae | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/craton/+spec/craton-inventory-integration-patterns - this is kind of what I was meaning by moving the problem; craton itself needs source of truth | 19:34 |
| odyssey4me | we no longer need to care about it | 19:34 |
| odyssey4me | all we need to do is some validation of things we expect - like we do now... ie no two hosts have the same IP, etc | 19:34 |
| palendae | I'm going to poke at the craton folks; they seem to be targeting OSA support without talking in here | 19:36 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: if we move the issue outside of OSA then we wouldn't even need to do validation. the external system should be doing that. we would simply be a consumer | 19:36 |
| cloudnull | jimbaker, jcannava ^^ | 19:37 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull we may assume some things that are perfectly valid in other environments | 19:37 |
| odyssey4me | for example - maybe we want to ensure that a compute host is not in two AZ's | 19:37 |
| cloudnull | i'd think that would be managed outside of OSA. | 19:38 |
| stevelle | palendae: "moving the problem" is kind of the point. Craton is partly intended to allow pluggable sources of truth | 19:38 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps, but then we need to set the expectations somewhere in documentation... and we know how well that works :p | 19:38 |
| palendae | stevelle, Ok, fair enough. I had not been included in conversation on that | 19:38 |
| stevelle | I just went to one of the summit sessions for it and have read a bit to keep up | 19:39 |
| stevelle | offering the context I have | 19:39 |
| palendae | Yeah | 19:39 |
| palendae | I would hope they'd be coming to us if they're looking to make it work for OSA, but I'll go to them | 19:39 |
| odyssey4me | palendae I had a brief chat with sulo today and plan a sync up next week where I want to put him in contact with you to hopefully prep some sort of workable set of patches which we can start testing with early in the Ocata cycle... or maybe sooner | 19:41 |
| palendae | lol | 19:41 |
| palendae | Ok | 19:41 |
| cloudnull | neillc: would be good to have in that convo too | 19:41 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, for now I just want to set the scene, then leave it to y'all to run with it :) | 19:42 |
| palendae | Honestly I think getting it working before Ocata is a bad idea | 19:42 |
| palendae | Testing, sure | 19:42 |
| palendae | adding a newton deliverable now? That seems unwise | 19:42 |
| odyssey4me | palendae agreed - but I think there may be some basic groundwork needed and I'd like to see us get that spec done before the Newton release so that work can begin as soon as we have a Newton branch | 19:43 |
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| odyssey4me | I'll leave it to you to figure out timelines though. I don't want to commit on your behalf. | 19:44 |
| palendae | odyssey4me, So is the expectation that craton's the solution? | 19:44 |
| odyssey4me | I just think that this is going to be a fairly major change and it'll need plenty of time and testing to mature. | 19:44 |
| palendae | Yeah, it is | 19:44 |
| stevelle | palendae: maybe not The solution, but A solution | 19:45 |
| stevelle | at least from OSA pov | 19:45 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 19:45 |
| odyssey4me | palendae I expect that we'll need to have a file-based inventory solution for testing/gating and that we'll promote craton's use as a production system. Alternative inventory systems are welcome as long as they deliver the same data and have a plugin. | 19:45 |
| stevelle | I think the interface used to work with Craton should be The solution from OSA PoV | 19:46 |
| stevelle | then we add an etcd plugin or w/e | 19:46 |
| odyssey4me | ie as long as someone commits an appropriate library plugin then it'll be supported. If they add some sort of CI for on-commit testing then it'll be promoted more actively. | 19:46 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull we have a filter that'll convert http://mirror.rackspace.com/ubuntu to http://mirror.rackspace.com/ right? | 19:49 |
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| cloudnull | I think | 19:51 |
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| odyssey4me | netorigin ? | 19:51 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, that looks like it | 19:51 |
| cloudnull | get_netorigin | 19:51 |
| cloudnull | yes netorigin | 19:52 |
| cloudnull | no get_ | 19:52 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I figured from https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/liberty/playbooks/inventory/group_vars/hosts.yml#L44 | 19:52 |
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| mgariepy | for whom is interested: scripts/upgrade-utilities/playbooks/old-hostname-compatibility.yml will break cinder a bit since service will register via their new hostname | 20:00 |
| mgariepy | added a note in the etherpad. | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Enable OpenStack-Infra Ubuntu Cloud Archive mirror https://review.openstack.org/336271 | 20:04 |
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| odyssey4me | pabelanger ^ hopefully that does the trick | 20:05 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm out for the night -cheerio all, chat tomorrow! | 20:07 |
| automagically | later odyssey4me | 20:09 |
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| cloudnull | cheers odyssey4me | 20:20 |
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| cloudnull | mgariepy: did you get it fixed? | 20:21 |
| cloudnull | if so what was the fix? | 20:21 |
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